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Title: 57 on BAT
Post by: Ford Blue blood on 2024-02-01 07:56
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1957-ford-fairlane-500-17/

Nice car, one of ours?
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2024-02-01 08:19
Beautiful .I just wish the bumpers were chrome
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: KULTULZ on 2024-02-01 13:14
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2024-02-01 08:19Beautiful .I just wish the bumpers were chrome


That can be corrected ... $$$

I see it has the customary CORVETTE MC INSTALL ...  :why3:
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: rmk57 on 2024-02-01 16:19
  I wonder how well it cools with the fan setup.
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: mustang6984 on 2024-02-01 18:06
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2024-02-01 08:19Beautiful .I just wish the bumpers were chrome

I thought the same Jeff.
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: mustang6984 on 2024-02-01 18:11
Quote from: KULTULZ on 2024-02-01 13:14I see it has the customary CORVETTE MC INSTALL ...  :why3:

Okay...I'm lost...I thought maybe you were looking at the rear end, but nope it's a 9...so...what am I missing?
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: 59meteor on 2024-02-01 19:11
Anybody else notice that the vacuum windshield wiper motor is mounted upside down? So rather than allow the drain tube to let any moisture out, it lets it in. Agree with Jeff, not a fan of painted bumpers, although after still hurting from paying more to have my 59s bumpers rechromed, than the car cost new, I can see why some guys go that route, but to me, it just doesn`t look right. And whenever I see one of those hideous cheap, chinese HEI distributors on a Ford, and the super cheap gauges, I have to wonder what other cost saving short cuts were made. Just doesn`t see in keeping with a body off resto. Also noticed it has no PCV system, just a closed oil cap on the drivers side, and an open plastic nipple on the passenger side. At this point, with the price well below 10 grand, all those things can be corrected, and if the paint and body looks as nice in person, as the photos, would be a great deal.
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: 59meteor on 2024-02-01 19:15
Oh,  and as Kultulz comment, I believe that he is refering to the all to common aftermarket power brake booster and brake master cylinder, which I have to wonder it that was a good choice for the factory 4 wheel drum brakes.
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: KULTULZ on 2024-02-01 21:07
QuoteAnd whenever I see one of those hideous cheap, chinese HEI distributors on a Ford, and the super cheap gauges, I have to wonder what other cost saving short cuts were made. Just doesn`t see in keeping with a body off resto. Also noticed it has no PCV system, just a closed oil cap on the drivers side, and an open plastic nipple on the passenger side.

QuoteOh,  and as Kultulz comment, I believe that he is refering to the all to common aftermarket power brake booster and brake master cylinder, which I have to wonder it that was a good choice for the factory 4 wheel drum brakes.

THANK YOU!

He has a CORVETTE DISC/DISC CHI-COM SLOPPY COPY MC and BOOSTER on a four wheel drum car most likely with no RESIDUAL PRESSURE VALVES?

... makes sense to me ...

At what point is a FORD not a FORD? Might as well jack it up and run a BOW-TIE drive-train under it.
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: mustang6984 on 2024-02-01 22:01
Okay...I did not notice the Corvette stuff...cause not that familiar with it.
I also noticed that the oil pan seemed to not be painted, with I thought was sorta strange if the motor had been rebuilt.
All in all...probably NOT gonna score big $$$ for this one.
NO car of mine...will EVER have any Bow-tie stuff on it. Nope...not happening.
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: rmk57 on 2024-02-01 23:12
   Yes, the hei distributor has no place on a Ford engine and it's wound so far over you couldn't advance the timing if you wanted to.
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: KULTULZ on 2024-02-02 04:36
Well, this is the thing. The car has a solid body, but to bring it back into a correct time period(s), will require $$$ (nothing wrong with the 460 transplant) (IMO).

The car is not mine and he can do whatever he wants with it. I am a purist but if updating the drive-train, do it in a fashion whereas it can be reverted to a correct time period. In other words, DO NO HARM.

Resto-mod is OK up to a point. At a certain level it is going to de-value a good re-sale price unless the buyer is into Resto-mods.

This is a nice looking FAIRLANE VICTORIA CLUB SEDAN -

1957 FORD - FAIRLANE CLUB SEDAN - 'TWO-TONE' - Casino Cream Over Raven Black.jpg
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: rmk57 on 2024-02-02 10:18
   
   First thing I'd do is get rid of that rear bumper and replace it with the smaller Custom unit.

  Car looks pretty nice though.
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2024-02-02 11:43
Quote from: rmk57 on 2024-02-02 10:18First thing I'd do is get rid of that rear bumper and replace it with the smaller Custom unit.

  Car looks pretty nice though.


Hell yes........

I do love the color combo..... but there are some issues I would address  if were mine.
But I do like it.

Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: KULTULZ on 2024-02-02 18:30
QuoteFirst thing I'd do is get rid of that rear bumper and replace it with the smaller Custom unit.

What do you think of a '58 FORD FAIRLANE rear face bar?

1958 FORD - FAIRLANE REAR FACE BAR.jpg
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: Hoosier Hurricane on 2024-02-02 18:39
I have a '58 bumper on my '57 Fairlane, and I really like it.  NHRA and IHRA both accepted it when I was running in stock eliminator, it just looked right to them I guess.   John
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: 59meteor on 2024-02-02 20:55
I think the 58 rear bumpers look good, I never really cared much for the huge rear bumper that Ford used on the Fairlane models. Funny how the 57 Fairlanes had a slender front bumper, with a huge rear bumper, but all 58 Fords had a huge front bumper, with a slender rear bumper. I also like the ribs in the 58 roofs, even though I have no idea why they did that. Even on the very long roofs that 57 Ford station wagons and Sedan Deliveries had, don`t ever recall seeing any of them having an issue with a smooth roof. Also found it odd that on the Ranchero and Sedan Delivery models, Ford chose to use the round 57 tail lights, yet used the regular 58 cars dual oval tail lights on the station wagons.
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: Ford Blue blood on 2024-02-03 07:53
I always thought the 58 500 bumper is what should have been on the 57s.  Much cleaner look and the right proportion to the rest of the styling on the car. 

After deciding not to make a "Fairlane Ranchero" I looked long and hard at doing the 58 wagon tail gate/tail light on the Ranchero.  Turns out finding the correct parts in an inexpensive manner deleted that idea.  Add to that as progress occurred the idea slowly faded into the abys......
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: FiveSevenLiter on 2024-02-03 11:20
Agree on the nice car.
Agree on the needs chrome bumpers.
Great tutone.
Prefer the Custom 300.

You guys need to get the decal I made up more than 25-years ago.  After walking around a 2,000+ car show, and having a couple beers along the way we came up with an idea.  We saw clubs called the Vintiques, Antiques, Rodtiques and we decided we needed to start the Critiques and came up with this catchy motto.  All in fun.  One of the slogans that did not make it was 'Did you buy it that way or screw it up yourself?'

Terry
 :canada:
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: mustang6984 on 2024-02-03 11:44
One of the reasons I refuse to participate as a judge in car shows is because of the way people tear down other people's cars.
I have always believed that even if I don't like the way a car was built or looks...it is not MY car. So...if that is what the other guy likes, and it make him happy...then it is fine.
I am not gonna be a judge and award or subtract "points" from the car.
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: rmk57 on 2024-02-03 15:00
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2024-02-03 11:20Agree on the nice car.
Agree on the needs chrome bumpers.
Great tutone.
Prefer the Custom 300.

You guys need to get the decal I made up more than 25-years ago.  After walking around a 2,000+ car show, and having a couple beers along the way we came up with an idea.  We saw clubs called the Vintiques, Antiques, Rodtiques and we decided we needed to start the Critiques and came up with this catchy motto.  All in fun.  One of the slogans that did not make it was 'Did you buy it that way or screw it up yourself?'

Terry
 :canada:

    You can get into trouble for thinking out loud at a car show. Usually when a sbc is in an older Ford and you say "you should've left the hood closed".

 


   
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: mustang6984 on 2024-02-03 17:16
Quote from: rmk57 on 2024-02-03 15:00You can get into trouble for thinking out loud at a car show. Usually when a sbc is in an older Ford and you say "you should've left the hood closed".

THAT...is the ONE thing that will get a rise out of me. Every rule has an exception...and my rule...about "it's his and"...put a bow-tie in a Ford...I WILL turn my nose up at it. And in a show where the spectators are the ones casting the votes...it gets nada from me.
Case in point, there was a '57 Ranchero for sale on a car lot in Olympia WA about 25 years ago. I wanted to buy it, price seemed reasonable, $11k...until I opened the hood and found a 350 bow-tie between the rails.
I told the lot manager I would buy the car, and give him $8k for it...AFTER he pulled the boat anchor out of it. He wouldn't even consider the idea. I told him he'd be sitting on that car for a LONG time then. He didn't think so.
A year later...it was still there. I heard it was eventually wholesaled off to another dealer somewhere out of state.
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: KULTULZ on 2024-02-04 05:57
Just an observation, but the PATENT PLATE is not correct to the vehicle -

It is from an early fifties pickup truck.
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2024-02-04 06:21
Well. it sold for $21500.... I say someone got a deal..... Thats a paint job around here.....
Title: Re: 57 on BAT
Post by: 59meteor on 2024-02-04 08:51
Yeah, not a bad price if the paint and bodywork is as nice as it appears in the photos. Wonder if the new owner will leave it as is, or put his own touches on it. Around here, most guys seem to buy cars already done, some change a few things, others don`t, but it seems the people that don`t personalize them, often sell them after a year or two. I guess if you buy an already done car , from the same area that you live, it will always be "Bob/Jim/George/Pete`s old car". That`s the nice thing about building them yourself. Although as I get older, I can see the attraction of buying a car already built, rather than "rolling your own". My 59 took almost 18 years of on again, off again , as money and time allowed, to build. At 66 years old, I doubt that I have another long term project in me, and as a retired "old age pensioner", the bank balance says that I should be hapy with what I already have!