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Title: HELP. Butchs motor mounts
Post by: Jimburnaugh on 2016-01-04 18:33
Need some help, installed 351w using small block ford pickup mounts, motor sat too low, BBK 1511 headers wouldn't fit, so I bit the bullet and bought Butchs motor mounts, installed them per instructions, using holes shown and didn't fit right. Raised mounts up and now I think motor is too high, headers still dont fit, drivers side valve cover is hitting firewall.  Enclosed are pictures, I'm at wits end, what am I doing wrong? 
Title: Another picture of mount
Post by: Jimburnaugh on 2016-01-04 18:36
Another picture
Title: Another picture
Post by: Jimburnaugh on 2016-01-04 18:37
Another picture
Title: Valve cover
Post by: Jimburnaugh on 2016-01-04 18:38
Valve cover on firewall
Title: Re: HELP. Butchs motor mounts
Post by: wv 57s forever on 2016-01-05 18:29
       


   I have a 351w in my car, used motor mounts from 67 fairlain, and a piece of pipe welded to the frame mounts. I have never had any trouble with it. Motor is 30 over flat tops comp thumper cam air gap intake 100 hp shot of nitrous c5 with c4 valve body from tci 2500 stall converter 411s with slicks. Plenty of room every where.
Title: Re: HELP. Butchs motor mounts
Post by: gasman826 on 2016-01-05 19:49
1964 Galaxie 289 mounts on Rock Auto for $5.28
Title: Re: HELP. Butchs motor mounts
Post by: fdlrc on 2016-01-05 20:19
 Jim, I know we talked earlier but I wanted to post this info for others.

I also used Butch's motor mounts on my 6 cylinder car that I installed a 90 Mustang 5.0 with T5 tranny. I have plenty of room for tall valve covers.

I have a Borgeson power steering box. The shorty headers I used fit perfect.

I tried the BBK headers they did not fit. I also tried Sanderson headers-no go (all returned by the way). I bought a set of Pypes headers # HDR50S from  lmr.com. These fit perfect. 
Title: Re: HELP. Butchs motor mounts
Post by: Jimburnaugh on 2016-01-20 20:10
I got the motor mount issue resolved, had the wrong block mounts, Terry at Butchs sent me correct block mounts , fit perfect.  Problem now is headers, tried theBBK 1511, didn't fit, hits steering box, spoke to Les from the forum he used Pypes headers, ordered those, also don't fit, because of steering box.  Any suggestions?  Too expensive to have custom headers made.  I think theroblem is I have a 351w with aluminum heads, Skip White basically Pro Comp. anybody have a similar setup with headers that fit? 
Title: Re: HELP. Butchs motor mounts
Post by: Jimburnaugh on 2016-01-21 09:04
wv 57s forever, what headers are you using?
Title: Re: HELP. Butchs motor mounts
Post by: fdlrc on 2016-01-23 19:00
Jim, Did the Pypes headers bolt on your 351 heads? Was it just not enough room between engine and steering box? Did the passenger side fit? Les

Title: Re: HELP. Butchs motor mounts
Post by: Jimburnaugh on 2016-01-28 19:06
The pass side would fit but drivers side, steering box dead in the way, without major surgery to the pypes, wouldn't fit.  Good news though, ordered a cheap set of full length headers from Summit, they fiterfect with no issues other than trans cross member, so I had a xmember fabricated. 
Title: Re: HELP. Butchs motor mounts
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2016-01-29 09:17
Hey Les.....I'm a little slow sometimes...I just tied your fdlrc label to who you were. I had been wondering why you hadn't been posting, when you actually were!
Guys...I met Les and his wife Kelly (hope I remembered that correctly) last year in Colorado Springs. Les is the one I posted about taking me for a ride in his 57 to an ice cream shop.
Anyway, perfect timing ...I'm going to be hopefully headed your way next weekend for the tri-state swap meet and would sure enjoy meeting up again. I sure enjoyed our first visit. Send me a pm with your phone number if you would. Did you finally get to retire?
Rich
Title: Re: HELP. Butchs motor mounts
Post by: fdlrc on 2016-01-30 08:55
Rich, I sent you a PM. Les
Title: Re: HELP. Butchs motor mounts
Post by: wv 57s forever on 2016-01-31 04:33
67 fairlaine headers.