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Title: Sunliner
Post by: JRD007 on 2023-11-30 18:02
Hello gents. I have an odd question. Anyone know what the weight of a 57 sunliner body is, the body is completely stripped. I'm putting it back on the frame, don't have access to a 2 post hoist, it's on a rotisserie as we speak.  Motor trans installed. Any easy ways would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks John IMG_4228.jpeg
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: mustang6984 on 2023-11-30 23:58
I am guessing around 3800 pounds.
Bet Alvin knows for sure.
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: abe_lugo on 2023-12-01 02:27
Just the body.  Not 3800.  I would guess near 1500. 
I have picked up full qtr panels up on my own 150/200#  And trunk floors.  The heavier part is the whole firewall with some of the floor bracing. 

If you asking for how many people need to come over.  Min 3. But 4 should do it. How many beers?? Is the real question.
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: cos on 2023-12-01 09:16
Hello  If you have ceiling framing heavy enough to lift body, this is what I did. Put lifting eyes spaced a little wider body into ceiling joists. Put 4x4s from firewall as far back as possible, bolts or all thread thru 4x4s at body mount holes. Bolt another 4x4 (90 degrees) to the front to rear 4x4s extending out far enough to lift with come-a-longs. My car was a ranchero, had to put cross 4x4 as far back as possible to get it to lift level. Might be able lift with cherry picker and move lifting point to center of cross 4x4. I can't imagine trying to lift  1500 lbs and get frame under it by hand. Good luck
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: mustang6984 on 2023-12-01 10:10
Quote from: abe_lugo on 2023-12-01 02:27Just the body.  Not 3800.  I would guess near 1500. 
I have picked up full qtr panels up on my own 150/200#  And trunk floors.  The heavier part is the whole firewall with some of the floor bracing. 

If you asking for how many people need to come over.  Min 3. But 4 should do it. How many beers?? Is the real question.

I missed the part about just the body...OOPs!
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: thomasso on 2023-12-01 11:59
I installed my body with a couple of cable hoists, not very heavy. Were you able to get body mount pads?  I had to make mine out of belting 20 yrs ago.  Body looks great.
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: gasman826 on 2023-12-01 13:21
Safety First!  Since the ceiling appears finished, that kinda lets out using the ceiling joists.  I've used boat lifts, backhoe and engine hoists.  I am fortunate to have one of the best tools in the tool box...a post hoist.  I use my hoist to pick bodies off frames and rotisseries.  Another great use is picking frames off and on my frame table.  Anyway, ceiling may be too low for a hoist.  Another method I've used is 'baby steps'.  I've blocked the body up with two 8' or greater 4x4s (or similar) across the front and rear and block up with wood caging, cement blocks, and even 55 gallon drums spaced far and high enough to roll the chassis in place.  I have always done this by myself.  I have seen four guys muscle bodies onto frames but I don't know four old guys with muscles.  I'm sure you'll figure it out!  Just use a bunch of masking tape on all the corners and edges.  You don't want to chip any of that beautiful paint. 
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2023-12-01 14:19
I did as Gary mentioned.......with a cherry picker, one end at a time until up on 4 x 4's on trunk-height jack stands. I also did it alone, but almost lost it once. Plywood sheets over my backyard grass wasn't the best scenario, lol......but it got done!
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: terry_208 on 2023-12-01 14:44
I used firewood rounds, large wood blocks, under the ends of 4 X 6's to support the body.  I found the balance point just slightly forward of the rear wheel opening. This allowed my body weight to counter-balance the firewall while someone removed the front 4 X 6.  One time, I got a couple neighbors to help lift the back of the body and remove the rearmost 4 X 6.  Another time, I cribbed and used a jack under the rear of the body to allow the rearmost 4 X 6 to be removed.   
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: mustang6984 on 2023-12-01 18:16
My Courier removed from the frame by myself and my then 73 year old buddy.
MOTE: all of the tires had wheels mounted inside them. Very sturdy.
Did the same on the Courier race car 47 years back...only used 55 gallon drums then in place of tires.
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: cos on 2023-12-01 22:49
I did a frame off on a TB forty years ago. Every one I talked to caution me to brace body as there is  no roof to tie things together ( chance of buckling rockers) I didn't notice any braces on your car. If you can not lift from ceiling or cherry picker as I mention, you might be able to make a heavy brace from front upper door hinges to striker plate, put across  bar to connect together and lift from it. may not lift level without finding lift point on brace.
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: JRD007 on 2023-12-01 23:51
Thanks guy for  all the support.
Plan on 6 guys,a lot of beer after. A couple pieces of 2x2x8' tubing and were set. Will let you know the outcome. 🍻
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: JRD007 on 2023-12-22 16:25
Christmas came early, 4 strong backs and lots of hydraulic jack work and we got it back together. Oh a couple of refreshments as well. Now to assemble doors,fenders,ect. Then let the final block sand begin.  Cheers to all and Merry Christmas to all. 
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: mustang6984 on 2023-12-22 22:14
Congrats! Bet I know where your quiet time will be this weekend.
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2023-12-23 08:46
Well done,JD. Everything looks awesome. Lots of the hard work checked off, it's getiin' close to making it pretty. I'm looking forward to updates. Nice garage also, but way too clean unless you've got a maid wearin' a tiny french outfit tidying up! I'm jealous!
BTW, I always have a hard time opening this particular thread. Not sure why, anybody else having this issue?
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: mustang6984 on 2023-12-23 10:05
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2023-12-23 08:46BTW, I always have a hard time opening this particular thread. Not sure why, anybody else having this issue?

Generally I do not...but this time it did take a bit of time watching the little bar slide back and forth...
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: JRD007 on 2023-12-23 10:54
Thanks guys, as to the cleanliness I wish on the maid. I have a mud room on the other side. Yes on the time delay. Not sure why. Probably need someone under 60ty to help out. Will keep you updated as we go.
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: JRD007 on 2024-03-08 21:47
Hello group. Have been dealing with some family health issues. We received some great news daughter is cancer free. So I'm  back on the convertible. I decided to attack the dash. After a in and out of several pieces ( I am thinking of doing a sequence step for installing a dash ). Lol. Now back to the assembly of doors,fenders,inners, trunk and hood. I purchased this car from an old customer of mine when I was in the Automotive parts business. It was all in boxes kinda like a IKEA project so it has been adventure. I'm sure glad I bought all the old parts cars I could. Makes it easy to figure out how to re-Assembly. Heres a few pics
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: KYBlueOval on 2024-03-09 03:41
GREAT news regarding your daughter! The car looks very good, but your Daughter being cancer free, far outweighs it.
John
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2024-03-09 07:22
Pretty awesome on both counts!
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: Ford Blue blood on 2024-03-09 08:07
It is a GREAT day!
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: lalessi1 on 2024-03-09 12:33
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2024-03-09 07:22Pretty awesome on both counts!

X2
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: terry_208 on 2024-03-09 23:14
The car looks but like someone said, it pales compared to your daughter being cancer free!
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: JRD007 on 2024-03-10 10:56
Thank you all
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: Fairlane62 on 2024-03-10 23:28
Good news about your daughter.
Title: Re: Sunliner
Post by: mustang6984 on 2024-03-11 00:40
Any time you can kill cancer...it is a good reason to go get a banana split! Good for her!   :003: