57fordsforever.com

General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: chapingo17 on 2023-11-21 15:11

Title: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: chapingo17 on 2023-11-21 15:11
I have a really worn out door latch, my door is really loose while driving. Compared with passenger side I could tell there is something loose or worn out. Are these door latches repairable? I have never taken one part? 
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2023-11-21 15:40
Unfortunately, they are not reproduced that I'm aware of, nor is anyone rebuilding them. It took me 4 years to find a NOS driver's side, and that was 10+ years ago. At that, I ended up modifying a Mercury latch. (Passenger side was easy find). most wear comes from the shaft on the starwheel wearing the hole in the protective shield. This is easily viewed, you'll probably see a now-oversized hole.
One other thing to check first............the safety new design of the '57 latch makes the starwheel actually catch on TWO teeth on the door jamb's latch plate. This is verified by closing the door easily to feel if it's just catching the first tooth. This is wheen the door is 1/2" or so from being flush, but still won't let loose without pushing the button. If it does that, and will close " flush" with a harder close, then it's catching on both.
If the hole in the starwheel's shield doesn't appear to be worn too badly, then you may have another issue. Behind the starwheel (still outside the door frame) is a bearing. That bearing rides up on the guide plate that is on the latch plate in front of the two teeth. The starwheel bearing is suppose to actually cause the door to lift about 1/16-1/8 when it latches. That keeps some of the weight of the door being lifted and preventing rattling.
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: chapingo17 on 2023-11-21 15:53
Thank you Rich I will check it when I'm back home.
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: 57chero on 2023-11-21 20:01
I may have a good used one, Ill check in the next couple of days, I remember when I was parting 57s out that the rear door latches on a 4dr were the same they just had a bracket that comes off and they usally were way better shape because of less use.
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: chapingo17 on 2023-11-22 12:43
Thank you that would be great to have. How much would you want for it?
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: 57chero on 2023-11-22 13:11
i will see if I have one first and the condition.
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: 57chero on 2023-11-22 16:03
So, I have a nice one its tight and the springs are good with no gouges or chipped teeth.

$22 includes shipping
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: thomasso on 2023-11-22 18:52
I disassembled mine by grinding the rivets and built up the star wheel with wire feed.  ground and filed to original shape. Also Welded up holes and resized.  Welded back together. This was 6 yrs ago at least, works fine.  New strikers are readibly available.
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: thomasso on 2023-11-22 19:49
I remembered I posted on the rebuild way back 9/14/2016.  Titled, Rebuilding door lock assemblies. With pictures.
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: 1930artdeco on 2023-11-24 11:54
If the star wheel only catches on 2 teeth, then can you rotate the star wheel so it catches on other teeth? Mine will rotate by hand.

Mike
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2023-11-24 16:12
We were refering to the two teeth on the catch plate, not the starwheel.
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: Tom S on 2023-11-24 19:45
Quote from: 57chero on 2023-11-21 20:01I may have a good used one, Ill check in the next couple of days, I remember when I was parting 57s out that the rear door latches on a 4dr were the same they just had a bracket that comes off and they usally were way better shape because of less use.
If he doesn't take it I sure will!
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: 57chero on 2023-11-25 13:02
I don't understand when you post something that somebody needs you never hear from them again, it's happened a few times on here. So, if (chipingo17) doesn't want it, it's up for grabs.
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2023-11-25 14:44
Eric did say he wasn't home when he posted the inquiry......maybe out of town for Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: Tom S on 2023-11-25 16:14
Quote from: 57chero on 2023-11-25 13:02I don't understand when you post something that somebody needs you never hear from them again, it's happened a few times on here. So, if (chipingo17) doesn't want it, it's up for grabs.
Please keep me in mind for that door latch. The chance of finding parts for old cars anywhere up here is next to zero. There are no old cars whatsoever in the few wrecking yards here. I have seen photos of huge wrecking yards full of old cars that you guys in the lower 48 states are so much closer to. Ones that some of you may even be able to drive to in a fairly short time.
Then there is outrageously high cost of shipping. Down there you might be able to get something like a bumper or another fairly large part shipped to you for a fairly reasonable price by UPS or FedEx. That can not happen here. I don't dare think about ordering something like that due to the price that UPS charges for shipping. In fact if I want to order anything from a business down south I will not do so unless they can send it via the USPS. Shipping prices from UPS are two & sometimes even three times the cost of the same item being shipped/mailed via the US Post office.
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: chapingo17 on 2023-11-28 08:27
Sorry, I'm back I was out of town for the holidays. I inspected my door latch and found there's a lot of play side to side on the start. I'm guessing the springs are worn out?  Would there be any way fix this issue?
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: Tom S on 2023-12-02 19:35
57chero, I sent you a pm.
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: chapingo17 on 2023-12-06 07:25
Thanks. Would any one know how to remove link arm clips that attach to the door latch?
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: oldave57 on 2023-12-06 08:11
From the 1957 Ford shop manual, the attached photo shows the clips being removed by rotating them away from the rod which then allows the rod to be pulled out of the hole in the door lock lever.

Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: chapingo17 on 2023-12-06 12:46
Thank you great pic. Thanks.
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: chapingo17 on 2023-12-27 17:17
Received door latch and installed.Thanks again it worked beautifully, door feels like new. Not sure if I could rebuilt the one I have. I believe that mine has a bad star bearing and mechanism that releases door from opening and closing (worn out to much play). Not sure if it make any sense.
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: cokefirst on 2023-12-28 18:15
Quote from: chapingo17 on 2023-12-27 17:17Received door latch and installed.Thanks again it worked beautifully, door feels like new. Not sure if I could rebuilt the one I have. I believe that mine has a bad star bearing and mechanism that releases door from opening and closing (worn out to much play). Not sure if it make any sense.

Whatever you do, DON'T TOSS IT.  The Thunderbird parts places that sell parts for the 55-57 Thunderbirds sell rebuilt units for those models. I am sure whoever is doing it for them can rebuild the passenger cars ones too.  I scored two new door latch mechanisms for my 57 Skyliner and I am going to get my old ones rebuilt.  I may need them later or I may find someone that needs them and will sell them.
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: mustang6984 on 2023-12-28 18:43
Quote from: cokefirst on 2023-12-28 18:15Whatever you do, DON'T TOSS IT.  The Thunderbird parts places that sell parts for the 55-57 Thunderbirds sell rebuilt units for those models. I am sure whoever is doing it for them can rebuild the passenger cars ones too.  I scored two new door latch mechanisms for my 57 Skyliner and I am going to get my old ones rebuilt.  I may need them later or I may find someone that needs them and will sell them.

Good info to keep on file for the future! Thanks!
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: Tom S on 2023-12-28 18:50
Quote from: cokefirst on 2023-12-28 18:15...I am going to get my old ones rebuilt.  I may need them later or I may find someone that needs them and will sell them.
I still need one for my Ranchero's driver side door!
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2023-12-28 23:30
Let us know about getting them rebuilt when you know for sure.
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: Tom S on 2023-12-29 00:32
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2023-12-28 23:30Let us know about getting them rebuilt when you know for sure.
+1
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: chapingo17 on 2023-12-29 12:05
Ok if some one needs one let me know. I will need to be rebuild.
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: Tom S on 2023-12-29 12:43
Quote from: chapingo17 on 2023-12-29 12:05Ok if some one needs one let me know. I will need to be rebuild.
Post #24 >> "I still need one for my Ranchero's driver side door!"
Title: Re: 1957 Fairlane Driver's Side Door Latch
Post by: thomasso on 2023-12-31 16:26
Tom;  I'm away for the winter but if you don't find one before June I'll rebuild it for you for free.  Contact me in late May.  Tom