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Title: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: troublemaker427 on 2017-06-20 07:52
Hello everyone.  I have been a lurker here for several years and never posted very much on your great site.  I've mostly been into early to mid 60's FE powered Fords over the years and just completed the restoration of a '61 Fairlane 390-401 car.  I also helped start the FE Race & Reunion held every year at Beaver Springs Dragway.

Recently I posted in the "Wanted" section about wanting to purchase a "driver" '57 Custom.  I'm not looking for another huge restoration project after the '61 Fairlane.  I just want to find a decent Custom that I can "tinker" with as I go along but still be able to drive it too. 

With all that being said, what is a "fair" price for a '57 Custom?  I know there are a million variables when it comes to a price for a car but it seems prices for a '57 Custom are all over the place.  I was just wondering what you folks think a fair price range would be for one of these cars as I go on with my search. 

As I said I'm looking for a driver/drivable project type car.  Do these even exist anymore...LOL  Much of what I seem to find is either a completed, very nice show car or a rust bucket project car.  Not much in between seems to be out there. 

Any input you guys can offer is appreciated.  Thanks and I hope to post much more on the forum in the future!!

Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: lalessi1 on 2017-06-20 08:47
About 5 years ago I looked for a year for my Custom Tudor. Prices were all over the map, a solid roller might be 6K, a nice survivor 17K, a decent mild Restomod maybe 25-35K. I saw a Custom 300 with a 428 restored by Amos Minter go for 75K on Mecum. That said I paid 11K for mine (from an ad on this forum) it sported a new 10 footer paint job, 302, AOD with numerous things not working properly but you could drive it. 20K later it is what I always wanted. The prices above were for cars I was interested in as I remember them, I think they are still fairly current. I know some guys have paid a lot less... look on page 14 in the For Sale section, ad by "mike b".
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: troublemaker427 on 2017-06-20 09:15
Thanks Lynn.  It sounds like you did the same thing I'm looking to do. 
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2017-06-20 10:18
So what do we call you besides "troublemaker"? lol.....just doesn't seem right since we barely know ya.
What did you think of the two Customs in the craislist links Bos posted? That would give us a better  idea of what you're looking for. For reference only, I turned down an offer of 35K on mine. May not be worth that to alot of guys, but what's 10 years of work worth, and after all the work I need to drive it for a long time anyways.
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: troublemaker427 on 2017-06-20 10:50
Jody is fine, I'm actually George Jr....   Yes some of those prices helped some.  I'm actually on the other side of the country from those in Maryland.  I just wanted to see what you guys who have much more experience with '57s think is a fair price.

Troublemaker is the name of my '66 Fairlane race car.  My father ran a '60 Falcon also called Troublemaker so mine is TM II... 
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: KidKourier on 2017-06-20 11:22
Troublemaker.     On Ebay,listed yesterday, a Custom 300.Same body style and wheel base as a Custom Tudor but different stainless trim(but could be changed). It's a driver-351W-FMXauto-all White-Weld wheels(type with holes)-not to wild about interior color but that'swhy they have dye kits. Anyways it"s in S. Carolina--still 6 days left on auction-last bid at $8600!! Looks like a solid body.Shipping cost be estimated on ebay page or a long road trip.   KID
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: rmk57 on 2017-06-20 13:22
Reserve hasn't been met, I think your looking at double to own it. It does look like a really nice car though. I think for 10k-12k you should be able to get a nice solid driver with some sort of sbf, fe or good running y-block that will still need some finishing.

I picked mine up for $6800 about 10 years ago. Had a rebuilt 272, a very solid California car, fresh paint but no interior. Of coarse now it's quite a bit different from when I first bought it. Be patient and be willing to travel, something always comes up.

Randy
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: troublemaker427 on 2017-06-20 13:26
Thanks.  Yes I was thinking (hoping) that 10K-12K was a reasonable amount for what I'm looking for.  I think patients might be the key word here.  I have the '57 fever but I'll try to control myself until I find the right car!!  LOL
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: rmk57 on 2017-06-20 13:36
https://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6177129854.html

Looks half decent.
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: djfordmanjack on 2017-06-20 18:13
Quote from: troublemaker427 on 2017-06-20 13:26
I have the '57 fever

You'll never get rid of that again, believe me...
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: lalessi1 on 2017-06-20 18:16
I would have bought that one instead of mine!!! Patience, good luck!
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: FiveSevenLiter on 2017-06-20 23:28
How much do you want to spend?
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2017-06-21 08:09
I think if you want a 60 year old creampuff... you will definitely be spending 20-35k on an unmolested 300..... we are talking a bone stock excellent condition model.... no rust or beat up car.
In the 60's and 70's.. even the early 80's.. they were very cheap... 900-4500 bucks.
Fairlanes are far more plentiful..... Saying that.. the custom shown by rmk57 in Tulsa.... looks to be a steel.......

Yea... you can buy a car for 4500-8500...  but you will spend 3x to get it the way you want(and there is nothing wrong with that)

I have gone that route and to be honest....I enjoy it.(working on it a little at a time)

Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: fordaholic on 2017-06-21 21:18
Welcome Troublemaker, and I really like that 427 part too. Sounds like you`ve been around this hobby for a day or to. You will know when the rite one comes along, be patient. I was exactly where you are now a few years ago. I had a few friends on the lookout as well. Patience paid off. Found a real business coupe in Iowa on craigslist that had spent most of it`s life in Arizona. Good one`s are out there, keep some cash handy and be ready to pounce. By the way , the last three numbers of your handle is what my business coupe is powered by. You and I have to talk. My next project is waiting in my garage for me to get started. 1961 Fairlane 390 white post car. Always a race car. Original owner was Morris Lee. It earned him a Thunderbolt in 64. The car has quite a history. I would appreciate it if you could email me  estaterc@sympatico.ca   and good luck on your hunt.     Gary
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: troublemaker427 on 2017-06-22 07:43
Here is a shot of my '61 Fairlane 390-401.  We just finished it in April.  It was built as a "period correct" Optional Super Stock car from 1961.  Nothing modern can be seen.  I also have a 1966 Fairlane GT NSS racer with a 427.  That car was my first car that I drove to high school.  We love the FE stuff for sure!!
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: troublemaker427 on 2017-06-22 07:44
Here are a couple more.  The red car is my father's '61 Starliner 390-401.  We pulled them on the starting line for a photo op.  Neither car has made a timed pass yet.
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: fordaholic on 2017-06-22 10:42
  Troublemaker427; you had to post those pics of your car, didn`t you. Now you`ve done it. I`m way motivated now. It is over the top for sure. Wow!! Is that taken at Beaver Springs this year? If so my close car buddy was there with his 66 white Comet wagon. I couldn`t make it this year. I also have a 66 post 427 clone, even the correct carbs, and a 63 Galaxie boxtop 406 clone that is for sale right now. We still need to talk. Please email me sometime.     Gary
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: lalessi1 on 2017-06-22 10:50
Gorgeous car(s). I am a large FE fan as well running a stroker 428 in my Custom...
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: troublemaker427 on 2017-06-22 10:59
Quote from: fordaholic on 2017-06-22 10:42
  Troublemaker427; you had to post those pics of your car, didn`t you. Now you`ve done it. I`m way motivated now. It is over the top for sure. Wow!! Is that taken at Beaver Springs this year? If so my close car buddy was there with his 66 white Comet wagon. I couldn`t make it this year. I also have a 66 post 427 clone, even the correct carbs, and a 63 Galaxie boxtop 406 clone that is for sale right now. We still need to talk. Please email me sometime.     Gary
Yes, this was from the FERR at Beaver Springs this year.  My '61 won "Best of Show" there the first time out after we finished it.  You all need to come to the FE Race & Reunion in 2018.  If you like FEs it is the place to be!!
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: JPotter57 on 2017-06-22 12:13
Welcome, Jody.  I have followed the expoits of the Troublemaker Fairlane since I first saw it in a Ford magazine several years ago, love those 66-67 cars almost as much as 57s. 
Like everyone has mentioned, the prices are all over the place.  Just watch out for rust in the normal areas, door bottoms, fender eyebrows and lower corners, rockers, rear trunk pan, underneath the trunk lid.  Good rust free trunklids are impossible to find outside of the desert country out west.  Any sheetmetal parts you need to replace, obviously OEM (used or NOS) is best, but EMS makes pretty nice repop stuff.  Any rubber from Dennis Carpenter or Steele Rubber is good. 
Like the prices you are seeing, folks here have paid all different prices too.  My own car came out of Dallas, TX, mostly rust free, but was a basket case former drag car.  I paid $900 for it almost 10 years ago.   The last time it was registered was 1968 as the tag on the car showed, and the guy I bought it from confirmed that it had been a great while as it had sat in a field for 20 years before he bought it.  It was stripped, all glass broken out, etc.  It is nearing completion now, never again will I  do one that far gone and that much stuff missing.  It was a LONG period of gathering hard to find parts, fixing collision damage, and so on, but it is now in the final stages, waiting for the front fenders to be finished and painted so I can get them installed.  My 427 2x4 and 4 speed are in, running, sounds great.  I hope to make it to Beaver Springs next year with the 57, if so, I'm looking forward to meeting you and any other 57 Ford fans, as well as all of the FE guys. 
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: fordaholic on 2017-06-22 16:53
  Jodi; I forgot to add a couple of pics on my last post. Hope I can do to you what you did to me.   Ha Ha!!!  Take a close look at the rear window of the 66. 
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: Rowen55 on 2017-06-22 17:43
Troublemaker427

Can you tell me what the scoop is from? Thanks
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: troublemaker427 on 2017-06-22 18:15
The scoop is from a 1961 "Super Duty" Ford big truck.  They were on the hoods of the big trucks backwards.  They were a popular addition to both early Ford & Pontiac Super Stock cars.  Fordaholic, awesome!!!

Here is a shot of my '66 Fairlane.
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: Rowen55 on 2017-06-23 10:52
Thanks for the quick response. That's the second one of those I've seen. Same year(s), I think the other was a 64 big truck. Gotta see if I can find one.
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: troublemaker427 on 2017-06-24 14:42
Is $12,000 a fair price for a running driving 70D Business Coupe, 272, 3 speed?  Car has some rust issues around the rear wheel wells and rockers.  Rear shelf is gone and a backseat has been installed.  Car appears to be complete and fairly original except for the missing rear shelf.  It is about 8 hours from me and I'm going by photos at this point.  Floors and trunk are supposed to be good. 

What do you all think? 
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: JPotter57 on 2017-06-24 15:10
12k for a running driving business coupe is a pretty decent deal, especially it being a V8 car.  Be aware though that the rear shelf, if you want it, sells for what a lot of decent cars sell for.  The last shelf I saw sold for $3600, needing work.  Very scarce item, but it is easy to build a good looking copy.  Jay has a very nice copy in his real business coupe, built by him. If floors, rockers and quarters are good, you are money ahead.  That sounds like a great starting point for an awesome ride.
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: 57chero on 2017-06-24 17:57
I went and picked up some 57 parts from a liquidation/estate sale the other day and they had two 57,s for sale, one is a customized fairlane  and the other is a business sedan missing the platform, you can see them on the Portland, Oregon craigslist.
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: 57chero on 2017-06-24 18:10
Should of told you there the two in Oregon City on the Portland Craigslist in a shop on skates. The guy died and there selling everything. He was into 57,s and 60 Pontiacs.
Title: Re: Fair Price For A Custom ?
Post by: fordaholic on 2017-06-25 19:23
   Jody; if you move ahead on the business coupe and really want a shelf, maybe we can pool our resources and knock off a few. Jeff has all the dimentions and a ton of pics that he collected from my shelf before it went back in the car. He has a metal guy who claims he can make them. Check with Jeff if you decide you need one.     Gary