I noticed in a parts magazine an electric motor switch out for the 57, anyone tried it?
That must be for a truck of a Bird. The "switch" for 57 and up to 60 passenger cars was a cable that turned on the vacuum or electric wiper motor by twisting a knob on the dash.
If you are talking about a conversion from vacuum to electric a LOT of guys have done this. I used a kit from one of the typical suppliers Macs, Concours, or Dennis Carpenter... don't remember. Mine worked well. Not much to it IF your cable system is good.
I have one in my Del Rio ( came from Cal in 2013). Unlike the orginal (which is cable operated as stated correctly above) this uses a 'conventional' electric switch in the dash. there is a special '57 look' knob that fastens via a grub screw. of course the electric wiper motor ( it is the cylindrical 'modern' type) is all electric as well. If you wanted to keep the cable operated oem Ford switch, you could use a 57 or so CH*** pssgr or up to 1959 Corv***e wiper motor. It is electric, bolt on and has the similar type cable operated switch on the unit.
QuoteIf you wanted to keep the cable operated oem Ford switch, you could use a 57 or so CH*** pssgr or up to 1959 Corv***e wiper motor. It is electric, bolt on and has the similar type cable operated switch on the unit.
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Did not know that. Thanx for that info.
Makes sense as FORD used DELCO wiper motors on their electric wiper option of the period.
Yes, I had a 56 or 57 Chevy electric wiper motor on my 57 Ford Sedan delivery back in the late 70s. It bolted directly to the plate on the firewall, the rectangular steel tab fit perfectly in the lever that turns the cable drum, and even to original wiper cable fit on as if it was made for it. All I had to do was run the single motor wire to a 12 volt .source. I just ran the wire to the positive side of the factory brake light switch. Looked more "period correct" than the Newport aftermarket motor that hangs down on the firewall.
I have electric wiper motors on both of my '57s and bolt straight in using the Ford switch.
Although people call them Chevy motors I believe they are made by Trico
John :canada:
'57 Delco...much stronger than the aftermarket kits. The '57 Ford OEM wiper knob has a set screw and will transfer to kits that include an electric switch.
I use the 57 Chevy motor also.
Thank you all. I?m baby stepping but learning lots. Starting to like this Ford thing!!!
I liked the vacuum wipers. I liked the variable speed. I would never changed but big cam killed the engine vacuum. Now, auxiliary vacuum pumps would resolve the issue
many diesels use auxillary electric vacuum pumps for power brakes. Land rover is one and they are usually available reasonably on E bay.
Quote from: rovohn on 2021-01-17 11:27
Although people call them Chevy motors I believe they are made by Trico
TRICO supplied the vacuum pumps ... uh
motors ... and DELCO (GM) the electric motors. Electric wipers were an limited option on some FORD cars. CHEV used vacuum so electric must have been an option with them also.
Don't forget vacuum wipers had a vacuum pump as part of the fuel pump (two stage) A two stage pump was an option so your car may not have one or if it has one might be defective.
Quote from: KULTULZ on 2021-01-18 05:22
TRICO supplied the vacuum pumps and DELCO (GM) the electric motors. Electric wipers were an limited option on some FORD cars. CHEV used vacuum also so electric must have been an option with them also.
Not certain about Lincolns or Mercurys, but I believe the first year electric wipers were available on a Ford was 1959. It seems most 59s, at least the more basic models had the vacuum wipers. I guess back then, the fear of the unknown "newfangled" technology, plus the outrageous $3.95 added cost for the electric wipers scared people away! My 59 came with vacuum wipers, with the dual chamber booster fuel pump, but I have aquired 2 1/2 of the factory electric motors. I find it odd at how much Ford revised the wiper mechanisms in 57,8, &9. 57 had the wiper motor under the hood, with the cable and pulley linkage, in 58, the wiper motor went under the dash, with linkage arms, and for 59, the wiper motor was back under the hood, with linkage arms. Also, unlike 57 & 58, the 59 did not have a removable cowl between the hood & windshield.
The wiper motor that was in my 60 Ranch wagon now resides in the 57 Ranch wagon that I sold/traded for the 58 Edsel.
The Ranchero now has a single speed, self parking wiper motor out of a 55 Chevy.
CORRECT -
1959 FORD first used. Last year for vacuum wipers 1961 full size FORD.
I always thought the Chevy Trico electric wiper motor just looked like it belonged on my 57 Sedan Delivery.
It does. FOMOCO used the DELCO motor and it retrofits back.
I did some reconnoitering and CHEV last year for vacuum was 1959.
Quote from: KULTULZ on 2021-01-19 10:12
CORRECT -
1959 FORD first used. Last year for vacuum wipers 1961 full size FORD.
Does the 61-64 electric motor fit our 57's w/o modifications?
Quote from: terry_208 on 2021-01-19 15:31
Does the 61-64 electric motor fit our 57's w/o modifications?
I can`t speak from personal experience, but considering my 59 is quite different from a 57, I doubt it. The 57, and the Tri5 Chevys, have a rectangular piece at the end of the motor shaft that fits into a flanged rectangle on the firewall mounting bracket, that drives the cable drum inside the cowl. On my 59, the motor shaft is longer, it goes thru the mounting plate, and has a bellcrank swedged onto the shaft, that has 2 pins, that the wiper linkage arms slip over, and rotate on.
That's weird, the 60 electric motor bolted up. In the 60 it is under the dash, activated with the same type cable set up from the dash. Just had to sleeve down the mounting holes to get a snug fit on the mounting screws.
I will use the vacuum motor I have. I've cleaned it up and will wait and see once the engine is installed and I have vacuum. i am struggling with one issue and that is the fit of the pivot arms through the body. Again because I didn't disassemble it I am also working with a vacuum. I see lots of diagrams, but I am not happy with the angle of the pivot arm once they come through the sheet metal. I've cleaned the chrome pieces and believe I have the correct orientation for each side, but it just doesn't seem right. How are they supposed to fit?
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There is an angled oval chrome piece that goes under the pivot....
I'm pretty sure those bezels are reproduced.......try www.classicautoparts.com in OKC
I see them listed in Dennis Carpenter's catalog and a gasket also. This will get you to their site: www.dennis-carpenter.com