kick down on a 4100 autolite

57 Ford Kustom · 2012-10-31 15:47

hey Guy's
I talked to Tom S and he suggested a thread on this subject. I have a 4100 carb, I'm putting it on a 351w with a c4. My problem is the kick down, The # C6Af A is for a 66 Tbird with auto tran. My question is what was used for the kick down? Is there a part on the throttle that I don't have with mine (see Pic) ? or did they have some thing different? thanks for the help!
Thanks,
Tim

Ford Blue blood · 2012-10-31 15:58

The kick down for the Birds (61 - 66 I know for sure) (have a 65 under restoration right now) was done at the linkage on the back of the intake manifold. Only one link going to the carbs in those cars.

57 Ford Kustom · 2012-10-31 16:02

Blue blood,
Can you send a pick, or a place I could order one? Would a aftermarket brand work, if so, can you suggest one.
Thanks,
Tim

57 Ford Kustom · 2012-10-31 16:18

I forgot to add that currently I have a cable kick down, Had a edelbrock.
Thanks,
Tim

Ford Blue blood · 2012-10-31 16:19

Tim I will try to get a shot of the linkage and scan the tech manual diagram. This will take a couple of days.....I would recommend contacting www.lokar.com as they have the adapter for the AOD cable and that will work for your setup.

57 Ford Kustom · 2012-10-31 16:40

Blue Blood,
Thanks for the valued input, I emailed them this am, haven't heard back. I can wait for the pic's, cars in the garage for the winter anyway, with the engine half torn apart! LOL
Thanks,
Tim

sprink88 · 2012-10-31 16:50

Thanks Blue blood as I am doing the same thing too.

57 Ford Kustom · 2012-10-31 19:47

Blue Blood,
Do you have the part # for that adapter? The response I got from Lokar tech was " we do not offer anything for your application, you will have to make your own". What kind of response is That?

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Thanks,
Tim

57 Ford Kustom · 2012-10-31 20:44

Blue Blood,
I see on evil bay that they have a couple of ford 352 engine autolite carbs for years 65, and 66 that have a kick down, Why don't the tbird carbs?
Thanks,
Tim

Ford Blue blood · 2012-10-31 22:35

Haven't got the fogiest idea, just know how the Birds are set up. My 63 1/2 (many years ago) was a 4-speed car, Z motor with the 4100 on it so no kick down.

57 Ford Kustom · 2012-11-01 05:17

Blue Blood,
Do they reman the bird set up? or do you know the part # for the Lokar part. It is beginning to look like I may have to buy another carb just for the kick down lever.
Thanks,
Tim

Ford Blue blood · 2012-11-01 07:33

Not that I know of. Google Thunderbird and contact a couple of the vendors listed, I know one in OR deals with used parts and is very responsive. It will be pricey to retro fit the Bird linkage as it is a real "interesting" lash up. You should be able to fabricate a kick down bracket using dimensions off a laqter model carb. I'll try to get the info I have posted today.

KULTULZ · 2012-11-01 15:47

I am sorry I didn't get back to you.

As stated the mid-sixties BIRD had the kick-down rod actuated off the bell-crank and did not have the kick-down lever on the carb throttle shaft.

If you previously used a LOKAR cable as a kick-down, you should be able to piece enough parts from them to mount on the 4100. Would you like me to help or is someone else helping you?

57 Ford Kustom · 2012-11-01 16:52

Thanks guys for all your time and effort, somewhere on this site I got hooked up with classic@championmustang.com. They specialize in the autolite carbs, and sell parts for them!

I was able to purchase the throttle assemby with the kick down for $50.00 +$5.25 S&H.

If anyone is looking for Autolite carbs, or parts, go there, great, and helpfull guys! Just like here! I can't begin to tell you how Blessed I am because of this site, and the Guy's on it!

Thanks,
Tim

Tom S · 2012-11-01 17:22

Quote from: 57 Ford Kustom on 2012-11-01 16:52
Thanks guys for all your time and effort, somewhere on this site I got hooked up with classic@championmustang.com.
........ I was able to purchase the throttle assemby with the kick down for $50.00 ........I can't begin to tell you how Blessed I am because of this site ...

You might return the help & help someone else here by putting up a direct working hot link to that kick down linkage that you bought. I saw someone else was doing the same thing you are trying to do. I found that, or at least one, 'championmustang' site but couldn't find what you bought.
A link to those Autolite carbs you saw on ebay that have a kick down would be nice too. You have me curious to see what they look like now & it might take a long time to search those out. You have already seen them so I assume you could find them again without much trouble?

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