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 on: Today at 06:47:51 AM 
Started by KYBlueOval - Last post by OUTLAW
Go to amazon.com automotive, type in 10112 ball joint, about $95.00.   

 on: Today at 06:25:25 AM 
Started by KYBlueOval - Last post by hiball3985
From what I had researched at one time, and I don't believe everything I read on the Internet, is RareParts bought the Moog tooling. And now Moog parts are mostly made off shore.

When I did my front suspension I had Moog parts sitting on the shelf that I bought back in the early 80's but that 57 project got abandoned. When I used them on my current Ranchero two years ago the rubber boots were as good as the day I bought them..

 on: Today at 05:35:09 AM 
Started by KYBlueOval - Last post by RICH MUISE
From a manufacturing viewpoint, as I mentioned, I would have to wonder how they could make a assembly/part like a ball joint and sell it as low as they do. I'm not sure whether the shafts are made from a (assumed) high quality bar stock, or a forging (my guess), but you have machining, heat treating, precision grinding. The cases would be stamped, and some type of industrial finish, assembly, etc. Add assembly, hardware, etc. Consider the fact that a company like rare parts is competing with off shore mfg., severly reducing the potential sales quantities, and you have to wonder how many balljoints are they going to sell in a year. Add in the costs of inventoring those parts runs for ?? months, years.  Yes, from our viewpoint, it seems like there are alot of 57-58 Fords around, but how many are there compared to, let's say, a 2000 ish F150 pickup. And how many of those '57's are in a restoration process or in need of ball joints?
Like I said, you're probably sorry you asked, but I for one am glad there are some US companies still around actually making stuff.....after all that rambling, I hope they are actually making a good ball joint, lol.

 on: Today at 05:18:42 AM 
Started by KYBlueOval - Last post by RICH MUISE
First, Yes they are a vendor, but the key here is they are also the manufacturer. The short answer...An American made product using premium materials on a comparativly low demand item is going to command a premium price out of neccesity.
Now the long answer...you may be sorry you asked, lol....
I installed ball joints from Concourse...purchased maybe 5 or 6 years ago, and the boots are already splitting. I guess 5 years of road use would be acceptable, but mine, although installed, I don't consider as used since the car is just sitting. Not sure if that example is a reason to buy an expensive ball joint or a reason not to....because of my experience, my main question with the Rare Parts balljoints would be where do they get their boots from?
Having spent 20+ years in machine shop/manufacturing, including 4 years estimating, I tend to look at things like this in a different light than most. I also spent another 20 years in the retail business, dealing with retail markups.
First, let me say I have read very little feedback on this company, but what I have seen was positive. I bought their upper control arm shafts (no one else was making them at the time)...a much simpler part than a ball joint...for 180. each!
Comparing the upper control arm shaft to  a ball joint assembly, one would wonder how they can make the ball joint and sell it cheaper than the shaft..... answer:markup/profit vs. demand/inventory rollover. They undoubtably sell many more ball joints than shafts, so any tooling/setup costs can be amortised over many more parts.
One example that stuck in my head from a business course I took years ago was the markup range a typical grocery store worked with. That range was from below 5% markup to over 200% markup!! Yet, the 5% markups were generally their big money making items. How/why is that? answer: rollover. Items like bread, milk, eggs generaly were marked up in the 5% range, but they were rolled over every few days, or 100+ times a year. compare that to an item that might roll over once a month, or once every 6 months. Those obviously need to have a higher markup just to cover their inventory expenses, and result in an annual almost non-existant profit because of their low turnover.
This tends to piss alot of people off, but it is generaly accepted in the retail trade that a product with a keystone markup(100%) has to be rolled over 3 to 4 times annually to be profitable.

 on: Today at 04:14:38 AM 
Started by Ecode70D - Last post by RICH MUISE
I'm not sure how to construe what your saying, Ron...I read what you said as '59 latches are the same as 61-63 T-Bird, but different from 57-58.??

 on: Today at 04:04:24 AM 
Started by Ecode70D - Last post by Ecode70D
   Thanks Ron
    That's exactly what I needed to know. I was also wondering about the back door latches so you answered that question too.  Jay

 on: Today at 03:29:01 AM 
Started by RICH MUISE - Last post by lalessi1
Never tried it, but the people that do it, swear by it.... I Googled it and was suprised to find this....


 on: Today at 02:38:47 AM 
Started by KYBlueOval - Last post by KYBlueOval
Rare Parts is in our list of supplier links. I got my expensive upper control arm shafts from them.
Rich, I looked up this vendor and they are expensive. One lower ball joint is $147.00. Ouch! I will not buy cheaply made parts, but on the other hand, what makes their ball joint worth that kind of money? If you or anyone else on this forum knows, please tell me. As I've stated before, I only want to do it once and do it right. If this $147.00 ball joint is the right way to go, I'll buy them, but my gut tells me these are somewhat overpriced. What does the Forum say?

 on: Yesterday at 11:12:33 PM 
Started by Ecode70D - Last post by SkylinerRon
57-58 Front door latches are the same.
59 Car and 61-63 T-Bird front door latches same.
Rear door latches are different than the front.


 on: Yesterday at 07:45:37 PM 
Started by djfordmanjack - Last post by Ecode70D
Note that he claims to have 10 more available and has already sold 9 of them.   How does epay allow him to get away with a bogus ad like that?   

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