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Title: Auto transmision ?
Post by: outcruisen on 2009-06-29 01:41
Hi again.. Now up to the work on the aut transmision.. I am running the standard auto without the overdrive..

Can anyone shed light on what the actual transmission is, and where I can source the front and rear seals.

Thanking you

Outcruisen
Title: Re: Auto transmision ?
Post by: Hoosier Hurricane on 2009-06-29 06:44
What is the car, and is the transmission original to it?  John
Title: Re: Auto transmision ?
Post by: outcruisen on 2009-06-30 01:24
Its a 1957 Ford Fairlane 500 Victoria Hardtop with the original automatic transmission in it without the overdrive..

Cheers
Title: Re: Auto transmision ?
Post by: Hoosier Hurricane on 2009-06-30 06:02
Front and rear seals are available at NAPA, probably other stores.  They may not list a '57, but through '64 cruisomatic (but not the C4) seals would be the same.  Also, the '57 converter is a two piece affair held together with bolts.  If you take it apart, there is a large O ring type seal between the two halves.  That can also leak.  With the trans out would be a good time to replace that seal also.  fJohn
Title: Re: Auto transmision ?
Post by: outcruisen on 2009-06-30 21:13
Looks to me as it has an after market converter as it is a 1 piece unit and is pretty new.. (The previous owner just confirmed it has been changed).

The auto itself seems to have a cast iron centre body and cast alloy bell housing and rear extension housing.. I am a little confused if this would make it the Cruisomatic or the C4.. Or are you saying that the same front and rear seal will fit both?

Cheers

Mark

Title: Re: Auto transmision ?
Post by: Hoosier Hurricane on 2009-07-01 06:11
The cast iron center makes it a Cruiso.  The aluminum bell housing, if it is original to the transmission, makes it a '61-'62 trans.  Earlier ones had cast iron bellhousings.  The C4 seals will probably not fit.
Title: Re: Auto transmision ?
Post by: Jim on 2009-07-02 20:25
Their should be a part number on the old seals and any bearing house should be able to match with a correct fit.thanks Jim
Title: Re: Auto transmision ?
Post by: Ford Blue blood on 2009-07-05 16:32
Could be a FMX?  Mine (the FMX in my 36 Chevy) has an aluminum bell and tail with a cast iron body.......
Title: Re: Auto transmision ?
Post by: Hoosier Hurricane on 2009-07-06 06:11
Bill:

What engine is in the '36.  The FMXs behind small blocks and big blocks had aluminum bells, the only Y Block aluminum bells were in '61-'62, and FMXs weren't built then.  John
Title: Re: Auto transmision ?
Post by: tarheel57 on 2009-07-06 14:04
Maybe this might help.One way of telling the difference in ford transmisions is by counting the bolts on the bottom pan.A ( C4 will have 11 bolts around the pan ) a ( FMX will have 14 bolts around the pan ) and a ( C6 will have 16 bolts around the pan ),hope this helps. :unitedstates:
Title: Re: Auto transmision ?
Post by: outcruisen on 2009-07-06 19:33
Thanking you.. I will flip the auto over today and count the bolts..

Thank you
Title: Re: Auto transmision ?
Post by: outcruisen on 2009-07-07 01:38
Buy the sounds of your discription.. The FMX wins the day.. (There are 14 bolts on the pan).. Does this sound like a transmision that would have been in a 57 Fairlane with the 312 motor?

Cheers
Title: Re: Auto transmision ?
Post by: Hoosier Hurricane on 2009-07-07 06:54
The old FOM and COMs also had 14 bolts.  On them, on the driver's side, aft of the shift lever, there is probably an oval tag with numbers on it.  Those numbers would be a big help identifying the trans.  An FMX probably does not have that tag.  An FMX also has a vacuum modulator on the back of the main case, also driver's side.  But, COMs from the early '60s also had a modulator.  But they should have the tag.
Title: Re: Auto transmision ?
Post by: Ford Blue blood on 2009-07-09 16:25
John, It is the engine and trans out of a 72 Ranchero.  351C 2bbl and the FMX.  No idea how many miles were on it when I bought it in 1974 but I have put 135K on it since 1980 (first drive) and have done nothing to the engine outside of routine maintenance.  Got a rebuilt tranny out of State Farm as a result of the "Great Flood" at the 92 Nats in Louiseville at about 83K on the clock.  Been a bullet proof setup!  Bill