I know some of these may have been posted before, hopefully some of these are new to some of us, enjoy:
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Joe
Think about how those drivers had to climb up onto those trucks and set those ramps into place by hand. I do remember seeing them do those gymnastics back in the old days.
Thanks for posting.
I hope that this whole week of heavy rain will finally let up for us at least by Friday and that we will be able to hook up at the cruise in Halifax. Jay
awesome pics! Thanks for posting these.
Love the pics, especially the 2nd one with all those 4 door hardtops, maybe one of the lighter coloured ones is mine :005:
Thanks guys, I have a bunch more, not all 57's though...
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Great pics thank you for sharing. :001:
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Great pics. thank you!
They are ALL neat, thanks.
Thanks guys! I'll keep 'em coming then.
Jay, I might be able to make it tomorrow, email the details please.
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2018-06-07 04:41
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Is this a 56 crown vic?
The side trim says it's a '55
Grille, park lights, headlight doors, and hood ornament also say '55.
Guys, did you notice the headlight rims on the '56 semi tractors and car haulers? Those of you looking for rims don't have to limit your search to F100s. Like I said in another post, mine came from a garbage truck. John
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Joe
Email sent. Hope to see you this evening. The cruise is at Rt.58 and 106 in Halifax at the Walmart parking lot. There is a separate section for the old cars and they usually get 400-450 old cars. This is what I'll be driving.
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Not sure if these belong here under "Old Ford pics" or if I should start a new thread under "Old Ford Guy" pics?
All in all, was great hooking up with Jay again, and had a great time at the cruise night in my old jalopy. Here's a few pics of Jay's beautiful 1957 300 Custom:
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(Damn....Guenther, those fenders/lights have you written all over them) :003:.... kinda crazy how those two little lights make that same car look like it's two feet wider? :roadrunner:
...and a parting shot back at Jay's shop:
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Great to see your cars out and about.
We had over 500 cars at the Friday night cruise last night. These were the only 57 Fords. Sometimes my old 58 with 406 shows up but it was not there last night. We don't have enough 57 Fords in Mass.
Joe
Thanks for posting the pictures. Your car is beautiful and it is nice and solid.
Jim
Does that hood emblem on my car look familiar to you?
Jeff
I'm putting some miles on my cool new hat.
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Pete DePaolo with one of the two ?67 Fairlanes DePaolo Engineering built for Ford that set 458 USAC and FIA speed and endurance records at the Bonneville Salt Flats in September 1956.
Here it is today...
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"This car is the ninth '57 Ford produced. It is a pre-production pilot car with a lot of unique features not found on ?57 production cars and was sent to De Paolo Engineering in Long Beach, California to be prepped for a run of 50,000 miles to establish the endurance of the ''All New 1957 Fords.'' The goal was to slash the 35,000-miles in 15 days record set by Dodge the year prior and break or establish over 400 World Speed, International Class B (5.0L to 8.0L) and National Class B (305 cid to 488 cid) records. This car set the world record of an incredible 51,403 miles in 20 days with an average speed of 107 mph at the Bonneville salt flats, and helped set 458 USAC and FIA records."
Lots of great stuff being posted here. Joe and Jeff, both your cars looking good. 500 cars is a hell of a cruise. I love hearing about forum members meeting/getting together. Last weekend I did a cruise to Red River, NM with another '57 Ford owner, but he's not a forum member, but as I posted in the morning coffee thread, KiwiRagtop from New Zealand stopped by my house this week.
1st pic is us stopping for gas at Las Vegas, NM (the other las vegas), and the 2nd pic is just north of there about 20 miles at the same mill I posted a pic of a few months ago.
Joe.........where's the Bonneville '57 located now, do you know?
Jay, I'm surprised there aren't more 57s in your area. We have quite a few here and many guys aren't members of this site and when I suggest joining they tell me they don't even have a computer..
I really think we should have a separate area/thread to post all our road trips and events.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2018-06-09 07:51
Lots of great stuff being posted here. Joe and Jeff, both your cars looking good. 500 cars is a hell of a cruise. I love hearing about forum members meeting/getting together. Last weekend I did a cruise to Red River, NM with another '57 Ford owner, but he's not a forum member, but as I posted in the morning coffee thread, KiwiRagtop from New Zealand stopped by my house this week.
1st pic is us stopping for gas at Las Vegas, NM (the other las vegas), and the 2nd pic is just north of there about 20 miles at the same mill I posted a pic of a few months ago.
Joe.........where's the Bonneville '57 located now, do you know?
Rich, as best I know; (
I think it may be in San Diego :102:)
http://www.speedville.com/1957-ford-fairlane-500-club-sedan/
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Not a '57, but still pretty cool video on how a car is taken from design to concept.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPF4fBGNK0U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPF4fBGNK0U)
"This video traces the birth of the 1949 Ford from the drawing board to the roads of the world, showing different stages of automobile design and manufacturing..." Unfortunately only the first half of this film is available, but it is quite good.
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wow, a ski jump for cars. Love the custom Fairlane
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Lots of really cool stuff
post 32......I somehow didn't catch the extended rear fenders at first.....lots of radical sheetmetal work going on there.
post 33.........just like nowadays isn't it?.......your on vacation in the national park in your new convertible, you put on your dress shirt and tie while the wife slips into her dress, high heels., lol. That family was living the dream. Note the baby boomer boys are wearing their Hopalong Cassidy tee shirts. Now, if I could just figure out what the woman is wearing around her hips. looks like hoppalong's six shooter.
post 34........man I've got a spot in my back yard for that Art Decco trailer. Could make an awesome conversion into a guest house
Cool pics. I think the shot of the airborne Fairlane was taken at Ford's Dearborn proving grounds.
Quote from: Marc on 2018-06-13 10:27
Cool pics. I think the shot of the airborne Fairlane was taken at Ford's Dearborn proving grounds.
Yes it was; as were these:
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Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2018-06-13 07:14
Lots of really cool stuff
post 32......I somehow didn't catch the extended rear fenders at first.....lots of radical sheetmetal work going on there.
post 33.........just like nowadays isn't it?.......your on vacation in the national park in your new convertible, you put on your dress shirt and tie while the wife slips into her dress, high heels., lol. That family was living the dream. Note the baby boomer boys are wearing their Hopalong Cassidy tee shirts. Now, if I could just figure out what the woman is wearing around her hips. looks like hoppalong's six shooter.
post 34........man I've got a spot in my back yard for that Art Decco trailer. Could make an awesome conversion into a guest house
Did you watch the video in post #30? I was impressed with the amount of time and work that went into the new models back then.
Just wish I could imbed a youtube video so it shows up on this forum, can't seem to get it to work other than a link???
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Awesome pictures what a great gallery! :001:
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1966 Ford Galaxy 500 "Magic Cruiser"
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Look familiar?
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As much as the Ford Mystere was a product of the jet age, it was also a product of the atomic era. Its multiple antennae and air scoops made it prepared for whatever whiz-bang devices man had invented or could possibly dream of creating. A telephone, television and button and lever controls gave it a futuristic feel inside. On the outside, its jet-age influence was most visible in its clear-roof canopy, twin jet-plane rear exhaust ports and its long, low stance that made it appear as though it was hovering above this planet or the next. It was a package that George Jetson would have proudly ridden to a day at Spacely Sprockets.
For all of its futurism, the wild Mystere featured traits that would appear on production Fords. The side trim made it to 1955 and '56 Fords and the fins to 1957 Fords. It's easy to picture Junior playing with his Robby the Robot from the back seat while Mom prepared pills for a picnic warmed in the in-car microwave oven.
Although the Mystere swooped into the hearts of showgoers during the late 1954 show season, its subsequent history is a black hole.
Joe
You have a cool collection of Ford pictures.
Jay
Thanks Jay, let me know if I start boring you guys. :deadhorse:
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Just keep posting, lol. Lots of guys don't post after pics because it starts cluttering up threads. proof positive..........look at all the clutter I create! Thanks Joe
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Wow,as Jay said, you really DO have some neat Ford pics. I'd never seen that Javelin looking model. Wonder why it never made production, and what year it was. Love the tilt front end.
The dirt racing photo.......really strange surroundings there for a oval dirt track, so maybe something else, like the race up Pikes Peak??
I sure get lost in the old photos.......like realizing the photo of Alcatraz I'm sure couldn't be reproduced because it's all high rises and tourist stuff where the photo was taken from. Ever notice the vast majority of people in the old pics are skinny? And I'm sure it wasn't because we were all going hungry.
Rich, that was the 1968 Ford Techna concept Vehicle ( it was powered by the 427 and looks like it has no A-Pillars!):
Triple-Jointed The Techna, a functional engineering experimental car of the future, unveiled by Ford Motor Co. features new ideas in safety, body and technology.
The Techna, an engineering experimental car with more than 50 new ideas in safety, electronics, powertrain layout, and body and chassis design, has been unveiled by Ford Motor Co. Harold C. MacDonald, engineering vice president, explained the car's doors push straight out instead of swinging on hinges and over all it gives engineers "an opportunity to evaluate innovations realistically and to decide which ones have the most promise for future products"
Source: The Deseret News - Jul 3, 1968
While the 1968 Ford Techna is largely forgotten today, the car may represent one interesting historic first. From what we can gather, this is possibly the first official, published use of the term "concept car" by an American automaker in a technical paper for the SAE, the Society of Automotive Engineers. (Previous Motor City euphemisms included "dream car" and "idea car.") More than the usual styling studio proposal, the Techna was created in part to explore new approaches in engineering, including in vehicle packaging and body construction.
Billed as a full-sized, six-place coupe, the Techna boasted a number of novel construction features, including large, cantilevered doors that moved both out and open for passenger entry and egress. A tilt-up, one-piece nose assembly (ala Jaguar E-Type) provided ample access to the 427 cubic-inch V8, and included a smaller hatch in the center of the hood for checking fluid levels.
Unlike many of its ilk, the Techna was a fully functional and roadworthy prototype. Home movies show the concept vehicle cruising around the city of Dearborn as Ford engineers try out its various gadgets. The cutaway illustration above shows that the front and rear suspension assemblies were based on the production Galaxie. However, the unit-construction floor pan was of honeycomb steel-panel construction, similar to the aluminum tub of the Ford Mark IV Le Mans racer, while the drivetrain was skewed in the chassis 12 degrees to maximize cabin volume.
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I"ll probably catch some flak for saying this but....I think every one was skinny because they worked to get ahead and buy things, not sitting home waiting for the government buy things for them.
Anyways, I'm off my soap box, how about some more "modern" pics:
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Italian designer Carrozzeria Bertone of Turin was commissioned to design and build a special-bodied Mustang to be introduced at the 1965 New York International Automobile show.
BERTONE BUILT A MUSTANG IN 1965 ? BUT IT HASN?T BEEN SEEN SINCE! (http://performance.ford.com/enthusiasts/newsroom/2015/bertone-built-a-mustang-in-1965---but-it-hasnt-been-seen-since-.html)
Bertone Mustang (1965) - Car Design News (http://cardesignnews.com/articles/concept-car-of-the-week/2017/03/bertone-mustang-1965)
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Two 1957 Ford Massachusetts State Police vehicles
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That Italian Mustang isn't what I'd call the most attractive car ever. Gotta say though that the pic of the young lady lying under the Fairlane is one of my favorites.
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I never get tired of girl laying under the 57 picture. :002:
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September 1957
woops, that should be September 1959
This is September 1957
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Love the assembly line pics. Interesting that they had Birds and Lincolns on the same line.
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Sonny & Cher and their custom '66 Mustangs:
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#80-2, Those have to be 2 of the ugliest Mustangs ever built.
#80-3, Note the Manufactures licence plate on the Cobra.
The mustangs have manufacturers plates as well. Agreed on the ugly too!
I guess Steve McQueen probably had lots of companies wanting him to be seen in their cars.
The Cobra has manufacturer plates because the car actually was owned by Carroll Shelby, the Mustangs were actually George Barris's creations, as awful as they were.
https://jalopnik.com/5270674/george-barris-mustangs-tacky-as-sonny-and-cher-inspiration
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Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2018-06-21 19:38
The mustangs have manufacturers plates as well. Agreed on the ugly too!
I guess Steve McQueen probably had lots of companies wanting him to be seen in their cars.
I'm a big fan of the "King of Cool" and have a bunch of photos too!
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Sorry....back to FORD stuff:
Michelle Pfeiffer (and I'm pretty sure that's a Falcon)
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Went to the "local" cruise night ( it's only local for Jay) and we ran into another beautiful '57:
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It was a nice evening at the Halifax cruise. There were three 57 Fords. Cobra Joe's, mine and a retired police officer with a red and white convertible.
As you know, Joe does not like the 58 headlights on his red and white 57 and wants to replace them with 57 headlights. I offered to sell Joe the ret. police officer's front fenders after he walked away from his car. I told him that he would just have to work fast and I have some tools in my car. Joe declined the offer. That's too bad because they were the right color too.
When we were leaving the cruise, we checked the count and there were over 600 cars.. It's nice to have another 57 fordforever member at the local cruise with his car, and he does not waste valuable time looking at those CXXXy things
Thanks Jay. I would have taken you up on your offer, but a pipe wrench and a rubber mallet hardly qualifies as "some tools". :003:
Yeah, 622 and there were still people coming in when we were leaving.
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Hello Everyone, On the first page, In the third picture down, In the middle of the top row is a car with the same side trim as my 57 custom 300 ( 70B ).. I thought like most of the missing pieces on my car the side trim was missing the other pieces I've seen on other 57 custom 300's... Was there different side piece packages available ?? Thanks for sharing your knowledge of these cars..
Glennmichael............first I've been aware of it. It'll be interesting if anyone has the details. Certainly one on a new car delivery truck would indicate it was an option. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
Jay, Joe......I sure wish we had a cruise like that here. That is a beautiful ragtop. Was he local?
Joe..........awesome pics again.
Looks to be either Dick Loehrs or Gas Rhondas long nose Mustangs under construction. Could be Hubert Platts also but the one in foreground looks orange.
These are great photos, many I have never seen before.
Glennmichael, I've seen other Customs with just the single strip and no gold trim so I'm guessing there would've been 2 side trim options for 300's.
However looking at that picture, I noticed something weird about the 4-door Fairlane on the bottom rack. The side trim looks like it continues past the "dip" where the fin starts and travels downward along the back door. I've never seen anything like that in any literature or photos.
Maybe Canadian Fords? Bob Burdoff's famous '57 Custom had side trim he told me was from a Canadian Ford. I was also trying to figure out that black Fairlane, Marc. Just didn't look familiar as we know them, would have liked a full view shot of that one. Also, not sure that they are new vehicles as I first mentioned.
The bottom black one looks like a Meteor Rideau.
Yep, forgot about the Canadian Fords. That's exactly what the black one is.
Thanks guys; I was telling Jay last night that I hope I wasn't boring you guys with some of this stuff. Just let me know when you've had enough....
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How about some celebrities and their Ford products...
Steve McQueen & his Porsche & Ford
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Neil Young and his Lincoln
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Spencer Tracy
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Kevin Cosner and his GT350 H
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Rich
The red + white convertible is a local car. I have been trying to get him to join the site for years.
Joe
Keep the pictures. There is nothing like real old pictures from back in the old days.
I noticed the .com on the billboard in the 2nd pic of post 107. It seems a little strange to have a .com in a pic of a 59 Edsel. Out of curiosity I keyed it in and what to my wonder an escort service in London.
Yeah, I did the same thing, someone "Photo Chopped" it into the old Ford Ad, I thought I had removed it when I had saved the pic, but I apparently didn't save my work. Sorry, I fixed it.
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I thought it was kind of funny!
:iamwithstupid: :003:
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Test
Joe
I really like your collection of old Ford pictures. It's especially nice to see the flashbacks on how some of us actually dressed in the 50's and 60's.
Jay
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When I look at that mustang in post #124, part of me asks why, but then part of me says "damn that is pretty cool though..."
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What is that car in the last 3 pictures? I would hate to have to do a body repair on it.
I got some NOS parts for it!!
It's got my hubcaps.
The 1956-57 Ford X-2000 Concept Car, successor to the 1955 Ford X-1000 Concept Car,
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as well as the 1953 Ford X-100 Concept Car which has a bunch of cool stuff like: a 1952 Lincoln Y-block overhead-valve V-8 with five carburetors on a "Multi-plex throat" intake manifold: one central four-barrel carburetor and four additional two-barrel carburetors around the four-barrel. The Continental 195X also used Firestone radial-ply tires, reportedly making it the first Ford vehicle to use radials. In addition to the power retractable top section which would close automatically when it began to rain thanks to a water sensor mounted to the roof! The X-100 also featured built-in hydraulic jacks, heated seats front and rear, memory power seats, power hood and trunk lid, hot and cold windshield washer sprays, a center console with a telephone and dictaphone and an electric shaver, and thermostatically controlled fans to cool the front brakes.
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regarding #113 the 59 Ford wagon looks to be Brown (mocha ) yellow, I can remember as a 15 year old car crazy kid seeing 3 or 4 for 57 Ford Victorias and one convertible that color combo, in including the salesman demo that sold my father his new 57 Fairlane club Victoria.
It really is a cool color combo. I actually like it more than the red/white combo.
Some more color combos:
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reply 145, Joe thanks for the 3 57 pics, brings back a lot of meriores, I've got a question about the black & Red car (my favorite). I see the seats have red inserts with black bolsters, was this a Ford factory upholstery item? I have a 57 soft trim catalog but it a first edition (November 56) was this offered later?
My fathers car was cumberland green and white with a black and white interior, he ordered it 5 days after the 57 came out in september 56, he got it 2 days before Thanksgiving 1956. The assembly plants were working 24/7 and still couldn't keep up with the orders.
According to this, my guess is no: http://69.89.17.14/~fiv7ford/?page_id=935
http://57fordsforever.com/smf/index.php?topic=5976.0
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2018-06-29 10:37
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I have no idea how many 58 Sedan Deliverys Ford built, but they seem to be much harder to find than the 57s. A friend recently discovered a 58 Canadian Meteor Sedan Delivery that has been off the road since the early 70s. Pretty rusty, its part of an estate sale he is involved with. That cartoonish looking car with the 58s, is a modified English Ford Zepyhr convertible, called " Mr. Beep", which was suposedly used in promoting traffic safety in the Toronto Ontario area. Mr. Beep was featured in an episode of the TV show, "Guild Garage" a while back.
Car carriers
More carcarriers
It's hard to imagine that some of those early car carriers pulling all of that weight were powered by just a little flathead engine.
Good turnout at the Halifax Cruise last night; last count I heard was 600+. Jay and I met another '57 owner, that's his yellow custom behind Jay's and mine:
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Here's some close ups of his FE 406 powered 300 Custom, beautifully done:
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...and a few pics of the cruise:
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Jay, in regards to the Mattapoisett Harbor Cruise: (one of these nights, I'll bring my other Ford)
Shipyard Park
Water Street, Mattapoisett
Daylight hours, plus evenings during special events
With its landmark gazebo, view of Mattapoisett Harbor, and proximity to the busy Town Wharf, the grassy park offers a glimpse of traditional seaside village life. In the summer, there is a small food and ice cream shack open, and there are evening concerts and cruise nights at the park and wharf. In July, the two-day Harbor Days Festival, sponsored by the Mattapoisett Lions Club, draws crowds from throughout the region. The festival is part of a week-long series of Harbor Days events.
Friday Cruise Nights in 2018: May 4, May 18, June 1, June 15, July 6, July 27, August 3, August 17, September 7, September 21. Cruise nights are from 5:00 to 9:00 p.m. and feature DJ Johnny Angel with Rock and Roll music the way you remember it.
Joe
I have not been to the Mattapoisett cruise for years. It was always a nice one on the waterfront. I'll try to get away on some Friday night.
It was nice to see that Yellow and white 57 custom 300 last night in Halifax. Thanks for posting the pictures. They are nice and clear.
I'm glad that you got to meet John V. from our site. Hopefully he will have his 70D all done soon and will be bringing it to the cruise. Jay
Here are some shots of M.S.A. Motors that my father and uncle bought in 1959, as well as photos in 1955 and in the 60's. This was how my brother's and I started to play with Fords.
^ Cool pics. You still have a Ford dealership today?
I'm pretty sure this is how the Shelby Cobra was born.....
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If that is a real picture, I want to think that the nice two door 59 Ford didn't get damaged by the Tupperware perch that it is parked on top of. Just saying.
1956 Ford Styling Department airbrushing
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I love the picture of the 64's at Riverside. I spent countless hours in that corner over the years.
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2018-07-04 06:27
I love the picture of the 64's at Riverside. I spent countless hours in that corner over the years.
Those are from some Holman Moody pics I had. here's a few more of their shop and race cars:
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Whitey Gerken; before and after. (this car was actually restored from this pile of crap;see below)
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Dan Gurney ( RIP ) dominated those early 60's races in Fords. Saturdays had sportsman type sponsored by Permatex and there were 57 Fords included.
Ron Hornaday Sr.
OOOOOOOPS pictures in wrong order
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One of my favorites.................
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Where did I put my time-machine?
Jeff, I have always had a thing for old pictures, especially car pics, and even more for the black & white stuff. For some reason, the B&W pics always seem to be very crisp and clear. What I mean is the black & white pics are in focus throughout the picture, where as color pics seem to be in focus only on the subject and the foreground and/or background are blurred.
Anyways, let me know when you guys have had enough and I'll turn it off, otherwise I still have a bunch of crap saved up, lol.
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Keep em coming! I'm really liking this.
Yes......we've really needed a thread like this on this forum.
I'm confused.........post 186.....the Ford dealership sign. Isn't the A-1 in the arrow a GM thing?
Wow, look at all the kids that just got out of that '57 Custom.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2018-07-06 18:30
I'm confused.........post 186.....the Ford dealership sign. Isn't the A-1 in the arrow a GM thing?
Rich, I'm pretty sure that's a "service entrance" sign. I could be wrong.
Quote from: Lgcustom on 2018-07-06 17:58
Keep em coming! I'm really liking this.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2018-07-06 18:30
Yes......we've really needed a thread like this on this forum.
OK, 'cause it's really hard to gauge as there is no "like" button or feedback, so I wasn't really sure....
Anyways....remember...you guys asked for it...so here's more of my boring crap. :002:
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EDIT:Back on track
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Assembly Line Ford (1928)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkCJkdcl8mw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZnGWJ_6BwU
Keep them coming. I love the B&W photos also and collect them.
Joe..........because this is such a great thread, I feel I need to add my 2 cents about the pics posted in 192. All of the pics are great and I really enjoyed them, but I think it could easily open a bag of worms cluttering up this thread. James has been great at letting us add "off topic" stuff where when this forum originated, when it was strictly '57 Ford only topics, but maybe we don't want to push the envelope too far.
Most of the added boards over the years are still Ford car related, or at least car owner related, like the morning coffee thread.
Yeah, it would be nice if we had a "like button", but I am sure glad we don't have a "don't like" button, lol. With that said, I guess we've mostly forgotten about the "applaud button" we do have.......you should have a lot more applauds (hint, hint)
Rich, heard and corrected, thanks.
Supposedly the most expensive photo ever taken, or so the claim Henry Ford made of this one as he shut down the Model T plant in Highland Park and had all 12,000 employees join in, late 1913, before the assembly line days.
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1940 Mercury Gasoline Economy Test Car 3 The inset shows the visible gasoline test meter mounted on the hood. Official observers can watch the mileage being recorded as fuel goes through the meter.
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Still my favorite movie...
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This dual overhead cam Model T Ford conversion engine was developed by Jack E. Gallivan and was available from 1926 until 1930. The engine had a pair of two-inch valves in each cylinder and the cams were gear driven.
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This car is a Ford Model T chassis equipped with an aftermarket speedster body and splash aprons, pin-drive wire wheels and an accessory front radius rod brace.
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Early radar Sydney Australia
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Joe, where did you find that old pic of 'MY' Country Sedan ? :003:
I wonder where I left my Airstream then....well...I wonnahave....
love that 37 on the 57% grade. all those aold pics are really awesome. and Jim, you're 100% spot on with the 57 topic :002:
love your affection to GT40s and Cobras, Joe. WOW !
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2018-07-07 05:46
Keep them coming. I love the B&W photos also and collect them.
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I sure wish our famly 58 Ford Ranch Wagon was still around when I turned 16 in 1973, but unfortunately it got wrecked in the late 60s when my Dad tried (unsucsessfully!) to teach my Grandmother how to drive. I was in the backseat when she drove the 58 into a telephone pole at 20 MPH in a parking lot. This shot of me sitting on the fender in the summer of 1966 brings back fond memories of me riding in the back of the car, no seat belts of course!
Thanks guys. :003:
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I've been waiting for Edsel fans to chime in :003:
'oooh I'm sorry officer, I didn't mean to say that your patrol car was ugly....maybe different' :003:
I love EDSELs.
I know that thsi is an old pic thread, but I just have to add this one. making proof of how good they can look.
Gunter..not an old thread. Joe just started it recently and has been adding daily. Go back to the beginning if you haven't yet. Tons of wonderful pics.
Rich
These were in behind a small auto repair shop in Oroville, Washington. Almost bought the blue Villager on the end.
Rich, just a small misunderstanding. In saying 'old pic thread' meaning 'vintage-pics thread'. used 'old' since the og thread title is OLD FORD PICS. I've just been quiet lately because of lots of work but have been looking at Joe's great pics from the start.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2018-07-09 08:43
Gunter..not an old thread. Joe just started it recently and has been adding daily. Go back to the beginning if you haven't yet. Tons of wonderful pics.
Rich
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"Because of the unusual V-8 emblems attached to their hats, this pair of models at first glance struck us as space aliens rather than proponents of the Ford. Upon a closer look, they are seen wearing clothing made of special Ford cloth and apparently were going to be in a parade or promotion of some sort and posed for this photo. The Ford dealership was located near the town of Julianadorp, situated in the northern part of the Netherlands on the North Sea. The popular styling of the 1936 Ford was derived by updating the 1935 design with a new front end, rear fenders, and other features.
Starting in the Model T days, instead of exporting cars to foreign countries as many other automakers did, Henry Ford set up factories and assembly plants in the UK, France, and Russia along with other locations around the globe. Ford cars, trucks, and tractors soon became known and trusted worldwide which in time led to record profits for the Company."
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Were I first got to drive at age 12
How many Edsel hurst have you ever seen?
new Model T touring car with wire wheels being delivered. A vacuum Cup tire display in the left front window, and a center door sedan in the showroom window on the right.
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2018-07-09 17:32
"Because of the unusual V-8 emblems attached to their hats, this pair of models at first glance struck us as space aliens rather than proponents of the Ford. Upon a closer look, they are seen wearing clothing made of special
Joe
You got that right . In # 214, those getups really do make them look like they are from some other place. Jay
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Damn those quad headlights... :002:
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Jane mansfield and Lincoln Premiere
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Ken Miles and a GT 350
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The classic Ford vs Chevy race (with the Chevy getting the slight handicap)....New England Style!
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those were the days when you could easily seat 8 in a Ford woodie. People obviously didnt have much luggage to carry along either. Today it's hard to fit a family of three into a midsize car, due to all of the kids toys and gadgets and whatnot.
Ford was DEFINITELY the wagon maker of the 50s and 60s! that '55 is incredibly nice, and that hepcat JD on the hood already managed to get a dent in his father's left fender :003:
I thought the boy in the trench coat with a pipe was a hoot! Can't remember the last time I saw someone with a pipe.
The kid sitting on the fender is looking at his iphone that isn't invented yet.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2018-07-16 12:04
The kid sitting on the fender is looking at his iphone that isn't invented yet.
LMAO Good one :003:
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Joe
Did you see that nice clean green and white 57 Ford Fairlane that was at the cruise last Friday night?
When you get a moment, check your email. Jay
Yes I did, beautiful car:
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Stumbled across this "Full/Radical" Custom. Not to my taste, but some nice work none the less....Is it me, or does this '57 look chopped?.
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Joe, this is the infamous 'Sea Burst', a real old Kustom from the 1960s. It features a crafted 3" chopped 58 HT roof, yet is a 57 Ford.
I love this car. It was for sale this spring at an affordable price, but too much for me anyways.
Thanks Dj, that explains the ribbed roof. It really is a good looking car, quad lights and all.... :deadhorse:
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2018-07-18 04:52
Thanks Dj, that explains the ribbed roof. It really is a good looking car, quad lights and all.... :deadhorse:
Joe
It really is a piece of history especially with the chopped 58 roof, but you made it crystal clear how you really feel about quad headlights on a 57. HAHA They did a lot of work on that car and did you notice that it was used as the family car?
Guenter
I don't know how you manage to keep that information so you can find it so easily.
Jay I like the Seaburst so much, that I made a computer file and saving all the info and pics. If I was rich and a Collector person like Jay Leno, I'd make sure to have that car in my collection. it has speedy looking and beautifully crafted body lines. It's probably where my love of quad headlights in a 57 comes from, although there have been several more ( magazine featured) 57s customized that way in the late 50s. I can imagine to build my Del Rio in a similar fashion.
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oooooohhhh, that's a nice looking Edsel!
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Some self gratification; a pair of my girls:
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WHAT ? :119: :038:
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2018-07-20 02:52
WHAT ? :119: :038:
Yeah Gunther, I used to build those in my shop (for about 15 years; we actually built over 50), that's how I got the nickname "Cobra Joe". I sold my last one (the Daytona Coupe in the pic) about 6 years ago. As a matter of fact. I guy flew in from Germany and bought it and had it shipped back there. I did a 347 stroker, fuel injected, for the coupe:
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The roadster in the picture was mine also, sold that about 2 years earlier. I built a 427 w/ Weber 48 IDA's for it:
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WOW! Joe
That's the way Rockland Motors looked when I moved there in the early 60's
Thank you
What a great collection of pictures you have "This is pure gold". Thank you for sharing. :icon_bigsmurf:
Thank you for sharing the photos. I enjoy seeing them, great collection.
Glad to hear you guys are enjoying them! I was on vacation, so I need to get back to posting. :006:
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looks like the barbequing got out of hand.
400hp in '58!! Are you kidding me, wow. Never even heard of the ER Marauder, never seen one to my knowledge.
Rich, that's because part of the ad is missing; it should read SupER Marauder.
It was a MEL (Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln) similar in some ways to the FE (Ford-Edsel). Here's some info if you're interested. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_MEL_engine
Kinda cool that MOON made the tri power intake for Ford on the 430 cu. in. 400hp version.
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Here's some actual pics; those cast aluminum air cleaners aren't cheap if you can find one, they're going for up to $3K on E-Pay! https://www.ebay.com/i/140429894533?chn=ps
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Oh man I'd love to get my hands on one of those Super Marauders!
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The photo with Central Flying Service in the background was taken at Bowman Field in Louisville Kentucky. That building is still there and as I recall still says Central Flying Service.The control tower can be seen in the right side of the photo. It is still there as well, as this is now a General Aviation Airport.
I couldn't think of a better person to go out and have a drink with than Jim Morrison back in the late 60's. Looks like he had good taste in cars to, if that's his Shelby.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2018-07-31 09:38
I couldn't think of a better person to go out and have a drink with than Jim Morrison back in the late 60's. Looks like he had good taste in cars to, if that's his Shelby.
Not sure which post you are referring to, but if it's #267, that's Steve McQueen, the Cobra pics a couple of pages back are Carroll Shelby
Pretty sure that's the "Lizard King".
You are correct...my bad. I don't know why I had it labeled in my files as McQueen. I just assumed from this pic and the Mustang...
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What....? a Bronco and 'Squareback Variant' in the same used car lot ?.... :003: those little German cars are my second passion.
Steve needed a shave and hair cut back then !
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racing cowboy :003:
hard to drive with spurs
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wow ! cool pics all over. In post #283 is that Fred Steele with his channeled ( not yet) purple Deuce rdstr? looks like a Mass plate to me.
loving the Comets and Mercs in the Auto Exhibition pic.
and the 57 Country Squire parked next to the 56 Tschebberwalky. No need for a discussion about who's the Station wagon King !
Fred Steele's
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nope, different license plate and Freds didnt have a suicide front. not a Nailhead either.
This is my alltime favorite Deuce rdstr.
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Saw this '54 at the bank yesterday?.
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...and these 2 at a local show last Sunday morning
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Somebody caught a Chevy Guy peeing on the front tire of one of the Mustangs.
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1967 Ford Gyro X Alex Tremulis Prototype
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Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2018-08-06 07:27
Somebody caught a Chevy Guy peeing on the front tire of one of the Mustangs.
In #285, that's what it looks like to me also.
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TWO Batmobiles...???
Where did George get 2 Lincoln Dream Cars ?
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2018-08-11 02:31
TWO Batmobiles...???
Where did George get 2 Lincoln Dream Cars ?
DJ, George actually built four and it was even stated specifically in his contract that "...BARRIS is authorized to construct such copies of the Batmobile vehicle as FOX and GREENWAY may approve..." The original was a customized Lincoln, the other three were not.
They were created in November '66, when requests for local appearances were pouring in from all across the country thanks to the show's popularity. The producers were eager to accept as many requests as possible, which was impossible for a single car that was already committed to duty as an on-screen presence. So a few "stand-in" cars had to be created. The replicas were created by making a mold of the #1, then using that to make fiberglass copies to be mounted on extended Ford Galaxie frames. Because of the way they were built, the cars share a number of features. For example, all three have tilt noses, limited interior detailing, and non-functioning trunk lids. At the same time, there are enough differences between them to make each car unique:
The first replica, known as the "#2" car, was powered by a 390 V8 and had neither exterior door handles nor headlights. Its beacon was a cylindrical unit with 8 slats, and it originally had a red/red light set on the canopy arch. It is currently owned by Dr. Dave Anderson of Virginia, USA.
The #3 car was also powered by a 390 V8, though it had a manual transmission at first that was changed over to an automatic to match the other cars. It has both headlights and exterior door handles, but the door handles are for show only. It has a 12-slat cylindrical beacon and its canopy arch light set was originally amber/red. For several years it was missing its rear canopy, but has since been restored and is now part of the Pat Hart Collection in Washington, USA.
The #4 car was the dragster, and was specially modified for speedway exhibitions. It was powered by a 427 V8, and had non-functioning exterior door handles but no headlights. Its beacon and arch lights were a near match for the #3, though the order of the lights was reversed to red/amber. This was likely the only replica used in an episode of Batman, before it was modified for drag racing. These modifications include a drilled rear canopy (to prevent blowout) and a longer exhaust nozzle for the afterburner. It is currently owned by Doug Jackson of California, USA.
There were a few others "Batmobile clones" that were not built by Barriss. There were really only four "official" Barris-produced cars: the #1 Futura conversion, and the three fiberglass replica exhibition/show cars.
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Joe
How do you can keep track of all of that information? I only remember little pieces of it.
Jay
If it is something that I stumble across, I save the info with the pictures, or at least save the link with them. Sometimes I have no info when I save the pic and reverse image search it and can find some stuff that way. Other times, it's just a picture I thought was cool and have no info on.
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Which Barris?
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2018-08-12 10:58
Which Barris?
Is there more then one? I use to go by there when they were building it, I never saw the other three..
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2018-08-12 10:58
Which Barris?
George, he did have a brother Sam that worked with him into the 50's.
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2018-08-12 11:08
Is there more then one? I use to go by there when they were building it, I never saw the other three..
Wow Jim
You remember going by the Barris shop when they were building the batmobile. That has to be real cool.
Did they allow you to go inside also?
we need to hear the story Jim, that is real cool ! we all need to pay respect to Barris and how he built so many show and movie cars, while some of them were not really beautiful. loving the Munster coach or the Monkeemobile. But really the early showcars of the 1950s were among the most beautiful cars ever built. Sam's chopped green Merc must be the ultimate car of the genre. it's so beautiful.
Ahh..George Barris...... He was like the Weird Uncle of Hot rodding!
The "Futura" aka "The one and only Dream Car"
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Quote from: Ecode70D on 2018-08-12 13:16
Wow Jim
You remember going by the Barris shop when they were building the batmobile. That has to be real cool.
Did they allow you to go inside also?
Jay, I never went inside and I didn't have any real interest in custom cars and still don't. We would only see it occasionally either through the front window or in the yard. There were many cars being built and they moved around all the time. Now that I know they built more then one it may have been some of the others we saw at times. At that time we didn't even know it was going to be a Batmobile.
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Looks like that may be Daytona beach. Wonder what's going on in that pic? Most all of those cars look to be stock & not race cars so probably not a 'real' race.
But if it is some kinda race, my money's on 'ol Mad Dog. :001:
Maybe they had something like a flying mile?
Good thing they're going straight........he'd have a heck of a time turning corners with that lack of arm space.
Back to the George Barris thing for a minute, his daughter is having a garage/estate sale there this weekend, tons of old memorabilia, toys, books, poster etc. I don't know about the cars but she said everything is being sold off..
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She look pretty exited!
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She look pretty exited!
I guess if you were a girl, you would be pretty exited if Robert Mitchum was picking you up in a 57 ford!
Quote from: rmk57 on 2018-08-19 10:30
I guess if you were a girl, you would be pretty exited if Robert Mitchum was picking you up in a 57 ford!
No doubt! At first i didn't notice the sign, Looks like it said 'Ledbetters Store'. Then the guy in the tipped back chair on the porch. Got curious about the pic maybe being from what you already knew it was from & found this just seconds before I got your post. https://www.imcdb.org/v117651.html
The big discussion on the 57 in Thunder Road has always been what color the car was. Most black and white photo experts think it was willow green / colonial white?
Was supposed to be filmed in Tennessee / Kentucky but the battered plate looks like a 58 North Carolina plate, where the film was mostly shot.
Not a half bad movie for being pretty low budget.
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Wow! Thanks for all of the vintage photos! I have really enjoyed looking through the history.
I found a photo of the dealership that I worked at just after I got out of highschool in the summer of 1965. Page #12, photo #173 is Don Sanderson Ford, in Glendale Arizona. This was their original Glendale location just across the street from Joe's hamberger stand. They made the best chilli burgers anywhere. This was on the corner of Grand ave and about 57th or 58th ave? About 1960 they built a brand new large 17 acre modern dealership just down the street at 53rd Ave and Grand Ave., with a full body shop, and a large truck shop. This was then the largest ford dealership west of the Missisippi River. They were then (and still are) a Ford Total Performance (Ford Racing) parts stocking dealership. We drag raced a dealership sponsered 1963 Falcon Sprint 289 (11.70's at 2600# in 1967 AHRA C/MP).
MY first job that summer was working in the used car department "setting clocks". This was a commonly done procedure on any used car that was traded in with more than 12,000 miles per year "showing on the odometer". Pull the dash, drop out the odometer, roll off the needed mileage, and put it back together. Of coarse "today", this is a Federal Offense! LOL My how times change in just a short 43 years!
Thanks John, glad you enjoyed them. I remember the procedure vey well, remove the instrument cluster, remove the odometer with the shaft, hold the last 5 wheels together with a piece of masking tape, and slide the first whell off the shaft and rotate in increments of 10K miles to desired mileage. :003:
Different world back then....
My brother's pictures from Seattle.
Nice addition 57liter
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"Setting clocks" I have not heard that term for about 40 years. It suppose it would be difficult today with the electronic stuff and everything that's controlled by a computer.
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Very unique parking lot......or used car lot.........or.........what is that anyways, lol.
Check out this parking lot at Ford:
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Mesmerizing Alternating Diagonal Parking is certainly a mixed metaphor, but it undeniably describes today's image of a modern space-saving parking facility. Where it was shot is not known, but it was taken by professional photographer Joe Clark of Detroit, Michigan, whose specialty was, Pictures that tell a story.
So, if we let Joe Clark's photo tell us the story, it appears that at least ninety-percent or more of the automobiles in the image were produced by the Ford Motor Company. In a quick perusal of the snapshot below, split into two and enlargeable, only one imported car is visible. And, the alternating diagonal layout of the parking lot was set up to save space as apparently the lanes in the facility are one way to leave more room for cars to park and do it in less time.
Based on the story told in this late-1950s image it appears to be a Ford Motor Company facility parking lot, possibly at an assembly plant owned by the automaker.
Seems like lots of cars have to be moved in order to get one out. It also looks like the cars do not have plates on them, so it must be a used car lot.
Thank you for the nice pictures Joe.
Looks like there around 20 or so employees driving brand x vehicles that do not have the same loyalty to the fine automobiles their being paid to assemble.
Don't think they'll be getting the Christmas bonus.
my Grandfather worked at Ford from the 20 until he retired in 1953. He worked in the glass factory at the Twin Cities assembly plant. Ford used to have close parking for employees who drove Ford vehicles but the union got that benefit removed during a labor negotiation.
Jay, parking was handled through lanes that were one way, alternating for each lane, all you had to do was pull in to the left or the right. (People actually knew how to drive back then, it would never work today)
As far as plates, they all appear to have tags on them when you enlarge the picture.
Cokefirst, that sounds about right for a Union.... :deadhorse:
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2018-08-26 06:06
Jay, parking was handled through lanes that were one way, alternating for each lane, all you had to do was pull in to the left or the right. (People actually knew how to drive back then, it would never work today)
As far as plates, they all appear to have tags on them when you enlarge the picture.
Joe Thank you
Now I want to know how you figured that out. You look too young to have been there between all that parking maze.
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I wonder if that is Hereford, Texas, about an hours drive sw of Amarillo.............don't remember any hilly areas around there though, so maybe not.
Joe, can you blow the original up enough to see what state the license plate is?
That green Ranch Wagon looks like one I drove in Mass. for a few months while I was saving $ to replace the 4 speed in my '63 421 Gran Prix. It was cheaper back then to buy an old beater than to buy a 4 speed
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That green Ranch Wagon looks like one I drove in Mass. for a few months while I was saving $ to replace the 4 speed in my '63 421 Gran Prix. It was cheaper back then to buy an old beater than to buy a 4 speed
I can't figure out what the plate is. That is certainly one nice "old beater".
Jay, and our good friend Baumi has his 55 parked next to it... :002:
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2018-08-27 18:25
I wonder if that is Hereford, Texas, about an hours drive sw of Amarillo.............don't remember any hilly areas around there though, so maybe not.
Joe, can you blow the original up enough to see what state the license plate is?
That green Ranch Wagon looks like one I drove in Mass. for a few months while I was saving $ to replace the 4 speed in my '63 421 Gran Prix. It was cheaper back then to buy an old beater than to buy a 4 speed
From the internet:
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Hereford Tavern & Grocery, Oregon - 1950's
In the midst of the hunting and landscape pictures comes this slice of life - the Hereford Tavern and Grocery. Located in the middle of a beautiful nowhere in east-central Oregon - I too once stopped in Hereford on a Deer Hunting trip in the late 1970's."
Here it is today:
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Amazing it is still there and hasn't be turned into a Starbucks :003:
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the first pic is crazy. Does that mean its a 64 Comet wagon with a 430 MEL Marauder engine in it or a 390. 427 or even a 406 ????? holy smoke, it must have torn up the poor car.
the 427 engine was in full swing by 64, so I'd guess it would be a 427. Not sure which version though.
Yep, Mercury version of the Thunderbolt.. :003: By why a four door, I remember his 1964 championship car was a 2 door
I always liked the Marauders..
its crazy that they used those chunky engines in the compacts. the Comet seems to have painted (glass?) bumpers too. and the thunderbolt hood.
Wagons had more weight bias on the rear tires. Maybe even a longer wheel base? They did not have the drag slick tire widths, or drag tire technology that we have today. They tried everything possible to remove the weight from the front (with fiberglass fenders, doors and bumpers, and Plexiglas windows) and relocate the weight to the rear (rear mounted bus sized batteries) to improve traction.
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the first pic is crazy. Does that mean its a 64 Comet wagon with a 430 MEL Marauder engine in it or a 390. 427 or even a 406 ????? holy smoke, it must have torn up the poor car.
For 1964, Ford produced about 50 ultra-high performance lightweight Comet Cyclones, equipped with their racing two-carburetor 427 engine, similar to their cousin, the Ford Thunderbolt. To avoid competing with each other, the Thunderbolts ran in super stock on 7-inch tires, but the Cyclones were modified to run in A/FX on 10-inch tires, where they were as dominant as the Thunderbolts were in super stock. Drivers included Ronnie Sox, Don Nicholson and Wild Bill Shrewsberry in conjunction with Jack Chrisman.
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...now before anybody blows a head gasket over the '58 Chevy in the pic, it's not the focus of attention... the Ferry Winch is Driven by a 1930's Fordson Tractor Engine
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Is that gross weight on the rear quarter by the fuel door?
Yes it is, lol.
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this Del Rio was participant in a fuel economy run.
Thank you for sharing the old photos'. Turns out to be one of my favorite things about this site is to log on and see them, trips back in time.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2018-08-28 19:28...now before anybody blows a head gasket over the '58 Chevy in the pic ....
How dare you!
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Quote from: Wirenut on 2018-08-29 21:01
Thank you for sharing the old photos'. Turns out to be one of my favorite things about this site is to log on and see them, trips back in time.
Thanks, much appreciated.
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Dad looks a little cranky, I guess the putter wasn't working that day.
Does that 63 Wagon actually have bucket seats? as in XL interior?
Looks like a drycleaners bag on the front seat.
Ron.
Quote from: Contibob on 2018-08-30 22:36Does that 63 Wagon actually have bucket seats? as in XL interior?
I think it do.
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Love that Cuba photo. Reminded me of Zapato, RIP. I miss him.
Here s another Cuban 57 :002:
Spent a little while trying to figure how something like that would even happen.
I can see the craigslist ad now: "Original sheetmetal! Minor rust in the usual places, needs TLC, easy resto!"
Maybe it just bent when they DROPPED it on that 3/4 ton truck chassis :003:
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2018-09-03 19:44
Maybe it just bent when they DROPPED it on that 3/4 ton truck chassis :003:
Yes... I noticed those big wheel hubs also. They just make do with what they can find.
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Joe
In the last set of pictures # 390, how did you get a black and white of Guenter's 57 Ford beach wagon In front of the Pilgrim?
In the same set of pics I had a white one like that ..My brother gave it to me when it started to get rusty. Jay
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I'm guessing on this one; so don't shoot me if I'm wrong....
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Not sure what you were guessing...whether he made it or not? I wouldn't think so.
Looks like it was shot out of a cannon
I'm guessing it is a Ford? I'm not really sure???
I'm guessing that it is not a Ford and that he didn't make it to the end of that row of car bodies.
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1949 Ford premiere Waldorf Astoria
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Pic #1 looks like a surprise visit from the executive offices. Pic #2 is a surprise of a different variety. Morbid me wished we could see what's at the bottom/under #2. Earthquake? or just bad /early engineering. Not the tons of rebar you'd expect to see......looks like an expansion joint with NO means of containing it from excess movement ontop of a maybe too narrow bridge support.
Makes me releived I never finished schooling for a Civil Engineering degree.
Schooling, which btw, Joe and Jay, was at Frankiln Institute of Technology in Boston. Long long gone.
Haha....one of my classes was always in a room that had windows facing the YWCA dormitory. One student was always assigned the duty of keeping an eye on the dorm windows and letting the teacher know if anything "interesting" appeared.
#1 Pre Race prep 1966 LeMans
#2 Tasman Bridge Collapse 1975 occurred on the evening of 5 January 1975, in Hobart, the capital city of Australia's island state of Tasmania, when a bulk ore carrier travelling up the Derwent River collided with several pylons of the Tasman Bridge, causing a large section of the bridge deck to collapse onto the ship and into the river below.
#3 The Benjamin Franklin Institute of Technology in Boston, still there today; 41 Berkeley St, Boston, MA
I thought they lost their accredidentials(sp, correct word??) back in the late 60's. I went there 64-66.
On a side note, Rich. a rotted highway bridge collapsed this summer in Genoa, Italy, taking 42 lives.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2018-09-10 18:43
I thought they lost their accredidentials(sp, correct word??) back in the late 60's. I went there 64-66.
http://www.bfit.edu/
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Now that picture of the 56 Merc with the Hillborns is interesting.
Thats a big LYB (Lincoln Y Block) engine nestled in there. They never came with that engine combination.
I"ll bet that was a runnin machine.
Oldmics
One of the "battle birds" had that 430 vs hillborn arraignments. The other had an early production 312 supercharger system. A 1956 ford (never titled or registered) was sold at auction last year in Ohio (I think) with the same motor. Very interesting.
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Couple of my favorite vehicles.....
Quote from: rmk57 on 2018-09-12 18:13
Couple of my favorite vehicles.....
As they should be! Did the '66? Bronco and GT-40 belong to you?
Bruce Mclaren drove it to victory in the 1966 LeMans.
I do own a 66 Bronco though, just not that one.
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Don't know the location
Speaking of pictures this sight might be of interest https://www.imcdb.org/
That's pretty cool Lou.
some Dan Gurney pics...
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Gurney & Shelby...
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Frank Sinatra & 40 Ford
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April 1947-assembly line of Ford plant is halted for the day of Henry Fords funeral
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Conrad Decker at Detroit dragway
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Always love the old assembly line pics. When I see them I wonder if any of the cars in the pic are still around.
Gotta love the Chairman of the Board in a '40 Ford. 90 lbs soaking wet but the gals went crazy for him!
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this one has me a little confused....the Falcon came out in 1960, right?
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Mr. Ed is a 56 Pontiac Chieftain. I don't mind the Pontiacs they had a great racing history.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2018-09-19 21:14
Mr. Ed is a 56 Pontiac Chieftain. I don't mind the Pontiacs they had a great racing history.
My bad, I post in both a random & vintage pic thread in a couple of other forums and I copy and paste a lot of the Ford pics I use here. Unlike the other forums that display your post after you send it, on this board, after you post anything, it brings you back to the main page and I have to admit, I don't always go back to the forum page and check it. I will try and do so in the future when time allows.
Sorry. bawl
Here are a few more to make up for the Pontiac, lol.
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Nothing like starting the day with a bit of nostalgia, Thanks Joe..keep em coming!
Btw, I've never been sent back to the main page after posting something. That is really strange.
EDIT: Thanks Rich, I wonder if it's the browser I'm using? Right now I just posted this using Microsoft Edge and it brought me back to the Main Forum page. I'll try another post using Chrome.
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EDIT: Nope, same thing happened with Chrome, once I hit :POST" it brings me back to the Main Forum page. However, I did notice when I come back and "MODIFY" the post, then hit "SAVE", it brings me back to my post, weird? :felix:
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My bad...I thought you were talking about the main home page, not the forum page. Mine is the same.
Joe
You are doing good. You have completely lost me on how you keep coming up with cool old car pictures.
Will see you tomorrow in Halifax. We may have three 57 Fords there if the weather holds up.
Jay
CobraJoe,
If you hit the attachments and other options link right below the text box, there should be a clicky box you can put an X in that says "return to this topic". I think that should bring you back.
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Thanks Swank. it worked; now if there was only a way to make it permanent... :deadhorse:
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2018-09-21 05:05
Thanks Swank. it worked; now if there was only a way to make it permeant... :deadhorse:
It's always stayed permanent for me. Doesn't the 'Notify me of replies' check box stay permanent for you? *
Well, maybe that's something that's also in the profile. And thanks for all the great pix!
Ahh, yes. Tom is correct. Click on your name, under modify profile click look and layout, theres an option to pick "return to topic by default" box.
Thanks guys, it worked, I guess I should have done a little more exploring on the settings.. :icon_scratch:
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Does anyone here remember John Guenther's 1959 Ford "Beach Boy" ?
" Restyled in 1960, the front fenders on John's Ford were extended 5 inches. The grille cavity was frenched and fitted with a tube bar grille. It featured rolled pans front and back. The front pan incorporated scoops. Scoops were also added to the front fenders. The body was nosed, decked and shaved for door handles, and the gas filler cap was moved into the trunk. The taillights were frenched using 1959 Buick components. The rear quarter panel featured dual frenched aerials and it ran molded in lakes pipes. The build was finished in a wild red color, done in enamel due to the weather. It was dressed up with pinstriping, Appleton spotlights, frosted Plexi-glass plates over the headlights, mag wheels and rear nerf bar type bumpers. Under the hood, everything removable was chromed.
Once completed, the car was shown under the name "Beach Boy" in Canada and the USA. It was also featured in several magazines"
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"In January of 2018 the remains of the car was advertised for sale on Craigslist. It was located in Vancouver, and the asking price was $4800. The body was pretty banged up. Floors, trunk and body mounts were intact and repairable. Seats and roof bows were missing."
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OMG :005: what a shame!
Hey, somebody took a picture of my Country Sedan without asking. Funny, as I can't even remember filling up at Flying A in the past 60 years :002: :003:
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The guy in the first pic of #443 drives just like me, with one arm hanging out the window.
Do you think that we will ever see that "Beach Boy" car back on the road again? Looks like they put hooks under the fender openings to lift it up or to pull it around.
Jay, haven't heard anything about it since the ad.
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a local's humble beginnings...
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Joe, As I'm sure you know, Jack Madden is still in business on RT. 1 in Norwood Ma. Back in 1968 they sponsored a yellow mustang cobra jet called the yellow duck, it ran a lot of the east coast tracks. John
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San Fernando was my home drag strip but I never raced my 57 there.
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Unser family rig at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway museum.
A/FX'ers
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Have to acknowledge all of the people on this thread. It is one of my favorite to go to. A while back at one of our local auto swap meets there was a guy that sold large black and white photos like what I've seen on here. I ended up with quite a stack of them on cars that own. Truly enjoy this, Thanks
Post #456. The 49-51 Meteor "Evans and Hamilton" is from My home town, Vancouver, B.C. Neat!
Thanks guys, glad to hear! There is usually not a lot of chatter on this thread and sometimes wonder if people are getting bored with it. :002:
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2018-10-04 05:02
There is usually not a lot of chatter on this thread and sometimes wonder if people are getting bored with it. :002:
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I always enjoy looking at the pictures. This thread has to hold the record for the longest thread and the subject not being changed :003:
Nobody is bored, trust me. You don't want a thread that is constantly filled with "attaboy" comments, as on big forums like the Hamb. That's when it starts to get boring.
but as long as we're here.............ATTABOY! Thanks again
Thanks guys much appreciated. I know I'm the new kid on the block and just hoping I wasn't over stepping my boundaries. :003:
Ok, back to business....and sorry, but I have a soft spot for '68 Fastbacks
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Joe, I think all of us guys here are diehard Ford fans, so all of your posts and pics are much appreciated. For me a 34 3wd is as cool as a nice Comet or a Cobra or a 64 Galaxie.
Do you have any further information on the 56 Ford in post #463? that is one cool custom and it seems to be early, ie 1960s. it has head rests and way cool scallops on the hood and around the roof and what seems to be sunk Falcon or Galaxie taillights. That is a ride I would love to see more pics of.
I do DJ, I just need to dig them up. Give me a bit
Sorry DJ, I looked everywhere, but I can't find it. I know it's from the James Appleby photo collection of Canadian cars from 1964 I had.....
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2018-10-04 15:15...Do you have any further information on the 56 Ford in post #463? that is one cool custom and it seems to be early, ie 1960s.
I'm a big fan of '56 Fords but that show car you mention doesn't do it for me. Had a nice Tudor Ranch wagon for a long time that I rescued off the street before if was towed away and crushed. It was abandoned. No wheels, most of the glass busted out.
Had a good rebuilt
272 (Wait! it was a 292!) & the T85? overdrive. I should have kept it.
I like the looks of this very clean '56 Vicky a lot better than that show car with those headrests stickin' up. A '56 Vicky, (not the Crown Vic), is another car that's always eluded me. :(
Even those guys sittin' in one of my old vans here are impressed. :002:
I don't where you are getting them from, but keep them coming.
Carl's Black Bird, still around. Getting a SOHC transplant.
that T bird is cooool ! While on the dragstrip with a serious stance it still has customized Glaxie taillights. was probably still a street car?!
Joe, I am not so particular fond of the looks of that show 56, but rather what they did to it. judging by the clothes that people wear in the pic this is pre 1965. and those headrests - while huge, are an interesting touch. I have been thinking in using vintage styled headrests in some of my vintage cars, that I drive daily. a pic like that with the 56 makes proof that they were used even back then. there are even some very famous Barris Hotrods of the very late 50s that sport headrests. even the Lil Deuce Coupe ( also on the beach boys record cover) has them. I want to make them look on my cars as if they were an early 1960s item. As in the pic with the 56. also it has a nice array of louvers in the hood and I just totally like paneling paint/scallops, that run around the driprails and enhance the flow of the car. This is just my personal tast with mild customized cars. Of course the red Vicky is a totally cool and pretty ride. Nothing beats the factory when it comes to 55-57 Fords. Even Einstein thought about it, and said: if you are going faster than a tri Chev, it probably must be a Y block and it will keep the 56 forever young....or so. Elvis was just all shook up. :003:
Hey Jim, I think fall is coming in Cali too. I think you should get out and mount your heating hardtop :002: :003:
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Quote from: Tom S on 2018-10-04 18:28
Even those guys sittin' in one of my old vans here are impressed. :002:
Tom
I think that those guys in your old van are still on the most wanted list. Were they trying to steal the 56 Vicky so they could get away unnoticed?
Jay
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Hey Jim, I think fall is coming in Cali too. I think you should get out and mount your heating hardtop :002: :003:
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Fall can't get here soon enough for me I'm cooked. This weekend should be better and I'm headed north to the Eagle Field drag races..
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Quote from: Ecode70D on 2018-10-05 07:36
Tom I think that those guys in your old van are still on the most wanted list. Were they trying to steal the 56 Vicky so they could get away
unnoticed?
You're right, Jay. We all know that lots of people are still lookin' for at least one of 'em. They were hitch-hikin' & it was real cold out cold out so I picked 'em up. Almost didn't but they looked pretty cold & desperate. The old guy with the wild hair with the younger kinda slick lookin' dude looked like a strange couple.
Anyway, had to detour to the house for a minute & when i came back out the Vicky was gone & so were they. :(
Surprised the van was still there.
Who says ya can't just make this stuff up?! (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/lol.gif)
Gotta have something to really prod the imagination first. Thanks, Jay! :003:
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Two comments / questions about out #481. It looks like the car is suspended from the helicopter over the Ford co. What is the car? Are those vehicles with the smooth front ends that appear to be mounted on skis some sort of early snowmobiles? I never saw anything like that.
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2018-10-06 06:20
Two comments / questions about out #481. It looks like the car is suspended from the helicopter over the Ford co. What is the car? Are those vehicles with the smooth front ends that appear to be mounted on skis some sort of early snowmobiles? I never saw anything like that.
1.)The year is 1970, and to celebrate the one millionth Ford Cortina produced for export, this model took to the skies over Ford's Dagenham site. Just two hours later this rare two-door 1600E Ford Cortina Mkll was with its new owner in Ostend, Belgium.
2.)A facility in Spy Hill, Saskatchewan (Canada) produced Lorch Snowplanes in the 1930?s & 1940?s and Mr. Lorch also built snowplanes in Wolford, North Dakota for about three years. The Wolford models were designed so they could be switched from skis to wheels in the summer. Some reports indicate that with a good tail wind, the later Lorch Snowplanes could reach speeds as high as 90 MPH on the snow. This is a vintage photo of a few Snowplane owners in front of the Spy Hill Garage.
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is that Dick ***on as is Richard Nixon ?
Hey Jay, looking at the guy to the left, how come you made it into the pic but you have the wrong dresscode, possibly an undercover job. :003: and where is your hat ?
Probably only chasing T bird and Galaxie FEs.... :002: :003:
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2018-10-06 15:24
is that Dick ***on as is Richard Nixon ?
Seein' ole 'Tricky Dick' there reminds me of seeing these two very hot babes driving along a downtown Anchorage street in 1972.
Their bumper sticker: "Vote for Nixon in '72, don't change Dicks in the middle of a screw" :001:
Joe
Thanks for the answers to both questions. Can't figure out how come you are so smart.
You must eat drink and sleep old Fords.
Guenter
I was there because I was waiting for those two people to get out of the 1960 Thunderbird convertible so I could take it for a drive. Would you believe that I actually saw one of those with a factory standard shift transmission?
Hardly jay, the internet is the "smart" one. :006:
Bonnie and Clyde's car after they were killed, 1934 Ford
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Those Rancheros on the Salt in #489 reminded me of this pic.
An all gloss black Ranchero has been my dream '57.
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Shipped, delivered, uncrated and ready for assembly... (photo from Australia in 1916 showing a Canadian built T being unpacked)
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# 494 Look where the guy is stooping down in front of the 49 - 50 Ford on the ramps. He wouldn't have much of a chance to get out of the way if that car came loose. It makes me wonder about some of the things that I have done without thinking.
My 1960 T-bird was standard w/OD. I bought the car from the original owner (My neighbors brother) in 1972 and had the car until i sold it in 2005. In 1990 I looked at another 60 standard shift t-bird in Bridgeport, CT but couldn't make a deal on it. In 1964 I worked part time for my best friend's father's gas station and one of the customers drove a standard shift 1961 t-bird.
In the late 60's, I also had a 60 bird with Stick/OD, FE block. I knew of a little newer Bird that had a 4 speed. I don't know if it was factory or not but it appeared stock to me. It was amazing as our town only had 800 residents.
your talk makes me want to own a stick shift Bulletbird. :002:
Somebody say T-Bird?
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Yes Joe Someone said Tbird
Lou and Terry. I had no idea that they made so many factory standard shift later Tbirds. In those years I only saw one of them.
Ecode, I've heard, but never seen any proof of the original 1962 T-bird roadster being offered with a 4 speed.
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Gene Winfield built Jade Idol 56 Merc. which actually never belonged to him. built in several steps for a customer who delivered the brandnew car to 'do something with it'... :003:
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Email was sent to me with the subject being 'Nesting Falcon'.
Text of email:
"I've seen many remarkable nature photographs over the years but this photo of a nesting Falcon in an old tree is perhaps the most remarkable nature shot that I've ever seen. Send this to your older friends, since the younger ones probably have never seen a falcon, and wouldn't recognize it."
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# 506 Resting Falcon.....OK I'll bite. Is that someone's art work?
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2018-10-11 12:09
# 506 Resting Falcon.....OK I'll bite. Is that someone's art work?
The Falcon is an Australian one that ended up there in a flood.
That looks like it's a long way up to be from a flood!
So after seeing Joe's post & just out of curiosity I looked up 'Ford Falcon in a tree'.
Turns out that the flood thing is only from the poem here.
https://www.theherald.com.au/story/4382551/a-falcon-in-a-tree-and-the-flying-rats/
Quote at the bottom of the story:
"We like Bob's poem. But from what we heard the Falcon had been 12 metres up the gum tree since 1985.
Apparently it's on a property near Muckleford South in central Victoria.
Property owner Eddie Ford used a crane to wedge the old car into the tree, as part of a publicity stunt for a book he was publishing."
Sheeh! With the last name of Ford you'd think ol' Eddie would have put one of them brand X 'C-word' things in the tree. (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/tap.gif)
Thanks Tom!
Tom
You did good. Now we know .
How have we managed to go on without this? :003: Really cool, have seen pictures of it over the years but never gave it a thought. Good to know!
Shoulda been a Studebaker Hawk!
Uhoh! Look at this pic!. Something sent this phishing scam mail. Probably too late now but I hope nobody clicked on that http 69 89 17 14 link.
That's not part the normal link that we get with these reply notifications.
Hope Joe, Bill, or anyone else here didn't get some virus on his computer or have their personal info or their email compromised.
Something that saved me years ago is the Malwarebytes program. I somehow got into I got into something that really screwed up my computer & Malwarebytes got rid of it & keeps crap off of the 'puter before it can even get in. I got their premium program & I highly recommend it.
https://www.malwarebytes.com/
Not sure where it came from....I'm on my sister's computer. Never got anything bad from her or the brother-in-law from this machine. I use PCMatic on mine. Like it because they have a "white list" for "OK" web sites and links. Every time something try's to get in a big ol warning pops up. Not sure what he has here, he's a puter geek so I expect this machine is safe.
Quote from: Ford Blue blood on 2018-10-12 14:38
Not sure where it came from....I'm on my sister's computer. Never got anything bad from her or the brother-in-law from this machine. I use PCMatic on mine. Like it because they have a "white list" for "OK" web sites and links. Every time something try's to get in a big ol warning pops up. Not sure what he has here, he's a puter geek so I expect this machine is safe.
Well, the notice just came in from your post here & it still has that warning & that same odd link. Sure looks like something's not right.
I have no issues and use Norton.
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2018-10-12 18:17I have no issues and use Norton.
I used Norton for years. A few years ago my HP computer started giving me warning messages that the hard drive was about to die. Not knowing exactly how to transfer all the content I took the 'puter to a pro business to have them transfer all my stuff to a new hard drive & put it in my 'puter. The older dude that ran the shop installed the free version of Avast on it. He claimed that Norton caused more problems by letting stuff get by that shouldn't.
Emm, ... ok. (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/Doanno.gif)
It seems that with the way Malwarebytes works I could get by without Norton, Avast or any other programs like them.
I'm sorry, guys. I really hate to clutter up this thread with this stuff but it seemed best to warn people of a possible problem.
Maybe Bill's 'puter geek' brother in law has put some settings on that machine that just makes the link read different when we get it & it's actually ok.
Thanks Tom, better safe then sorry, I'll keep my eyes open..
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A Ford worker operating a state-of-the art multiple-spindle drill press on a flathead V-8 engine block in 1934.
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Jay you really have taken this a step too far. I always thought you were a caretaker of old model 40s, only to find out now you cut one up just for racing ??? Now you will have to explain this !
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2018-10-12 18:17
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Busted :003:
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A pickup truck and what appears to be a sedan delivery; note the right-hand side-mount minus tire.
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I know I'm going to hear $hit about the C%#*! pulling out the Ford....
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Have to admit that shot of the 1941 Ford assembly line shows that the front nose was installed before the main body was dropped onto the chassis. I always assumed the nose would go on afterwards, mainly to prevent damage, but obviously I was incorrect.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2018-10-13 13:15
Jay you really have taken this a step too far. I always thought you were a caretaker of old model 40s, only to find out now you cut one up just for racing ??? Now you will have to explain this !
:002: :003:
That pic reminded me of this. The body shell was sitting on some land nearby & when it was was redeveloped years ago someone hauled the good looking body away. Saw it going down the road on a flatbed. I went by & found the land cleared with nothing left except for this discarded hood. '
Ford 406 C.I.'! Had to save it. :001:
I wanted that '33-'34 five window coupe body!
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Cobra Joe. that Site works very well!
Thank you!
My pleasure, glad it worked for you and glad to see someone got some use from the tutorial. Now maybe we can see some of that fancy artwork of yours. Hint...Hint.. :002:
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Lots of cool pics today. Interesting how the bodies on that '40 line came down from an upper level.
very cool. the chrome bumper on the Deluxe still has paper wrapping on the blade but not on bumper horns. we can find a million details in these assembly line pics.
Jeff, that is my friend Alex from Bavaria/Germany in his Hemi powered T roadster. picture was taken at a hill climb event in Sweden.
Alex is known as a very fast (but not careless) driver.
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2018-10-16 02:19
very cool. the chrome bumper on the Deluxe still has paper wrapping on the blade but not on bumper horns. we can find a million details in these assembly line pics.
...and just the opposite here in '55
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I wonder what the story is behind that last pic. Were the woodies finished by an independent coach company? Sure doesn't look like a typical huge Detroit facility.
You made it, Joe....just.... wow. wonder why all those off brands would park in front of the Ford dealership. probably all in a queue for a new FOOOOOOORD..... :002:
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Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2018-10-17 09:13
I wonder what the story is behind that last pic. Were the woodies finished by an independent coach company? Sure doesn't look like a typical huge Detroit facility.
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Today's feature image captured an exceptional day at a Ford agency in Canada. Roger Wood sent in this photograph to a forum and wrote: My father was a Ford dealer in Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada, from the mid-thirties until the early seventies. In 1937 he had an order from the Provincial Department of Fish and Game for ten station wagons.
The photo of the "Woodies" and what appears to be twenty-one members of the staff, was taken when the ten 1937 Ford Station Wagons arrived at the dealership. The lead car in the photo is wearing a license plate which seems to point to the cars having arrived after a "drive away" by the Dealer and staff from a Ford of Canada distributor or importer.The wheelbase of all of the cars appear to be standard length, which leads to a pair of questions: did the automaker offer a special heavy-duty commercial car chassis for uses such as this? Were the extra-length wooden bodies produced by the Briggs Manufacturing Company that apparently was assembling most of Ford's station wagons at the time, or were some of them produced at the Company's Iron Mountain, Michigan plant that was just beginning to build some production wooden bodies?
1932 Ford Model "Y"
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Suits and ties everywhere.
You're the king of "and now the rest of the story", Joe!
Interesting about the Fredricton Ford dealer. My grandfather had a large farm not to far from there between Moncton and Shediac on the coast. He was also the equivalent of a U.S. senator. He was the first one in New Brunswick to have a new Model T. On Sundays locals from miles around would drive their wagons or buggies to the farm for a ride in the new fangled horseless carriage. Sometime in my youth I saw an old photo my mom had of my grandfather giving one of those rides. Fredricton was not too far, posibly my grandfather did business with the Ford dealership in the woodies picture. He was a Ford guy. I always regretted not being able to converse with him.He was a real gentleman farmer. Neither he nor my grandmother spoke English, and my mom never taught us French. My grandmother, and many of my relatives, was a Cormier......Cormierville is also in that area
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2018-10-17 18:451932 Ford Model "Y"
Thanks, Joe, your pix rock. (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/bow.gif)
If you search for
theoldmotor.com 1932 Ford Model "Y" that pic does show up in
Images for theoldmotor.com 1932 Ford Model "Y"But has too many louvers in the hood sides to be a model Y, a smaller car built by Ford in Britain, Germany & France. It's really a USA built 1934 coupe as shown here.
http://theoldmotor.com/?p=74923
"Seen above is an example of that year's production, aptly demonstrating both the rigidity of it's frame and body and the flexibility of it's transverse leaf spring suspension."
Tom is right. the pic shows a 1934 production model, officially called the MODEL 40 on a 112" wheelbase. Today we refer to them only as the 'Thirty Four', which is not totally correct as the 1933 model was also designated MODEL 40 and has just a few different looking things, that can be spotted from outside like the concave shape grillshell, slightly curved hood louvers, different hood latch and thicker door B posts. Next time you meet Jay, you will have to ask him about Model 40s and I think he can teach you 'a few' things about them... :002: :003:.....we both love them 33/34s, Joe.
There is a long story around that typical flexing suspension advertising. It was also pictured in some of the factory brochures. they built the whole car about this flexible chassis and suspension, which sometimes also can be a pain, when restoring or hot rodding one and you will definitely want to have some sort of boxing plates in certain areas. Now it would be great to discuss all of this but, this is the 57 Forum and we do not want to stray too far from that anyways.
Thanks for the clarification guys, I learn something new every day. I knew they were made in England, just wasn't sure of the differences. Thought it was just a name change for the same car, much like the T-5 instead of Mustang in Germany.
Joe, actually the Model Y was built in England and it was first in 1932. it was a very small British ( and like most other European cars of the time). very compact, much smaller than a T or Model A. it had something like a 75cui Inline four Flathead. It immediately proved successful in Britain, because it was really a modern car for the time. Ford USA observed how the British had a hit coming and according to legend, Edsel himself dictated the 33 US ford being an upscale variant of the British Y. , they did exactly that, but with that amount of refinement, so that they designed the most beautiful car ever built on earth. period. A Model 40 Ford is constant flow, changing lines, crowned panels. aerodynamics, art deco. pure hot rod. elegance, style- you name it, it's got it. I think that there are only 3 straight lines on a 33/34 ford. it's the 3 hood hinges......as far as restoring such a car, it is a drama.....but are they beautiful ? well, YESSSSSS ! :003:
this is the tiny Model Y of England, 1932. Later a similar version was built in Cologne, Germany as well. named the Ford Eifel.
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and this is the real deal, good ole US iron.... :002: :003:
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Joe, do you have any information abut the young couple in the Fairlane ?
Nothing other than it was supposedly taken in the Gravesend neighborhood of Brooklyn New York. An almost entirely middle and working class Jewish community, with a sprinkling of Italians, Irish, and Greeks.
The one that got away; I was watching this '41 Ford (a local car) for several months and the price dropped to 29+K and was still too rich for my blood, fast forward a few weeks and the price dropped to 18K or best offer. After a heated conversation with my wife who happens to adore 40-41 Fords, I called and left a message....the return call said he had just sold it for apptox. $15K because it was sitting outside and he needed the room in his garage to add to his collection!
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The one that got away ...
Bummer! Always liked '41 coupes. I missed out on one in the late 1960s. It had about a 30 gallon 2nd tank. Made me wonder if it had been a bootlegger's car from down south.
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37,38 and 41 Fords used to be the un-loved years(not by me....) but in general.
I think a 41 Ford Custom with subtle changes are classical and beautiful.
I second that Jeff. all three of said years can be pretty and interesting cars. lets not forget the famous 1941 bumpers ( for custom application) , and in my opinion the most beautiful of the 40-48 dogdish hubcaps on the DLX. they are stainless to begin with and they carry the gorgeous og. style Ford script in blue paint. what do we want more ? :003: I had these hubcaps on my first Model A Hotrod Pickup and actually now have them on my German 1964 Ford van.
current project...not for the faint of heart!
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not sure if Jay and me will pass the valve covers on the coupe, but the guy trapped under his 34 Phaeton sure is funny. I have been working on a friends 34 Phaeton for years now. the pic reminds me of how we can get trapped in/under a project..... :003:
New York City 1961
only 4 years old and that ragtop is already beat.
I sold this one way too cheap. The V8 Flatty & the brakes needed a lot of help.
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Edsel Ford's 1934 Speedster
The original 1934 design
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..the modifications intended to increase air flow to the radiator
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Front parking lights and grill are 55 as well
Quote from: Contibob on 2018-10-23 22:37Front parking lights and grill are 55 as well
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Holman-Moody Ford Challenger Falcon
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Wow....... If Ford would have made that... the Falcon would have crazy..... At first a quick glance.. Looked like a 64-65 Barracuda roof line melded on!...very cool Joe.
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2018-10-24 05:33
Wow....... If Ford would have made that... the Falcon would have crazy..... At first a quick glance.. Looked like a 64-65 Barracuda roof line melded on!...very cool Joe.
I think it would look better with bigger glass and no trunk, and if you see it on the interwebs it has to true :003:
Cool??......Sorry Jeff, that Falcon is one ugly a$$ car.
and Tom, I have no idea what Contibob was talking about either. I love Edsel Ford's roadster, particularly the modified version.
I agree, looks cobbled together like the Valiant fastback (Barracuda).
A Barralcon?
it was also part of the 1965 Ford Custom Caravan. Well its a race car, so the looks are ok I guess.
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I have always liked the Dean Jeffries modified Python - a 64 Falcon. I think it is awesome.
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Ford did arrange with Customizers to build from the new production models. Also Gene Winfield built the Pacifica Econoline truck.
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http://vanderbiltcuprace.com/blog/article/the_kings_of_the_ford_custom_car_caravan (http://vanderbiltcuprace.com/blog/article/the_kings_of_the_ford_custom_car_caravan)
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2018-10-24 07:18
I think it would look better with bigger glass and no trunk ...
Yeah. And maybe the side glass too. Still.... (http://57fordsforever.com/smf/Smileys/default/dontknow.gif)
Quote from: Tom S on 2018-10-24 13:12
Yeah. And maybe the side glass too. Still.... (http://57fordsforever.com/smf/Smileys/default/dontknow.gif)
As hard as we try it still doesn't fly for me :002:
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2018-10-24 15:43
As hard as we try it still doesn't fly for me :002:
Still, the amount of work H & M did to this car is unbelievable. The body was cut down three inches as well as the roof, never mind building the fastback.
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Quote from: hiball3985 on 2018-10-24 15:43As hard as we try it still doesn't fly for me :002:
Yup. Hard to get away from that bulbous Falcudi lookin' rearend. :( Might be better with a squared off rear window & ...
stuff.
Not a very good job but
maybe looks a
little better. More Ford like?
I doanno why I get into this. Spend way too much time on it sometimes. (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/roll.gif)
Hey, Joe, thanks for that & the profile shot. I always want to see a cars profile.
Yep, lots of work, but those racing guys needed to hire some custom car builders with instructions to forgo the lead!
I guess if you go fast enough anything looks good, and afterall, they were racing, not doing the show car circuit.
This is what happens when you have the luxury of designing a car from the ground up. No Mustang yet but by 63 it was probably on the drawing board.
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:iamwithstupid: The '65 & '66 2+2's are by far my favorite Mustang's followed closely by the '68 fastback, not to mention the "R" codes.
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2018-10-25 16:15
:iamwithstupid: The '65 & '66 2+2's are by far my favorite Mustang's followed closely by the '68 fastback, not to mention the "R" codes.
What about the '67 fastback Stangs? Same body but without the government mandated side marker lights clutter. I think the '67 & '68s are much better lookin' then the '65-'66s. I also like the '69s a lot because of the grille/headlight treatment. Unfortunately, IMO, those 3rd generation 'Sangs marked the start of building Mustangs that increasingly got bigger & heavier.
Quote from: Tom S on 2018-10-25 19:27
What about the '67 fastback Stangs? Same body but without the government mandated side marker lights clutter. I think the '67 & '68s are much better lookin' then the '65-'66s. I also like the '69s a lot because of the grille/headlight treatment. Unfortunately, IMO, those 3rd generation 'Sangs marked the start of building Mustangs that increasingly got bigger & heavier.
The '67's had those ugly, fake side scoops in the quarter panel; the '68 was much cleaner IMO. As far as the side marker lights or reflectors, the '68 had either the recessed or the surface mounted ; depending on the time of production. Honestly, I prefer the recessed myself. Now, here is where the hypocrite in me comes in; I prefer the fake mounted quarter panel/Shelby style brake cooling scoops of the '69 over the clean look of the '70.
Now, as far as bigger and heavier goes; it is pretty obvious by the slower gait of the later Mustang grill emblem of the '70's vs the one of the '60's.
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Hell, even the horse got fatter and slower....
Just my $0.02
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Full service
One that escaped the crusher after being shown as a concept.....
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Great pics, keep em coming !
Thanks, will do...
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I love watching "Thunder Road" whenever I get a chance to, but am always sad to see the ending.
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That is way cool Joe. I wanted to say that it's really early, and it is. but they are not 32 blocks ( pumps in 21 std head, but not horizontal water drain plugs). with the 4bangers in the line this is either a '33 pic or just slightly later (factory exchange) reconditioning units.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2018-10-28 11:59
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totally stunning, valves and cam in block, distributor cover on and even heads on, with no crank yet in case, or is it ? cant make out clearly.
Is that guy at the same time painting the half assembled block on the floor without ever masking the crank or what ?
wow. we learn something everyday. :003:
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Nice T Bird
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2018-10-28 17:34
That is way cool Joe. I wanted to say that it's really early, and it is. but they are not 32 blocks ( pumps in 21 std head, but not horizontal water drain plugs). with the 4bangers in the line this is either a '33 pic or just slightly later (factory exchange) reconditioning units.
totally stunning, valves and cam in block, distributor cover on and even heads on, with no crank yet in case, or is it ? cant make out clearly.
Is that guy at the same time painting the half assembled block on the floor without ever masking the crank or what ?
wow. we learn something everyday. :003:
I've got a bunch more; not sure if they are all Fords...
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No regrets Joe. all genuine Ford Flathead engines ! I am not sure if this is factory assembling of new engines or remanufacturing process, as advertised by Ford back in the day.
the pic in the middle shows 21stud engine (pre 39) and 24 studs (39 up), which indicates a repair shop. the engine to the left shows early factory lightweight hollow lifters. cool !
the last pic shows 21 stud engines with front of block waterpumps and torque tube drive pssgr transmissions with floor shifters, so they should be '38 engines.
They are superb pics for a fan of early iron.
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Speaking of flatheads..1953 Ford. In the mid 50s our family would go on a 2 week vacation to Canada. After loading up the tent, Coleman lantern and stove, and stopping for a big chunk of ice, we would head up Rt 5 through Vermont. On one trip a black '52 Ford sedan with a bunch of guys was itching to pass us. Once they did, the driver cut right in front of us. My father braked and swerved, and asked if I was ok, and said "Don't worry, we stick together as a family." I thought " If I had my dream '53 Ford convertible with a hot flathead, I would have blown by him!"
Route 5 through Vermont, you a Massachusetts boy? Springfield area maybe?
:006:
And are you the same Hemidave on the Hamb now residing in Austin?
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2018-10-29 19:06
Route 5 through Vermont, you a Massachusetts boy? Springfield area maybe?
:006:
Florence, MA
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2018-10-29 21:13
And are you the same Hemidave on the Hamb now residing in Austin?
No Rich, I live in Florence, MA.
Quote from: hemidave on 2018-10-29 23:08
Florence, MA
Close enough, nice to see another member from MA!
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nice story! :001:
Joe's last pic is very cool. in front are 2 little V8-60s so this must be 1937/38 and up. Jay, do you remember seeing Dick's supercool and og 1937 Sedan. I think it has a v8-60 .
edit: I was referring to your post #607.
your latest post also shows the small V8 60hp ( top 2 pics)
gotta love the valve assemblies in the last pic of post #614. These pictures give a lot of insight in V8 production and design. totally cool ! :004:
Ran across some old pix of cars on 4th Avenue, the old main drag in downtown Anchorage.
That's where the kids cruised when I was in high school, & long before that. We especially looked for the girls around the historic 4th Avenue Theater when the movies ended. (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/brows.gif)
Here's one from 1958 on Anchorage's East 5th Ave. Territorial Police office in the background. Down east 5th Ave was, & still is, on to the only way out of town to travel to the lower 48 states by road. Those cars lined up are probably for the restaurant that's next door, behind this view. That lot is still dirt & just has one of those little coffee hut things on it.
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I like the Country Squire wagons
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Estate Motors
Wow.....that '57 Custom was less than a year old at the time. All of the components from other cars probably could have been found in perfect condition in a matter of hours in the L.A. area, and without the internet! Possibly the opposite problem of what we have today in that the stuff they wanted to use was too new for the salvage yards. LOL, I can here it now.....hey, it's 4 o'clock, call Spike at Midnight Auto Supply and tell him we need some '53 Dodge spears here in the morning, and have him find some Lancer caps while he's looking.
I did notice they said the back bumper was stock, which it wasn't. I remember when Buick portholes were the big rage for years and years.
Back in that time period, cars from SoCal would have driven to Tiajuana over a weekend for a new Naughahide rolled and pleated.........no appaointment necessary.
Happy Halloween from Mr. Bates...
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I just watched Psycho last night for the umpteenth time, and enjoy the scenes with the '55 and '57 every time !
We used to go out trick or treating Oct 30 and Oct 31.....
Guys
I received this email from Cobra Joe this morning. I'm kinda computer challenged and don't know how I can help him. If someone can point me in the right direction, I will relay the message to him or call him. Thanks Jay
JOSE GOUVEIA
6:03 AM (1 hour ago)
to me
I haven't been able to log onto the website for the past two days, how about you?
Jay, this might help. I haven'T been able to log in from the top log in button as well (which usually works automatically, once you type in your user name). What I did, there is a second line with buttons below, which says, home... help...calendar.........aso......login..
I used that 'login' button and it leads me to a second window with a seperate login. This is working for me.
December 1957 When I first saw this picture, I couldn't happen to wonder if this was my '57 when new, but the interior may be black/white instead of red/white like mine. Just day dreaming......
x2
I never log out, so don't have to log in. Also, I've got it so it comes right to the forum instead of the main home page.
Thanks DJ and Jay, it worked with the lower login button. I use C Cleaner once a week to clean up my PC and it logs me out of everything, which usually isn't a problem, but this time I got this error message every time.
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Okay, back to business...
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2018-11-01 14:53
Thanks DJ and Jay, it worked with the lower login button. I use C Cleaner once a week to clean up my PC and it logs me out of everything, which usually isn't a problem, but this time I got this error message every time.
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I've been having the same problem and I haven't cleaned anything..
welcome back! Interesting mods on those customs. It didn't say, but I'm wondering if the Socal Ranchero was scalloped by Watson. At minimun, a style copy.
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I love that yellow econoline-type vehicle in post 635. I guess another great prototype that never made it to production?I just can't figure out what that sail was.
Reminds me of the more radical Dodge Deora. I had a Hot Wheel of it when I was a kid.
At the drags
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2018-11-02 09:35
I love that yellow econoline-type vehicle in post 635. I guess another great prototype that never made it to production?I just can't figure out what that sail was.
It's an Explorer concept vehicle and that's a tent:
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"This was the Ford Explorer SUV, a futuristic sport-utility concept
with a midship mounted high-performance 429 cubic inch V-8. The louvers placed behind the doors vented the engine compartment.
The scene is from the 65th annual Chicago Auto Show, held February 24 - March 4, 1973."
Here's another pic :
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I like the idea of showing up with a 67 Fairlane on a 14 ft. open car trailer and winning the Daytona 500. Doesn't hurt having Mario driving to.
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...only because he ran in a Holman-Moody Ford. :003:
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Thanks for the added info and pics.
Perry Mason
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Picture #647...Someone went through a lot of work to make a nice looking car not pretty.
4X
57 station wagons
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Quote from: rmk57 on 2018-11-02 19:22
I like the idea of showing up with a 67 Fairlane on a 14 ft. open car trailer and winning the Daytona 500. Doesn't hurt having Mario driving to.
I saw a segment on TV about Mario & NASCAR a while back.
When Mario was new at NASCAR he started to figure out that he wasn't gettin' the engines that his teammates were. Just didn't have the speed of the others. He went to the Holman-Moody engine shop where he was told that all the engines were the same in power, revs, etc.
All the engines had been tagged with the drivers names. So Mario started to swap some of those tags around & was quickly told that he couldn't do that. That cinched it for Mario. Apparently he raised a stink with someone & finally got better engines. Wish I could find a link to a video where he told this story himself.
I did find this. It tells of other things done to hold him back.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/a32710/mario-andretti-daytona-500-history/
Pretty shameful stuff done to such a great, great driver.
Quote from: Tom S on 2018-11-03 18:17
I saw a segment on TV about Mario & NASCAR a while back.
When Mario was new at NASCAR he started to figure out that he wasn't gettin' the engines that his teammates were. Just didn't have the speed of the others. He went to the Holman-Moody engine shop where he was told that all the engines were the same in power, revs, etc.
All the engines had been tagged with the drivers names. So Mario started to swap some of those tags around & was quickly told that he couldn't do that. That cinched it for Mario. Apparently he raised a stink with someone & finally got better engines. Wish I could find a link to a video where he told this story himself.
I did find this. It tells of other things done to hold him back.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/a32710/mario-andretti-daytona-500-history/
Pretty shameful stuff done to such a great, great driver.
I saw that show also, great story and I was in heaven seeing all those 427's on the truck at the track..
Joe, do you have any info on that killer lookin' '64 Fairlane in post #644? That thing is badass!
Not sure how many have seen this but I still get a kick out of this tank sliding around the corners.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ser-fqlT22M
Quote from: rmk57 on 2018-11-03 18:58
Not sure how many have seen this but I still get a kick out of this tank sliding around the corners.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ser-fqlT22M
That was great!
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Quote from: Tom S on 2018-11-03 18:32
Joe, do you have any info on that killer lookin' '64 Fairlane in post #644? That thing is badass!
"Holman Moody 1964 Ford Fairlane 7-litre at Goodwood
This car is a rare sight in the UK. Turn the clock back, though, and you'll see an original, Holman Moody-built Fairlane Thunderbolt being tested by Alan Mann at the West Sussex track in 1965. We recreated that scene this summer, bringing a similar GT40-beating saloon to a blustery.
Classic Driver readers will be familiar with the grey car's prodigious performance and its stellar record in recent years, winning the Nurburgring Oldtimer Grand Prix Historic Marathon and finishing second overall in the Spa 6 Hours.
The Ford Fairlane Thunderbolt was a homologation special sanctioned by Ford with the aim of putting the largest possible engine (a 427c.i. from the big Galaxie, as used in the Ford Mk IIs) into a small by US standards bodyshell.
The NASCAR welded-in roll-cage, adjustable suspension and front disc brakes are all homologated in period.
Nowadays, this car carries FIA-sanctioned HTP papers and runs in the GTP class against the fastest sports-racing cars; very much like the original did when stock-car specialist Fireball Roberts crossed the line second overall (behind AJ Foyt in a mid-engined Scarab) in the 250-mile American Challenge Cup race held at the FIA-sanctioned Daytona Continental meeting in February 1964.
The Daytona Beach Sunday News Journal described Roberts placing as a shock much the same feeling many drivers have today when the big three-box saloon comes up to lap them and then disappears into the distance.
With a 427c.i. side-oiler V8 (period original, and with many features such as cross-bolted main bearing caps unique to this type of engine), it easily swallows Goodwood's rolling straights. What's surprising, though, is how well it copes with the slower corners, including the famous Goodwood chicane. And, despite fears to the contrary, with judicious restraint on the throttle it kept to the circuit's strict noise regulations, too.
While Alan Mann's car (later owned and raced by Martin Birrane) is now lost to posterity, this faithful recreation was constructed by Holman Moody in 2002-2003. The famous North Carolina-based race shop built the originals, so it was logical to choose them to build up another, using all their expertise and comprehensive record-keeping to produce a correct facsimile of the 1964 original.
he German owners of this car have kept meticulous records of both its build by Holman Moody and the racing record of the original.
It has a history file like few others, and is the only one in the world sanctioned for historic racing and likely to remain that way. So, if you get the chance, do try and see the car in action at the 'Ring or at Spa.
And for those GT40, Lotus, Elva and Brabham drivers tired of being humiliated by the fridge on wheels, you never know, it could be yours one day."
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'58 ragtop
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2018-11-03 20:33
"Holman Moody 1964 Ford Fairlane 7-litre at Goodwood
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Wow! Thanks for the great info& pix, Joe. That '64 Fairlane has a great pedigree & lives up to it by being is even more badass than it looks. It really does look killer but I'd never have guessed that it was all that. (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/bow.gif)
My pleasure
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I have a Big Red on my shelf.
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Love that red/white/blue '59 ^^
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Nice wagons
#655.... Joe
That 59 Thunderbird looked wild going around those curves. Looked like most of the time it was going sideways . I even think that I saw the left front wheel come off the ground a couple of times. Thanks for the great pictures. That guy sure kept it under control. It's too bad that the tail pipe hanger let loose.
Jay
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2018-11-06 11:40
#655.... Joe, That 59 Thunderbird looked wild going around those curves. ... That guy sure kept it under control.
Jay, the guy driving the T-Bird was Tom Kristensen, aka "Mr Le Mans".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Kristensen_(racing_driver)
You can see Kristensen hustle the Holman Moody-built '64 Fairlane Thunderbolt, (posts 644 & 657), around that track in the vid linked below. He started dead last in 29th place & won this race. And he only had one lap of practice!
If you scroll ahead to about the 7 minute mark you can see him going after one of the '63 galaxies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNv4GCrCU10
Great stuff & a great driver. I loved that vid with the T-Bird too.
Great races you guys are posting. Thanks for the links.
Thanks Tom
I looked at the video and he did come up from behind and got right up front and won the race. That was some amazing driving.
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I like pickups also....
The truck ain't bad either. I often wondered how many cars got messed up during a photo shoot with models. Guess most of them were probably 5'2" and 105#, so maybe not too many.
Great stance on that Ranchero.
Ranchero is nice but I'd rather have the Starliner behind it.
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I don't think I've ever seen whitewalls inside and out.
I guess that middle picture shows a torque tube setup I've heard talked about. I have no clue what that's about.....I'm assuming the drive "shaft" is inside the outer tube??, and obviously (or not), the outer tube does not rotate
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2018-11-07 16:57
I don't think I've ever seen whitewalls inside and out.
I guess that middle picture shows a torque tube setup I've heard talked about. I have no clue what that's about.....I'm assuming the drive "shaft" is inside the outer tube??, and obviously (or not), the outer tube does not rotate
This guy, Matt, has been building a version of a model T pretty much from the ground up, he talks about the torque tube for a second around the 3:30 mark.
https://youtu.be/FiVXXvWgJbs
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2018-11-07 16:57
I guess that middle picture shows a torque tube setup I've heard talked about. I have no clue what that's about.....I'm assuming the drive "shaft" is inside the outer tube??, and obviously (or not), the outer tube does not rotate
At your age you've never had a pre-'49 Ford?! I'm shocked! (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/eek.gif)
Yes, the drive shaft is inside the torque tube. There is a pic of a pre-'49 Ford rearend, torque tube and drive shaft here.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1937-1938-1939-1940-Ford-Rear-Axle-Assembly-Driveshaft-Tube-OEM-Parts/153002273771?hash=item239fa56beb:g:a60AAOSwdcZa5eN5:rk:1:pf:0
I can tell you from experience that the stock early Ford rear stabilizer/radius rods alone will not hold up to the torque of big block Ford FE power on a hot rod with a more modern open u-joint driveshaft.
Under hard acceleration they will easily bend. Might even end up destroying the driveshaft & bustin' half the tailshaft portion off of a T10 four speed trans.
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Torque tubes on pre-'49 Fords is what keeps the rear axle from twisting under acceleration & braking.
Aquasco
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Rich
What Swank and Tom were referring to is all true. There is one more part to that story. If you wanted to replace the clutch or flywheel in one of those pre 1949 Fords, you had to remove the rear end or take out the engine. Honestly sometimes it is easier to remove the engine and leave the tranny in place instead of reaching
up there and dealing with that messy torque tube connection behind the tranny.
Believe me you didn't miss anything in not fooling with those 48 and down Fords torque tubes.
Back in the day , they did have some tires with whitewalls on both sides. Jay
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2018-11-08 10:08
Rich ... If you wanted to replace the clutch or flywheel in one of those pre 1949 Fords, you had to remove the rear end or take out the engine. Honestly sometimes it is easier to remove the engine and leave the tranny in place instead of reaching
up there and dealing with that messy torque tube connection behind the tranny. ...
Yeah, definitely easier to remove the engine to replace a clutch or flywheel. I sure don't remember it being any problem with the torque tube to trans connection but getting the rearend out without first knowing that you'd need a spring spreader was a different matter.
After snapping a rear axle I had my 1st car jacked up & propped up so high on some pretty shaky blocking that it's a wonder it didn't fall on me. Still couldn't get the rear spring to clear it's mount. Even after I learned that I needed a spring spreader to go between the spring shackles to flatten the spring out I didn't know where to get one & had no money to get it even if I found one.
I did have the engine in & out of my 'ol '47 Ford a couple times. Last time it was to pull the '47 mill & put in about a 1952 Flatty out of a dump truck. It ran much stronger & the distributor was way easier to get to. I read later that those big truck Flattys came from the factory with a relieved block. Cool!
Engine R & R was a snap compared to pulling the rearend.
Thanks for the schooling, and no I never had an older one that had the torque tube. I had a 32 Ford Cabriolet and a 34ish (?) Ford sedan delivery, both had 9" rears with GM powerplants, both bought as project cars I never did anything with. Other than that, mid fifties or newer. From the sounds of it, and the way I "broke parts" back in my teens, I'm sure glad I didn't.
Here's the other end of that pic:
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'59 ragtop
fantastic pics all over !
that poor 59 'vert in the snow...
loving the 46 sedan with the black rear and www front tire.
37 and 38s are such underrated cars amongst Ford enthusiasts. they are slick and pretty.
back then, I think the torque tubes weren't that bad of an idea. first the U joint is fully covered and lubricated, and then it put the pushing force of the rear axle directly into the stiffest point of car, the transmission cradle and center X member. remember how Ford built those early cars so flexible on purpose, and a different setup would have placed the driving force of rear wheels in the soft and flexible rear part of chassis and body. not so good. Building a hotrod from a pre 48 mostly sees the frame boxed and things become different. Jay's 9" open drive/longitudinal leaf spring setup in our 34 is a real charm and easy to maintain.
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STUDENT DRIVER
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55 years ago today; Fire destroys Ford Rotunda
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The Ford Rotunda in Dearborn was destroyed by fire on Nov. 9, 1962. The popular attraction originally opened in Dearborn in 1936 at the corner of Rotunda Drive and Schaefer Road.
The Rotunda burned down as its popular annual Christmas Fantasy exhibit was being set up. The blaze was caused by weatherproofing tar that was being applied to the dome. The fire caused the building to collapse within an hour.
Only one injury was reported, but the building was a total loss.
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2018-11-09 05:01
.... I think the torque tubes weren't that bad of an idea. first the U joint is fully covered and lubricated, and then it put the pushing force of the rear axle directly into the stiffest point of car, the transmission cradle and center X member. remember how Ford built those early cars so flexible on purpose
One disadvantage of the the torque tube setup was that when the transmission's mounting bolts got loose at the frame mount you ended up with clutch chatter. The engine mount bolts also got loose. The whole driveline, engine to rearend, would move ahead in relation to the frame when you started to let out the clutch. With the the clutch linkage being attached to the frame this would cause the clutch to slightly release. Things suddenly move back again & the clutch catches. It just keeps rapidly repeating.
I've seen this happen to a friend's car & two of my own. Led me to believe that it's not
if those bolts got loose, but just a matter of when. It was so bad on the '29 A-V8 I bought that it was almost impossible to get it moving when I first picked it up. Tighten the bolts & all is good.
I'm not so sure that Ford built those early cars flexible on purpose. I think at first that's just the way the skimpy frames were.
As automobile design advanced frames started getting more ridged & much of the flex went away. The torque tube setup also disappeared.
This quote in an article mentions a pic of a '34 Ford with one wheel up on a block. (posts 549 & 551)
"Seen above is an example of that year's production, aptly demonstrating both the rigidity of it's frame and body and the flexibility of it's transverse leaf spring suspension."
'54 conv
The Rotunda fire burned up most of the production records of pre 62 vehicles.
That's why we can't get Marti reports on our 57's.
Ron.
Tom, I have to disagree slightly. if you ever had a bare A, Deuce or 34 frame in front of you, you might be astounded ( if not shocked) by its flexibility. we are not talking about a boxed hot rod chassis, but factory frames. I once moved an intact 34 frame on a flatbed truck and decided to lift the front first and leave the rear sitting on the truck. I was able to twist the bare frame for several inches by hand, while lifting in front. frame was all intact and not rusted or damaged. they are all open profile beams on purpose. a 34 even has several lightening holes ( not only for exhaust)to keep the strain from the frame while flexing. these are maybe 1/8" thick only. they can in no way be compared to a factory boxed and rigid 57 chassis. You are probably aware of this anyways, since you had both type of cars.
concerning clutch chatter: You probably didnt have them in your A-V8. But Ford used ' stay rods' starting with the 32 Ford. they rigidly tied the engine bellhousing to the K or X member on torque tube drive cars. started with 3/8 diam and became even thicker later on.
if you leave them from a hot rod build, the transmission and engine mounts will have to take the pushing force of the torque tube. which is not a good thing.
Quote from: Tom S on 2018-11-09 22:56
One disadvantage of the the torque tube setup was that when the transmission's mounting bolts got loose at the frame mount you ended up with clutch chatter. The engine mount bolts also got loose. The whole driveline, engine to rearend, would move ahead in relation to the frame when you started to let out the clutch. With the the clutch linkage being attached to the frame this would cause the clutch to slightly release. Things suddenly move back again & the clutch catches. It just keeps rapidly repeating.
I've seen this happen to a friend's car & two of my own. Led me to believe that it's not if those bolts got loose, but just a matter of when. It was so bad on the '29 A-V8 I bought that it was almost impossible to get it moving when I first picked it up. Tighten the bolts & all is good.
I'm not so sure that Ford built those early cars flexible on purpose. I think at first that's just the way the skimpy frames were.
As automobile design advanced frames started getting more ridged & much of the flex went away. The torque tube setup also disappeared.
This quote in an article mentions a pic of a '34 Ford with one wheel up on a block. (posts 549 & 551)
"Seen above is an example of that year's production, aptly demonstrating both the rigidity of it's frame and body and the flexibility of it's transverse leaf spring suspension."
As long as we're disagreeing this morning, lol............Ron said records were lost in the Rotunda fire. Ron obviously knows a heck of a lot more about historical stuff than I, but I kinda got off on a tangent after Joe posted the Rotunda fire pics to do a little research. One of the long articles I read about the fire stated that records were not lost due to a state of the art fire protection system they installed in the archives section after the Rotunda was dismantled and moved. Might have been the wikipedia article.
I've got to admit, I thought the Rounda still existed which is why I did the research. One article I read said a "duplicate", second rotunda was built many years after, but did not go on to say if that second Rotunda still existed.
...between the jack pictures ( which the only reason I posted it was because I knew it wasn't the same as my jack or others that I have seen, but someone said four different jacks were used) and the Rotunda pics, I really seems to be stirring the $hit around here lately. :002:
P.S. I don't think the replica has been started yet: "UPDATE (30.March 2017): A recent update from the Early Ford V-8 Foundation notes that, still short of their $1.9 million fundraising goal by about $500,000, the museum will not begin construction until this summer"
https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2016/11/30/rotunda-replica-plans-back-on-for-early-ford-v-8-museum/
Not "stirring the $hit", just making for great conversation and education! Like it's been talked about before, this forum being a one make, one year forum makes it difficult to keep interest if the posting rules got too strict. So, sometimes the phrase "a picture is worth a thousand words", gets to take on a new meaning for us. Not all of it frequently is not directly '57 Ford related, but we're all car guys with similar interests, so, imho, this "off topic' stuff is really needed to keep this forum alive and well.
This is a link to the wikipedia article I got the info about the archives NOT being lost. Scroll down to "DESTRUCTION". Also below that is some info about the "second Rotunda built for the World's fair in the 60's. IThey did not talk about what happened to that second building.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Rotunda
Well said Rich. many interesting things going on in this old Ford pics thread. I guess most of our members have a second car interest, and most probably it will have a blue oval on it ! :004:
It's a pity that the og Rotunda burned down. I have a few og postcards and literature from the 1934 Chicago world fair where it was first exhibited. 3x 1934 Ford pssgr cars were hung from the ceiling inside. all 3 were attached to a single Ford Wire spoke wheel to show its strength.
this pic was obviously taken in the extension building to the rear of the main Rotunda.
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2018-11-11 02:34
Tom, I have to disagree slightly. if you ever had a bare A, Deuce or 34 frame in front of you, you might be astounded ( if not shocked) by its flexibility.
Don't get me wrong, we are in complete agreement about how
flexy those early frames were. I have had a bare Model A frame in hand & there ain't much to 'em. My modified '32 frame ain't much better.
I only question whether Ford built those early cars flexible on purpose. The quote touting the rigidity of it's 1934 frame seems to say otherwise. That's a long ways from a model T frame that you could just about bend like a pipe cleaner.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2018-11-11 02:34
You probably didnt have them in your A-V8. But Ford used ' stay rods' starting with the 32 Ford. they rigidly tied the engine bellhousing to the K or X member on torque tube drive cars.
I mentioned that the clutch chatter thing happened to a friend's car & two of my own. This was the mid 1960s when we were still in high school. First was with my '47 Tudor, the one with the whitewall on the front only. The PO had done some minor hot rod mods to that car & it didn't have those stay rods/steady rods. He had probably removed them.
Second time was with a friends '48 4 door. It was pretty much stock but it's quite possible someone had removed the steady rods on that one too. Maybe they didn't know what they were for. A bunch of us kids with cars were out on a big drinkin' party at a lake about 70 miles from home when the '48 acted up. I fixed his '48's problem right there 'cause the guy with the '48 didn't have a clue about it.
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2018-11-11 13:27
Well said Rich. many interesting things going on in this old Ford pics thread. I guess most of our members have a second car interest, and most probably it will have a blue oval on it !
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Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2018-11-11 09:59
... just making for great conversation and education! Like it's been talked about before, this forum being a one make, one year forum makes it difficult to keep interest if the posting rules got too strict. So, sometimes the phrase "a picture is worth a thousand words", gets to take on a new meaning for us. Not all of it frequently is not directly '57 Ford related, but we're all car guys with similar interests, so, imho, this "off topic' stuff is really needed to keep this forum alive and well.
:icon_pray:
Glad you guys feel that way, I'll do my part to try and generate traffic. As long as I still have material, I'll keep posting.
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Rich,
Several longtime Ford employees including John V. have verified this info. I suggest you call
Kevin Marti to confirm this as he would be selling this information if it existed.
Ron.
p/s I never read wiki.
Tom, interesting coincidence. when I built my first Model A Hot Rod, I also had a 46 donor car for engine, drivetrain, suspension aso. It was the first time I stumbled upon the stay/steady rods. and first had no idea what they were about, but pretty soon it became obvious that they were part of the torque tube drivetrain and clutch linkage system. I used them ever since. I can see many reasons why someone would not put them back in the car. when you swap a flathead engine in a fully assembled 30/40s Ford, it is nearly impossible to get the steady rods back in, once the engine is in the car. you have to add them before or while setting the engine back in the car. then they really can get bent or stuck in the bellhousing of engine and when replacing an engine, some might not come out or you would have to use a heavy hammer or drive. then there are the countersunk allen head type bolts on the frame( but with a square socket), that typically rust solid and have to be removed by chisel, once the square socket has stripped the head. ( all pre 49 V8s, but on the 32 which has 4 bolts holding them to the K member).
It is also easy to see, that as you mentioned, if the transmission mount bolts were loose, this will add badly to clutch chatter, and fastening them would be a quick remedy, much to the surprise of the unknowing onlookers. How can you repair a clutch by fastening 2 bolts? :003:
Concerning a frame, obviously it was cheaper to use folded or stamped open U or C type profiles for the frame rails and X members, so I am sure Ford was on a budget as usually, building afFORDable means of transport by the millions. But back then they did a lot of reasearch and in my mind I can see building them like that on purpose. also rivets allow for more flexibility without welds cracking from flexing. this is just my personal opinion of those frames. of course also the body has a lot of influence on chassis rigidity ( as on an all- metal sedan) but what about the wood framed Roadsters and Pheatons ( which both of them I am currently restoring), they have NOTHING to add to the strength of the frame and their door latches are designed for a certain amount of body flex from factory.
But most probably, both ways of thinking are somewhat right. Probably they couldn't build them much better on the money at the time, and so they decided to design it as a somewhat flexible unit from the start.
Quote from: Tom S on 2018-11-11 14:14
I mentioned that the clutch chatter thing happened to a friend's car & two of my own. This was the mid 1960s when we were still in high school. First was with my '47 Tudor, the one with the whitewall on the front only. The PO had done some minor hot rod mods to that car & it didn't have those stay rods/steady rods. He had probably removed them.
Second time was with a friends '48 4 door. It was pretty much stock but it's quite possible someone had removed the steady rods on that one too. Maybe they didn't know what they were for. A bunch of us kids with cars were out on a big drinkin' party at a lake about 70 miles from home when the '48 acted up. I fixed his '48's problem right there 'cause the guy with the '48 didn't have a clue about it.
I don't think I even learned about those steady rods until about 15 years later & forgot about 'em since.
I personally doubt that flexibility was intentionally "designed" into those old frames. I would think that the parameters of design didn't include torsional rigidity and that the flex was simply a result of the parameters used. Back then designs were almost always the result of "empirical" data, simple experience, and simple calculations. I say this because I was taught airframe design from a 1948 textbook that was laced with tables and charts of what worked and what hadn't. All in all it was very scary to think that when part of an airplane failed engineers went back and changed the charts. As late as the early 60's airplanes were crashing because of structural failures that were poorly understood. Look at the Lockheed Constellation for example. In the absence of computers, methods of structural analysis were crude and required large factors of safety, it is a miracle that we ever got to the moon....
Fun fact, the Saturn V will not stand up on its own unless it is pressurized.
The King doing notes...
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The lineup of drivers Ford had for the 1969 season was amazing. No wonder they won the championship that year, helped having a Boss 429 under the hood to.
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'57 Convertible in background
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David Pearson -- RIP
Sad to hear that. He was my favorite all time driver.
Is this called 'old Ford pics', yeah ?
Pushing the limits of this forum (until somebody kicks us out) but we need to get this baby in here. and she's ALL FORD ! :003:
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several of them still around and airworthy!
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During World War I, Jack E. Gallivan was a Federal employee working at Chanute Air Base in Rantoul, Illinois. He worked with the Wright-Martin Co. in developing production capabilities to build the French Hispano Suiza aircraft engine in the United States. After the war, he continued helping in the development of an improved Hispano Suiza aircraft engine.
Jack used his knowledge of the Hispano Suiza engine to design, develop, and manufacture the Gallivan cylinder head for the Model T Ford engine in 1926. The head was an eight valve double overhead cam design with hemispherical combustion chambers. Both intake and exhaust valves were 2 inches in diameter. It featured four intake and four exhaust ports 1 7/8 inches in diameter. The cams were driven by spur gears from the front of the crankshaft. The gears were mounted in ball bearings and enclosed by aluminum castings.
The Gallivan head was well built. It had the most speed potential of any of the heads built for the Model T, including the DO Fronty. When it was introduced in 1926, the Fronty heads had been on the market for several years, and had an established reputation with the racing fraternity. Jack Gallivan did not have the resources to effectively compete against the Fronty reputation. A number of racers were very successful using Gallivan heads, but the number sold was nowhere near the numbers sold by Frontenac, RAJO or Roof.
The Gallivan head is very rare today, but is much sought after because of its performance potential and reliability.
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that overhead conversion on what I suppose is a T engine is just breathtaking, Joe. WOW !
twin straight cut cam gears in an aluminium cover. I can barely imagine the noise of that valve train.
what is the cui on the formula engine. were they 2.5 Liters ?
999
Not really sure Gunther, thinking more like 3.5 ltr. " 1989
Capacity was limited to 3500 cc not compressed (no more turbo engines), no refueling.
675 hp at 13000 rpm - (McLaren-Honda RA109E 72? V10)
660 hp at 13000 rpm - (Ferrari with its 035/5 65? V12)"
...but it's more from your neck of the woods: "1989: General view of a Ford engine before the West German Grand Prix at the Hockenheim circuit in West Germany"
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2018-11-13 04:13
Pushing the limits of this forum (until somebody kicks us out) but we need to get this baby in here. and she's ALL FORD ! :003:
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/THUMB.gif) Ford Trimotor, aka 'The Tin Goose'.
Pretty neat emblem.
A better pic of the corrugated aluminum fuselage that gives that plane it's unusual look. Check out the external control wires. No hydraulic assist here.
'57 Ford
Quote from: hemidave on 2018-11-13 20:13
'57 Ford
...and the 1953 Lincoln Capri; George Barris's "Golden Sahara"
The car was the epitome of excess: the rear seat was built around an in-car refrigerator and cocktail bar. In the dash, there was an in-car television, a reel-to-reel player and a hi-fi radio. Lavish gold-plated trim accented the plush upholstery. Basically, this car was better equipped than most people's homes in 1955. The car earned the nickname "The $25,000 custom car" on the cover of the May 1955 Motor Trend.
Read more: https://autoweek.com/article/classic-cars/basement-find-golden-sahara-back-public-eye#ixzz5WpIRUTkG
Headed to the auction block last december:
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A happy couple
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Fueling up
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Thinking of all my Southern Pals for the upcoming holidays.....If your gonna eat Pie.. do it in style with a FORD!
HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
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One of my all time heroes.Robert Williams..the Original Hot Rod Race.....
These prints used to be EVERYWHERE.... now... finding a good print will cost you over 200-400 bucks.....
Robert did these in 76....
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Hold On!!!!!!....... Hellwig slips by for the win!!!!!! in a Vicky!!!!
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Curtis Turner and Fireball Roberts.
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Looks like you got the hang of this Imgur stuff Jeff....
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Shootout
Man, that Chevy police car sure is smoking alot. I guess the crowd across thew street isn'too worried about stray bullets. Dave, any info on this pic?
Dec 1957
"Two desperate gunmen walked through clouds of tear gas with their hands up today, surrendering after a dramatic three - hours in which they dickered for freedom while holding terrified hostages in a bar. Scores of police officers surrounded the Beacon Cafe in this suburb 15 miles southwest of Los Angeles while hundreds of spectators watched as the tense drama played out to its conclusion. First, after negotiations for freedom were unsuccessful, one of the bandits threw out his gun and came out of the bar with his hands up. Then the second bandit left by a back entrance, into the hands of waiting officers. i One of the first hostages to leave was a cocktail waitress who was crying from the tear gas. Another- hostage, James Triggs, came out pleading for air. . Police said they believed there were six hostages with the two bandits in the embattled restaurant. At first it was reported that one of the bandits trapped in the bar was Albert Kostal, an escaped convict who faces a murder charge. But later it was determined that neither was Kostal. The two were taken to the : Inglewood police station and booked on suspicion of robbery. They were identified as Howard Lee Scott, and Roger Arnold Hoskins, both 19, of Inglewood. ., , Officers said that inside the bar were six persons who were kept prisoners by the gunmen. In addition, the bar owner, Ralph Naymola, was inside, but he was in his locked office. The others were identified as Evelyn Shane, 37, a cocktail waitress from another bar; Charley Zirk, the bartender; James Best, Allen Dinsmore, Silven E. Hively and James Triggs. When those inside were finally released they were crying from the teargas. An ambulance was waiting and Miss Shane and one or, two others were taken to a hospital. Naymola, the bar owner, said he arrived at the establishment at 7:30 a.m. while the robbery was in progress. He said that when pence arrived outside he was stand, ing near the office door, dashed Inside and 1v1taH it ' I got along just fine," he later told a reporter. "I just sat there smoking cigarettes and drinking scotch." Naymola said he had a revolver and fired it once as a warning to police that it would be dangerous to come in." "I could have shot at them but I didn't want to," said the bar owner. "I couldn't bring myself to do it. I didn't want to hit an innocent person." Hundreds of spectators watched as scores of police deployed around the area. Plainclothesmen armed with sawed off shotguns crouched behind cars. A ladder was put on the cafe and officers stationed themselves on the roof. Other officers used an adjoining cafe to give them cover. The tense scene was played out in bright sunlight as police dickered through a window with the bandits who kept demanding a car to take a dash for freedom. One of the bandits put a gun to the head of the cocktail waitress, Evelyn Shane, 37, when police threatened to use tear gas."
I guess you did have some info, thanks! How times have changed. Those two were charged with robbery. Nowadays it would be at least a half dozen charges.
I read it took place in Inglewood. Here's one of Inglewood's most famous landmarks.
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Randy
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OOPS
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A holiday Christmas car dealership;1929 Ford Model A in showroom at Christmas
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wow, never seen the GT40 rdstr before...
neat Christmas decoration, but not a 29 as caption suggests. (different cowl/tank shape). according to what we can see from the grillshell, it appears to be a 31 Model. and a special one ! seems to be an A400 convertible sedan - a rare model !
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Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2018-11-15 19:24
I guess you did have some info, thanks! How times have changed. Those two were charged with robbery. Nowadays it would be at least a half dozen charges.
Yes, one charge of robbery and 30 yeas in prison. Today multiple charges, a slap on the wrist, free medical, food stamps etc etc :005:
Love those 300hp convertibles ^^^
Girls camp back in the day
Do you know who this is? :002:
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2018-11-17 14:52
Do you know who this is? :002:
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I do now. Big surprise.
https://www.digitaltransgenderarchive.net/files/0v838063m
https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/christine-jorgensen?mediatype=photography&phrase=christine%20jorgensen&sort=mostpopular
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Jorgensen
'56 Sunliners
Quote from: hemidave on 2018-11-16 22:58
Love those 300hp convertibles ^^^
Girls camp back in the day
One would think they could have come up with a better name for a camp for girls.
1938 Ford on brake testing machine on the production line to enable the line workers to adjust the brakes. The machine appears to spin each of the four wheels by separate drives and a load gauge
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Flying A
The service guy in the white hat...I guess maybe back in the day, if the gal was cute enough you'd give her a kiss on the cheek for fillin' up?
D/G
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2018-11-18 19:51
The service guy in the white hat...I guess maybe back in the day, if the gal was cute enough you'd give her a kiss on the cheek for fillin' up?
They're filming it. Maybe a movie?
Quote from: KYBlueOval on 2018-11-18 04:43
One would think they could have come up with a better name for a camp for girls.
But ... ;D
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Quote from: Tom S on 2018-11-19 03:46
They're filming it. Maybe a movie?
I think that they were making a movie also.
Back in the old days, those old gas stations had so much charm to them. That's something I miss these days.
1949 FORD
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Wow."FORD" tires!!
On the sign on the building....."Fordson".......?? tractors?
On the sign: Cars - Trucks - Tractors
1940 Fords
On the tires, yes Ford tires:
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Fordson was a brand name of tractors and trucks. It was used on a range of mass-produced general-purpose tractors manufactured by Henry Ford & Son Inc from 1917 to 1920, by Ford Motor Company
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRogkHPHqFw
The movie "Tarantula"
Cajun Baby II
awesome drag car ! :004:
My old hero, RIP
A little too much drilling.....
OOPS
That picture looks to be from Mapleridge, a small town (back then) half hour east from Vancouver. Is that a 49 or 50 Meteor on the hook?
JM
2,000,000.TH
Leave it to beaver
Smith's Auto Parts
I love automotive art..... and especially Art from the big 3 during the golden years.I was very lucky to have worked along some of these fine gentlemen in the 90's.
2 have passed and one is now in a nursing home.Kinda sad, because the skill and talent these folks had is now a lost art.
Usually these illustrators would be contracted to one of the big three and work on new assignments.One would do the cars,while the other would add the human elements.
some would just do interiors,some would just do the technical elements....(drivetrains,and such)As many as 5-10 artists would have a hand in these pieces.
Layout artists,comp artists,production artists,graphic designers and illustrators all worked on each piece.
Today... it's a sad state..whereas old Car advertising had a magic,... a fantasy element .... Now.... it's just a highly photoshopped mess... with no room for imagination.
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Thunderbirds are a GO!
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The Po-Po styling in 57 Fords.
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At the studio where i worked and these gentleman did as well... it was closing...I saw MOUNTAINS of art thrown away and in 3 massive dumpsters..all destined for the landfill site.They had a security guard in front, so nobody would take anything.... I worked late and waited until he had a coffee break and did a 10 minute dumpster dive... grabbing what I could.Next day.. all was gone
If your lucky enough to have original Advertising Automotive art(or any Old Ad art from the 70's and down.)..... it's worth a fortune.
I have seen paintings go as high as 20-50K...... usually around the 5-15k mark.. but it depends who didi it.
I have about 10 pieces i saved that night..... Glad i did.(none of the images below)
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It's truly amazing that Ford had 23 automotive models available to the public in 57.... that does not include Mercury or the Ford Truck division.
No Automotive car company ever did that....... and no one ever did it since 57.
Ford employed a vast array of people....... think about all the literature ,manuals,etc,etc.... mind boggling.
Jeff, those are terrific brochures and artwork. I am so dedicated to those old ads, I have amassed a huge collection of 57 Ford stuff, some even in French, German or Dutch. The artwork is absolutely fantastic, and much nicer than mid 60s stuff, IMHO. It's incredible how the rednwhite Skyliner just POPS out of the ad or that raven black/ inca gold Fairline 500...it's nicer than real. the wagon brochure is fantastic, in layout as well. it features a fold out that shows a country Squire.
It definitely would be a nearly a lost art, if it wasn't for guys like you keeping up the trade, even if it is only fiction.
We need to put this in here, since it is an old Ford pic and brochure and art all the same. your artwork is stunning to say the least, Jeff.
WOW !
what do you other guys think about that ?
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Ahhhh.... your much too kind G.......Thank you.....
The Royal Victoria was built by a pal Mark Skipper in California..... very nice guy and his wife Kelly is a sweetheart.
That rendering above was a fast turnaround... but i gave it to them as a surprise for the debut at the GNRS.
Your way to kind G.
A man I bought my first 57 off of was Larry Grillet in Texas.... Larry had the biggest collection of 56 fords and was the President of the 56 Ford Club of America.. anyhow.... He wanted a piece of art and since he had 2 or 3 large warehouses in his town... he wanted an image of one his cars.....(he had so many cars) I think Rich went to his auction.... anyhow..I did up a billboard ad for one of his showrooms....I think he had it printed at about 20 feet long(or so I heard)
After Larry's passing...I wondered where it went.
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who wouldn't want that on the wall actually next to the original ! wow !
we have to admit that 56 Fords do look great as well. very streamlined. the color combo is a charme, especially on a 2dr HT.
the Skipper's 51 Victoria is one of my alltime favorite shoebox Fords. Incredibly balanced and still carries all the details of a true iconic 1950s Custom. It wouldn't look out of place sitting next to Sam Barris 49 Merc or Calori's 36 Ford3w.
And the ad just makes you want to go out and buy a new one...hahaha....
Just for the other guys, to let you know this is not only a dream car out of Jeffs mind, it was actually built that way. Here's the real thing.
(https://www.kustomrama.com/images/4/45/1951-ford-victoria-mark-kelly-skipper-4.jpg)
https://www.kustomrama.com/index.php?title=Kelly_%26_Mark_Skipper%27s_1951_Ford (https://www.kustomrama.com/index.php?title=Kelly_%26_Mark_Skipper%27s_1951_Ford)
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here's another iconic Ford. it leaves you speechless.
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That '51 is my favorite shoebox ever. Yes, Jeff I was at Grillet's auction. As you know, Larry had his own little village of collector cars, parts, work shops, etc etc. Very sad to see it all dispersed. I just drove by where his old dealership showroom was a few months ago, and there's still some '56s in there.
Jeff:............DJ wasn't being too kind at all. You have not only mastered what your mentors taught you, you've mastered bringing that craftsmanship into the computer age. You have something other artists will never have. They just don't know, and worse, they just don't know what they don't know. I can relate to your background, we have alot in common as you know....I'm French Canadian, was taught my (machine shop) trade by the old craftsmen and brought that into the computer world, and 23 years in the art business.
Those brochres you posted are great btw.
Question: when you do a rendering, like Grillet's or Skipper's for example, do you retain the rights to reproduce and sell, or does that vary from job to job, and do you sell reproductions?
thanks Rich.. your very kind.
A Twilight Zone episode
Wagons
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I really like the tail light treatment on that red Meteor in post #784.
Nice conv
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The picture of the 57 #44 in post #795 appears to be Oren Prosser winning one of the Permtex 300 races at Riverside. He was from our local track back in the late 60's.
A pic from my favorite movie
Could never figure out how the nosepiece stayed undamaged and apparently in it's correct position since there are 3 bolts on each end tying it to the fenders, and the fenders on both sides are pushed back. Almost like those bolts weren't there. A made-up wreck?
Dang, i could use that nose piece.
My guess is that the "wrecked" car was fabricated. I wouldn't think you could actually drive through two parked cars at speed and wind up with a car you could drive??? I LOVE that movie, have a copy I watch over and over. It is kinda hoakie though but I don't care.
The 57 in post 795 with 400ci any one know what engine that would have been in 57. JohnV
I was wondering the same thing. I assumed it wasn't a '57 picture.
Quote from: jviera on 2018-12-03 15:06
The 57 in post 795 with 400ci any one know what engine that would have been in 57. JohnV
Judging from Goodyears.. its a mid to late 60''s shot..and I bet its an FE under the hood.
Funny too. the racer is wearing a Firestone jumpsuit....
Quote from: jviera on 2018-12-03 15:06
The 57 in post 795 with 400ci any one know what engine that would have been in 57. JohnV
They used destroked 427's to meet the maximum cu in requirement. In the late 60's many of the top runners were using it in 57 Fords. Oren Prosser and Ron Hornaday Sr. were two of the fastest chewing up tri 5's and spitting them out..
The lady has a strong resemblance to Jackie. Had to take a second look. I don't think the Kennedy clan was into racing, maybe on water.
This is me, idolizing Cec Hardy in the formerly blue Legal Cheater. He still has the car and the restoration is close to completion.
Here is the same car running under the Black Magic banner. Probably around 1971 - Mission Raceway.
It is Oren Prosser at Riverside International Raceway; in 1967 Riverside hosted the inaugural Permatex 100 for late models the day before the 500. Many of the cars were from late 1950s through early 1960's and the winner was Oren Prosser.
The women is actress Lara Lindsay who helped publicize the race with some great promo pictures. She was also in victory lane with Prosser and Parnelli following their wins.
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...and with Parnelli and Robert Petersen in victory lane.
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I also did a double take when I saw the lady I thought Jackie O also
Nice '53 conv
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Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2018-12-03 17:33
The lady has a strong resemblance to Jackie. Had to take a second look. I don't think the Kennedy clan was into racing, maybe on water.
Funny story Rich,.. my grandfather worked indirectly for the Kennedy clan in the prohibition years.. running booze from Montreal down into the states....He was a driver.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2018-12-03 19:06
It is Oren Prosser at Riverside International Raceway; in 1967 Riverside hosted the inaugural Permatex 100 for late models the day before the 500. Many of the cars were from late 1950s through early 1960's and the winner was Oren Prosser.
Yes, Permatex 100, I don't know why I said 300, old age brain fart. I went to every Riverside race until it closed..
That's gonna leave a mark.
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Trying to get a hold of Vince.......
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Never a factory option.. but I do like it.
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Racing is not for the weak.
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super tuff 58
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More Beautiful Ford Ad art.
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Curtis Turner
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Langley Speedway (B.C.) :canada:
390
One of my favorite 57 Ford ads.
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Classy lady and car ^^^ Working on a '58
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'55 Sunliner
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Jeff on your post #825 super tuff 58, I agree it does have that look, but check out the classifieds" for sale" section thumbs up 58 ford 70d for sale
Quote from: jviera on 2018-12-05 17:22
Jeff on your post #825 super tuff 58, I agree it does have that look, but check out the classifieds" for sale" section thumbs up 58 ford 70d for sale
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https://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/cto/d/1958-ford-fairlane/6742053398.html
Looks like a good deal ^^^ Love the old Ford trucks!
Since big earthquakes are on my mind here's a couple Fords after the March 1964 quake & tsunami destroyed the beautiful little town of Valdez. (Pronounced Val-dees, not Val-dez)
32 men, women & children on the Valdez dock to meet an incoming freighter ship died in the tsunami. :( The whole town was later relocated.
One more disaster pic. Seward after the 1964 quake & tsunami. Our family had a '56 Ranch Wagon that looked just like the one here. 312, 4 barrel, auto. Was way faster than it looked!
Fireball
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427
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401 HP
One of the better photos of this car...
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Candlelight Inn
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2018-12-07 04:23
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Wow! That's a fantastic shot also. There's some video of it on you tube from Vancouver Island back in the day that gives you an idea of how treacherous the Gunfighter was to drive. Man, was that thing a handful!
Randy
57 wagon
I was told there is a Gunfighter clone being built in the Spokane or Boise area.
Can't wait.
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That's a awfully small fuel tank to keep a SOHC running for very long.
And look, the Sears parking lot across the street was full. How times change.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2018-12-07 09:28
Wow! That's a fantastic shot also. There's some video of it on you tube from Vancouver Island back in the day that gives you an idea of how treacherous the Gunfighter was to drive.
Would that be this starting at 7:29? I didn't go much further since it's a 44 minute vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iq6zykCy6A
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I like the license plate on the cammer, I guess that makes it street legal :003:
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2018-12-09 09:22
I like the license plate on the cammer, I guess that makes it street legal :003:
I thought the same thing; talk about an inconspicuous plate! :005:
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Bonneville racer Bill Federicks built this street legal digger. It was featured in the March 1968 Car Craft.
Heading to Bonneville
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Dink Widenhouse spins as Don Bailey goes wide to miss him - 1956
Nice
Fireball Roberts
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that pic is just......wow...lacking the words. probably pikes peak? no ?
Sunliner
Doesn't look like the pikes pikes peak area to me, especially at the lower elevations. Probably "just" a dirt track somewhere. I lived on the Colorado Springs side of that mountain for 23 years.
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2018-12-10 17:40
that pic is just......wow...lacking the words. probably pikes peak? no ?
I believe it is Daytona; he finished eighth.
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Great close up shot ! ^^^
Why all the convertible Fairlanes????
Quote from: lalessi1 on 2018-12-11 08:07
Why all the convertible Fairlanes????
The NASCAR Convertible Division was a division of convertible cars early in NASCAR's history, from 1956 until 1959, although the signature race for convertibles remained a Convertible Division race until 1962.
NASCAR purchased SAFE (Society of Auto Sports, Fellowship, and Education)'s all-convertible Circuit of Champions. "All Stars" circuit late in 1955. Most drivers did not make the transition to NASCAR's sanction. NASCAR ran the division from 1956 until 1959. Some Convertibles raced against the Grand National hardtop cars in the same race. The 1959 Daytona 500 had one qualifying race for Convertibles and one for the hardtop Grand National cars. 20 of the 59 cars in the Daytona 500 were convertibles.The split qualifying races of the 1959 race led to the development of the Budweiser Duel qualifying races still used in the Daytona 500.
A pair of 57 Fords battle during the 58 Convertible race - Willbur Rakestraw is in 999
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Please keep those convertible pics coming, I can't get enough of them !
Amazing how "Stock" the race cars were back then. Factory bumpers, side trim, grilles, door handles, even windshield wiper etc. A far cry from a modern NASCAR "stock car", where your V8, rear wheel drive 2 door Taurus doesn`t have a single OE body panel or chassis component on it. I don`t think I`ve watched a NASCAR race since the late 80s, when Bill Elliot, Alan Kuwicki, and Davey Allison were kicking butt with their Thunderbirds. Cars that actually were available & sold as a V8, RWD 2 door production car. What a concept!
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I'm with you 59metor, give me the days of the Taladega Torinos, Daytona Chargers, 427 Fairlanes and Galaxies. Today I can't tell a Ford, from a Chevy or a Toyota, how they can call it stock car is beyond me.
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I really miss those days. I miss the days of the convertibles, our local track ran them and the hardtops together in one class
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Love the TBirds too
NASCAR is dead and it deserve's to be, they took away everything that made the sport great .The best racing is your local tracks.
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They ran a lot of Birds in 59
Queen Diana
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Not sure I even want to ask what that "queen" was about.
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I wonna go back in time with just a pocket full of cash.
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Plexiglass roof
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There were a lot of 59 T-Birds running because the 430 MEL engine was an option.
Ron.
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Post 898 that picture says it all, perfect. John V.
Quote from: hemidave on 2018-12-14 10:20
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That's got to be "It's a mad mad mad mad world", one of my favorite movies! Poor old Jimmy Durante "kicked the bucket".
Nice
Quote from: hemidave on 2018-12-14 22:30
Nice
That car looks very similar to one that use to show up at our local illegal street track back in the 60's. 427 powered.
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PEPSI
Quote from: hemidave on 2018-12-15 09:24
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Haha........."dear, I lost a shoe, be a sweetie and......."
conv
Old Man Winter
Quote from: jviera on 2018-12-14 16:27
Post 898 that picture says it all, perfect. John V.
X2 What John stated
I wonder if that rustbelt Ford is still alive :002:
what's the little French Renault Dauphine doing there right in the middle of ( probably) downtown NYC Christmas shopping traffic ?
Quote from: hemidave on 2018-12-17 20:10
Old Man Winter
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2018-12-18 03:55
( probably) downtown NYC
My guess was totally wrong. only because there is an slant crossroad, doesn't mean it is NY... :003:
it appears to be Herpolsheimer's in Grand Rapids. MI.
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this even has a nice Galaxie in it
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Must have been the hot spot then. :003:
another 57 and even a 57 Merc !
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Great pic, Joe !
this is also nice IMHO:
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What a great shot from Riverside Joe, I've never seen that one..
51s on test track
All great pics! obviously spent a few minutes doing some research, DJ, to figure out where that snowy downtown pic was taken. It's totally amazing the capabilities the internet has brought us when we have the insight to use it.
New arrivals 1933
Thanks guys.
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conv
Frank Deiny, one of our local racers went on to start Speedway Engineering Co.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2018-12-18 16:21
Thanks guys.
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I grew up in Atlanta, and believe these are two photos of a car owned by Raymond Parks. Those that know the real history of NASCAR will recognize his name. Raymond was the money man that got NASCAR going. Once it was "established" Raymond was forced out of the NASCAR ownership. In reading a book about the early days of NASCAR, I learned about Raymonds' money man role and that he hired, back in the late 40's, early 50's, a driver to run moonshine from Dawsonville to Atlanta. That driver was the father of a kid I went to high school with.
I met Mr. Parks in 1970, as he owned a very nice Liquor Store on Peachtree Rd. in Atlanta. He was very direct, no small talk, kind of guy. Small world!
1958 Convertible race - John Hamby in the #125 and Possum Jones in the #48 are looking the wrong way as the #999 of Wilbur R passes by.
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Great convertible racing pics! ^^^ I remember seeing a short clip of a '58 race where the manufacturers could use any engine available that their company produced. It showed a '58 Sunliner that I think was powered by a 430 Lincoln mill racing around the track! I wonder if there are any pics of that special race ??
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2018-12-18 04:01
My guess was totally wrong. only because there is an slant crossroad, doesn't mean it is NY... :003:
it appears to be Herpolsheimer's in Grand Rapids. MI.
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this even has a nice Galaxie in it
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Mensch. Guenter
How in the world did you figure that out?
A few station wagons
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Curtis Turner wins the NASCAR Grand National Convertible Championship race - 1956
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Jay that was actually quite easy. the shop name Herpolsheimer's was easily legible in the first winter pic. being that this is a rare German name, I thought why not investigate it and soon got to the right name and city. from that it was easy finding period pics of the very same crossroads....
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2018-12-19 11:54
Mensch. Guenter
How in the world did you figure that out?
Nice car hauler.
Beautiful Sunliner
Somebody needs to tell her that cigarette's are hazardous to your health.
Darlington '57
DePaolo team
A shot from my hometown in the mid 50's.... big trouble at Greens.. the Woman were causing a Ruckus..... The cops had to show up in the 55 Ford.
hahaha
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Eddie Pagan's 57 Ford is unloaded before the 1958 GN race. Pagan took 8th place in the race. Courtesy of Bud Layton.
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Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2018-12-20 04:19
A shot from my hometown in the mid 50's.... big trouble at Greens.. the Woman were causing a Ruckus..... The cops had to show up in the 55 Ford.
hahaha
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I could guarantee it was a year end shoe sale.
Larry Frank
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Glen Wood
Got to see him race twice, once at O.C.I.R. and at Lions, although it was in 69 Mach 1 bodied funny car.
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56 Sunliner
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From our Ford Police Thread.. the pics are easier on this thread....
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Marathon, FL
#946 Jeff.. Notice the State police officer pulled over a black 57 custom similar to the one that he is driving. "He did that so he could confiscate the car and put it into service as an unmarked car." That's a lie and I'm sticking with it.
Actually they did have some real cool looking unmarked cars.
Two great drivers
One more of Gas Ronda. Pretty sure that's Art Chrisman in the far lane in a 66 Comet in one of the first "flip top" funny cars.
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JW
Steve and his wife
Walker's
Pace car
Watching a 1957 episode of Perry Mason. Whitney Blake drives a '41 Ford conv chased by a guy driving a black '57 sedan. Mason investigates driving his Skyliner.
1971 Ford Bronco.
1972 Econoline & the '58 'Edchero' buried in snow.
I refuse to join FaceBork but I did find this pic here.
https://www.facebook.com/57-Fords-International-182566455114071/
Oh, YEAH! 'Red Lightin' sounds mean. (http://57fordsforever.com/smf/Smileys/default/thumbsup.gif)
https://www.facebook.com/182566455114071/videos/1255194387851267/
Merry Christmas !!
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State Police
Been there, done that.
Quote from: hemidave on 2018-12-25 09:48Been there, done that.
Yup. Sometimes still need to do it out in the dark, snow & cold. Lots of dark here in winter.
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Looking through some photos with the family tonight.
My wifes mom with the 56, and her grandmother with the 59.
Her grandfather was a mechanic at a ford dealership near Centreville, MS.
From a long line of good taste in cars (and ladies)I see. Even the bubbletop, lol.
Sunliner
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Twilight Zone episode
I have a good idea which company supplied the vehicles for the Twilight Zone TV series.
Top down
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Pace car
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Great shot of Parnelli, looks like turn 6.
:unitedstates:
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427
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March 1956
What are we looking at in post 977? weird configuration on the spark plug locations........doesn't even look like the front one we see can posibly fire the front cylinder, and the back plug isn't even thru the valve cover as the other 3 are.
First gen 427 SOHC. Post #979 has the later plugs on the top of the heads, both are hemi heads. Probably changed just for accessibility.
C/G
3x2
The guy on the left side almost looks like Mickey Thompson?
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Conv racing
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2018-12-29 11:16
The guy on the left side almost looks like Mickey Thompson?
It does look like him but I don't think it is. He was messing around with Pontiacs back in the early 60's. He had some sawed off v-8 4 cyl creation I recall.
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convs
Gurney-Le-Mans-1964-Cobra
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:)
Best name ever in drag racing.......
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'62, 406, 4 speed. A great car.
ELROY NEWTON
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Jeremy Pearson.. nice guy,did work for him..... I believe he sold the car.....
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Life was better then.........
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3 wise men.
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When the regular Joe could race.....
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Rare.......
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I want one.
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Hotrod Donnie's old car.....
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Jeff, did Donnie sell his?
What's the '61 in post 1006? Canadian Ford? Don't think I've ever seen one before, but the pic sure looks factory rather than custom.
Yes Rich..Donnie sold a few years back. and yes.a Canadian Merc.1961 Merc Montcalm
Love that pic of the milk man. What's that white stuff?
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POLICE
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that is about the prettiest factory taillight since the Barris bros started their Custom taillights in the 1940s.
totally cool, as if it came from a 1950s sci fi movie.
I bet it could be adopted to a bulletbird or even a 57 Ford Kustom.
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2018-12-31 04:08
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Post 1008 Jeff when you place your order get two, I'll take one. That 58 is nice. Jviera
NASCAR
Pete Robinson is one of the top 3 (IMOH) who knew how to make a cammer run with the best of them.
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'58s
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Vertigo
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JUST MARRIED !!
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FREE
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NICE 55
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56s
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Pro Stock Maverick
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IN STOCK !!!
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58s
The brown and white 58 in front reminds me of the 58 my father bought new trading in his 57 on it.He bought the 58 off the showroom floor 2 weeks before the 59s came out. I never got a chance to drive his 57 but got my licence on his 58 in june of 1959. The 58 was a 332 4 barrel with auto/trans, wasn't much off the line but nothing caught it on top end as I proved several time late at night on the newly opened interstate 95 here in CT.
Smokey
Al Stephens of West Palm Beach at the 1952 Modified with his Plymouth-Powered Ford
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The one that got away.... I was a local friends party (car folks) and this Meteor Ranchero was there in the lot.... super clean and cheap...I should have bought it...I wonder where it is today..... about 6 years ago..... Super rare Canadian car..... I could be wrong.. but I heard under 1000 were built. This was a super clean 292/3 speed car.
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I like helping old Fords go fast... some pals in Georgia
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Local Ranchero that shows up to our car show we put on!
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NICE
The more I see of those Meteors, the more I like them. That bubbletop '60 is pretty cool too!
'55
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406
Wilbur Rakestraw leads Glen Wood - 1957 Convertible Race
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Does anyone on the Forum know if,Wilbur Rakestraw, pictured in post number 1049 above, was from Georgia?
PA 1963 Luckily, no one was seriously injured
Quote from: KYBlueOval on 2019-01-08 05:12
Does anyone on the Forum know if,Wilbur Rakestraw, pictured in post number 1049 above, was from Georgia?
Wilbur Rakestraw, June 6, 1928 ? May 7, 2014, was an American racing car driver. He was born in Dallas, Georgia into a family of racers. His career included racing in the SRE (Southeastern Racing Enterprises) organization as well as the 11 NASCAR Grand National and 30 Convertible races. Rakestraw was known for his toughness and thoughtfulness of other drivers due to one incident at Lakewood Speedway in 1957 when he drove through a fence and into the infield lake to avoid T-boning another driver who had crashed in front of him. After he retired from racing, Rakestraw went to work as a mechanic and later became a service manager for a local grading company
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Wilbur Rakestraw (left) is congratulated in victory lane at Atlanta's Lakewood Speedway in the late 1950s. Rakestraw, a 2008 inductee into the Georgia Racing Hall of Fame, passed away Wednesday, May 7, 2014 of congestive heart failureat the age of 85.
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-01-08 14:34
Wilbur Rakestraw, June 6, 1928 ? May 7, 2014, was an American racing car driver. He was born in Dallas, Georgia into a family of racers. His career included racing in the SRE (Southeastern Racing Enterprises) organization as well as the 11 NASCAR Grand National and 30 Convertible races. Rakestraw was known for his toughness and thoughtfulness of other drivers due to one incident at Lakewood Speedway in 1957 when he drove through a fence and into the infield lake to avoid T-boning another driver who had crashed in front of him. After he retired from racing, Rakestraw went to work as a mechanic and later became a service manager for a local grading company
Thanks Joe. The reason I asked is that when I was around 16 or 17 I used to hang out at a Gulf Station on Peachtree Rd, in Buckhead, in Atlanta, owned by the Rakestraw family. There never was a race car on the property, but I do recall many racing conversations among the employees, regarding Wilbur and his driving skills.
1937 FORD
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One mean Falcon
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429
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The image resolution on #1057 is amazing. Great photo.
Pittsburg, PA Aug 3, 1963
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-01-10 09:39
The image resolution on #1057 is amazing. Great photo.
That's the beauty of black & white....
Wendell Scott and his crew make adjustments in the pit area prior to the June 1966 NASCAR Grand National race at Smoky Mountain Raceway in Maryville, Tennessee.
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In picture 1061
Jeff...Thanks for the cool picture of the 1960 MSP cruiser. They still use those same paint colors
Joe... You are too young to remember those.
Rich... I'll bet that you remember those before you skipped town. That's probably what they were driving when you were cruising Adventure car hop and Richards drive in.
Hoboken, NJ. 1963
Maybe not Jay, but I do remember these...
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Four Two Seven
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427
Just love that pic!
#92
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#92...................Now that I'm sure is the Pikes Peak hillclimb!
406
My favorite movie...
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Yep, that was a great one. Anybody know what town they are coming up on? Just curious, looks like a cool place.
Wendell Scott.. what a great racer ..fighting an almost impossible prejudice...... That guy had guts.
Courier
Jeff, Wendell Scott was a true racer, against all and more odds than anyone trying to race during that time frame and has never received his due for what he did and who he was. John V
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-01-14 08:10
Yep, that was a great one. Anybody know what town they are coming up on? Just curious, looks like a cool place.
I will "literally" cut to the chase, or crash scene, if you will...
"......The chase picks up again on Market Street in Daly City headed eastbound past John F. Kennedy Elementary school at 785 Price Street and Guadalupe Canyon Parkway. It continues eastbound on Guadalupe Canyon Parkway through a road cut which looks remarkably the same in 2002. At various points during the eastbound portion San Francisco Bay is clearly visible (here is a section in 2002 showing San Francisco Bay in the background). The direction changes and the cars are shown heading westbound, passing through the same road cut they passed through headed east. In the scene where stunt driver Bud Ekins lays down a motorcycle, there are several radio towers visible on the hill in the background. Those towers are still there and this section looks very much as it did in the film. Shortly afterwards the chase ends when the Charger crashes in flames at a gas station at the corner of Guadalupe Canyon Parkway and North Hill Drive (in Brisbane, San Mateo County) which is now an office building."
You can view the entire route/chase here: http://www.rjsmith.com/bullitt-locations.html
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As usual, awesome info and pics, thanks Joe
55 Sunliner
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-01-14 19:03
As usual, awesome info and pics, thanks Joe
My pleasure Rich.
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Nice Sunliner
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Riverside Speedway
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WOW
Ford river rouge 1937
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Quote from: hemidave on 2019-01-16 12:46
WOW
Looks like AJ foyt ? Not sure he had anything to do with drag racing though.
Tuning
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Riverside Speedway Agawam, MA
. All I can say is you guys manage to come up with some real cool pictures of cars and the old days. It is so sad to see that the old days with drive in restaurants and hot rods are long gone. Thank you very much and keep the old pictures coming.
Jay, not all Fords, but some really cool pictures of an automated Drive-In-Los-Angeles-1950s
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The Track Drive In
What could go wrong? One of the most intriguing L.A. architectural novelties we've ever seen was this take on the drive-in. It's The Track, with "Motormat" technology, "Track" apparently a reference to racetrack, hence the striped service trolleys that were sent out to cars at 120 feet per minute, each unit named after a famous racehorse. A theme, however, was not enough in the face of Rube Goldberg technology. You just know the crazy trolley system must have hit snags constantly, with burgers and fries and chicken wings and cokes flying all over the hoods of Hudsons and DeSotos...and yet at one time there seems to have been as many as three outlets in the Los Angeles area, for however long they lasted. Here's a description of the operation from The American Drive-In, by Michael Karl Witzel:
"Debuted in 1949, a Los Angeles innovation promised total elimination of carhops. At a new drive-in called "The Track," it attracted customers from as far as Santa Monica with its unique type of service. Like a group of horses at a trough [there's a gracious image], cars ringed around a central building, forming a circular pattern. Twenty semicircular parking spaces bridged a center kitchen by means of metal tracks. Food and condiments rode the rails within carrying...compartment, each powered by a small horsepower motor. The mechanical setup was reminiscent of the wackiest Rube Goldberg device. Positioned in a pre-determined parking space, the diner rolled down the car window and was greeted by a stainless-steel bin that could be made flush with the door. Inside the box were plastic cups, a water bottle, menu, order pad, and change tray. It was large, too. Food for six people could be ferried back and forth on the elevated platforms. Patrons would jot down their orders and with the push of a button, the unit scooted a return to the kitchen.... When the empty bin arrived at the kitchen, an attendant put through the order and added up the bill. As hamburgers and other entries were prepared, the rail box made its second journey to the automobile to collect the money. By the time it returned to the preparation area, the food was ready to go and loaded into the compartment along with condiments and the customer's change. According to inventor Kenneth C. Purdy, the spoke-and-wheel-track arrangement sped service 20-25 percent."
Well, needless to say, we wanted to know where this madcap drive-in was. There was a 1951 phone-book listing for a "The Track No 3" at 3816 Sepulveda Boulevard in Culver City, now the site of a Carl Jr's, but current visual cues there don't jive with the vintage shots seen here. So we squinted at the pics, especially the one at top, and decided that the sign on the Herman-Something real estate office must have said "Herman Shrager" who, it turns out, dealt in cemetery real estate, as in plots. Anyway, after more digging we found that Herman had an office at 8152 Beverly Boulevard...and eureka! It all fell into place. Across from Herman's one-time haunt, at the northwest corner of Beverly and Kilkea Drive, the distinctive Welch's Candy building still stands...and so across Kilkea from Welch's would have been The Track, at 8123 Beverly. The mini-chain's other locations may have survived longer, but with maintenance obviously a nightmare and profits hindered with what was clearly too much real estate given over to servicing too few cars, it was all over in a few years. Advertisements for an auction of the pieces of The Track appeared in the Times in February 1952.
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The view from the kitchen, above. Below:
Assuming that the contraption made it out to his car,
the driver received his order in this box.
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As seen in the Los Angeles Times on February 17, 1952
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Great pics CobraJoe ^^^
^^Thanks.
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"Black Magic" at Lebanon Valley Dragway
Fonty Flock's 1939 Al Dykes's Ford lies in palmetto bushes after tumbling off the course during the Rayson Memorial race in 1948
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WILD CHILD
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-01-19 17:12
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?? I wonder what's going on there.
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Quote from: Tom S on 2019-01-19 17:23
?? I wonder what's going on there.
Engineers assembling a prototype at Ford in 1954
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-01-19 18:46
Engineers assembling a prototype at Ford in 1954
I don't think I've ever seen a pic of anything that looked quite like that jig they're using around that body. It would be interesting to know how that jig worked or it's purpose since my guesses are probably wrong.
The only '61 Ford I've seen here in many decades popped up here a couple years ago. 1st year for the 390. Has an odd special Alaska license plate on this very clean lookin' car. It had a for sale sign. If it had been a black car I'd have been very even more temped. (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/uhoh.gif)
I thought this underslung T was pretty neat.
Description:
http://vi.vipr.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=152130719808&t=1433538260000&tid=10&category=6235&seller=finkster56&excSoj=1&excTrk=1&lsite=100&ittenable=false&domain=ebay.com&descgauge=1&cspheader=1&oneClk=1&secureDesc=0
Original ebay ad with more pix:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1929-Ford-Model-T-Roadster-/152130719808?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l10137
'56
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Love those boats ^^^
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Quote from: Tom S on 2019-01-19 17:23
?? I wonder what's going on there.
They appear to be assembling prototype sheet metal to verify fit and look for design interferences. I worked on this type assembly verification at the Assembly Division general office in Dearborn from 1979 to 1981. When we found at bad fit up, then the battle started with Body Engineering to get corrections made.
Fresno
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312, 3x2, hot cammed motor in the '50 Ford in Thunder Road
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WOW ^^^
My 1974 Bronco I bought new. I off-road raced in the stock division 75-76. I still own it. Last pic is 41 years after the first two.
Soooo, if I'm posting pictures in an "Old Ford pics" thread, and I'm in the car, what's that saying?....don't answer.
SURE AM ENJOYING ALL THESE PICS!!
^^Nice!
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'57 Sunliner getting some air
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Y BLOCK POWER
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'57 Sunliner and a Y block powered dragster
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At the drags
Looks like Shirley Muldowney.
There's a Ford in there somewhere.... :003:
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It is Shirley and the track is New England Dragway. The 57 belongs to Joe Cushman from Maine he was the NHRA,AHRA record holder with different combinations of bodys, 2dr. 4 drs. and I think a wagon. His cars were so quick that NHRA outlawed the 57 Fords with the blowers even tho they were a factory option, to many GM were going to get beat, but it was great to see him race. Jviera
There is a great pic. of Cushman's 57 blown-on-bye the 2dr car in Y-Block Mag. issue #127 if someone has it maybe they will post it, I still haven't figured out the picture post thing yet. JViera
F code many years ago
Sure is, Joe ! The one to the left, that is showing its belly is a 1993 or 1934 Ford, showing a first of Fords new frame X members and the 'bent-around-the-differential' rear crossmember. Flathead V8 is still in car. I want to go back in time....
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-01-25 14:32
There's a Ford in there somewhere.... :003:
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-01-26 02:57
Sure is, Joe ! The one to the left, that is showing its belly is a 1993 or 1934 Ford, showing a first of Fords new frame X members and the 'bent-around-the-differential' rear crossmember. Flathead V8 is still in car. I want to go back in time....
There is definitely more than one, and I see the one you are talking about, but Im struggling to find the '93? :002:
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What are we looking at with that flex pipe coming around and down the front, ram air injection?
Quote from: fdlrc on 2019-01-26 10:43
What are we looking at with that flex pipe coming around and down the front, ram air injection?
Those flex pipes are connecting the water inlets on the heads to the water pumps or a water tank. No radiator but it still needs coolant in the block.
Rancheros
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UNREAL
Great photo! Nothing like a heavily modded 57 to do a little pheasant hunting.
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it is clearly visible that this is not a staged pic. It makes total sense to discuss a single Stromberg against a GMC blower, as long as you removed the radiator and have 2 guys grease the front transverse leaf spring.... :003: with a bunch of hudlums holding down the body so the wind doesn't blow it away.... :002: :003:
loving those goofy 50s pics.
that's a wicked 34 Coupe across the street! filled in quarter windows on a 5wd, moon discs and what appears could have been either a Hemi or Nailhead in the engine bay.
'54
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Thunder Road
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Ford Motor Company first car 1955
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July.......first car?? What's that all about, by July they should be almost done with the model year run. Was that the year of the steel strike? but I'm thinking the strike was 1956 or 7 because my dad was anxiously awaiting his new Dodge that was months late because of the strike.
Production usually ends around the middle of June so a new model July build makes sense. New models hit the showroom in September.
Mahwah had 4 assembly lines, each line was converted to the new model at different dates, this would be the first line to run the 55. Depending on demand for the outgoing model the last line would be changed over to 55 production between August 15 and August 27.
FYI...In most cases any car assembled before September 9 would still have the data plate build code of September 9.
But wouldn't the '55 model have hit the showrooms in Sept of '54.
'57 Sunliner
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Another good Frank Deiny #15^^^^^^
Ron Hornaday
Damn I'm getting slow, Marwar opened in 1955 that's why it's the first car on July 15.
OLYMPICS
not necessarily an 'old' pic :002:
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necessarily an 'old' pic :002:
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Dirt track picture reminded me of my high school dirt track race car. Raced at Gold Spike Speedway in Minnesota. It is a 63 Galaxie. Junk yard some 15-20 years later.
^^^ I looked quick and thought you were shouldering a rifle, lol.
You made me double look also. That's funny, no more than white pants
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TURBO BOOSTER AXLE
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:unitedstates:
Phil Bonner's thunder bolt
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It took me four times looking at #1175 to notice the guy in the car.
SKI AREA
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Love both those last two pics. The ski photo sure brings us back in time. Nowadays you first HAVE TO spend many many hundreds on ski gear and apparel just to get started. Heck, they probably spend more on goggles now than the folks in the pic did for their skis.
The Bonneville pic is sooooo artistic. I could imagine it blown up to 6-8 ft or more and covering a wall. Another example of lifestyle simplicity also. Very relaxing to look at.
This one's pretty relaxing to look at also. :003:
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Yep, I can do without a resurgence of the boots fad, but Mini skirts never should have left in the first place.
Top down rides !
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-02-02 06:10
The Bonneville pic is sooooo artistic.
I've always loved anything to do with Bonneville racing stuff.
Near the end of a day at Bonneville in 1979 I took this pic of Ermie Immerso's beautiful streamliner, the Thunderbird. It was turbine powered in this pic.
In 1962 it was powered by four Ford 406 engines followed in 1963 by four 427s & topped 300 mph.
The way the sun's rays streamed thru the clouds was something I hadn't really noticed until after I got the pix developed. I think that made it a pretty neat pic.
This was the last time I saw this car. I later learned that this beautiful veteran streamliner had crashed at this meet & had been nearly totally destroyed. :(
Great shots, went there in 92, couldn't believe it. Are the b/w shots taken at a different time than your great color pic?
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Quote from: fdlrc on 2019-02-02 18:23Are the b/w shots taken at a different time than your great color pic?
Yes, those are old pix that I found on the net. Note the Ford FE engines.
This car has had many different engines & combinations of engines. The last was the turbine power.
I went to Bonneville in 1979 & 1981. Met & talked with several of the famous racers that I'd read about for decades. Made friends with & helped a couple two man teams work on their cars. One car was a beautiful belly tank Lakester that was jewel like. They made the Two Club! I was in hog heaven. I have over 100 slide pix.
1968 Winter nationals super stock eliminator winner! Also from last year at the Knotts Ford show.
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Janet, Tony, and Jamie Lee
Great pic.......Haven't thought of Tony Curtiss in years. His daughter sure turned out great.
Nowadays we get the Kardashians crammed down our throat,
:iamwithstupid:
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-02-03 10:25
Nowadays we get the Kardashians crammed down our throat,
That will never happen at my house :003:
DITTO!
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-02-03 11:41
That will never happen at my house :003:
"I'm with stupid"? hey, i mite be slo but I'm not stupud. :005:
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-02-03 12:54
"I'm with stupid"? hey, i mite be slo but I'm not stupud. :005:
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How about:
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Found these from Victoria, British Columbia. I like the Mercury Mike graphics.
T/F
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-02-03 10:25
Nowadays we get the Kardashians crammed down our throat,
Who dat? :102:
:002:
More Bonneville LSR racing stuff.
I've always much admired Art and Lloyd Chrisman's coupe with it's two '40 Ford hoods welded together for it's nose. I copied that nose on an AMT 1/25 scale model of a '40 sedan when I was a kid.
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#1202
Tom if are you saying that coup has two 40 Ford hoods welded together to make that nose, then all I can say is WOW! That took some thinking. I suppose that was the days when most junkyards had 40 Fords in them.
Jay
The 63 Fairlane could be a rest mule for the 64 Thunderbolt?
Nice
This Fairlane is a 1962 and it now belongs to a friend of mine. It is in excellent condition with its 406 engine and three deuces. It is a Pre-Pre Thunderbolt!!
Quote from: BP57CUSTOM on 2019-02-04 13:30
This Fairlane is a 1962 and it now belongs to a friend of mine. It is in excellent condition with its 406 engine and three deuces. It is a Pre-Pre Thunderbolt!!
Tasca Ford campaigned a new midsize Fairlane, Challenger II, in 1962, powered by a 406 engine that was not available in the car. The biggest engine Fairlane came with was the new 221-inch small-block, forcing Tasca to run in A/Factory Experimental.
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-02-04 15:11
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This one looks like a Thunderbolt, but it's actually a 64 Sports Coup (hardtop). Back in the day, I owned one that was a real "K Code" 271 HP car. It was painted in two tone, Springtime Yellow, and White. Had a White bucket seat interior with the factory console. Before I bought the "three year old" car, it already had the four speed transmission removed, and replaced with a C-4 automatic. It was a nice conversion, but they left the clutch pedal on the floor. It was a nice fun car. It was originally sold to a doctor new in Wickenberg, Arizona. Wished I had it back today.
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-02-03 18:47
More Bonneville LSR racing stuff.
I've always much admired Art and Lloyd Chrisman's coupe with it's two '40 Ford hoods welded together for it's nose. I copied that nose on an AMT 1/25 scale model of a '40 sedan when I was a kid.
I have seen this car in person after it was restored by the Chrisman's garage. It was owned at the time by the late Joe Mc Pherson, a local new car dealer, and BIG TIME hot rod enthusiast/collector.
This is a all time icon Hot Rod. It was very cool to see. They did a true museum restoration on it. Fortunately Art Chrisman was still alive at the time. Both Art, and Joe are gone now, but their efforts to save some history remain..
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2019-02-04 09:36
#1202
Tom if are you saying that coup has two 40 Ford hoods welded together to make that nose, then all I can say is WOW! That took some thinking. I suppose that was the days when most junkyards had 40 Fords in them.
Jay
Yup, I always knew that the nose was two '40 hoods. Decided that that would make a good streamlined nose.
The story goes something like when Art or Lloyd was going thru a junkyard & by chance moved a '40 hood out of the way & set it on top of another one that was upside down on the ground.
Every time I've searched over the years for more info on this iconic car I find more info. Now I know why I thought for a long time that this was a chopped '34 five window instead of an A coupe.
Photo caption:
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(left) And Lloyd Chrisman Surveying Their Rough Bodywork Outside Chrisman's Garage In Compton, California, In Early 1953. The Low, Sleek Stance Was Created By Grafting A Chopped '35 Ford Cowl And A Pillars Onto The Severely Chopped '30 Coupe Body."
The engine swap pic; the engine, trans & rear end came out from under the car as one unit by removing "about a dozen' bolts. These guys really had their stuff together.
Quote from: John Palmer on 2019-02-04 17:17
I have seen this car in person after it was restored by the Chrisman's garage. It was owned at the time by the late Joe Mc Pherson, a local new car dealer, and BIG TIME hot rod enthusiast/collector.
This is a all time icon Hot Rod. It was very cool to see. They did a true museum restoration on it. Fortunately Art Chrisman was still alive at the time. Both Art, and Joe are gone now, but their efforts to save some history remain.
You lucky dog! I'd have loved to see the car in person or better yet running at Bonneville. But I live in Alaska & was only 9 years old when they ran it for the last time there in 1954.
I'm sure glad it was restored to it's original condition after George Barris turned it into this TV show & show car abomination. I read that he gave it gull wing doors. I'm guessing that '37 oval tube front axle got chromed when Barris had it.
Art & Lloyd Chrisman were real Ford guys. Art also had a '57 Ranchero. It was painted the 'right' color too! :)
One more. Tight quarters for the driver.
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Joe Weatherly
Clint Eastwood's first car.
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The Mustang was Fords flagship car by 65 so they couldn't have made very many 65 T-bolts.
Just some facts on the Tasca cars, back in post 1103the 62 is being driven by John Healey at Conn. Dragway it belong to a good friend of his. In post 1203 that 62 Fairlane was the brainchild of Andy Hotten from Dearborn Steel tubing,it became known as Challenger I and II . the name came from the 221 and 260 engines. Post 1203 was at Conn. also, in post 1208 it was at Charlestown Dragway in R.I. a number of guys drove that car as it was being tested including Gordon Carlson who was a buyer of Tasca cars. The 63 Fairlane was a joint project between DST, Ford, and Tasca not a k code hp although the first 11, 64 t-bolts were k codes, the engines pulled by DST and shipped to Shelby. That 63 was driven by Ford employee Bill Humphries at the 63 Nationals and now carried a new name Zimmy-1 in honor of Frank Zimmerman of Ford's Special Vehicles Dept. That name would be on all of Tasca's race cars from then on,also the number 777 representing the Dealership address . The 64 t-bolt still lives it is the real one restored by Randy Delisio it is owned by Steve Ames of Pontiac fame, in post 1210 it's Indy. I hope this wasn't boring sorry if it was to long. J Viera
Not at all John; nice to hear the backstory on a local legend. Perhaps you might want to explain the "Mystery #" cars to those who may not be familiar with them.
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A thing of beauty
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-02-06 05:09
Not at all John; nice to hear the backstory on a local legend. Perhaps you might want to explain the "Mystery #" cars to those who may not be familiar with them.
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I like the "Suivre Moi" on the rear. Translates to "follow me". Someone on the team spoke French.
The Mystery name came from when the cars were being built at Holman Moody one of the workers said," if these cars go straight it will be a mystery to me" the number is the seconds the car was running as changes were made. Suivez Moi was first on the back of Zimmy II Mr. Tasca said " we finish second to no one".
A great hard cover book written by Bob McClurg about the The Tasca Ford Legacy is available it is a great read on Ford racing.Jviera
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Local car.. down Windsor way... been around since the early 60's.....A member of a CC called the Street Kleaners..... Kinda like......"Take no Prisoners".
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Hotroddonnie's car.....
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57 Ford, B/gas, SOHC, Injected, Straight Axle, Can't get much better than that! JViera
John, I have to agree. I am a sucker for gassers; especially old Fords. :003:
I had planned on a building a '57 gasser before I finally pulled the trigger on my Fairlane. The only thing that stopped me was the new inspection in Massachusetts.
This has me written all over it...
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OHIO
This is Al Dixon's 58 Chero.... He is the brother of the Gasser I posted in #1233/#1234.... Both cars have been restored and were terrors back in the early 60's.
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Am I the only one that has never seen a cop car with rag top??
Haha.....I was gonna post something like........no way.......Had to either be a put-on or a really really small town that used what they had except it says "highway patrol", not sheriff. Even the signage/logo on the door looks bogas. Maybe kids making a movie?
Maybe he'll have "the rest of the story". (I saw the Paul Harvey Dealer's name on one of the cars.........reminded me of THE Paul Harvey, sure miss him)
Quote from: fdlrc on 2019-02-07 17:40
Am I the only one that has never seen a cop car with rag top??
Don't seem to make much sense does it.
Had to take a look & searched for
Ohio highway patrol cars in 1957. I guess that logo on the door is for real.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=ohio+highway+patrol+cars+in+1957
That led to this: https://macsmotorcitygarage.com/cars-of-the-ohio-state-highway-patrol/
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From the 1930s through the 1950s, the Highway Patrol fleet often included a few convertibles, like this 1957 Ford Fairlane Sunliner. We're guessing the ragtops were tabbed mainly for public relations and parade duty."
It also seems odd to me that they used some 2 door cars instead of 4 doors.
I just figured it out; after a drunk throws up in the back your squad car, what better way to air it out?? Just saying.
The Dixon's garage must have been an interesting place, I wouldn't mine living next door. JViera
High school auto shop class
Quote from: jviera on 2019-02-07 20:58
The Dixon's garage must have been an interesting place, I wouldn't mine living next door. JViera
So would I John....
Original paperwork
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-02-08 15:22[img]
Hey! Sorry, but that's not a Ford!
After searching around I'm thinking that's about a 1927-1928 Essex with it's suicide doors & wood spoke wheels.
Here's a 4 door '28 Essex.
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Quote from: Tom S on 2019-02-08 19:49
Hey! Sorry, but that's not a Ford!
After searching around I'm thinking that's about a 1927-1928 Essex with it's suicide doors & wood spoke wheels.
Here's a 4 door '28 Essex.
https://ccmarketplace.azureedge.net/cc-temp/listing/100/9083/9097912-1928-essex-super-six-vintage-4-door-std.jpg
Thanks Tom, I had my doubts. I asked a few guys and they weren't sure either.
I beg for Mercy!I should stick to stuff that I know for sure....
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Quote from: hemidave on 2019-02-07 22:42
High school auto shop class
Ah yes...from back when kids were actually taught something they could use when they got out of high school...instead of fast tracking them all on to 4 years of college and then a degree they never use.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-02-08 20:34...I beg for Mercy![/b....
Ha! With all the great Ford pix you've given us how could it be any other way!
Here's a thought; if you delete that post/pic I'll delete my reply to it.
What ya think?
Extra wide dual engine tractor
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-02-08 21:43
Ha! With all the great Ford pix you've given us how could it be any other way!
Here's a thought; if you delete that post/pic I'll delete my reply to it.
What ya think?
Appreciate it, but I'm not a Democrat, I'll own up to my mistake. :002:
I asked one guy who thought that was Henry Ford himself, behind the wheel. :003:
...and shame on me for not catching the suicide doors, never even noticed it.
Anyways, back on track
I'm a little confused on this one though; I'm pretty sure this is a 1960 Ford Starliner. The 400 cu. in. on the hood is what I don't get. Ford offered a 332 or 352 in 1960, correct?
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MEL?
Joe you are correct, 352 was the factory FE in 1960 but these cars weren't required to run factory engines. This class of Sportsman cars ran into the mid 60's and even the 57-58 Fords ran larger FE engines. If I remember correctly the limit was 400 cu in. The top dollar teams used destroked 427's which I thought were around 397 cu in.
427 with a 352 crank...397
Thanks guys!
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Quote from: lalessi1 on 2019-02-09 09:34
427 with a 352 crank...397
Thats exactly what they were. The short stroke really allowed the engines to rev quickly and pull really strong off the corners on small 1/4 to 1/2 mile tracks were these cars ran most of the time.
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-02-08 21:43
Ha! With all the great Ford pix you've given us how could it be any other way!
Here's a thought; if you delete that post/pic I'll delete my reply to it.
What ya think?
Tom
Joe is a pretty good guy. He likes his Fords and we get to hang out in the summer at the Friday night cruises.. Why don't we just let him slide this one time? He is entitled to just that one slight mistake. Well actually I did see him taking a picture of a 57 Chxxy one time. He did say that it was for a friend. Jay
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2019-02-09 10:49
Tom
Joe is a pretty good guy. He likes his Fords and we get to hang out in the summer at the Friday night cruises.. Why don't we just let him slide this one time? He is entitled to just that one slight mistake. Well actually I did see him taking a picture 57 Chxxy one time. He did say that it was for a friend. Jay
:snoopy2:
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"Well actually I did see him taking a picture 57 Chxxy one time. He did say that it was for a friend. Jay"
My friend, who I am always giving a hard time to about Chevy stuff in everything, asked me why the heck I had pics of a '57 Nomad on my iphone. lol. They were for my ex brother-in-law who has always wanted another one.
Rich
Both you and Joe are going to have your cell phones disinfected or replaced.
Jay
You guys are really going to hate me now, this is what I have been working nights and weekends. Once again, I beg for forgiveness. :confused1:
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...and now back to our regularly scheduled program;
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OMG! I hope you recover from the insanity soon! :o
Quote from: lalessi1 on 2019-02-10 08:17
OMG! I hope you recover from the insanity soon! :o
He is a good friend whom I've known for over 45 years (
he is actually a Ford truck guy) and has helped me with many of my Ford projects over the years, so I don't mind helping out when I can. It actually helps the winter pass by quicker.
He's a few years older than me and he actually purchased the car from the original owner when he was 15 years old. I remember going for a ride in it when I was just 14, lol. He drove it as his daily driver up until about 40 years ago and then just parked it. He garaged for some time, then it sat outside for some years after the garage he had it in got sold. Several years later, he built a garage at his home and he decided he wanted to restore it and drive it again. :thumbsup:
Every time I see one of these 57's it reminds me of a beautiful black 57 at our local car show and it's powered by a 427 Ford :001: So there is a chance you could redeem yourself :003:
Hang on !
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-02-10 09:20
Every time I see one of these 57's it reminds me of a beautiful black 57 at our local car show and it's powered by a 427 Ford :001: So there is a chance you could redeem yourself :003:
There was an article in Street Rodder mag about a year ago of a guy who bought a '56 Chev and turned it into a convertible...with a 427 side-oiler in it. Was his way of sticking it back in the faces of those guys who thought putting bow-ties into Blue Ovals was a good idea.
Stylists clay for the 1939 Ford. Photo taken for Chief Ford stylist E.T. Gregorie in February, 1938.
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Joe
Are you telling me that you actually have that thing in your garage? You are still a good guy for helping your old friend like that. We'll just call that a temporary winter illness that you have.
Hopefully you will be all better in the spring time. Jay
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-02-10 13:33
There was an article in Street Rodder mag about a year ago of a guy who bought a '56 Chev and turned it into a convertible...with a 427 side-oiler in it. Was his way of sticking it back in the faces of those guys who thought putting bow-ties into Blue Ovals was a good idea.
mustang6984
I would have to consider that guy a real hero for fixing up that thing correctly. I like the way his mind works. HAHA
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2019-02-10 16:47
Joe
Are you telling me that you actually have that thing in your garage? You are still a good guy for helping your old friend like that. We'll just call that a temporary winter illness that you have.
Hopefully you will be all better in the spring time. Jay
No Jay, that is not at my shop, but at his garage. I'm too cheap to run the heat in my shop to work on my '57, lol.
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2019-02-10 16:52
mustang6984
I would have to consider that guy a real hero for fixing up that thing correctly. I like the way his mind works. HAHA
I'd like to do it to a Camaro...just to be...well...annoying. I have this 351W motor available... :stooges:
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-02-10 17:28
I'd like to do it to a Camaro...just to be...well...annoying. I have this 351W motor available... :stooges:
That would wake up the stupid Kamero.
Then it would be reliable and last for years and years to come. And don't forget to keep the hood off of it so the pretty engine can be seen.
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I love the old B&W
Poor old Fords :005:
When things were so much easier.
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wedding bellum ride
At the races
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#1280 top picture. It looks like the guy servicing the wheel has his legs under the car while it is jacked up. Most likely they are using a bumper jack. It's hard to imagine a time when people could actually sit on the roadway like that without the fear of getting run over. That stuff can't be done today, not even on a back road.
A legend
Hugh......PM sent.
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Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-02-12 12:56
Hugh......PM sent.
Got it...I'll reply later today...on the way out the door. Thankx!
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2019-02-12 09:31
#1280 top picture. It looks like the guy servicing the wheel has his legs under the car while it is jacked up. Most likely they are using a bumper jack. It's hard to imagine a time when people could actually sit on the roadway like that without the fear of getting run over. That stuff can't be done today, not even on a back road.
That is a Louisiana tag! Judging from the road that must be in our mountains if the pic is in state!
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57 Sunliner
Dave, maybe I asked before, but what part of Mass. are you in.
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Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-02-13 12:25
Dave, maybe I asked before, but what part of Mass. are you in.
Rich, I'm in western MA Northampton.....and you Rich ?
This guys first car in high school.
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Quote from: hemidave on 2019-02-13 22:25
Rich, I'm in western MA Northampton.....and you Rich ?
I had seen your Mass location on your Hamb postings. I was born in Waltham, but consider Acton my home town. Escaped in '68 to California, never looked back. Moved to Colorado in early 80's, and then ran out of gas in Texas in 03
Taxi
gross !
Interesting that they're (cabs) two-doors.
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Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-02-14 06:01
I had seen your Mass location on your Hamb postings. I was born in Waltham, but consider Acton my home town. Escaped in '68 to California, never looked back. Moved to Colorado in early 80's, and then ran out of gas in Texas in 03
Hemi Dave .... Notice that Rich stated that he escaped in 68? Those are his words.. He did the right thing to get away from our nasty cold and streets that are loaded with salt in the winter.
I'm in the Plymouth area of Mass. just incase you are heading to the cape sometime. Jay
Rich ....Don't worry. If you come back to visit your family. We'll just give you a new name and identity.
I worked in MA outside on construction for 32 years, and got to hate the winters also. Luckily, we have been spending our retirement year winters in FL .
#1308 Sure is one cool looking car. Canadian Meteor?
In those days it looked like people liked to put garbage on the roofs and go for a drive.
These days we don't hardly ever see roof racks.
probably because 90% of the world has a pickup or suv in their driveway. I figured that pic you were talking about may have been some of my relatives heading south at a border check station. Another sign of how things were in years gone by......"where were you born?" if you answered with an American accent, it was just "have a good trip". and nobody bitched about the profiling back then. Not too long ago, I passed an immigration checkpoint near the White Sands National Monument in NM. Same thing there. American accent, just buzz on thru.
Really cool. I looked at buying a meteor convert in Seattle a while ago. Just a little to rough for me. If you look, based on the driver's side grill on the car two back it is a Meteor as well.
a little off topic, it appears to be a Canadian built Pontiac second row.
Jay, these look like camping gear on their roof racks. probably on vacation. back then they had those roof tents that would completely fold open on top of car with wooden floorboards and you would have to climb up a ladder to get inside for some sleep.
Günter I have heard of those roof rigs, but never actually saw one. I'm assuming that picture was taken in Canada. If someone was restoring a Meteor, he had better hope that has all of those very rare trim pieces.
good morning Jay. it appears as if only 'half' of the pic was shot in Canada :002: sure looks like border control.
A friend of mine had such a fold out tent on top of his vintage VW van. it was a nice period accessory ( from 1963 I think) and it could be unfolded in a minute or less.
on a side note ! Can any of our Canadian member please bring some light into why Ford rebadged their cars for the Canadian market as Meteors, even the F100 trucks as Mercury aso? Was that some legal issue ? something internal of the FoMoCo divisions ? Tax or Commonwealth related reasons ?
In Europe the German Fords were badged with their own model names but neither the Ford name nor the blue oval would show up on the cars until 1964. Still American, British or French Fords were at the same time available under the FORD name over here.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-02-16 04:47
on a side note ! Can any of our Canadian member please bring some light into why Ford rebadged their cars for the Canadian market as Meteors, even the F100 trucks as Mercury aso? Was that some legal issue ? something internal of the FoMoCo divisions ? Tax or Commonwealth related reasons ?
In Europe the German Fords were badged with their own model names but neither the Ford name nor the blue oval would show up on the cars until 1964. Still American, British or French Fords were at the same time available under the FORD name over here.
"Meteor was first used by Ford of Canada as the brand name for a distinct line of models introduced in 1949. The standalone Meteor brand name used then-contemporary Ford models, trimmed specifically for the Canadian market with unique grilles, taillights and other trim to marginally differentiate them from the Ford vehicles. This was done to give Canadian Lincoln-Mercury dealerships a product to sell in the low-price field, similar to Ford of Canada dealerships offering the Monarch line of lower-price vehicles which were actually another variation of Ford models with unique trim and model names. This was typical practice in the Canadian market (compared to that of the United States), where smaller towns might have only a Ford dealer or a Lincoln-Mercury dealer, but often not both. The introduction of Meteor also gave Lincoln-Mercury a direct competitor to the GM Pontiac brand in Canada."
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-02-16 03:34
a little off topic, it appears to be a Canadian built Pontiac second row.
Jay, these look like camping gear on their roof racks. probably on vacation. back then they had those roof tents that would completely fold open on top of car with wooden floorboards and you would have to climb up a ladder to get inside for some sleep.
Like this Anglia?
NYC
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-02-16 07:17
"Meteor was first used by Ford of Canada as the brand name for a distinct line of models introduced in 1949. The standalone Meteor brand name used then-contemporary Ford models, trimmed specifically for the Canadian market with unique grilles, taillights and other trim to marginally differentiate them from the Ford vehicles. This was done to give Canadian Lincoln-Mercury dealerships a product to sell in the low-price field, similar to Ford of Canada dealerships offering the Monarch line of lower-price vehicles which were actually another variation of Ford models with unique trim and model names. This was typical practice in the Canadian market (compared to that of the United States), where smaller towns might have only a Ford dealer or a Lincoln-Mercury dealer, but often not both. The introduction of Meteor also gave Lincoln-Mercury a direct competitor to the GM Pontiac brand in Canada."
And to add, us Canadians still had regular Fords available, the Meteor and Mercury trucks were built to give our Mercury dealers a slightly fancier, slightly more expensive model compared to the equivalent Ford models. I guess for our larger geographical size, and much smaller population, the market for real Mercurys was fairly low. Both the Meteors and Canadian Fords were built at the Oakville Ontario Ford plants, other than some lower volume models, like the Skyliner retractable, which was never offered as a Meteor. The Ford trucks covered pretty much the entire Ford spectrum, 1/2, 3/4, and 1 ton trucks, all the way up to tandem axle heavy duty trucks, big rig highway tractors, as well as P series parcel vans and Econoline PUs and vans.
thanx guys, great insight !!! so it was based on market decisions.
I have owned 2 Ford of Canada cars before. my 57 Sedan Delivery looked like a US model except for the VIN Tag and rear door handle. I don't know if they were produced in Canada that way or somebody along the way changed some items to US specs (it was registered and running in California).
my 62 Mercury Comet was also built in Canada with Euro export specs ( kmh speedo), but it looked exactly like a US model (except for the speedo and odometer of course). it had a Ford of Canada code tag.
Hey Ricky your so fine, your so fine, you blow my mind, hey Ricky!
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Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-02-16 19:05
Hey Ricky your so fine, your so fine, you blow my mind, hey Ricky!
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Just think...today that set-up would be upper middle class...then he was rich!
Lucille Ball, Desi Arnaz and their looong, looooooooong trailer.....hahaha. the cooking scene with her in the trailer while on the road, with all the flour and stuff flying around is just hilarious !
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'57
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Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-02-16 19:17
Just think...today that set-up would be upper middle class...then he was rich!
Here's some more trivia for the Long, Long Trailer, movie.
They used both Mercury's and Lincoln's during the filming. They were both painted the same, but if you look closely the trims are different.
Check out the accessory Slimp Wheel (dolly) they used to carry the tongue weight of the trailer when it's being pulled by the bumper hitch on the car.
The movie was filmed in Modesto, CA. residential scenes. The mountain scenes were done in Lone Pine, CA. just off highway 395. The road was on the way to the start of the trail up to MT. Whitney. All of the old cowboy western movies were shot at the base of this same mountain in Lone Pine. The turn in the road is still there, just like in the movie, and it's a really steep, switch back, very scary even today.
This movie is a timeless classic. Anybody that has had there wife "help them" with directions to back up a trailer can appreciate the humor of the writer's.
Life in the 50s and 60s
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-02-18 22:50
Life in the 50s and 60s
Having been around to live during the 50's & 60's...I think they were better days than today. The cars were certainly better looking! Especially our 57 Fords! (yea...I'm prejudiced about the cars!) :002:
Used hot rods
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-02-19 14:50
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Seems funny to think of those as "old" Fords...but they are now. HOW did I get old enough to still think lf them as not old? HHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm...
Some things never change, SoCal traffic :003:
Except the skyline has changed...and the cars are uglier now. And I can still see a little bit of asphalt yet in that pic...not much..but some. LOL!!!
...a little older
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October 1963
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-02-20 09:27
October 1963
DANG! Nice fish! Car is sweet too! :hello2:
Looks like he means it.....
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those are supercool pics !
Grampa in coveralls can be proud of his trout. I would !
this is me and the 'Red Hot' Courier, 19 yrs ago. OMG this is already an OLD FORD PIC ! :003:
pic was either taken in Munich or Ingolstadt in Southern Germany. can't remember what I am doing on this side of the engine compartment, Probably it's only bragging about the cool Champion fender mat, as I can't recall ever having a break down with the SD.
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-02-20 17:00
this is me and the 'Red Hot' Courier, 19 yrs ago. OMG this is already an OLD FORD PIC ! :003:
pic was either taken in Munich or Ingolstadt in Southern Germany. can't remember what I am doing on this side of the engine compartment, Probably it's only bragging about the cool Champion fender mat, as I can't recall ever having a break down with the SD.
You do know that Champion is most closely associated with Bow-Tie products...right? At least here in the states. :nono:
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Weather must have been nicer back in the day... A foot of snow here today.
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NY Favourite Police car....
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You could buy a Flathead from sears at one time.... now you can a lawn mower......same thing.... hahahaha.... actually Sears is OUT OF BUSINESS up here......
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Hell, you can't buy a lawnmower for 59 bucks. They just announced the closing of the Sears store in Amarillo. Those prices are shocking, even considering the timeframe. Any idea what year that ad was?
I would assume after the war Rich.... 46-48..... since the listings go all the way to 1941 in years..... Yes. pretty sad about Sears...
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-02-20 18:09
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-02-20 17:00
this is me and the 'Red Hot' Courier, 19 yrs ago. OMG this is already an OLD FORD PIC ! :003:
You do know that Champion is most closely associated with Bow-Tie products...right? At least here in the states. :nono:
57 Fords came with Champion plugs, GM cars used AC ..
Cold '57
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2019-02-21 08:09
I would assume after the war Rich.... 46-48..... since the listings go all the way to 1941 in years..... Yes. pretty sad about Sears...
I remember pricing them in the early to mid 60's at $120-$125. I bought a '49 with a rebuilt motor for $90. That was in Sept 65.
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-02-21 08:23
57 Fords came with Champion plugs, GM cars used AC ..
When I started messing with cars in 69...Autolite was the Fords plug from the factory, and Champions and AC's were the ones I saw in the other 3 brands. (GM, Chrysler and American Motors.) I still run the FoMoCo plugs and sometimes Autolites as well.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-02-21 10:37
When I started messing with cars in 69...Autolite was the Fords plug from the factory, and Champions and AC's were the ones I saw in the other 3 brands. (GM, Chrysler and American Motors.) I still run the FoMoCo plugs and sometimes Autolites as well.
Yes, Ford bought Autolite in 1961 and used them in the later years but all the early Fords before that used Champions. Standard plug for 57 was Champion 870.
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-02-21 10:42
Yes, Ford bought Autolite in 1961 and used them in the later years but all the early Fords before that used Champions. Standard plug for 57 was Champion 870.
Well there ya' go! In '57 I was only 4...although I hear I was a terror on my trike, I hadn't started in on cars yet! LOL!!!
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-02-21 10:52
Well there ya' go! In '57 I was only 4...although I hear I was a terror on my trike, I hadn't started in on cars yet! LOL!!!
In 57 I was 10, so I guess I got a head start :003:
In 1957 I was -3...and I only run Autolites :iamwithstupid:
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thx for getting this straight Jim.
I have nothing but good to say about Champion. I run them in ALL of my Fords and Volkswagen, and everything inbetween. I even had American Champions in my Mercedes 250 S instead of og German Bosch !
they run a little hotter than other brands, but haven't had a fouled Champion in decades.
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-02-21 10:42
Yes, Ford bought Autolite in 1961 and used them in the later years but all the early Fords before that used Champions. Standard plug for 57 was Champion 870.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-02-21 18:49
thx for getting this straight Jim.
I have nothing but good to say about Champion. I run them in ALL of my Fords and Volkswagen, and everything inbetween. I even had American Champions in my Mercedes 250 S instead of og German Bosch !
they run a little hotter than other brands, but haven't had a fouled Champion in decades.
I run nothing but Autolites in my Fords, I was just stating that Champions were standard in Fords until they acquired Autolite.. So your Champion fender cover is actually period correct.
# 1341
Günter You need a spanking on the wrist for letting that nice red 57 get away from you.
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Comet
you are right, Jay. If I knew then what I know today I wouldn't have sold that one. It was a very solid and dry car, nice rockers, solid quarter panels and great floorboards. I believe it has never been welded before. it had some really neat details. colored glass, black carpet, black real leather seats and tuckn roll panels. a gloss black dashboard and chromed garnish moldings all around! One thing I clearly remember is that you would get small electric shocks when touching the horn ring in summer. when driving in a t shirt and left arm on the chromed door garnish molding it would draw some small current that you could actually feel on the skin. ( horn didn't honk though by just touching the horn ring.....hahaha....). There will always be fond memories and a soft spot in my heart for that car !
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2019-02-21 19:31
# 1341
Günter You need a spanking on the wrist for letting that nice red 57 get away from you.
Jim, I actually still have that very same fender cover and will get it out when working on the 57 Country Sedan in spring ! :002:
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-02-21 19:25
I run nothing but Autolites in my Fords, I was just stating that Champions were standard in Fords until they acquired Autolite.. So your Champion fender cover is actually period correct.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-02-22 12:40
you are right, Jay. If I knew then what I know today I wouldn't have sold that one. It was a very solid and dry car, nice rockers, solid quarter panels and great floorboards. I believe it has never been welded before. it had some really neat details. colored glass, black carpet, black real leather seats and tuckn roll panels. a gloss black dashboard and chromed garnish moldings all around! One thing I clearly remember is that you would get small electric shocks when touching the horn ring in summer. when driving in a t shirt and left arm on the chromed door garnish molding it would draw some small current that you could actually feel on the skin. ( horn didn't honk though by just touching the horn ring.....hahaha....). There will always be fond memories and a soft spot in my heart for that car !
So...being the owner of 2 Couriers...I have to ask...
A) WHAT possessed you to part with it?
B) Where is it now?
Inquiring minds wan...er...ah...NEED to know! :burnout:
Once again, I know there's a Ford in their somewhere.... :006:
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WOW! Look at all that hot rod material waiting to be made into slick rides!
Yeah, I want that dump truck! It would make an awesome camper/tow vehicle. Note in the top right corner, there are people! Appear to be soldiers. and to the left of the dumptruck, and next to the sedan(?) there appears to be someone sitting in the grass. But DUH, I guess we know there were people there, at least a cameraman, lol.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-02-21 18:49
I have nothing but good to say about Champion.
Not me. Back when the motorcycles I ran were two stokes I found that Champions were the worst since they constantly fouled & thereby produced no spark. Haven't used Champion plugs since then. Other plugs were much better. NGK seemed pretty good & are now what I usually use in my four stroke bikes. Cars too.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-02-22 19:33
Once again, I know there's a Ford in their somewhere.... :006:
Wow! That would be a 'gold mine' if it was still there today.
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-02-22 22:58
Not me. Back when the motorcycles I ran were two stokes I found that Champions were the worst since they constantly fouled & thereby produced no spark. Haven't used Champion plugs since then. Other plugs were much better. NGK seemed pretty good & are now what I usually use in my four stroke bikes. Cars too.
X2
Quote from: John Palmer on 2019-02-23 00:18
X2
Another thought. Maybe the popularity of Champion plugs could be that, as I recall, were once the most advertised spark plugs in the magazines or on TV. Sort of like Budweiser beer or the Fram oil filters I used on my Fords for years before learning that they were about the worst ones to use.
I switched to another 'cheap' American beer years ago too.
:icon_jook:
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-02-22 20:03
Yeah, I want that dump truck! It would make an awesome camper/tow vehicle. Note in the top right corner, there are people! Appear to be soldiers. and to the left of the dumptruck, and next to the sedan(?) there appears to be someone sitting in the grass. But DUH, I guess we know there were people there, at least a cameraman, lol.
Really? Are my eyes getting that bad?
Now go easy on the Bud's :003: Fram on the other hand....ready an article in 75 - 76 about Fram, nothing nice said then. Then the 99 Cobra came out and the "purist" on a Cobra soecific web site went off the rails testing filters. Once again Fram ended up on the trash pile. Now these guys were engineers and had labs to analyze the contents and filter capabilities. Wix and NAPA Gold came out on the top of the pile.
I had used Wix for years before the testing results were placed on the site. Just happened my brother managed a repair shop and stocked Wix so I got them by the case.....
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-02-23 06:22
Really? Are my eyes getting that bad?
Maybe mine are. Scroll the picture to the right.
DOHC Y BLOCK
Hugh, there were 2 main reasons.
You can see nothing out of a SD, which is especially bad in todays traffic and on multi lane euro highways.
I needed a heating setup for my newly purchased house back then. and it still keeps me warm in winter.... :002:
@#2
it now is near Stuttgart, Germany. I got in touch with the owner to buy it back , but he didn't want to part with it ( which I understand). That's when I got my Country Sedan.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-02-22 14:50
So...being the owner of 2 Couriers...I have to ask...
A) WHAT possessed you to part with it?
B) Where is it now?
Inquiring minds wan...er...ah...NEED to know! :burnout:
Tom, I actually never used Champions on 2 stroke bikes ( even though I owned some). Probably just personal preference. my German Fords run so much better on Ch. no fouling at all. VWs run great on L86C. much better than on Bosch. the Mercedes ran perfectly.
my 5TA Triumph idles great, lots of high rpm spark. Flatheads and Y block. no problem. SBF 302 and 351. great. dunno. maybe just me.
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-02-22 22:58
Not me. Back when the motorcycles I ran were two stokes I found that Champions were the worst since they constantly fouled & thereby produced no spark. Haven't used Champion plugs since then. Other plugs were much better. NGK seemed pretty good & are now what I usually use in my four stroke bikes. Cars too.
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Combo car dealer and hardware store.
Now that's different.
OK....complete the sentence "WE INVITE YOU TO MAKE YOUR OWN SEL........." your own what?? Selfies were not around back then, lol
Now here's a CHEVY worthy of being in our "old Ford Pics". This one's got a good heartbeat.
Ed Roths 406 FE powered! Now I know where Ratfink was born.........probably what the Chevy guys were calling him.
Quote from: Ford Blue blood on 2019-02-23 06:50
Once again Fram ended up on the trash pile. Now these guys were engineers and had labs to analyze the contents and filter capabilities. Wix and NAPA Gold came out on the top of the pile.
Yup. NAPA Gold oil filters are what I usually use. I've seen it claimed that Wix makes those for NAPA.
I've done a
lot of research on oil & filters & have seen some very well analyzed studies. Another brand of oil filter that may even be better than those two is K&N. I've used those on my bikes but will not use the K&N air filters on anything. I tell people that the only thing K&N air filters do is filter out small birds & rocks.
:001:
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-02-23 22:20
Now that's different.
OK....complete the sentence "WE INVITE YOU TO MAKE YOUR OWN SEL........." your own what?? Selfies were not around back then, lol
Selection
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JFK
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Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-02-25 19:59
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Ever wonder what happened to those cars? I do.
DOWNTOWN FORD
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Vintage Ford power...I love the sound of a Flathead... :003:
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Post cereal
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-02-27 10:10
Post cereal
Can you imagine what one of those cars would be worth today if anyone had one? Or the entire collection? WOW!
I guess I missed out, that stuff was like eating gravel :003:
early smog equipment demo
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-02-27 11:24
I guess I missed out, that stuff was like eating gravel :003:
Bet those cars were metal too...not the plastic junk of today. I ate it as I recall...but can't say what it was like. My memory of those days is foggy...was barely awake at breakfast time! LOL!!!
I kinda liked the stuff, now that I have teeth again, I may try it again if it is still on the shelves. Jim, ya gotta let it soak in the milk for a while before eating, lol.
Yep, one of those cereal boxes or cars would be really cool.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-02-27 17:46
I kinda liked the stuff, now that I have teeth again, I may try it again if it is still on the shelves. Jim, ya gotta let it soak in the milk for a while before eating, lol.
Yep, one of those cereal boxes or cars would be really cool.
Looking at the box again it says Grape Nut Flakes, maybe those were different then the regular Grape Nuts. I thought if they soaked in milk they turned to concrete LOL. I want new teeth too but they would cost as much as two more 57's.
you guys mean This and That ? :003:
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/F-F-Post-Cereal-Premium-1957-Ford-Fire-Chief-Car-Red-Nice-Original/371132972269?hash=item56693fbced:g:wEwAAOSwGvhT~-t8:rk:3:pf:1&frcectupt=true (https://www.ebay.com/itm/F-F-Post-Cereal-Premium-1957-Ford-Fire-Chief-Car-Red-Nice-Original/371132972269?hash=item56693fbced:g:wEwAAOSwGvhT~-t8:rk:3:pf:1&frcectupt=true)
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Ford-Ambulance-F-F-Diecast-Post-Cereal-Promo-USA/132947677141?hash=item1ef44c8fd5:g:R4wAAOSwaIpb83Hy:rk:1:pf:1&frcectupt=true (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Ford-Ambulance-F-F-Diecast-Post-Cereal-Promo-USA/132947677141?hash=item1ef44c8fd5:g:R4wAAOSwaIpb83Hy:rk:1:pf:1&frcectupt=true)
GRAPE NUTS! Wow what a flashback. I had them once, they were small rocks.
1957
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Natalie Wood
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#1407 It looks like Natalie Wood's choice of a car was pretty good.
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2019-03-02 14:03
#1407 It looks like Natalie Wood's choice of a car was pretty good.
Yup. This '55 T-Bird is alleged to be Natalie Wood's 1st car.
Just got through watching "THEM" Check out those whitewalls ! Must be "studio" cop cars.
Hey, if Ohio State Patrol can have rag tops, why can't LAPD have white walls, just saying?
It's Bronco time!
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Quote from: Tom S on 2019-03-02 15:56
Yup. This '55 T-Bird is alleged to be Natalie Wood's 1st car.
If Natalie's first car was a 55 Tbird, that's OK also.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-03-02 21:12
It's Bronco time!
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My how times have changed. Olympia Brewery has been gone now for over 40 years. The family member who was to take over got caught down by Capitol Lake in the bath house by cops being...well...less than correct in societal behavior. The family sold the brewery to the Pabst Brewery, which in turn was sold to Miller, which eventually closed it down.
Just arrived !
In August of 1969 my father took us to Las Vegas for a Ford convention. They introduced the Pinto and the Louisville, (I still have some memorabilia), Elvis was playing at the time and he came to the dinner, sang one song and invited the crowd to come to his show. The highlight for me was during the show we heard a vehicle start up with open headers, I looked through the curtains and saw Big Oly being loaded onto a transporter. My brother and I snuck through and went to watch the action. They also had one of the Lemans GT40's there being loaded. The Ford of USA dealers convention was prior to Ford of Canada and they got the race team. ps I got to sit in the GT40.
The Big Oly Bronco also a had brief appearance in the original Gone In Sixty Seconds as one of the stolen vehicles. Parnelli Jones even had a cameo appearance played by himself of coarse. One thing I found interesting is the Big Oly was only 2-wheel drive.
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2019-03-03 10:33
In August of 1969 my father took us to Las Vegas for a Ford convention. They introduced the Pinto and the Louisville, (I still have some memorabilia), Elvis was playing at the time and he came to the dinner, sang one song and invited the crowd to come to his show. The highlight for me was during the show we heard a vehicle start up with open headers, I looked through the curtains and saw Big Oly being loaded onto a transporter. My brother and I snuck through and went to watch the action. They also had one of the Lemans GT40's there being loaded. The Ford of USA dealers convention was prior to Ford of Canada and they got the race team. ps I got to sit in the GT40.
"They introduced the Pinto and the Louisville"..........I've never heard of a "Louisville", what is it?
Big Oly:
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How about a 8 second Bronco Funny Car, Doug Nash's to be exact...
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Louisville was the heavy truck line that eventually was sold to Sterling.
Nice '58
Just seeing that car...makes me feel like I have drank from the Fountain of Youth! LOL!!!
Nice car...nice pic! (where was that taken anyhow?)
Saint Augustine, FL
Interesting...now that you posted that...I seem to remember something abut that from back in my school days...as a part of American History classes.
Thanks! :002:
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Rough lookin' chopped 39 coupe.
STANDARD SERVICES
Cool pic.....somewhere on route 66!
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-03-05 10:49
Cool pic.....somewhere on route 66!
Looking around on my maps in the 2017 Rand McNalley...I am guessing roughly Arkansas? (a little help from the internet too) Maybe around Alma AR? Not sure if that area (which is now I-40) was part of Route 66 or not.
Route 66 did not go thru Arkansas. From roughly the OKC area, it headed north to Tulsa, then Joplin and St Louis.
Okay...I'll look some more. I wasn't sure where all it went. Thanks!
Colaw's Standard Service Station, Route 66 Carthage, Missouri
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-03-05 15:51
Colaw?s Standard Service Station, Route 66 Carthage, Missouri
Thanks Joe. So...at the moment I am in Branson...how far to Carthage? And is there any semblance of that pace still there? Or do you know?
I have time on my hands now that I finally have all my tax annoyances handed in to the accountant...if there is any semblance of it still there...I'd drive up and take a pic of it and post a "NOW" pic.
From what I can see on Google maps, about 100 miles; I think I read somewhere it's a bank today?
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Okay...might go up...I am sorta stuck here until accountants and bankers get my current and future life in order...taxes and buying a house. I feel like I have lost temporary control of my life! LOL!!!
Nice assembly line pic. Those were good looking cars!
Hugh.......Jerry's classic cars in Springdale, Arkansas specializes in 57-59 fords. If your looking to kill a day......
http://www.jerrysclassiccars.com/ I'd give them a call first, not sure if they want "walk ins", and I heard Jerry retired.
Did you see my "really bad day thread"?
Thanks!!! I am looking to commit murder of a day or two! I will check t out and see if they are still open. :003:
VERY NICE !!
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WILT
'57 Station Wagon
MOM!!!
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Joe...obviously there was no OSHA back in the day! LOL!!!
Unbelievable! The front legs of the ladder have to be locked or bolted or something to keep them secured to the roof you would think.
Nowadays there would be a bucket truck, hydro workers to cut power, coned off with a traffic control and at least a couple foremen to make sure the bulb was screwed in correctly.
And a stack of permits so high...no ladder would be needed! :003:
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-03-08 11:21
MOM!!!
Yeah! #1444 Exactly what is she doing??
:003:
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Nice truckload
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I know what is going through BOTH of their minds...and it has nothing to do with in the tire! LOL!!!
Some of the pics from those days were oh so...suggestive! LOL!!! I miss the good ol' days!
New '37s
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-03-10 10:53
New '37s
And partly hidden over on the right ...
that showroom pic is terrific !!! 37s and 38s are such underrated years today unfortunately.
High flying Fords
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Marvelube! I remember that! Haven't seen any in well over 40 years.
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imagine what all the porcelaine stuff,signs, cabinet, oil rack and gas pumps in that picture would be worth today, let alone that huge neon lit US tire sign...woah ! :004:
Sal's
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-03-12 05:16
imagine what all the porcelaine stuff,signs, cabinet, oil rack and gas pumps in that picture would be worth today, let alone that huge neon lit US tire sign...woah ! :004:
I like watching American pickers for all the cool automobilia the boys come across in their travels.
Interesting little history lessons behind some of their finds.
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Pretty sure that's a '63 Galaxie
I'm counting at least 3 Fords in that photo, maybe 4 if that truck towing the Airstream is a Ford pickup. :003:
It is.....
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-03-12 14:52
I'm counting at least 3 Fords in that photo, maybe 4 if that truck towing the Airstream is a Ford pickup. :003:
It is indeed a Ford...looks like a '63-'64 variety. Good eye! I didn't notice it until you mentioned it. My focus was on the Galaxie and that big house crawling over the freeway.
The house was intended to be the focal point, I just had to be sure there was a FORD in there somewhere.... :002:
Ah...I see. I like the house. Like our cars...they just don't build them anymore with that kind of down home style and beauty.
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FORD AND MONARCH
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Same building a few years apart. Looks like they were busy in both photos.
not good years for the Packard dealer.
LOL!!! Yea...true enough. Shame...those were neat looking cars. Some guys have made some of those body styles into nice customs and hot rods.
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Tbirds
Grain Belt beer-Minnesota.
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Juice brakes and few drive in's
One big potato
Imagine pulling into a drive-in today to get a burger and a brew! LOL!!! My how times have changed.
And how many french fries could that drive-inn have made with a potato that size? YIKES!!!
that menu on the last drive-in makes my mouth water ! I'll take one each !
Hugh and Jim, did you see they have frosted root beer? at 15ct . I'll pay you both a double size ! :003:
we'd probably swallow our root beer floats though, if such a nice 34 cabriolet turned in these days...woah !
I did see that! All we have to d now is find a time machine to transport us back to those days eh? :003:
It would be nice to see drive in's come back and lower gas prices. I spent many hours at the three Bob's we had. OOPs I mean four, I forgot about the one in Pasadena. There is only one left in my area now.
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-03-15 18:43
It would be nice to see drive in's come back and lower gas prices. I spent many hours at the three Bob's we had. There is only one left in my area now.
I worked for a Bob's Big Boy for about 6 months in San Diego. Was on Sports Arena Blvd. across from the Midway Drive-in movie theater on Midway drive. (Bob's was in between Sports Arena and Midway.
Both are gone now...have been for ages. Our Bob's wasn't a drive-in though, it was a regular restaurant by then. Last one now (that I know of) are the Sonics, and they don't leave the tray anymore...just hand you the bags and leave. I miss the trays on the side of the car door. But I guess to many people were driving off with them so...no more.
I think the biggest issue for any chance of a Drive In is people today are always in a hurry, that why we have Drive Thru's today :005: Our one last remaining Bobs in Toluca Lake is a still a drive in and still many Hot Rodders on Friday night.
Well, guess when I finish my Courier I will have to drive to your place and we can show them what classy cars look like! :burnout:
Guilty pleasure I guess, not sure why but Iv'e always wanted one of these.
(https://i.imgur.com/rjhb9gd.jpg)
me too, but it looks like she's already got a boyfriend.
No reason to apologize for wanting one...I'd like one too!
Rich...she's probably late 70's by now. Rather take a run at her granddaughter! LOL!!!
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-03-15 20:09
me too, but it looks like she's already got a boyfriend.
+1 Ya beat me to it. :001:
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-03-15 19:47
Well, guess when I finish my Courier I will have to drive to your place and we can show them what classy cars look like! :burnout:
That would be great fun.. I'll have my friend with a wagon join us :003:
Rich, do you remember Lorenzo's Drive In in Middleboro, MA? I know Jay will. :003:
I remember driving out there in the late 70's-80's in my '74 Bronco and checking out all the Hot Rods. They still have a Cruise night up there.
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Baldwin Hills CA dam collapse 1963
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-03-16 10:09
Baldwin Hills CA dam collapse 1963
That hurts to see.
I know the place, Joe - no kidding. that is probably me in that Ranch wagon in a former life or so....haha.
we've been passing Lorenzo's while going over to Taunton.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-03-16 06:57
Rich, do you remember Lorenzo's Drive In in Middleboro, MA? I know Jay will. :003:
I remember driving out there in the late 70's-80's in my '74 Bronco and checking out all the Hot Rods. They still have a Cruise night up there.
Yeah DJ, it is, was?(not sure if they still have car hop service) a pretty cool place. The only Italian Drive in I have ever seen or heard of.
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Fonty Flock
Sorry if any are repost, too many pictures and I can't remember all of them.
Nice! And even if they are re-posts...you can never see such good looking rolling art too many times! Thanks...I love the shot of the Mustang and the Ranchero!
I am definitely with RMK on the Marauder X100. I was 15 when they came to The dealership in Redlands, and I begged my Dad to buy one. Didn't happen, and I have always wanted one.
I remember going there as a kid.
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I'm thinking this may not be a Ford...
but it is , isn't it ?
to me this looks a lot like a slightly kustomized 1932 3wd cpe with accessory 1934 General Jumbo 14" steel wheels.
tank, framehorns, bumper, rear window, spare hubcap, all 32 Ford my best guess.
probably needed the HD baloon tires because of load issues.
Lawman
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-03-19 07:16
but it is , isn't it ?
to me this looks a lot like a slightly kustomized 1932 3wd cpe with accessory 1934 General Jumbo 14" steel wheels.
tank, framehorns, bumper, rear window, spare hubcap, all 32 Ford my best guess.
probably needed the HD baloon tires because of load issues.
Thanks DJ, I thought it was a '32 but wasn't sure it looked right.
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1507 looks like a deuce to me and it could be a 3 window. If they only knew what they had.
To them it was most likely just a throw away car.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-03-19 15:20
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Joe, one year we sent Christmas cards to everyone (100) with this picture on the front. I did save one card, since it's such a great pic. Thanks for posting it !
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Wow...the current "Classic Auto Parts" on I35 surface road in Oklahoma City use to be named "Ford Obsolete". Same business? any info on that pic Joe?
Aside from two of my favorite cars outside, that yellow old victorian house brings back memories of one I use to drive by in Stow, Mass. that was my dream home. I think when I have a few minutes, I'll try and google earth / street view it.
Enjoying top down weather
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-03-19 07:16
tank, framehorns, bumper, rear window, spare hubcap, all 32 Ford my best guess.
And the suicide doors.
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Indy
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Joe...Model "T" assembly line?
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-03-21 16:16
Joe...Model "T" assembly line?
Model "A" Ford assembly line between the years of 1928 to '31
"The first video below contains footage of the following: engine castings on a set of transfer lines, finished engines, clutches and transmissions at the end of the power plant assembly line, fenders passing by while another operation being preformed, engine installation in the chassis, the body drop process, and ending with finished cars being driven off of the end of the assembly line.
The second video below by British Pathe starts out at the end of the assembly line of the small 1932 8 HP Model Y British Ford. It is followed by views of the end of the Model "A" engine line, a Henry Ford Trade School class working on a drafting assignment and practicing the reading of both a very large micrometer and vernier caliper, views of the piston machining line, frame assembly and hot riveting, mounting of tires, and ending with Model "A" Ford trucks leaving the line at the end."https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=PZnGWJ_6BwU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkCJkdcl8mw
WOW! Amazing that those films were as good as they were slme 80 years ago. And those cars were flying off that line in the end of that first video.
And the hot rivets they used. All that work by hand. A lot of guys working on those assembly lines back then. kind of interesting that an 8 hp engine was enough to power those rather large, and I am sure quite heavy cars too.
And I noticed everyone is wearing coveralls over white shirts and ties. LOL!!! A "white collar" job in those days eh?
Thanks for digging those videos up. Kind of cool to see how they did things almost 100 years back. :003:
Hugh, the 8hp is referring to British tax system of the time ( taxable horsepower). it probably had about 30 hp from a 1.2Litre Flathead 4 engine. (ca 70cui)
I stand corrected, it was a 0.9Litre ( 56.9cui) 4.
QuoteThe maximum speed was just under 60 mph (95 km/h) and fuel consumption was 32 miles per imperial gallon (8.8 L/100 km; 27 mpg‑US).
here is a link to explain the tax horsepower system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_horsepower (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_horsepower)
More Chevy's than Ford, but still a cool pic from a Company many of us spent our hard earned money with....
(https://i.imgur.com/h0uTKmr.jpg)
Would a pic like that from back in the 60's be even possible anyplace other than Socal?............Socal, so cool!
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-03-22 06:51
Would a pic like that from back in the 60's be even possible anyplace other than Socal?............Socal, so cool!
Also that picture of Ford Parts Obsolete looks like the one I remember in So Cal, but my memory is getting more like Swiss cheese every day :005:
Misquamicut beach erosion control after hurricane Carol
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-03-22 04:04
I stand corrected, it was a 0.9Litre ( 56.9cui) 4.
here is a link to explain the tax horsepower system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_horsepower (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_horsepower)
Thanks G... :006:
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-03-22 05:09
More Chevy's than Ford, but still a cool pic from a Company many of us spent our hard earned money with....
(https://i.imgur.com/h0uTKmr.jpg)
As a 12-13 year old I helped out a motorcycle shop on Whittier Blvd back in the late 60's and remember and looked forward to driving by Dougs Headers and checking out the funny cars, altereds, stockers, etc. they had parked in the lot.
Great photo.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-03-22 13:19
As a 12-13 year old I helped out a motorcycle shop on Whittier Blvd back in the late 60's and remember and looked forward to driving by Dougs Headers and checking out the funny cars, altereds, stockers, etc. they had parked in the lot.
Great photo.
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from a member on the HAMB:
"
Actually here is the real scoop. The original company that Doug Thorley started was a muffler shop back in 1958 in East LA. In the early 60's Doug started to make headers and "Headers by Doug" stickers started showing up on winning drag cars. Doug and wife Betty sold the company and got divorced and new owner Micky called it Doug Thorley Headers. A number of years went by and Micky got sick and asked for help. Betty came back in to run things and Micky got worse. He ended up selling the company back to Betty, Doug and a third partner. Doug mainly did R&D and was an investor. Eventually He and Betty had another falling out and she agreed to buy him out. Doug kind of stayed away at this time, occasionally coming around to help out with a little R&D and collect his payments. Betty then got sick and at this time Doug started doing custom headers again under the Doug's Headers name. During this time Doug Thorley Headers was mainly making truck and motor home headers, not muscle car or performance parts. Betty passed and Doug started making production headers again for the classic and muscle car markets. After about another year, the surviving partner sold Doug Thorley Headers to Summit Industries (not the mail order guys) in Corona, Ca who previously had bought out Jerry Jardine of Jardine Headers.
PerTronix, who had previously acquired Ermie Immerso Ind and Thunderbird Headers bought Doug's Headers and Doug worked to help keep the Doug's Headers line a top quality product. PerTronix sells and manufactures them as a premium line to compliment their Patriot Header line. They are currently made in Rancho Dominguez (think north Long Beach) CA.
Doug was also famous for his drag cars - The Chevy II Much that is in the NHRA museum, the Funny Car Corviar that Joe Piasano ended up with, and the pair of rear/mid engined Javelin's."
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-03-20 08:24
Wow...the current "Classic Auto Parts" on I35 surface road in Oklahoma City use to be named "Ford Obsolete". Same business? any info on that pic Joe?
Ford Parts Obsolete was in Los Angeles, CA in the late 1960's and then it moved to Long Beach in the early 1970's.
From a member on the HAMB:
"
You knew you were close when you looked down the road and saw the hallowed out Model T on the roof of the building (used in both locations)
Here is a picture of the 1970 Long Beach catalog. This version of their catalog was my favorite. I loved the picture on the front. I could imagine myself as the young man with the smile on his face, standing next to the farmer.
Rebuilt short block engines were $199.50 exchange
Rebuilt transmissions were $58.50 exchange
Mallory distributors $24.95
354 R&P $48.50
muffler & exhaust clamps $9.50.(https://i.imgur.com/jmM6hFe.jpg)
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There was a small write up in Hot Rod July 1961, 2/3rds of a page near the back of the mag.
Actual magazine photo (not cropped) w/ Hot Rod watermark
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1963 catalog:
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Great history info! Thanks!
In the mid 1960s I started a antique auto parts business here called Connecticut Antique Auto Parts. Ford Parts Obsolete offered me a good deal and the became one of my suppliers. They were great to do business with and I have only good things to say about them.
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99
ladys
Note the side trim on the convertible.
I wondered about that as well.
possibly some kind of Canadian model ?
http://57fordsforever.com/smf/index.php?topic=7775.0
beautiful Skyliner. Can't believe how well the golden anodized trim goes with the inca gold paint. stunning !
(https://www.autabuy.com/photos/2019/01/15/49543191_506173952846889_Orig.jpg)
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HyRail
427
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Built to haul
Joe, I didn't know they had manure pumps for mobile dynos back then. :003:
Cammer must have smoked it badly.
wondering if the SB even had enough torque to crank it. there's probably another one on the other side not visible in pic.:002:
Weren't the Gurney-Eagles push rod motors??
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-03-25 08:44
Weren't the Gurney-Eagles push rod motors??
I have no idea but found this: https://www.museumofamericanspeed.com/gurneyeagleford.html
I can't get it to come up as a link. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
The best part of the dragster photo is it shows the early starter roller's they developed to start dragsters at the starting line. They did not have the removeable electric starters they use today. Up until this time they used push cars, pushed the cars down the strip, manually turned them around, pushed them up to speed in the opposite lane, fired the motors (while facing the starting line), drove them running behind the starting line, turned them around again, and pulled them to the line for the run.
Saying it was slightly unsafe, is an understatement.
It's a very cool photo, forget the engine attached to the rollers.
It looks like a ram horn type of exhaust so it's probably a Chevy :005:
Ct State Police
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-03-25 11:52
It looks like a ram horn type of exhaust so it's probably a Chevy :005:
Kind of an insult to be starting a quality race car with a junker motor. :burnout:
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-03-25 08:44
Weren't the Gurney-Eagles push rod motors??
Yes, 289 small blocks:
"Gurney Weslake V8 Engine
Dan Gurney approached Weslake with the idea of building a V8 engine with alloy heads based on the Ford Fairlane 289 cid block. He had made sketches of his thoughts on this and took them to show Harry Weslake at Rye in England.
Drawings for the new Cylinder Heads and other special parts were drawn up by Harry and his staff at Rye. Here they designed the now world renowned Gurney Weslake Cylinder head and racing engine components. The heads had the inlet ports inclined at nine degrees as opposed to the standard twenty and were round in shape. The combustion chambers were of the Weslake pattered heart shaped (a Weslake Trademark)
The first Heads were made for testing purposes and cast by Alcoa and tested by John Miller at Dan Gurneys All American Racing in the USA. These were the Mark I type.
Modifications were made following the initial testing and then further heads were made in England of the Mark II type at the Weslake works at Rye. Further testing took place in the USA a feature of this being racing at Riverside in 1965.
In 1966 the Mark III version of the Gurney Weslake head had been developed with alterations to make assembly and maintenance easier to carry out. Further development work brought about the Mark IV version of the Head lighter in weight with narrower rocker covers and an inclined carburetor mounting towards the center of the engine. These heads were developed for use with the Ford 305 cid engine and enabled Dan to win at Riverside in 1967. More famously these engines were used to power the Ford GT40 to win at Le Mans Twice, first in 1968 and again in 1969.
In 1968 Dan Gurney set up manufacturing of these heads in England to a modified design for passenger road car use. He was hoping for a contract to supply these Cylinder Heads to Ford or Lincoln-Mercury and believing that an order was coming started manufacture of a very large batch of castings. These had the detuned combustion chambers and were of a budget design and also cast in LM8 at the Airplane and Motor Foundry. See photos for comparison of some of the differences. These could be machined with different size ports and or valve sizes to the full racing heads and some of the internal passage ways are of differing sizes. In the event no manufactures took up the option to purchase of fit these heads as a standard fitment leaving Dan with an enormous stockpile of Road car cylinder heads. Many of these were converted to as near race car spec as the Gurney factory could make them and fitted to Indy cars. None of these heads were fitted to GT40's at the time. All GT40 Heads were of the William Mills foundry and of the higher grade castings with the Full Race combustion Chambers porting and passage ways.
The Airplane and Motor cast Heads were usually branded as Gurney Eagle although some will by a matter of time have been retro fitted with Gurney Weslake Rocker covers."
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Same roller startup machine as the Westlake / Gurney dragster..... apparently from Lions dragstrip.
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Thanks Joe...wonder what a set of those heads would be worth today if one could even find a set!
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-03-25 16:49
Thanks Joe...wonder what a set of those heads would be worth today if one could even find a set!
They could also be used on an Argentine Y block if you were lucky enough to have one :burnout:
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-03-25 17:36
They could also be used on an Argentine Y block if you were lucky enough to have one :burnout:
LOL!!! Me? luck? Yea...right...NO! But hey...one of the few things we can still do without being taxed is dream right?
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-03-25 16:49
Thanks Joe...wonder what a set of those heads would be worth today if one could even find a set!
Here you go...give 'em a call... :003:
(Although you would probably need a second mortgage on the house!)(https://i.imgur.com/n1bx3TJ.png)
Recent post w/ no valve train!:(https://i.imgur.com/KbTnvQn.png)
HHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmm...I clear about $1000.00 a month on my apartment building after expenses...10 months...don't tell my wife! LOL!!!
Not sure what I would put them on. Guess I'd have to break down and buy that '32 Ford from Factory 5 and put a sweet mill in that! :burnout:
Looks like they even toss in the adapters to mount the four IDA Weber's. Four original "Cast in Spain" IDA's will set you back a few more thousand, then you need linkage and plumbing, yike's.
But then again, we are car guys, none of us are getting out of this world with any money left!
Quote from: John Palmer on 2019-03-25 20:59
Looks like they even toss in the adapters to mount the four IDA Weber's. Four original "Cast in Spain" IDA's will set you back a few more thousand, then you need linkage and plumbing, yike's.
But then again, we are car guys, none of us are getting out of this world with any money left!
LOL!!! Yea...money...I've heard of that...isn't that what people we owe take from us BEFORE we ever see it? :'(
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-03-26 01:23
LOL!!! Yea...money...I've heard of that...isn't that what people we owe take from us BEFORE we ever see it? :'(
No, it's what we worked for and then the government takes it from us to give to everybody else who didn't work for it. :deadhorse:
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-03-26 05:06
No, it's what we worked for and then the government takes it from us to give to everybody else who didn't work for it. :deadhorse:
Yea...that happens a lot where I live.
59
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Hugh..........Joe is from Taxachussetts..........I'm pretty sure you'll lose that comparison.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-03-26 20:40
Hugh..........Joe is from Taxachussetts..........I'm pretty sure you'll lose that comparison.
Dunno...Washington state is quickly becoming unaffordable to live in for the same reason...which is as you know the reason we are moving to Branson. Seems those running the state for the last 35+ years are looking to make it part of California...which is about as bad as Taxachuessetts, just 3000 miles away. The party of the Donkey there has never seen a tax they couldn't fall in love with or raise every year or two.
I have had enough. September is my last month there...we will be gone...and I won't miss it.
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May 1959
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OOPs...looks like someone was in the way of someone else.
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Starliner
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Looks like one frame didn't get a body. Wonder why?
Right hand drive.....maybe shipped over somewhere and finished there?
no bumper either, different wheels....strange it's on the same line as the rest.
Yea...weird
BTW,,,I'll call you tomorrow...plans are set.
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Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-03-28 21:15
Looks like one frame didn't get a body. Wonder why?
Probably going to a coach builder.
1960
Joan was a Ford girl!
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Race ready
HD AA truck wheels. possibly postal truck receiving a coachbuilt body as stated before.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-03-28 22:23
Right hand drive.....maybe shipped over somewhere and finished there?
no bumper either, different wheels....strange it's on the same line as the rest.
Pan American race
Good lookin'...car and lady! :003:
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Haney Swap Meet today. Great weather, some cool iron on the road.
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ICY
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-04-01 05:15
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Way back in the good old days (mid 60's) our Mac Tools guy was Herb Wiersig, and covered a tool sales route in Glendale, AZ. This was way before the tool guys started driving the box box vans that were all lettered up with their graphics.
Herb drove a new baby blue painted (very stealth without any tool lettering) Ford Econoline and replaced it every few years. He had some dealer installed optional factory left side doors installed. It was like a early split window "Double Door" VW Kombi Van. He had these huge slide out rolling cabinets. It looked like they extended so far that it might do a wheelie with all of the tool inventory weight in those drawers. The van weighed a ton. He drove it everywhere with just the little six cylinder engine. I'd guess it was a 144, or maybe a 200 cu in engine, and three on the tree shifting.
Lots of these Econoline's served many different trade workers. It was a simpler time.
Joe, I really enjoy all of your vintage photo's.
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2019-03-31 19:05
Haney Swap Meet today. Great weather, some cool iron on the road.
Hey! I am across the water from Victoria! In Port Angeles. Love that 57 with the Continental kit. Sweet!
Quote from: John Palmer on 2019-04-01 22:48
....Joe, I really enjoy all of your vintage photo's.
Thanks John; cool story on the Econoline tool truck!
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430 Lincoln powered
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:003:
:burnout:
Nice wagon !
I like the wagon!
Couldn't decide were to put this one so here it is. Finished the "Drive Home" trip, Houston to Detroit, 2700 miles
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-04-03 20:15
Couldn't decide were to put this one so here it is. Finished the "Drive Home" trip, Houston to Detroit, 2700 miles
Did you just buy that? I am JEALOUS! I would like to have a Ranchero to compliment my 2 Couriers! :003:
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-04-03 20:23
Did you just buy that? I am JEALOUS! I would like to have a Ranchero to compliment my 2 Couriers! :003:
No not mine. I don't know who the owner is. I'd like to have a Courier to compliment my Ranchero :003:.
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Bill Haley was a FORD man....LOL
they were a smoking hot band ! got to meet his original band members, the Comets about 20 years ago and show them my 57 Ford. they were a bunch of cool guys, especially Dick Richards, the drummer and guitarist Franny Beecher, who also played with Benny Goodman in the late 1940s.
Still have their autographs.
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-04-03 09:35
:003:
Sure, Jim, I remember her too. Her name was Vicky. :002:
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Joe...looks suspiciously like the "riverbed" of the L.A. river... :burnout:
1965
Love it, a 57 and an Alco :003:
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-04-05 00:26
Joe...looks suspiciously like the "riverbed" of the L.A. river... :burnout:
You can just see the Los Angeles Furniture sign in the upper right corner. Fantastic picture.
The "correct" way to move a MOPAR.... :003:
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My kind of girl
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-04-06 06:19
The "correct" way to move a MOPAR.... :003:
Nice! I was once heading east across the Hod Canal Bridge in WA state when I saw a F450 tow truck with a Chevy tow truck in it's hook heading west across the bridge. Couldn't get a pic of it...but I will always have the memory! :003:
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-04-02 09:51
430 Lincoln powered
My pappy said, "Son, you're gonna' drive me to drinkin'
If you don't stop drivin' that Hot Rod Lincoln.And there it is. :003:
Quote from: Cecil on 2019-04-06 16:38
My pappy said, "Son, you're gonna' drive me to drinkin'
If you don't stop drivin' that Hot Rod Lincoln.
And there it is. :003:
Ah yes...Commander Cody!
Quote from: Cecil on 2019-04-06 16:38
My pappy said, "Son, you're gonna' drive me to drinkin'
If you don't stop drivin' that Hot Rod Lincoln.
And there it is. :003:
Nope, that ain't it. The
real Hot Rod Lincoln was "A hopped up Model A".
Along with owing a hot rod Model A myself I've got proof that that the Hot Rod Lincoln from the tune of the same name was a Model A & the reason that that tune came to be.
First there is the tune I used to hear often on the radio when I was a little kid years before 'Hot Rod Lincoln' came out.
That tune would be this version of Arkie Shibley's 'Hot Rod Race' by Red Foley. Listen to it all for the mention of the Model A.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8P-QBA0Euo
Maybe it made an impression on me. :)
Here is the original version by Arkie Shibley. Whoever stuck the very wrong car on the illustration for this really screwed up but I sure like the rest of the pic. (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/brows.gif)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE4LvufoNvI
Here's what Wicki has to say about these tunes & the 'Hot Rod Lincoln' tune.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Rod_Race
I rest my case. :003:
You have won your case, Tom. I bow to the master. I should have remembered the "A hopped up Model A" line, but I embrace my right to be a down right idjit at times. I invoke that right at this point in time and wish to announce that there is no limit to my claim to "well, damn".
Quote from: Cecil on 2019-04-06 21:51... I should have remembered the "A hopped up Model A" line ...
That 'A' was apparently in grey primer too. "But I could see that it was a streak of grey, ... it was a kid in a hopped up Model A."
That much of the tune
always stuck with me even though a lot of it didn't.
You tweaked my memory too with your reference to Brother Dave Gardner.
There was a line on one of his records that must have taken me 40 or 50 years to realize what he was saying. Sure had no clue way back then.
He is out with a girl somewhere. His line: "Let's blow this joint, she says, no, man, pass it on to the waitress".
'Miss Baby was alright until Junior and I turned her head around..."
Man, I grew up listening to Brother Dave.
"If you ain't John, I'm gone."
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-04-06 22:14
That 'A' was apparently in grey primer too. "But I could see that it was a streak of grey, ... it was a kid in a hopped up Model A."
That much of the tune always stuck with me even though a lot of it didn't.
You tweaked my memory too with your reference to Brother Dave Gardner.
There was a line on one of his records that must have taken me 40 or 50 years to realize what he was saying. Sure had no clue way back then.
He is out with a girl somewhere. His line: "Let's blow this joint, she says, no, man, pass it on to the waitress".
Wasn't the "Lincoln" part of the song referencing the engine not the car? That was the way I always interpreted it.
sure but Tom's absolutely right. at this point in 1950 Red Foley was either referring to the new 337 Lincoln (big Flathead/Ford truck) V8 or the older 306/292 V12. No MEL around by then.
this is another nice version of the song. I have the 1965 12" vinyl record pictured in video, and yes it also contains Robert Mitchums 'Thunder Road'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgIlG90tWGA
The Motorcycle Story. You will never believe me but the' turn the head around' joke made it into German language and over here in the 1960s...my father was telling similar jokes all the time, exactly with the cycle riders and all... :003:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-PtWvQuIdk
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'55 Ford Custom ?
Looks like the wadded up remains of a Caddy to me.
I agree , I believe it to be a Cadillac. If you look closely ( I used a magnifying glass ) at the dash area, you can see the "Electric Eye" mounted on the dash at the dogleg.
Hauling some Fords....with a Ford
The good old days
Happy days at Kar Kraft Engineering.....
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Quote from: Lgcustom on 2019-04-07 06:57
Looks like the wadded up remains of a Caddy to me.
Quote from: KYBlueOval on 2019-04-07 07:18
I agree , I believe it to be a Cadillac. If you look closely ( I used a magnifying glass ) at the dash area, you can see the "Electric Eye" mounted on the dash at the dogleg.
Thanks guys, wasn't sure; the square vent window and the C script on the fender thought it maybe a Customline, but the low door molding made me wonder
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-04-07 09:26
The good old days
I see a 7.10/7.50 x 15 tire size, and it looks like a 5 1/2" bolt circle (F100) wheel. No 14" wheels for him.
Smokey Yunick was "the guy". They say if they let him run NASA, we would have walked on the moon much earlier.
(https://i.imgur.com/xaSLnPM.jpg)
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-04-07 04:50
... in 1950 Red Foley was either referring to the new 337 Lincoln (big Flathead/Ford truck) V8 or the older 306/292 V12. ...
Hang on there! You're confusing the 'Hot Rod Race' tune with the 1955 tune 'Hotrod Lincoln'.
Foley's cover, nor any version of Arkie Shibley's tune never mentioned the word Lincoln. It was just a "hot rod model A".
I always imagined the original hot rod A-Bone as having a hot Flathead V8 :001:
When I stared buying Hot Rod magazine around 1958-'59 nearly every Model T, Model A, '32 Ford or any other newer Ford rods had Flathead V8s.
So I wanted, and got, a Flattey V8 in my first car in 1962.
I still have a bunch of those old car mags. Unfortunately back then I had cut out most of the best car pix & had 'em taped on my bedroom wall.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-04-07 05:29
The Motorcycle Story. ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-PtWvQuIdk
Whoa! Thanks for that! (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/bow.gif)
Being a motorcycle guy back then, (still am), that brings it all back. I'd forgotten all that bit. Back in those days I know that I sometimes used some of those phrases he used when talking & joking with friends.
Quote from: KYBlueOval on 2019-04-07 07:18
I agree , I believe it to be a Cadillac. If you look closely ( I used a magnifying glass ) at the dash area, you can see the "Electric Eye" mounted on the dash at the dogleg.
Yup, it's a 'Cataract'. You can also just barely make out some of the mangled 'Mae West' bumper.
Quote from: John Palmer on 2019-04-07 14:12
I see a 7.10/7.50 x 15 tire size, and it looks like a 5 1/2" bolt circle (F100) wheel. No 14" wheels for him.
Smokey Yunick was "the guy". They say if they let him run NASA, we would have walked on the moon much earlier.
At one time in the earlier years I think they actually ran truck tires :003:
'59 Sunliner
(https://i.imgur.com/a6FbIhN.jpg)
them there cars weren't made to backup
Take your pick and get service too.
Feeling Racey
Man, I love old Fords, doesn't matter what year. I love 'em.
Quote from: Cecil on 2019-04-08 19:42
Man, I love old Fords, doesn't matter what year. I love 'em.
HEAR HEAR HEAR! Why buy anything else?
Quote from: gasman826 on 2019-04-08 15:37
them there cars weren't made to backup
That my friend pretty much sums up the problem!
Let me grab the shop fork lift and lift it back on the ramps by lifting under the fuel tank.
Hey it's only a Daytona, No way it could ever be worth MILLIONS!
That's a great photo of yesteryear.
Quote from: John Palmer on 2019-04-08 23:21
That my friend pretty much sums up the problem!
Let me grab the shop fork lift and lift it back on the ramps by lifting under the fuel tank.
Hey it's only a Daytona, No way it could ever be worth MILLIONS!
That's a great photo of yesteryear.
Nobody wanted "yesterdays" race cars; rumor had it they couldn't even give them away once the GT program started and they didn't even want to spend the money to bring them home from Le Mans.
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Wish they had used a damn Chevy
At the factory
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-04-09 07:29
Wish they had used a damn Chevy
Yea...there is one buried on an island in the river near my shop. Property owner is an ^ss though, and won't let anyone even think of pulling it out of there. It is in remarkably decent shape still too.
(https://i.imgur.com/z1PSzqr.jpg)
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-04-09 16:34
I'll probably get smited for this. :(
Sorry Joe, but that ain't a Ford pickup! (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/hide.gif)
The shape of the cowl is all wrong. Still thought at first it might have been a 1926-'27 T but they don't have that forward sweep of the inside front fenders. With those long frame horns it must have parallel leaf front springs instead of a single transverse spring. Wrong bumper too if that even means anything.
Going by that upward curved sweep just ahead of the door I think it might be about a 1919-'23 Dodge.
Supercharged '57 going to a high rollers auction.
"1957 Ford Custom Phase 1 Supercharged 312/300 HP, 1 of 4 Known to Exist"
Found here among a flock of Birds.
https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indianapolis-2019/collections/amos-minter-f-bird-collection/?utm_source=AAInfoNet+Master&utm_campaign=1369131c73-SC19_Minter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_fa410e9114-1369131c73-112654645&mc_cid=1369131c73&mc_eid=a41116760c
Direct link to the '57 with lots more pix. (For those that may not know, you can click on the pic at the upper right for the larger pix.)
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0519-370027/1957-ford-custom-phase-1/
1 of 4?? what am I missing here. Reserved for thunderbirds only except for the 4?? what??
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-04-09 21:38
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-04-09 16:34I'll probably get smited for this. :(
Sorry Joe, but that ain't a Ford pickup! (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/hide.gif)
The shape of the cowl is all wrong. Still thought at first it might have been a 1926-'27 T but they don't have that forward sweep of the inside front fenders. With those long frame horns it must have parallel leaf front springs instead of a single transverse spring. Wrong bumper too if that even means anything.
Going by that upward curved sweep just ahead of the door I think it might be about a 1919-'23 Dodge.
I agree. I'll admit I have a hard time with the older stuff, and the majority of the older pictures have a mix of brands, but what about to the right?
'57 Sunliner
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-04-09 23:01
1 of 4?? what am I missing here. Reserved for thunderbirds only except for the 4?? what??
Sounds like they are saying how many still exist, wonder how many were actually built?
(https://i.imgur.com/oT1MtL9.jpg)
Beautiful car. I'd buy it in a second.....
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-04-10 19:24
(https://i.imgur.com/oT1MtL9.jpg)
And those were drum brakes on all 4 corners too. Imagine stopping that bad puppy with some serious disc brakes in front..or maybe all 4 corners!
Nice ride...I'd like to have one today!
Drum brakes stop faster than disks, disk do not fade with heat, and have fewer parts in production is their advantage.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-04-10 05:06
I agree. I'll admit I have a hard time with the older stuff, and the majority of the older pictures have a mix of brands, but what about to the right?
Uhoh! I did scroll that big pic over to the right but apparently I didn't go quite far enough. Never saw what looks like a couple of 1930/'31 Ford Tudors & was pretty much focused on what appeared to be the central car/pickup in the pic.
Sorry again, Joe. How embarrassing. :-[
Maybe I should smite myself.
Quote from: Lou on 2019-04-10 21:21
Drum brakes stop faster than disks, disk do not fade with heat, and have fewer parts in production is their advantage.
I thought discs were faster due to the lack of fade. And I thought caliper pressure was stiffer than spring pressure. I admit to not being a master brake mechanic by any stretch. so that was my thought FWIW. :003:
Drum brakes have more swept area, that's why they are still used on big trucks. Yes drum brakes have a problem with fade when hot, that's why disks became norm for race cars. The fade problem can be helped with the use of hard linings but they need a lot more pedal pressure. Detroit went to disk because of two reasons, they could advertise "Are cars have the same brakes as race cars", and disks have a lot less parts than drum brakes, therefore cheaper to make and assemble. Remember nothing happens in Detroit unless it the law or it saves or makes money.
Quote from: Lou on 2019-04-11 00:11
Remember nothing happens in Detroit unless it the law or it saves or makes money.
Bingo. It wasn't until "safety" became a selling point that folks accepted seat belts, and it wasn't until the gubmint (unless I'm wrong, so feel free to correct me) mandated air bags that we began to see them as standard equipment. Personally, the first car I rode in that had seat belts was a '64 Impala and I happily put them on. Now I feel naked without them, which is gonna be a problem with my new baby.
Having said that...what the heck does this have to do with old Ford pics? More pictures!!!!!
Quote from: Lou on 2019-04-11 00:11
Drum brakes have more swept area, that's why they are still used on big trucks. Yes drum brakes have a problem with fade when hot, that's why disks became norm for race cars. The fade problem can be helped with the use of hard linings but they need a lot more pedal pressure. Detroit went to disk because of two reasons, they could advertise "Are cars have the same brakes as race cars", and disks have a lot less parts than drum brakes, therefore cheaper to make and assemble. Remember nothing happens in Detroit unless it the law or it saves or makes money.
Okay...makes sense. I am still going to go with a split on my Courier...discs in front and drums in the rear. But I understand what you are saying. Thanks.
I think 61s are among the most underrated Fords ever. I just love them. great looks and performance.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-04-10 19:24
(https://i.imgur.com/oT1MtL9.jpg)
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Quote from: Cecil on 2019-04-11 00:21
Having said that...what the heck does this have to do with old Ford pics? More pictures!!!!!
After you have been here a while you will see many post that only take a slight breeze to knock things off track, and we accept that because we have a great group here :001:
Having said that I used to use Grey-Rock Metallic linings on my old 57's back in the 60's and they STOPPED, and the hotter they got the better they worked. I run disc now on the front and the advantage I like besides no fading is they work much better when they get wet unlike drums..
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-04-11 05:07
I think 61s are among the most underrated Fords ever. I just love them. great looks and performance.
I totally agree. The 3spdOD trans in my 57 came out of a friends 61 Starliner, 390/401hp. I'm going to get that car some day :003:
Nice
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-04-11 10:24
Nice
Yes...she was! OH...did you mean the car? Yea...it is nice too! :glasses9: \
(https://i.imgur.com/9lhVMHZ.jpg)
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-04-11 16:51
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Joe...Bonnie and Clyde's last ride?
I saw Bonnie and Clyde's shot-up Ford at the Minnesota state fair in the mid-70s. I think it was a 34. I don't remember any remnants of what looks like old decals or something, that I see in this picture.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-04-11 18:25
Joe...Bonnie and Clyde's last ride?
Yes sir, a 1932-34? Ford Fordor Deluxe Sedan.
(https://i.imgur.com/2MNGJfE.jpg)
Quote from: fdlrc on 2019-04-11 19:12
I saw Bonnie and Clyde's shot-up Ford at the Minnesota state fair in the mid-70s. I think it was a 34. I don't remember any remnants of what looks like old decals or something, that I see in this picture.
Okay...just came to mind since I just saw a newer movie on the last days of the hunt for them. Is that car on a permanent display somewhere these days? Do you know? (I am a sucker for historical stuff.)
Thanks.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-04-11 19:26
Yes sir, a 1932 Ford Fordor Deluxe Sedan.
Thanks Joe. Do you know where the car resides today?
Quote from: fdlrc on 2019-04-11 19:12
I saw Bonnie and Clyde's shot-up Ford at the Minnesota state fair in the mid-70s. I think it was a 34. I don't remember any remnants of what looks like old decals or something, that I see in this picture.
I think those are watermarks on a copyrighted picture or something of the sort... :unitedstates:
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-04-11 19:27
Thanks Joe. Do you know where the car resides today?
See the links below. I believe that most of the cars on display today are replicas; the original is supposedly on display at Whiskey Pete's Casino in Primm, Nevada and was actually raced in 1987 according to the article.
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/08/13/bonnie-and-clyde-death-car/
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2017/05/23/bonnie-and-clydes-bullet-riddled-death-car-is-on-display-at-whiskey-petes-casino-in-primm-nevada/
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-04-11 19:35
See the links below. I believe that most of the cars on display today are replicas; the original is supposedly on display at Whiskey Pete's Casino in Primm, Nevada and was actually raced in 1987 according to the article.
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/08/13/bonnie-and-clyde-death-car/
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2017/05/23/bonnie-and-clydes-bullet-riddled-death-car-is-on-display-at-whiskey-petes-casino-in-primm-nevada/
Thank you sir. :003: I can make a side trip through there if that is so, on my way to Missouri from WA state.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-04-11 19:26
Okay...just came to mind since I just saw a newer movie on the last days of the hunt for them. Is that car on a permanent display somewhere these days? Do you know? (I am a sucker for historical stuff.)
Thanks.
Was it "The Highwaymen" w/ Woody Harrelson and Kevin Costner? Watched it with my wife last week on Netflix, definitely better than the Faye Dunaway/ Warren Beatty one.
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beauty !!!! love the antenna !
Bonnie and Clyde's death car was a cordoba beige 1934 Ford 4dr sdn. the original is still out there among the movie car and a few fake cars that were used for display in casinos.
NYPD in the Chinatown area
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-04-12 05:09
Was it "The Highwaymen" w/ Woody Harrelson and Kevin Costner? Watched it with my wife last week on Netflix, definitely better than the Faye Dunaway/ Warren Beatty one.
It was. I also watched it on Netflix...on the first night it was available. I agree with you...much better.
A few more
That red 61 Galaxie has the Ford Super Duty hood scoop I'd like have.
(https://i.imgur.com/3GO3Q1d.jpg)
50th anniversary of the Boss 302 and Boss 429. Both successful cars and engines for what they were built for.
(https://i.imgur.com/0zWiNdV.jpg)
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-04-12 19:10
50th anniversary of the Boss 302 and Boss 429. Both successful cars and engines for what they were built for.
Oh Randy...I have a 69...not a Boss car...but still. I do love those cars. If I ever were to win the LOTTO... :003:
Summer 1961
(https://i.imgur.com/EeUnp60.jpg)
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2019-04-12 05:15
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Decopified :002:
Purdy! Love that shade of blue.
I remember as a kid when they came out with a model of the bumblebee color scheme on the new '55 Ford. I talked my mom into buying me that Sunliner model car !
(https://i.imgur.com/jsxgdOG.jpg)
Dave you did good, but your mom and pops obviously failed in car choice :002: ( as seen in pic :002:)
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-04-14 11:54
I remember as a kid when they came out with a model of the bumblebee color scheme on the new '55 Ford. I talked my mom into buying me that Sunliner model car !
(https://i.imgur.com/bnKALpw.jpg)
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-04-14 15:27
Dave you did good, but your mom and pops obviously failed in car choice :002: ( as seen in pic :002:)
Actually it's not me in the picture, although I would have been 9 at the time. I only got the model, but wish my dad got that car. There was a small used car lot that had a red/yellow painted '55 sunliner in town years later.
From the movie " Naked City "
There were a total of 100 vehicles made in January 1957 with the Phase 1 supercharged engine, 15 T-birds, 20 Fairlane Convertibles and 65 Customs. Only 4 of the Customs are known of. I believe 12 T-birds exist and just 1 Fairlane Convertible has been found.
I wonder if the F code Customs were sold to Nascar teams and could be why there are so few remaining. Were the supercharged 312's even legal to race in Grand National events?
Superchargers (Ford) and Fuel injection (Chevy) were allowed in the Grand national class in '57. They were both outlawed prior to the 1958 season.
At the track
(https://i.imgur.com/DPDP0cR.jpg)
She sorta looks like she is stunned.."WHAT is this and what do I do with it" is going through her head! LOL!!!
Was that one of Daryl Starbird's creations maybe? :003:
1954 Ford FX Atmos
"Few concept cars encapsulated the jet age better than Ford's F/X Atmos, which was unveiled at the Chicago Auto Show in March, 1954.
Styled by Ford Studio designer John Middlestead, the Ford F/X Atmos show car was fiberglass 'pushmobile' with no powertrain, although Ford PR flacks suggested that it was the type of car which could be powered by nuclear energy. It was painted in patriotic red, pearlescent white and blue colors. F/X stood for Future Experimental; the vehicle was steered with hand grips, had a radar screen, and driver sat in the center. Two needle-like protrusions from the front fender pods were allegedly radio antennae for collision-free auto piloting.
Wheelbase was 105 inches; length was 221 inches - with enormous front and back overhangs - and the swoopy dream car was a mere 48 inches in height. Lewis D. Crusoe, a top Ford executive, commented, "This car is not intended for future production, although the design represents one of the many avenues which styling could be used for future studies."
from another article:
"Apparently designed with the intention of skewering pedestrians as if on a spit, the Ford FX Atmos was first revealed at the 1954 Chicago Auto Show. And, although pedestrians were in grave danger, driver visibility was outstanding, with a center driving position and a panoramic bubble roof with hardly any pillars to block the driver's view of the road.
The car also had other futuristic design cues, like the swept-back tail fins, dual rocket-like exhaust outlets, and dual handgrips instead of a steering wheel. On the dash, apparently there was also a "Roadarscope" display screen that provided roadway information, but we were unable to locate an image of the Roadarscope in action (from what we did find, it wasn't functioning but was merely a design concept in 1954). The car even was supposed to have an auto-pilot feature would use plates installed in the ground to guide it.
Detroit took a lot of design inspiration in the 1950s and 1960s from the space program, inspired by people's fascination with space travel. And one would probably feel like George Jetson himself driving the FX Atmos around the neighborhood."
(https://i.imgur.com/3od3IVI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FlnuOoz.jpg)
Wonder if it is still around today or was crushed like so many other "prototype" cars were. That would be something to see today.
I have been through about 1/3 of the Henry Ford in Detroit, but haven't seen it. One of these days I hope to get through the entire place, maybe I'll find it there.
Thanks for the info. :003:
I don't have a clue?
I want one !
quote I don't have a clue?
Looks like an aluminum bodied car...but I have no idea either.
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-04-17 07:23
I don't have a clue?
I believe it to be a Pontiac or Oldsmobile concept car. Kind of their version of a Corvette.
I still love these old photos, and don't care if one Brand X slips in.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-04-17 05:12
Wonder if it is still around today or was crushed like so many other "prototype" cars were. That would be something to see today.
I have been through about 1/3 of the Henry Ford in Detroit, but haven't seen it. One of these days I hope to get through the entire place, maybe I'll find it there.
Thanks for the info. :003:
The FX Atmos was made out of some type of early plastic (from what I have read) and sagged severely from the heat of lights and/or sun and was quickly destroyed.
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-04-17 07:23
I don't have a clue?
John is right, it's a 1956 Pontiac Club de Mer , pretty cool actually (even for an 'off brand") :003:
Check out the link, some pretty cool stuff
"The 1956 Motorama show car Club de Mer was powered by a V8 with two four-barreled carburetors. This sleek two-seater had a rear transaxle with independent rear suspension. It had a 104" wheelbase, was 180" long and 37" high. A crush grain vermillion leather interior harmonized with the cerulean blue paint scheme.
Very low and very swoopy, the Pontiac Club de Mer debuted at the 1956 GM Motorama. This two passenger sports car had twin-bubble Plexiglas cafe racer windscreens, stood a mere 38" high and had an aluminum body, a 300 horsepower modified Pontiac V-8 engine and a DiDion independent rear suspension. The front nacelle rotates 180 degrees to expose the headlamps." http://www.carstyling.ru/ru/car/1956_pontiac_club_de_mer/
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-04-17 14:39
John is right, it's a 1956 Pontiac Club de Mer , pretty cool actually (even for an 'off brand") :003:
Check out the link, some pretty cool stuff
"The 1956 Motorama show car Club de Mer was powered by a V8 with two four-barreled carburetors. This sleek two-seater had a rear transaxle with independent rear suspension. It had a 104" wheelbase, was 180" long and 37" high. A crush grain vermillion leather interior harmonized with the cerulean blue paint scheme.
Very low and very swoopy, the Pontiac Club de Mer debuted at the 1956 GM Motorama. This two passenger sports car had twin-bubble Plexiglas cafe racer windscreens, stood a mere 38" high and had an aluminum body, a 300 horsepower modified Pontiac V-8 engine and a DiDion independent rear suspension. The front nacelle rotates 180 degrees to expose the headlamps."
http://www.carstyling.ru/ru/car/1956_pontiac_club_de_mer/
Thank you for the info. So many old pictures don't include a description and here is another I don't have a clue.
Bowman and Schwartz built Phantom Corsair, I believe the owner was a member of the Heinz Ketchup family.
A nice '63
(https://i.imgur.com/bJELKhF.jpg)
Isn't that the car they used in the earliest Batman cartoons ? It is incredible how low and sleak it is compared to the 35, 40 and 41 Fords behind it.
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2019-04-18 09:35
Bowman and Schwartz built Phantom Corsair, I believe the owner was a member of the Heinz Ketchup family.
"The 1962 Seattle World?s fair lacked the size, scope and subsequent recognition of the New York World's Fair held just two years later. However, it was an urban renewal project that changed the skyline of Seattle, thanks to the opening of the Space Needle, and also provided Ford with the opportunity to exhibit a new concept themed around space flight. Called the Seattle-ite XXI, the long jet-like coupe was presented as a nuclear-powered two-seater cross-country turnpike cruiser.
Although promoted as a full-size car in publicity photographs, it was actually only ever shown as a 3/8-scale model, yet many ideas pioneered in the car have become a reality.
The name Seattle-ite was a portmanteau of Seattle, Satellite and Seattleite (a resident of Seattle). The XXI represented 21, the century to which the Fair looked forward.
The work of Tucker Torpedo designer Alex Tremulis, the Seattle-ite was designed for high-speed travel along the newly-developed interstate highway system.
Given the speeds that the car could theoretically cruise at, six wheels were employed, with two pairs up front that doubled as both driving and steering wheels, and one pair trailing behind.
Having two pairs of wheels up front led to some interesting proportions. Seen from the front and rear three-quarter views, the car doesn't seem particularly extreme. However, from the side, the coupe looks almost cartoonishly long, with an enormous hood and rear deck- clearly the car would prove an inspiration for Lady Penelope's six-wheel FAB1 in Thunderbirds later in the decade.
In addition to providing stability at speed, the forward portion of the car, including the four drive wheels, was designed to detach when in an urban area and replaced with a more compact and efficient city car module. Other modules were theoretically available, but none were shown at the Fair, each connected by a flexible attachment in the firewall.
he passenger cabin was a cockpit with a glass canopy. Entry was gained by intricate, two-stage doors, with the upper, glazed part rising gullwing-style, and the lower part pushed out on rods. Once seated, one luxuriated in plush bucket seats that curved in a single piece from the passenger's shoulder to their feet, offering enhanced comfort on long drives. The driver was also treated to a host of technology, including steering that worked with just a fingertip touch and a host of navigational aids. These included a primitive GPS, continuously updated weather conditions, and vehicle monitoring systems, all intended to serve to long distance driver. The canopy over the passenger compartment was constructed of variable density glass that would allow diffuse light into the cabin, and aid climate control. Additional ventilation was provided by the louvre jalousie window behind, the driver and passenger.
Created at Ford's advanced studio, the Seattle-Ite XXI would remain just a model. However, many ideas introduced with the car have made production in some form. Although never massively popular, the six-wheel configuration would be used on the Tyrrell P34 Formula 1 car and the Cadillac-powered Panther 6 of the 1970s. The idea of an interchangeable nuclear fuel cell was a nonstarter, but the idea of swapping fuel cells, batteries and other powertrain elements reappears frequently. Similarly, the idea of different interchangeable modules on a single chassis city car, family car, light duty pickup, etc.- has been explored on a number of concept cars over the years.
However, the proposed navigation systems, including GPS, road monitoring, weather updates and engine monitoring systems all are common in today's cars. Even a version of the glass canopy has become common with the advent of the panoramic roof in the last few years. Autonomous cars may yet facilitate the use of lounge-like seating, too. While the ideas pioneered in the Seattle-ite broke new ground, the concept?s design was a coda to the jet-age theatrics of the 1950s. Ford designers, as well as those of other manufacturers, were already looking beyond the tailfin, the glass canopy, and other rocket themes and embracing the fact that the car is a vehicle for exploring the wonders of the earth, not the heavens.
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'56 SUNLINER
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-04-19 19:47
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I fully agree! Wish I had those models in my car model collection! :003:
I shot this in the old Branson car museum before the tornado removed the museum and most of the cars from earth.
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FORD AND FENDER
Joe
I don't know how you manage to come up with all that information.
FWIW Great Woods swap meet is on mother's day week end. I'm in spaces J1 and k1
if you or any of the members have stuff that is too big to lug around you can leave it with me.
As you know that place is huge.
Jay
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HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE
Thanks, same to you and yours.
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Quote from: Tom S on 2019-04-21 22:27
And a Fuzzy Easter to you as well! Thanks!
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...at least the body is Ford
STARLINER
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-04-22 08:36
STARLINER
The photo of that flat bottom V-Drive ski boat brings back lots of memories. We had a old 1960's Caribbean V-Drive and the cavitation plate and linkage leaked water so bad we had to keep the trailer in the water to park the boat on when it was not moving. It had one way check valve flaps across the transom that let the water out when the boat was moving. The engine was a dual Holley equipped 427 Ford Medium Riser. We ended up sinking the boat, dragged it up on the trailer and winched it up slowly as we bailed out the water. Finally we had the boat out of the lake, and the crankcase was full of water! We drained the lake water from the oil drain plug until we saw oil begin to come out. We pulled the carbs and turned them over to drain the water. and dried the dual point distributor with brake clean spray. Pulled all the plugs to spin it over and pump the water out. Then we got it started, and took the boat out to get the oil temperature up. I'm still amazed that it even ran. Those were great times, we burned a LOT of dinosaur gas. The best part, it was 35 cents per gallon. Seems like yesterday.
That '61 Starliner is one of the prettiest cars ever made imho.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-04-22 12:57
That '61 Starliner is one of the prettiest cars ever made imho.
Indeed. I remember seeing a black one with a red interior when I was a teen. I've always thought they were one of the coolest cars on the road.
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Starliners are one of my favourite fords... except.......a 57 is better. hahahah
I would love to build a Nascar version and one for the street.
62s are nice too
Only thing I'd change on that black one..................... would be better with Texas plates and a cowboy hat on the package shelf.
well, ok.maybe ditch the raised whiteletters and hood scoop in favor of something a bit more subtle.
They must be the next most underrated Ford to the 61s....I have been discussing this with people who like the car to the back of the 62 better. ( yes the 1957 tractor with all the chrome load of tin foil on it :003:).
Some call the 62 slab sided, but I personally really like the smooth appearance, they had spectacular interiors as well !
You got to love the MT Rader mag wheels !
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-04-23 10:16
62s are nice too
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-04-23 10:20
Only thing I'd change on that black one..................... would be better with Texas plates and a cowboy hat on the package shelf.
well, ok.maybe ditch the raised whiteletters and hood scoop in favor of something a bit more subtle.
I agree, change the hood and turn the tires around, I'll keep the hat :003:
All the Starliner tops really looked great and the rear view that looked like a carry over from from '57s with those little fins and big round Ford tail lights was IMO just outstanding.
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1965
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JUNE 1958
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Repurposed '58
OUCH! You have to wonder why they cut up a sedan to build that instead of using a Ranchero? :-[ :-[
I believe there are old French (as in European) 1970s plates on the 58. there is an art deco 'Metro' (city railways) sign to the back which would lead us to believe this is in Paris. There was a French company that specialized in making 'movie camera' cars, and the cut up Citroen DS in the back is further hint. I can also spot a Peugeot 404 to the left and a 203 parked to the right. I don't really know about what is going on in that pic though.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-04-26 17:39
....I don't really know about what is going on in that pic though.
It is an article about the "Passing of Bernard Chateau, the Gentleman with the Movie Camera Car" from August 20, 2016.
I have attached the link below:
https://www.afcinema.com/Deces-de-Bernard-Chateau-gentilhomme-a-la-Camera-Car.html?lang=fr
You can translate it with Google or click the English link after the title. (
however, if you use the English button, the picture subtitles stay in french; if you use Google translate, the pics are in English) There is a series of photos with explanation as well as articles at the bottom of the page. If you look closely, there are scroll button next to them or you can wait for them to scroll. You can also click on the photos to enlarge and scroll as well.
Shooting with an arc on the roof top of a Ford Fairlane 1956, in the 1960s -
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Mercury with crane and DS Citroen near the Samaritaine for "Paris burns it", In 1966
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Shooting with a 1958 Mercury, in the 1960s
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Bernard Chateau at the wheel of a 1958 Mercury towing a Chevrolet Corvette, in 1966
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Mercury equipped with a crane in front of the Samaritaine, in 1966
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HAPPY 427 FORD DAY !!!
Brand new '57
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'56 Sunliner
Don Garlits first dragster
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$5000
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-05-02 17:23
$5000
Oh how sweet that would have been to own! What year was it offered up do you know? Or where is it now I wonder?!
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-05-02 18:26
Oh how sweet that would have been to own! What year was it offered up do you know? Or where is it now I wonder?!
X2
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-05-02 22:49
X2? What is that? :-\
X2 = Times two. He is agreeing with you.
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-05-02 23:50
X2 = Times two. He is agreeing with you.
AH! Okay. I am not so good with internet "shorthand" LOL!!! Thank you sir! :003:
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Very interesting pic..........must be the way they checked HP back in the day. Obviously the innards of that equiptment was similar to the old weight scale we're all familiar with. I'm guessing hp was measured by how much weight could be moved at a given rpm..............or, am I way off?
Lots of Brylcream in that pic also, lol.
2DR OR 4DR
Recognize him?
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Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-05-03 07:50
Very interesting pic..........must be the way they checked HP back in the day. Obviously the innards of that equiptment was similar to the old weight scale we're all familiar with. I'm guessing hp was measured by how much weight could be moved at a given rpm..............or, am I way off?
Lots of Brylcream in that pic also, lol.
An engine dynamometer cell at Edelbrock Equipment in 1950s, with the three-carb flathead used in Hernandez-Meeks ?32 Ford roadster. Bobby Meeks, left, was Vic Edelbrock?s top engine builder; Fran Hernandez, right, ran the machine shop from 1950 to 1956. Photo Credit ? Fran Hernandez Collection
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-05-04 06:39Recognize him?
Yup. But only because his name was mentioned when I ran across that pic years ago. Doubt I would have otherwise. The pic was titled as being
his first car. :003:
I
thought I posted the same pic & the name here a while back. (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/Doanno.gif) Maybe not since I don't find it.
427 power
He must have a Ford thing going, as he later played that truly great role in Gran Torino !
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-05-04 06:39
Recognize him?
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But don't forget he went to the dark side in a pink Cadilac.
In 'perfect world' there was even a 57 Ford involved! driven by K.C. though
Dirty Harry and Magnum Force, both movies he drove a 68 and 72 Custom 500's. In the Enforcer he went down hill a bit and drove a Satellite or Sebring.
this is some outright interesting trivia here ! sorry for watermarks. og press photo is available on ebay.
Quote1956 Press Photo citizens of Moscow looked at, 1957 Ford Sedan near Kremlin Wall
This is an original press photo. Curious citizens of Moscow inspected a 1957 Ford Sedan near the Kremlin wall Monday. The car belongs to the United States state department. It was flown to Russia ahead of its unveiling in this country. Seven other new Fords will be sent to the Moscow embassy later. All were purchased for $1 each. Ford-Automobile Photo measures 8 x 7.75 inches. Photo is dated 10-2-1956.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1956-Press-Photo-citizens-of-Moscow-looked-at-1957-Ford-Sedan-near-Kremlin-Wall/303109638378?hash=item4692be08ea:g:AysAAOSw9pNcm~wy
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Those Russian "citizens" were probably wondering why their cars couldn't look as good!
I bet !
But.....there were quite some US made cars in Russia back then, which is rarely known today. Once I found a Russian website that was dedicated only to US made cars with Russian (USSR) registration. everything from 1930s Packards to 1950s Corvettes 1960s Ch***s and inbetween. I found that very interesting. site stated that often they were ambassador cars or imported from third countries like Finland aso. probably also Germany/Eastern Germany before the wall came up.
Now, I will have to say it's great to see one of our 57 Fords ( and obviously 7 more, acc to text) in front of Moscow's Kremlin of all places. Who'd have thought .....?!
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-05-04 16:53
I bet !
But.....there were quite some US made cars in Russia back then, which is rarely known today. Once I found a Russian website that was dedicated only to US made cars with Russian (USSR) registration. everything from 1930s Packards to 1950s Corvettes 1960s Ch***s and inbetween. I found that very interesting. site stated that often they were ambassador cars or imported from third countries like Finland aso. probably also Germany/Eastern Germany before the wall came up.
Now, I will have to say it's great to see one of our 57 Fords ( and obviously 7 more, acc to text) in front of Moscow's Kremlin of all places. Who'd have thought .....?!
I had heard that one of the reasons so many American cars were found in Russia (and some other countries) was because the domestic cars of those places were so undependable. Imagine that...a Russian car that has zero dependability! LOL!!!
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-05-04 16:40
Those Russian "citizens" were probably wondering why their cars couldn't look as good!
Some of them might have thought it was like a big luxury car.
A few Fords
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-05-05 17:08
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This looks like a shot from an episode of "Twilight Zone" that I seen on TV the other night.
Teen Fran Hernandez with flathead-powered ?32 Ford that he built and raced at El Mirage in 1939. Years later, Fran would start his 32 yr career at Ford, most spent managing drag, Trans-Am, and NASCARacing programs and 429 Mustangs
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Quote from: 59meteor on 2019-05-05 22:55
This looks like a shot from an episode of "Twilight Zone" that I seen on TV the other night.
Correct, Episode 2.07
429 and some 427's
Beautiful
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Quote from: hemidave on 2019-05-06 16:27
Beautiful
Oh how I would love to have that car today! SWEET!
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-05-06 16:31C Street Roadster #313 pic
Woah! The only '32 Fords that had suicide doors are the 3 Window coupes. Apparently somebody cut the top off of one :(
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-05-06 20:05
Woah! The only '32 Fords that had suicide doors are the 3 Window coupes. Apparently somebody cut the top off of one :(
Or modified it. Not that anyone would dare do such a thing! LOL!!! :003:
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-05-06 23:12
Or modified it.
That's the same thing, just not as specific.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-05-06 23:12
Not that anyone would dare do such a thing! LOL!!! :003:
Yeah, I wouldn't think of it.
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-05-06 20:05
Woah! The only '32 Fords that had suicide doors are the 3 Window coupes. Apparently somebody cut the top off of one :(
"This is what a typical Southern California '32 Ford hot rod looked like back in the day. This one was photographed in 1962 at fifth-mile drags in Virginia Beach, Virginia, running 79.53 miles per hour in the 14's. Owned by Joe Montgomery, its power came from a 100-horsepower, 292-inch flathead with a single carb."
Having fun
Got to love the woodies
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One of the ten flathead-powered front-drive Miller-Ford Special open-wheel racers built for the 1935 Indy 500. Photo taken during practice, prior to paint and racing livery.
Haha....that pic of the guy on the go kart brought a smile to my face....the shoes of all things. Tom McCan's Snap Jacks. They were the Kool thing in the early sixties....63ish.
Good catch on the shoes, I had a pair and loved them !
Don Garlits first dragster...
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Good old SERVICE stations
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-05-09 05:21
Don Garlits first dragster...
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Imagine the thoughts that go through his mind when he thinks of the speed that car made doing 1320, vs. the speed his last car made. Must be a rush all over again! :burnout:
True... those guys thought they were "flying" back then!
Don Garlits first dragster flathead engine
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Don Garlits dragster slingshot
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-05-09 18:36
Don Garlits dragster slingshot
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Is it my imagination...or do the rear tires in each of the last 2 shots look like "home made" slicks? They look like street tires that have had the tread grooves shaved off. Probably good for 2-3 passes then needing new rubber.
They were just "recaps". They had the local tire shop grind off all of the original carcass rubber, then they wrapped the new rubber around the tire, it looked like a continuous rubber band. Then it went into the tire mold which had a minimum number of grooves (usually two to four) and then it went into the vulcanizer to melt it all together. The minimum grooves were to make them "street legal".
The last set of recap slicks I had were maybe 30 years ago and were made by Caldwell Tire in Pasadena, CA., before they closed up.
The recap slicks were a poor substitute for real M&H racing slicks. The real slicks work because of the flexible sidewalls.
Quote from: John Palmer on 2019-05-09 21:30
They were just "recaps". They had the local tire shop grind off all of the original carcass rubber, then they wrapped the new rubber around the tire, it looked like a continuous rubber band. Then it went into the tire mold which had a minimum number of grooves (usually two to four) and then it went into the vulcanizer to melt it all together. The minimum grooves were to make them "street legal".
The last set of recap slicks I had were maybe 30 years ago and were made by Caldwell Tire in Pasadena, CA., before they closed up.
The recap slicks were a poor substitute for real M&H racing slicks. The real slicks work because of the flexible sidewalls.
I didn't know M & H was in business at the time these photos were taken. The pic looks like it was from early 50's.
I understand why "real" slicks work...I just remember guys talking about shaving their street tires down to where the grooves were pretty much gone...using them at thew tracks for 2-3 passes and then having to get new tires. Thought that was what I was looking at here.
We shaved street tires for our road race cars as well. This was before the "sticky" tires were common. Shaving down to the wear bars gave a good day of track time before they were gone. Bought blems, cheaper then what was on the shelf. The full tread depth allowed a bunch of tread "squirm" and made the car feel greasy. Shaving them eliminated that greasy feel and let the car plant solid.
SPEED SHOP
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Haha..sign of the times..........I thought the guy in orange was looking at his cell phone, but wait..............
Supposedly 1 of 4
A 4-door hardtop wagon? Can't say I've ever seen one.
40 years ago I had a 4 door hardtop LTD. Fairly rare car also.
Seems like I've seen some Buicks and Olds, but never a Ford. Wonder about the 1 of 4........was that from Ford or aftermarket? I also am curious about how the glass is set up on the rear doors with that chrome piece at the back edge.
Off topic, but my '05 Outback wagon has a unique setup. There are the regular pillars on the body, but the doors are hardtop style.
That looks a lot like Swedish license plates on the 60 4dr wagon and it appears to have the typical 4drht (town sedan) stubby 'c posts' on the rear doors, necessary to make the rear side glass fully retractable. on earlier 4dhts (1956) the rear doors overlapped by at least 4" to cope with that.
The Swedes are reknown in Europe as the 'East Coast' Custom scene. They would build strange and crazy Kustoms and oddly shaped 'coachbuild' American cars even in the 1960s and 70s. it appears as if the rear roof portion came from a 61 to 64 wagon?!
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-05-11 09:25
Supposedly 1 of 4
an og 60 wgn has a totally different tailgate design, a friend of mine owns one ( not this one).
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27 T roadster powered by a blown 37 Cord V8 by Lycoming who ran the engine backwards to get the rear drive to work
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-05-11 18:43
27 T roadster powered by a blown 37 Cord V8 by Lycoming who ran the engine backwards to get the rear drive to work
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BACKWARDS?!?!?! Hey...now that's kinda sorta like me! LOL!!! :smtree2:
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-05-11 13:47
... 60 wgn has a totally different tailgate design ...
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Am I alone in disliking the 1960 Ford tail lights? I always liked the big round Ford tail lights.
Maybe something like these 61 style tail lights could have worked.
But I just couldn't get a big light to work on the left side with this wagon pic. Crop! :003:
How 'bout some ovaled out to big enough 1962 style lights like I photo stuck on the '60 Starr'.
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Richmond, IN.
Back in the early 60's the owner of the garage I worked for was a former sportscar racer (Jaguars).
He told me they shaved the treads down for their road course races.
I've been going to the drags since 1962, most local racers back then had recap slicks. They cost between $35-50/pair then. Most any tire shop could recap them.
One of the local (Wash,DC) area tire guys sold his "Big Bobs Indy Widetracks" recaps for years. West coast guys had "Bruce Slicks" back then.
Racers started radically dropping air pressure and screwing the tires to the rims in 1964. Wrinklewall slicks followed the next season.
M&H has been in business since the 50's. Marv Rifchin got rich selling slicks.
Ron.
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A '37 and a '57
This should count as an old Ford pic :002:
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1970 Steve McQueen at Sebring hanging out with Carroll Shelby
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-05-13 15:48
This should count as an old Ford pic :002:
1970 Steve McQueen at Sebring hanging out with Carroll Shelby
Indeed! Nice shot!
Thanks, here's another along with a pretty interesting letter from him.
"Whenever Steve traveled, it was always with a six-pack of beer in a cooler." Steve had bought his 57 Ford pickup from a migrant farm worker, and acquired a number of vehicles in similar circumstances, flagging down the driver for an on-the-spot roadside deal. -Barbara McQueen.
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-05-13 18:14
Thanks, here's another along with a pretty interesting letter from him.
"Whenever Steve traveled, it was always with a six-pack of beer in a cooler." Steve had bought his 57 Ford pickup from a migrant farm worker, and acquired a number of vehicles in similar circumstances, flagging down the driver for an on-the-spot roadside deal. -Barbara McQueen.
I remember the Manson days well. I was not too far away from where Sharon Tate and others were killed that night. I was in boarding school, and the morning the bodies were found, the school was put under lock-down and the gates were locked up...day and night until law enforcement was certain they had everyone in custody.
I'm guessing he had a right to feel a little concerned. Hairy days those were!
Here comes your '56
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A graduation present bought by the graduate himself $125 in 1967
Can anyone read or know the license plate state on that Falcon? I'm wondering if the ferry is old time Lido Isle/Newport Bch., Ca.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-05-15 13:02
Can anyone read or know the license plate state on that Falcon? I'm wondering if the ferry is old time Lido Isle/Newport Bch., Ca.
Car ferry at Tumbulgum, northern New South Wales, Australia , in September 1966. Std Model XK Falcon ,1961.
1954 Mercury Monterey XM-800 Concept Car picture 1
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1930 Ford Sprint Car. 201 CI, 3-Speed
Ha! Something strange in their last pic with something that doesn't belong there on the right outside away from the car & the chopped off shock lever.
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Quote from: Tom S on 2019-05-15 16:04
1930 Ford Sprint Car. 201 CI, 3-Speed
Ha! Something strange in their last pic with something that doesn't belong there on the right outside away from the car & the chopped off shock lever.
Not sure what you're seeing, except a quick look is like what you described. A closer look shows the ("something that doesn't belong there"?) exhaust blocking the view of the shock lever making it look cut off.
Top down running
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-05-16 06:03
Not sure what you're seeing, except a quick look is like what you described. A closer look shows the ("something that doesn't belong there"?) exhaust blocking the view of the shock lever making it look cut off.
Yes! Thanks, Rich, you're right. Funny how our eyes can sometimes play tricks on us.
Maybe I was fooled a little by the reflection in the pipe that showed that light color that doesn't really exist quite like that on the car plus the end of the pipe blending in to the tire.
Thought that maybe part of another pic had accidentally been pasted over the original pic.
I guess it was kinda an "obstacle illusion". :003:
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A few trucks
^^^^ NOW THAT IS COOL! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
First thought that came to my mind was "Wonder how many of those trucks became hot rods eventually?"
Nice pic!
Joe, can you explain this , please !
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-05-17 05:15
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I thought it looked like an early Ford dealership. What are you thinking?
what about the Asian letters on top of the entrance ? I don't know if these are Japanese, Chinese, Malayan or similar.
the rider of the bicycle seems to be using the right lane, so possibly not Left Lane traffic as would be used in Japan. I think I remember an old photo from the late 1930s that depicts a Lincoln/Mercury/Ford dealership in Tokyo,Jpn. which is highly interesting, considering what followed shortly after. Same goes for the European theatre. I believe the German Ford factories were not strafed until very, very late in the war.
Getting real service !
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-05-18 03:55
Joe, can you explain this , please !
This photo was from the Life Magazine from or on the The United States Taiwan Defense Command listed as a Ford Garage 1949. The United States Taiwan Defense Command was a sub-unified command which reported directly to the Commander-in-Chief Pacific (CINCPAC). The command was composed of personnel from all branches of the U.S. armed forces and had its headquarters in Taipei.
It looks like it also says Mercury on the top left of the building's wall which makes me think it is a dealership.
Thanks Joe!
very interesting ! thx.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-05-18 05:46
... the rider of the bicycle seems to be using the right lane, so possibly not Left Lane traffic as would be used in Japan....
On a different board a while back there was a pic alleged to be taken in Japan. The drivers were driving in the left lane.
Since I'd been in Okinawa & riding motorcycles there in 1969 & like most of the world everybody drove in the right lane I questioned the authenticity of the location.
I was surprised to learn that at some point the Japanese had switched to left lane driving.
Was in Taiwan
very briefly in 1968 & they drove in the right lane.
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Ford trucks
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Brand new '53
Ford dealership
1955. Didn't realize there were digital clocks and thermometers when I was in the eighth grade.
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NICE! So Joe...don't know where you find all these old pics of Fords...but I sure like them! Especially the old race car pics! As one who shoots cars a lot, and has shot some race pics, I really like seeing other guys work. Thanks for the time it takes to find them all man! :003: :burnout:
My pleasure, I surf a lot and when I stumble across something I like, I save them to a folder. Just glad someone else enjoys them too.
Another picture Proudly Ruined by Photobucket
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Silver anniversary
Ditto to you too Dave. first thing I look for in the morning is the pics you and Joe have put up. :burnout: :003: :burnout: Thanks!
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-05-22 08:05
Silver anniversary
This past weekend was one of our vintage camper trailer outings.
The vintage trailer parked next to me, was being towed by "a restored" 1937 Ford Woody. They look pretty small compared to our 57 Ranch Wagon.
I know this guy with his wagon in a wagon & can see why he doesn't look happy.
X 2 for Dave :038:
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Thanks guys, I look forward to your pics !
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Immediate Delivery !
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'59 wagon
Skyliner
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-05-25 05:52
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They still have one of those at Vancouver shipyards for the employees. There cars parked during the day would get covered in sawdust so quick rinse after your shift and your good to go.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-05-26 08:04
Both are pretty impressive..car and string of fish! LOL!!!
My first car and our family dog "Tippie"
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In the parade
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Quote from: hemidave on 2019-05-28 07:50
In the parade
Looks alot like Hank Snow on the right. Not sure but is that Hank Williams on the left?
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-05-28 19:18
Looks alot like Hank Snow on the right. Not sure but is that Hank Williams on the left?
Nope. Hank Williams died 1-1-53...3 months before I was born.
The 56 Mark II was shipped in a special carrier. The cars were bagged in fleece-lined sacks that were suppose to protect them
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WOW, great pic Joe ! ^^^
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-05-29 05:15
The 56 Mark II was shipped in a special carrier. The cars were bagged in fleece-lined sacks that were suppose to protect them
Wouldn't you like to have one of those "bags" today? They would make a nice car cover. Thanks for the pic. Another unique one!
Thanks guys. :003:
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390/401hp
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-05-29 18:47
Thanks guys. :003:
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Was there an Elvis Presley movie with a Daytona coupe in it? I seem to remember a women stuck in a ditch with one, and the king happens along of coarse to help her out and later watch me sing in a club. Maybe Spin out?
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-05-30 20:15
Was there an Elvis Presley movie with a Daytona coupe in it? I seem to remember a women stuck in a ditch with one, and the king happens along of coarse to help her out and later watch me sing in a club. Maybe Spin out?
Not a Daytona. It was CSX 3012...a Shelby Cobra. He was run off the road, off a bridge actually, by Shelly Fabre (sp) and the car he was driving was the Cobra.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/539235755355545884/
Hope this was what you were thinking of. :burnout:
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'56 Lincoln
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-05-30 21:01
Not a Daytona. It was CSX 3012...a Shelby Cobra. He was run off the road, off a bridge actually, by Shelly Fabre (sp) and the car he was driving was the Cobra.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/539235755355545884/
Hope this was what you were thinking of. :burnout:
I'm losing my marbles, it wasnt even an Elvis movie although the Daytona Cobra was in a ditch......Redline 7000 was the movie.
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C cab
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-05-31 10:06
I'm losing my marbles, it wasnt even an Elvis movie although the Daytona Cobra was in a ditch......Redline 7000 was the movie.
LOL!!! I lost mine years ago. Welcome to the club of the marble-less!
Don't think I have ever seen that movie. I'll have to search it out.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-05-31 10:06
I'm losing my marbles, it wasnt even an Elvis movie although the Daytona Cobra was in a ditch......Redline 7000 was the movie.
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This is one of the six Daytonas built; after CSX2601 was featured in Red Line 7000 in 1965, it was purchased by its driver Bob Bondurant, who later sold it in 1969. The car sold for $7.25 million on August 15, 2009, and it is currently owned by Perez Companc family from Argentina
Here is Bob with CSX2601
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EEK! Anyone have a package of hot dogs?
Looks like things got a bit warm!!
'58 Sunliner
sorry guys no old pics, but today at the local cruise a '68 V8 Ranchero showed up. I thought it was a phenomenal car. white and blue metallic interior. as good as it gets. anyone has a cool old pic ?
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-06-01 16:44
They REALLY used the word "afterbirth" in an ad? LOL!!! Oh how they would get castigated for that today! How times have changed!
Nice car though...my favorite wheels!
I kinda thought the opposite.....wouldn't surprise me today, but for the 60's??? "Bathe in..." kind of a disgusting thought. Maybe they meant "glow". Beautiful car and legs though.
'68 models probably came out Aug. 67. which they say, was the summer of love. so who knows... :003:
I believe I never saw a 68 Ranchero in the flesh before. so yesterday was really delighted by that smart and shapely Intermediate, right down to the Fairlane badges on the door panels, Ranchero bullhead on the B posts and frameless HT style door glass. even had blue tint on all glass, matching the metallic blue oem interior. sweet !
'57 Ford owners are very popular !!
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-06-02 12:18
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I recognize that pic. :(
It was taken just before things went very bad and became 'The battle of the overpass'.
https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/battle-of-the-overpass-henry-ford-the-uaw-and-the-power-of-the-press/
"Photo: UAW organizer Walter Reuther poses for a picture for Detroit News photographer Scotty Kilpatrick, moments before Henry Ford's right-hand man Harry Bennett, with around 40 thugs, ambushes and beats Reuther. Wikipedia (CC)"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Overpass
Yes, 82 years ago last Sunday. This is the article I had: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-the-ford-motor-company-won-a-battle-and-lost-ground-45814533/
Perfect, all the stuff for a picnic, and driving a '56 Sunliner !
A little bit of that wild turkey and it'll be time for skinny dipping. I've got two of those metal lawn chairs on my front porch, and they're originals, not repops.That's some kind of portable radio! Pre-6 transistor days
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A nice '57
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'57 Sunliner
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'56 Sunliner
I have always liked that shade of blue. Nice car!
'58 Sunliner
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great 62 !
also loving the T bird pic and my alltime favorite plane, ole Connie ! does it say Cape town /South African Airways ? the license plate on the bird is strange as well. I am currently rebuilding a 34 Ford that came from SA. RHD.
DJ, this is all I know about that picture:
Titled: "Goodbye": Waving before departure of a Super Constellation of South African Airways at Zurich Airport, date unknown.
Proud new owner
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Summer fun
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'57
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405 HP
Now I want the rest of that car + the engine ! :003:
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-06-11 15:37
Now I want the rest of that car + the engine ! :003:
Me too! :burnout:
Actually...I have 2 406 tri-powers...and 3 390 blocks...2 of which are complete engines. I also have a set of 7 forged thirty-over pistons (8th was destroyed along with it's rod in another block) and set of forged rods, crank and a solid lifter 406 cam with lifters and push-rods. Get the car...we can have some fun!!!
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Good old flatheads
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-06-11 15:37
Now I want the rest of that car + the engine ! :003:
Even though it was just part of an old roundy-round racer I wanted it too. Decades ago I found a large partly fenced piece of property nearby that had a lot of cars & parts laying around. There was the body of a '33/'34 coupe that went with the hood. It looked to be in very good condition. Didn't seem to anyone living there at the time but if there was I was never able to find them.
A few years later I see that '33/'34 bod going down the hill on the back of a flatbed truck. Bummer!
The property had been completely cleared out to make room for a new high school.
That hood was left left laying on the ground at the edge of the property. Naturally I drug it home like I've done with nearly every other abandoned piece of metal I'd run across.
That hood is kind of a piece of history that's been gone from this town for a long time.
But I've still got my 406 powered '31/'32 Roadster & I'll never let it go! (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/nono.gif)
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VALLEY FORD SALES
Always liked Hi-Railers, don't know what make this one is?
Pictures my dad took, early 50's near Bonneville I believe.
WOW, I wonder what's going on there ^^^
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-06-13 11:24
WOW, I wonder what's going on there ^^^
Dunno...but she sure looks happy about it what ever it was. Can't tell what sheriff's dept it was. I never had a woman grace my patrol car like that! Darn it! LOL!!!
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-06-13 11:24
WOW, I wonder what's going on there ^^^
Maybe she just talked her way out of a ticket :003:
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-06-13 12:13
Maybe she just talked her way out of a ticket :003:
Talked? Eh.... :laughing4:
Damn it Mom, you got to stop speeding.
E code for sure!
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Well, I actually went a few months before I had to play moderator. Gotta delete the pic as much as I like it. Rules a' rules.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-06-13 16:58
Well, I actually went a few months before I had to play moderator. Gotta delete the pic as much as I like it. Rules a' rules.
It's the pits having to be the adult in the room isn't i? :violent1: :toothy9: :blob10:
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-06-13 16:58
Well, I actually went a few months before I had to play moderator. Gotta delete the pic as much as I like it. Rules a' rules.
I completely understand, I knew I was on the edge :003: I just couldn't pass up a pix of a 57.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-06-13 16:58
Well, I actually went a few months before I had to play moderator. Gotta delete the pic as much as I like it. Rules a' rules.
That just makes me want to see the pic all the more.
Maybe 'Highball' Jim will send it to me. (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/brows.gif)
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-06-13 19:46
I completely understand, I knew I was on the edge :003: I just couldn't pass up a pix of a 57.
And we who saw and enjoyed it...are all the better for it! :003: Thanks!
Yes , Thanks, I can still see it in my mind! ^^
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-06-13 21:18
That just makes me want to see the pic all the more.
Maybe 'Highball' Jim will send it to me. (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/brows.gif)
PM me your Email address and I'll send you a copy.
Back story: I asked the group of morning coffee guys I hang out with to send me any pictures of 57s they happen to see and thats what showed up in my mail one day..
'58 Sunliner
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-06-14 08:23
PM me your Email address and I'll send you a copy.
PM sent! :001:
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Nice '55
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HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm...I'm guessing #10 was wishing he had holes drilled in that hood... :laughing9:
Check it out !
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how could they drive them that hard with a solid rear axle ? frt. pssgr wheel in the air.
Seems I recall they had IRS. My ERA 427SC replica has a Jag IRS.
A Volkswagen if you don't mind, and there's a 57 in the pic as well :003:
(https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1917319.jpg)
An edited version a '57 Ford pic that was deleted ... for some strange reason. :002:
She sure looks proud and happy standing there in the street. Wish I knew the story behind this pic.
I sent this back to the guy that posted the unedited version but he wouldn't post this one.
Said he was in enough trouble already. (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/lol.gif)
ps: I am not the sheriff here, just used the badge pic for our purposes.
Quote from: Lgcustom on 2019-06-17 16:09
Seems I recall they had IRS. My ERA 427SC replica has a Jag IRS.
Cobra had IRS with a Salisbury 4HU (Dana) center housing like Jaguar. The reason they tended to lift the wheels while cornering I think was because of the ladder style tubular chassis. The small-block cars used 3" tubes while the 427's used 4" rails.
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In this 1955 pic, kids from NY/NJ were picked up at the closest VT RR station in this truck and driven to summer camp in VT.
Another pic of how things have changed over the years and kinda sneaked up on us without thinking about it. Nowadays if a truckload of kids like that was going down the road, the driver would probably end up in jail for endangering minors.
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1959! The 50 won this race, C Gas because it was an old FBI Interceptor car. Ugly as hell but would beat all the local flatheads. Next race was a 322 nailhead powered 49 Merc. It beat me easily starting in 2nd gear, broke 1st earlier.
Honolulu
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Joe! I want the Falcon Sedan Delivery! :003:
Lol, me too! Honestly, I'd take any car in that picture, even the bow tie.
I want one !!
EEK! Dave...imagine what that thing would be worth today! There is a car museum in Murdo South Dakota I believe it is, and he has several of the small pedal cars. Don't remember if he has one of the '57 Ford or not. I should check my picks and see.
I went through that place a few years ago. Kinda amazing. Don't remember seeing any 57 Ford pedal cars in their collection. Really cool place with a nice souvenir shop! You need to schedule a full day there to walk through never mind looking and studding all the stuff in multiple buildings!
I went through last fall on my way back home from Branson MO> Was only there for about 2 hours. Saw only the main building and souvenir shop. Met the old man who owns it and his daughter. Bought a Mustang sweatshirt and a couple of clocks.
I agree...that place would indeed be an all day sucker for a museum lover. Hope to go again when I can spend a day there. I am a car museum addict. Most people I know HATE going to any museum with me, because I DO read everything. I admit it, and warn them ahead of time...yet...they still get exasperated with me. LOL!!!
http://www.jrcentral.com/
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Oh...I did NOT need to see that! LOL!!! My wife would have my head if I bought that! Funny...it cost more for that pedal car today...than the original car did back in '58. YIKES!
Thanks Joe!
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-06-20 17:50
Oh...I did NOT need to see that! LOL!!! My wife would have my head if I bought that! Funny...it cost more for that pedal car today...than the original car did back in '58. YIKES!
Thanks Joe!
You're welcome; did you notice that ad was over 4 years old, lol?
That is just crazy! As a man once said, "there's a seat for every butt".
FLAT ROCK SPEEDWAY
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-06-21 05:14
You're welcome; did you notice that ad was over 4 years old, lol?
No...I did not. Probably a good thing! hehehehehe! :003:
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Oldie but goodie...
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Okay Joe...I give up. What is it? Or was it a custom built car by someone? Kind of looks like a pair truck front ends put together? Am I close?
They are actually Brazilian Fords; I think they started building them in '57-present. I have a few pics of some different vehicles...looks kinda cool with the suicide doors..
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-06-21 20:00
They are actually Brazilian Fords; I think they started building them in '57-present. I have a few pics of some different vehicles...looks kinda cool with the suicide doors..
Yea...okay...I see it now with the other 2 pics. Kinda like...they are so ugly...they're nice to look at. Wonder if any survived? Would be interesting to have one today. Thanks for the info sir.
No problem, here's a few more...
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Anybody have a '57 with a 130 mph speedometer ?
Thanks Joe! Versatile rigs!
Dave...Nice speedometer...both of mine only go to 120.
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USED CARS
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Dan Gurney/Bob Johnson Shelby Cobra roadster #CSX2259 after a terrible accident at Sebring in 1964
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at the beginning of the race:
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With less than an hour to go, Johnson slams into an Alfa Romeo in the pits causing a fire badly burning the Alfa driver
ACTUAL VIDEO FOOTAGE https://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/4888274744 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/4888274744)
Nice wagon
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Showcasing the new '49s
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-06-25 06:46
Showcasing the new '49s
'49? What '49? She was a beauty! Kind of a risque` ad for those days! :003:
(https://i.imgur.com/1zoziCj.jpg)
A gorgeous 1949 Station Wagon !
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Black
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-06-26 18:05
Black
SUUUUWEEEEETTTT! I like! :toothy9: :burnout:
Superchargers
Joe
Picture # 2011 is cool. Just think that in those days they didn't have a paved parking lot. The 4 dr. watchamacallet that 's parked out front is not that pretty though. Jay
Thanks Jay
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'58 Sunliner
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1964
Cool pic.....Talk about a blind intersection! The pic looks like it is in the country, but Newton upper falls, Newton, and Newtonville are next to Waltham, Mass. (suburbs of Boston) where I lived when I was a kid. My dad use to work in a machine shop in Newtonville when I was about 10. It was about 10-12 miles from our house, and a few times I rode my bike there to have lunch with him in the summertime.
Last year a Hamb member posted a pic of his car next to a river. I recognized the river as the Charles, and the cemetery across the river as the one where my mom and dad are buried on the hillside/riverbank overlooking the Waltham Watch Factory. That was where my dad did his Machine apprenticeship.
I've been told they have done a wonderful job of converting the huge factory to modern offices, resteraunts,boutiques, etc.
The Newtons are not to far from the old famous Normbega (sp?)Amusement Park where we use to go as a kid. Joe, and Jay probably went there also.
Railroad: New York, New Haven & Hartford Railroad
Locomotive: EMD SW1200
Location: Newton Upper Falls, Massachusetts, USA
Locomotive #: NH 654
Train ID: Probably BX5 or BX6 From Framingham
Photo Date: November, 1964
Posted by TomRiker on January 27, 2008
"Station and track still survive today, to the best of my knowledge Bay Colony RR still uses this line to deliver plastic pellet cars to a company in Newton, and i believe the station is now a coffee shop."
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Great info on the railroad pic Joe! These were the good old days !!!
more good old days
Plentywood Montana.
Pioneer Garage
1952
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IMHO, this about as cool as it ever gets with a 57 (Fairlane) Kustom.
the spaced out taillight chrome bezels give the illusion of tunneled taillights. Incredibly simple but effective idea.
loving the panel paint/scallops along the fins.
(https://up.picr.de/36160333ce.jpg)
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-07-02 04:33
IMHO, this about as cool as it ever gets with a 57 (Fairlane) Kustom.
the spaced out taillight chrome bezels give the illusion of tunneled taillights. Incredibly simple but effective idea.
loving the panel paint/scallops along the fins.
So...wonder where you can find such a thing? I agree with you 100%...I have never seen them before...but I would like to see them again...on mine I think. (yea...I know...copy cat...but been awhile since he did it...and probably isn't even around anymore to see me steal his idea! LOL!!!)
That '28/'29 roadster in post 2030 is a beaut. The bodywork reminds me of some of the fast & fine looking roadsters I saw at Bonneville in 1979 & 1981. I took hundreds of slide pix at those two Speedweeks. I need to get them converted to digital pix.
Caption: "He rebuilt his first car, a 1934 Ford Coupe, which he bought at the age of 13 for $75 and raced it in the Mojave desert, reports the New York Times. Here, the part-time fireman racked up a course record of 148 miles per hour."
Nice Sunliner !
no big issue Hugh. you would just need a second set of taillight lenses to cut the outer reflector ring from and bring that out level to the ridge on the taillight lense. some plastic spacers and longer screws will now fasten the reflector ring and chrome ring further out.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-07-02 04:46
So...wonder where you can find such a thing? I agree with you 100%...I have never seen them before...but I would like to see them again...on mine I think. (yea...I know...copy cat...but been awhile since he did it...and probably isn't even around anymore to see me steal his idea! LOL!!!)
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-07-02 13:31
no big issue Hugh. you would just need a second set of taillight lenses to cut the outer reflector ring from and bring that out level to the ridge on the taillight lense. some plastic spacers and longer screws will now fasten the reflector ring and chrome ring further out.
I can't really tell from the pic but I thought it was just that the chrome ring was spaced out from the lens.
You could probably space the ring out with some polished stainless tubing & long screws. I have found repo chrome rings on ebay. They don't fit original lenses unless they came with the chrome rings but will fit at least one repo lens. Don't know exactly what or where that lens came from though. Might be able to find where I got it on ebay if anyone cares.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-07-02 13:31
no big issue Hugh. you would just need a second set of taillight lenses to cut the outer reflector ring from and bring that out level to the ridge on the taillight lense. some plastic spacers and longer screws will now fasten the reflector ring and chrome ring further out.
Okay..I have some extra lenses...and a couple of broken rings extra as well. I wil experiment and see how that works. Thanks for the tip sir!
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-07-03 02:25
I can't really tell from the pic but I thought it was just that the chrome ring was spaced out from the lens.
You could probably space the ring out with some polished stainless tubing & long screws. I have found repo chrome rings on ebay. They don't fit original lenses unless they came with the chrome rings but will fit at least one repo lens. Don't know exactly what or where that lens came from though. Might be able to find where I got it on ebay if anyone cares.
Tom...I would be interested in a lead if you have one. I think I am going to experiment a bit. Thanks for then lead. Between your idea and Gunther's...I am sure I can replicate it. Thank you sir.
November 1964
In this world of specialized vehicles for everything I miss the old days of one of a kind home builts :003:
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Just when you thought you've seen everything, a Messerschmidt body with a Chrysler hemi. I like the power to weight ratio.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-07-03 20:27
Just when you thought you've seen everything, a Messerschmidt body with a Chrysler hemi. I like the power to weight ratio.
I wonder if that was a 3 wheel version originally?
Happy 4TH OF JULY !!
A Happy and safe 4th to all.
Does anyone know about this one or possibly a member here?
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-07-04 11:23
A Happy and safe 4th to all.
Does anyone know about this one or possibly a member here?
A very well done cut down/graft job of a station wagon and Ranchero? I am not aware of a 4-door Ranchero having been considered even, let alone built. Looks like a classy bit of craftsmanship though.
Lucky they had a full frame and not a unibody for a project like that. Door gaps look pretty good on it.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-07-04 16:43
Lucky they had a full frame and not a unibody for a project like that. Door gaps look pretty good on it.
True enough. Trying to do that with a uni-body would be a nightmare to say the least. Looks really nice. I sure wouldn't mind driving it.
I believe to remember that at some point a member said they built this car back in 199*? surely a one-off. looks good.
Nice '57
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-07-04 17:06
I believe to remember that at some point a member said they built this car back in 199*? surely a one-off. looks good.
You may be thinking of this one? Not sure if it is the same car but it has the same wagon roof so very possible.
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-07-05 08:59
You may be thinking of this one? Not sure if it is the same car but it has the same wagon roof so very possible.
So...this pic you just put up has 2 gas tank doors...the other one only has one. Same car in 2 different eras...or are there a couple of them out there?
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Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-07-05 13:14
So...this pic you just put up has 2 gas tank doors...the other one only has one. Same car in 2 different eras...or are there a couple of them out there?
Good catch, I missed that. I'm just guessing same car different era or owner?
Supercharged
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-07-05 16:19
Good catch, I missed that. I'm just guessing same car different era or owner?
Would have to be the same car I would think. What are the odds there would be more than one? Sure wish we knew more about it. It certainly is a well done mod job to be sure.
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Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-07-06 12:19... What are the odds there would be more than one? ...
I don't think the odds are all that bad.
I'm fairly certain that these pix were posted here 4 or 5 years ago.
In the tunnel
Have to wonder how that pic was taken. No selfie sticks back then.
I'm really liking that T-bird version. Not the Edsel so much...maybe just that yellow being a bit much..
I don't know if a color change helps :003:
Wow that t-bird is really slick, as is the green edsel. I don't think it's the color that hurts the yellow one. These things just look better as 2-seaters.
Looks like a Kentucky Antique tag on the Edsel version. Never heard of it nor seen it, but it looks like a very good conversion. Anyone know where it is located?
Quote from: KYBlueOval on 2019-07-07 11:44
Looks like a Kentucky Antique tag on the Edsel version. Never heard of it nor seen it, but it looks like a very good conversion. Anyone know where it is located?
It does have that plate but I don't know anything about the car.
I Googled "Charlie Kiser Tax Service", and that photo was taken in Grayson Ky., which is in far Eastern Ky., in the mountains. Well done car,with attention to detail.
I saw a "Edsel Ranchero" several years ago here in Louisville when the Edsel Owners Meet was held here. That car was black and had T'bird bucket seats and console. Could be the same car........maybe.
'57 Sunliner
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1958
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-07-09 07:25
1958
Not sure I would want to take that car to Afghanistan today...not for a test drive or any other kind of drive! LOL!!! My how times have changed. Think...back in '58 most people had probably no idea where Afghanistan was or anything else about it.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-07-09 12:30
Not sure I would want to take that car to Afghanistan today...not for a test drive or any other kind of drive! LOL!!! My how times have changed. Think...back in '58 most people had probably no idea where Afghanistan was or anything else about it.
Hey, in2019 most people don't know where Afghanistan is, or Viet Nam for that matter. Most likely they can't find their own home state on a map......a bunch of college students interviewed didn't know what the 1st Amendment is. Real education has now been replaced with courses in advanced basket weaving.....
Off my soap box now:<)
Some kind of Air Stream convention?
Michigan State Police
The previous picture gave me a flash-back to getting a free ride to the Detroit Federal building. The Michigan State troopers escorted guys in chains. After they were sworn in, the troopers chains came off and the MPs chains went on with a gentle reminder 'you're Army property now...your ass is mine' as they were escorted out to the buses headed to Fort Knox.
Quote from: Ford Blue blood on 2019-07-10 06:59
Hey, in2019 most people don't know where Afghanistan is, or Viet Nam for that matter. Most likely they can't find their own home state on a map......a bunch of college students interviewed didn't know what the 1st Amendment is. Real education has now been replaced with courses in advanced basket weaving.....
Off my soap box now:<)
True enough sadly. My son is 26 and still complains about not learning much in high school because it just wasn't taught. He has said more than once that he learned more about things like American history and the Civil War from me than he ever learned in school. That...is a sad state of affairs to say the least.
Hey, what are you doing on that '57 Ford !
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-07-11 07:33
Hey, what are you doing on that '57 Ford !
Sure couldn't have one, let alone both of them standing on the hood of one of today's tin cans! Be needing a new front clip!
Tin cans is what my father called cars of the 1950s, he was head of Packard parts here in Connecticut from late 1920s to the early 1940s.
Quote from: Lou on 2019-07-11 20:30
Tin cans is what my father called cars of the 1950s, he was head of Packard parts here in Connecticut from late 1920s to the early 1940s.
Ah..Packards! Those were some sweet cars! And yea...they had serious metal in them too! LOL!!!
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Fast wagon
Just the facts ma'am.
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Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-07-10 09:07
Some kind of Air Stream convention?
The founder of Airstream Wally Byram put together a extended trailer rally/caravan that traveled all the way to La Paz the tip of South America. I believe this was done in the late 1950's. I would bet that's where this photo was taken, and was likely in some very deserted area without passable roads. I wonder why all of the auto and trailer windows were open, maybe they stayed inside the autos and trailers while they were in transit?
It's a pretty cool photo with the '57 Fords.
'55 Sunliner
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Daytona Beach 1957...
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PIGGLY WIGGLY
Top down fun !
1954 Mercury Monterey XM-800 Concept Car
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-07-15 15:57
1954 Mercury Monterey XM-800 Concept Car
Oh my! Rather ostentatious looking thing! BUT...imagine what it would be worth today were it still around! YIKES! :005:
It is still around. An acquaintance of mine restored it and sold it, don't remember how much it went for but it was a sizable number.
Good...most of those concept cars were crushed. I would like to see it (and other concept cars). Have always though they were neat to look at. Samples of how the designers "flexed" their brains if you will.
Like this one for instance. I shot this in Nashville in '04 When we went to the 45th Anniversary show for the Mustang.
these cars were actual test beds for mechanical and design ideas.
Boys, take a close look at the 1954 Mercury concept car. we can see a lot of ideas that made it into prouction later:
1955 T bird hood scoop
1957 Lincoln hooded headlights
1957 Mercury grille layout
1960 Starliner rear roof line (c posts)
1957 Ford wraparound windshield and chrome trim
It is still around, look at the vehicle in the background as well as the booths. That picture was taken at the 2012 Chicago Auto Show.
SUNLINER
If someone is giving those 54 Mercurys, I'll take one.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-07-16 03:24
these cars were actual test beds for mechanical and design ideas.
Boys, take a close look at the 1954 Mercury concept car. we can see a lot of ideas that made it into prouction later:
1955 T bird hood scoop
1957 Lincoln hooded headlights
1957 Mercury grille layout
1960 Starliner rear roof line (c posts)
1957 Ford wraparound windshield and chrome trim
Also, the rear reminds me of the Studebaker hawk's trunk.
I think GM got some stying cues from that car as well..........front fenders and hood shape reminiscent of Buick Riviera 63-65(?), those big bullets ended up on Caddies. Aside from the Starliner roof shape, the roof trim also looks like what ended up on 55-6 Crown Vics.
FORD TRUCKS
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-07-16 14:00
I think GM got some stying cues from that car as well..........front fenders and hood shape reminiscent of Buick Riviera 63-65(?), those big bullets ended up on Caddies. Aside from the Starliner roof shape, the roof trim also looks like what ended up on 55-6 Crown Vics.
I told Tom when he started that the car was "handsome". He said it was interesting......funny thing, most all of the exterior chrome is fiberglass that has been chrome plated.
USED CARS
The relatively new battery and Castrol GTX sign really doesn't fit with the cars on the lot.
I would think it fits. Had to be an era after those cars could be bought everywhere for 50-200, but before prices got reaaly high on solid drivers.........maybe 80's or early 90's?
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Stroppe-built Baja Edsel added to Off-Road Motorsports Hall of Fame display
Dave...I would GLADLY pay those posted prices today for any or all of the three cars in that pic! LOL!!!
Rich...I would agree with you...those signs are early 70's. I can remember seeing cars of that vintage at around those prices back in '70-'73...and my having to settle for what I could afford...a '56 Chevy 4-door station-wagon. :-[ For which I paid $65.00!
Watch out for the cub
Thunderbolt convention......
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Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-07-19 21:06
Thunderbolt convention......
There is a guy between Sequim and Port Angeles here in WA who has what I have to believe is a replica T-Bolt...he leaves it his barn unlocked...both barn and car year round. I have never seen it on the street, but I have seen it in the barn. Looks great. I would LOVE to get my hands on it!
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It is quite nice to look at.....the car that is!
Assembly line
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RADAR INTERCEPTOR
Interesting, I don't notice many two door police cars.
MA STATE POLICE
Ha, but that's a three door.
WARD AND FRED
Love those duals !
Beautiful Sunliner
'61s
CobraJoe where are you...?.
A couple of '57s
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-07-27 10:33
CobraJoe where are you...?.
Sorry guys, was over in Truro for a week on vacation.
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Is that the original McDonald's in Downey, Calif.?
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-07-28 11:58
Sorry guys, was over in Truro for a week on vacation.
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Joe, I lived in N. Truro when I worked for the Cape Cod National Seashore in the summer of '65 ! I hope you had a good time.
Sure did, we rent a cottage in North Truro across from East Harbour every year. I live on a peninsula and the ocean is at the end of my road, but it doesn't compare to the Truro beaches. I know it's off subject, but here's a couple of pics of the beaches, my kids, some whales off of Stellwagen and the view from our cottage and a public service announcement at ALL THE BEACHES:
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-07-28 11:58
Sorry guys, was over in Truro for a week on vacation.
How dare you have a life outside of providing us with pics each day of old Fords! Sheesh! What NERVE! :003:
(glad you had fun! Pay attention...CLOSE attention to that warning sign!!!)
My bad. Back on track...
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:002:
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-07-28 12:54
Is that the original McDonald's in Downey, Calif.?
Not sure, I was unable to find any info on that picture.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-07-29 05:04
My bad. Back on track...
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:002:
I'm always amazed at how much effort people put into ruining such great cars :005: I know, I should probably keep my thoughts to myself but sometimes I can't :burnout:
Hmmmmm.lowered, skirts, lakepipes, and dummy spots. Classic major mods for my neighborhood back in the 60's. So,....it's gotta be those tacky LED headlights, right?
Love the car, but I'd rather have it without all the above mentioned. That model needs a california rake.
Like something you would see running up and down Whittier Blvd. Of coarse Mexicans tend to favor Chevys, but there's always exceptions I guess.
Assembly line
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-07-29 09:59
Like something you would see running up and down Whittier Blvd. Of coarse Mexicans tend to favor Chevys, but there's always exceptions I guess.
Exactly, but at least he didn't follow the crowd an build another Chevy..
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Nice pics today Joe. Thanks! Must be nice to know you were missed eh? LOL!!! You always find some interesting ones! :003:
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-07-29 15:36
Nice pics today Joe. Thanks! Must be nice to know you were missed eh? LOL!!! You always find some interesting ones! :003:
Thanks, very much appreciated.
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Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-07-29 06:38I'm always amazed at how much effort people put into ruining such great cars :005: I know, I should probably keep my thoughts to myself but sometimes I can't :burnout:
I'm with ya! Nix on the skirts, dummy pipes and spotlights & the tail draggin' rake. Probably runnin' little undersized wheels & tires too. : (
Tbird
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-07-30 07:15
Tbird
Oh hell yes! Sure has been a change in times hasn't there? Can you imagine that ad being thought of today? Let alone actually published? LOL!!! I miss the good ol' days! :003:
A gift from a town to their doctor
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the old ford photos are a real treat. I look forward to logging on and these photos are my first click!
Thanks for sharing/posting them. I even liked the Galaxy that had bad reviews, I'd take it off their hands in a heartbeat and enjoy the hell out of it, as is or a few items removed, LOL.
Better on the road as photographed than in a field with trees and rust growing through it.
I love all of the photos. Very enjoyable seeing them.
Thanks, as always, very much appreciated.
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Jim
I'm with you on what you said.
I'm not going to write what we called cars in the old days that had too
much so called dress up stuff bolted and screwed onto them. Jay
Quote from: Wirenut on 2019-07-31 18:02
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the old ford photos are a real treat. I look forward to logging on and these photos are my first click!
Thanks for sharing/posting them. I even liked the Galaxy that had bad reviews, I'd take it off their hands in a heartbeat and enjoy the hell out of it, as is or a few items removed, LOL.
Better on the road as photographed than in a field with trees and rust growing through it.
I love all of the photos. Very enjoyable seeing them.
I agree 100%! Any Ford driving down the road is better than one sitting in some scrap yard or a farmers field and reduced to Swiss Cheese by kids with .22's. You can always change what you don't like about one after you buy it.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-07-31 18:23
Thanks, as always, very much appreciated.
Joe...saw a few Comets this weekend in Puyallup at the Good Guys show. (Outside of Tacoma about 20 miles east) Two were for sale...and they wanted a LOT more than $2168.00 for them! LOL!!! A WHOLE LOT more! :burnout:
yes I want the sweet 64 Comet Villager wagon to the left of the dealership!
If not available I would also do away with that Sunbeam Tiger parked at the curbs. 260SBF/4spd powered !
I'll take a Marauder and a Caliente for the wife :003:
VALLEY FORD
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Ford Mainline; Australian version
Thunderbolt Thursday.....
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Getting rid of some weight before racing.....
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NICE.......'57
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Proud owner
Maybe not too proud, looks like he's got something going on with that front wheel.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-08-04 10:38
Maybe not too proud, looks like he's got something going on with that front wheel.
Hopefully it was still under Warranty?
August 1960
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Glad to see the site up and running again !
Went and saw "Once upon a time in Hollywood" the other night (fantastic show BTW) and they had a recreation of the Spahn ranch movie set. Sitting in there was a very restorable looking 57 Del Rio. I guess one could contact Columbia pictures if interested and own a real movie car. :003:
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Quote from: hemidave on 2019-08-08 11:56
Glad to see the site up and running again !
Odd to see a 57 with paint dividers a soild color. Looks to be a brand new car with a 56 plate decal on it.
yes but it appears to have 1959 Ford wheelcovers ?! and there is a 58 Che** in the background.
Mum probably went to the local Ford dealership and when asked what car she wanted she probably said : 'I want a red one !' :003:
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-08-08 12:11
Went and saw "Once upon a time in Hollywood" the other night (fantastic show BTW) and they had a recreation of the Spahn ranch movie set. Sitting in there was a very restorable looking 57 Del Rio. I guess one could contact Columbia pictures if interested and own a real movie car. :003:
That looks like the current movie ranch in the Santa Susana pass which was in the same area as the Spahn Ranch. I'm not 100% sure but I think the Spahn Ranch was originally Corriganville movie ranch, lots of old westerns filmed there. I see movie cars all the time moving around on car carriers, some owned by the companies and some leased..
I like black/white
I have a Louisiana license plate just like that one on my car!
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So...from the "this is gonna kill you" file...
A friend of mine found the wooden buck used to build the Daytona siting in a guy's yard in Arizona near Bisbee. tried for years to buy it...to no avail. Eventually the guy died...and the buck, and all the rest of his strange collectibles...were hauled off to the dump by his ignorant son.
Several of the people who worked on the AC Cobra and Daytona projects live near me and are friends with my buddy...one lives in the Seattle area. I have met one who lives in Sequim WA, but his name is not coming to my mind right now. Hearing him talk about those days with Shelby...make me feel like a kid again.
Alan Grant lives in the Sequim area too...but he is...well...not the guy you would want in your home if you were gone and your wife was home alone. Still think of himself as the lust of all females. He has pretty much burned all his bridges in the area where we live...and I nearly went to work for him at one time. My buddy warned me off of that...and given how things turned out, glad he did.
Thanks for the pic Joe...brought to mind some of the things I have heard. Good memories. You always find good pics...and then some like this one...excellent pics to add some spice now and then! Gratzi!
Thanks; kinda of hard to picture him as "god's gift to women" now...
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...Hell, even then, for that matter.
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This car ran at Riverside Speedway, a place I visited many times as a kid.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-08-10 05:40
Thanks; kinda of hard to picture him as "god's gift to women" now...
...Hell, even then, for that matter.
Ego...it is massive...I was only around him 3-4 times...that was enough. My friend Bob has been around him a lot more.
I only went once to the track in Agawam, Ma (Riverside) but spent many Saturday nights at Danbury, and a few at West Haven, CT. I still think nothing beats the sound of a flathead with open exhausts turning 5 grand in second gear.
That looks like a big ole lump of Y block iron. thunderbird special !
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-08-10 07:47
This car ran at Riverside Speedway, a place I visited many times as a kid.
Parade
41St Anchorage Show & Shine, 8-4-2019
More Show & Shine
Fancy '56 Merc.
And since it is just too cool I just gotta throw in the non-Ford pic of an all original 'Crosley Special' racer. It does have some old Fords parts hidden in it.
I have lust in my heart...for that retractable! SWEET! :003:
Always was a fan of Pikes Peak
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A '57 arriving in SF
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Ah...a timely pic. It is 97 here in Branson...and that pic cooled me off some! Thanks Joe! :003:
KGW
Oh No !
OUCH! :-[
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'58 Sunliner
Ghost Rider.............https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2klh2cTa_Q........!!! cool pic..3 57-58's and one of my favorite old time singers
Enjoying the warm weather
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Downtown Vegas?
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-08-16 17:51
Downtown Vegas?
What made you think that? I don't see any casino signs. I was thinking somewhere in CA I see what I think is a CA plate on the brand x next to the Falcon Ranchero.
Vegas would be 1/2 full of cars with Ca plates at any given time. The tallest building- @ center- I believe if I squint hard enough it says 4 Queens, and the hotel on it's right says Plaza. I thought maybe the checkered one to the right of the Plaza said Frontier, but that would be on the wrong side of the road.
Could also be Reno.....
This "swinging" photo says Mr. B's Bag on Fremont Street. Thats what the building on the left side of the photo says. Pretty groovy bunch there.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-08-16 22:55
Vegas would be 1/2 full of cars with Ca plates at any given time. The tallest building- @ center- I believe if I squint hard enough it says 4 Queens, and the hotel on it's right says Plaza. I thought maybe the checkered one to the right of the Plaza said Frontier, but that would be on the wrong side of the road.
Yea...right on the Queens and Plaza...not sure about the Frontier. Guess it is Vegas. You get a free Kewpie doll! :003:
Fremont maybe on the one on the right? Possibly???
I'll have 1 or 2
Downtown Las Vegas, 1972. Fremont St approaching 5th. Mr. B?s to the left, Woolworth's to the right.
Four Queens. Las Vegas, 1970.
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Thanks Joe! You 'da man! :crowd:
You are very welcome my friend... :003:
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Thanks for cooling me down Joe ^^
My pleasure Dave
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OOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...look at all the Couriers! Be still my beating heart! :001:
another SD and look how many smart teams ran Fords and Mercs, I sure miss those days.
That is a fine looking Courier indeed!
And I am with you...miss those Ford dominated racing days. Along with some other things from days gone by! Thanks for the Courier pic...think I will save and keep that one.
Take note that the 57 Courier has a station wagon tailgate.
I opened it in my windows picture viewer...and enlarged it. Looks like a standard Courier gate...but it is hard to see because of the lighting on the pic...there are quarter windows in the upper 1/2 of the gate.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-08-18 13:17
My pleasure Dave
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I assume that these came with the "T" bar in the grille........if that is correct,its been removed from all four of them.
yes, the pharmacy SD has a std delivery gate. the upper hinges are clearly visible. ( wgn hinges for upper gate are hidden inside)
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-08-18 21:36
I opened it in my windows picture viewer...and enlarged it. Looks like a standard Courier gate...but it is hard to see because of the lighting on the pic...there are quarter windows in the upper 1/2 of the gate.
I'll take a convertible !
I was looking at the glass, I could not see the side glass it looked like a one piece glass, my brain is too old to remember about the outside hinges.
Excuse me while I go wipe the egg off my face.
Quote from: Lou on 2019-08-19 21:41
I was looking at the glass, I could not see the side glass it looked like a one piece glass, my brain is too old to remember about the outside hinges.
Excuse me while I go wipe the egg off my face.
Egg? What egg? None of here is perfect in our knowledge...well..maybe Gunther...but he is a youngster compared to most of us! A whippersnapper! :003:
ID Chart
Classy poster Dave! :003:
Thanks, it's nice to compare some of the small differences in the early years.
November 19, 1959: End of the line.
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The last Edsel to be built, a tan station wagon, rolls off the Ford Motor Company assembly line in Louisville, Ky.
New '59s
Going on vacation
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1953
'55
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It was low 40's here this am, that pic reminds me what's coming ^^ 7 Mile Bridge below
Did anybody else see the 1957 Ford wheelcovers with custom flipper ? so the 52/53 (?) obviously rolls on 14s. interesting modification.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-08-26 05:11
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-08-26 16:35
Did anybody else see the 1957 Ford wheelcovers with custom flipper ? so the 52/53 (?) obviously rolls on 14s. interesting modification.
G, I believe that's a 52. the 53's had a solid bar with a retangular park light lens. I noted the 3 bar flippers but missed that they weren't on fiesta, 57 olds, caps. You have great attention to detail!
Quote from: terry_208 on 2019-08-26 18:22
G, I believe that's a 52. the 53's had a solid bar with a retangular park light lens. ...
I was thinkin' '54, but you are correct, it is a '52.
I can't keep them '52 thru '54s straight. (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/Doanno.gif)
There's a pic of a '53 SD just 11 posts back. http://57fordsforever.com/smf/index.php?topic=7503.msg71510#msg71510
A good lookin' '52 here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Ford#/media/File:1952_Ford_Crestline_Victoria.jpg
Enjoying a top down ride !
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WOW! fifteen cent burgers! I think I feel old now!!! :003:
Hurry up, I'm hungry !
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Station wagon conversion
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Going on vacation
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Early RV campers pose for a photo on Christmas Day, 1920, in Desoto Park, Florida, about a year after the first Tin Can Tourists assembly. The group's ethos-an incongruous mixture of escapism and orderliness-inspired American auto campers to load up their Model T's and drive along freshly paved roads, searching for scenic spots to camp.
STATE ARCHIVES OF FLORIDA, FLORIDA MEMORY
Road trip
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A group of dapper campers share a watermelon on the National Mall in Washington, D.C., circa 1921. The Ford Model T was built with size in mind. According to Henry Ford, the pioneering design was large enough for the family, but small enough for the individual to run and care for. The built-in trunk-a first for automobiles at the time allowed tents, cots, and other gear to share space with a family on long road trips. NATIONAL PHOTO COMPANY COLLECTION / LIBRARY OF CONGRESS PRINTS AND PHOTOGRAPHS DIVISION, 2016823765
These 20's camping pics are fascinating. I wonder about the verbage in the last photo though......"trunk", heh? maybe the trunk, as in old time name for suitcase, is what's on the running board.
I wonder what the story behind the gent's cut off tie. Brings back a vague memory of seeing someone get their tie cut off on their last day of work before retirement.
The usage of the word "trunk" comes from it being the word for a large travelling chest, as such trunks were often attached to the vehicle before the development of integrated storage compartments in the 1930's.
I don't believe this was Ford based, maybe someone can share some info.
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When it came to modifying camper vans, the Tin Can Tourists pulled out all the stops. This house car from 1929, belonging to Harriett Warren, Flora Kavanaugh, and Westel Ashe, all of Brattleboro, Vermont was nicknamed ?Harriett.? Cars like these were common sights at Tin Can Tourist campsites. As RV camping grew more popular, auto shows became more frequent, and campers began to trick out their cars and buses to impress other group members.
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Cars, trailers, and recreational vehicles stipple the grounds in Arcadia, Florida, during the 12th annual Tin Can Tourists convention, in 1931. The group?s meetings were a boon to local economies, leading cities to compete with one another for the right to play host each year.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-09-01 07:33
These 20's camping pics are fascinating. I wonder about the verbage in the last photo though......"trunk", heh? maybe the trunk, as in old time name for suitcase, is what's on the running board.
I wonder what the story behind the gent's cut off tie. Brings back a vague memory of seeing someone get their tie cut off on their last day of work before retirement.
That tie looks like it could also be an untied bow-tie, perhaps he came to the party right from work and just "relaxed" his tie for the evening.
Wow, that "5th wheel" setup on the A coupe is the cat's meow!! I wonder if any of those rigs survived. Almost makes me want an A
Posing for a pic
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Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-09-01 14:42
Wow, that "5th wheel" setup on the A coupe is the cat's meow!! I wonder if any of those rigs survived. Almost makes me want an A
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The "Glenn Curtiss Aero Coupler" consisted of a tire and wheel mounted horizontally to the trunk floor of a passenger coupe or to a specially designed tow vehicle.
The tire is inflated to absorb lateral, longitudinal and vertical road shocks. The trailer's goose neck kingpin slips into the wheel's bearing journal where an axle would normally fit. Thus was invented the fifth wheel trailer hitch.
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wow thats crazy !!!!
let's get these guys in here. I just love them !
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T with the modern trailer..........not exactly what I had in mind, lol. That was funny.
Great info on the fifth wheel. I always wondered why they called them that. Thanks Joe
How those guys kept a straight face??
Quote from: fdlrc on 2019-09-01 19:45
How those guys kept a straight face??
The shot we see may well have been the 7-8-9-10th shot of that sequence. So by then...the humor would have worn off. If it was a one-take shot...then I too would be wondering how they did it with a straight face!
I think it is part of their great humor. Most times when things like that accident happen in the plot, Stan doesn't even really notice what went wrong and puts on his clueless and dumb face. While Ollie tries to play it cool, only to break out in anger a few seconds later. Poor Stan, who unwittingly caused the trouble is going to take some beating again soon.... :002: :003:
on a side note, it was Stan Laurel who wrote most all of the film plots and gags. obviously a very smart and humorous person.
I can honestly say I grew up with them. I must have seen the T Model scene at age 5 or so. or even earlier. they were on kids TV shows frequently in the 1970s.
The Beach Boys didn't enshrine "woodie" station wagons into surf culture for another 15 years, putting these campers in 1949 well ahead of the curve. American car culture exploded in the years after the Tin Can Tourists formed. In fact, a straight line can be drawn from the early days of outrigging Model T's for comfort and style to the hot-rod subculture of the mid-20th century.
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Joe...European distributor?
Wonder what one of those wooden crates would be worth today? I have several wooden whiskey cases from when my grandmother owned a liquor store in the late 40's/early 50's. Family lore is I slept in one of them when I was a mere papoose! :003:
I believe it's France
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Wish I could post a video.
What a view
Thanks Joe.
My pleasure.
FROM HEMMINGS:
Ford's answer to the Beetle could have been a flip-front mid-engine turbine-powered death trap.
Daniel Strohl on Aug 30th, 2019
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The Volkswagen Beetle, as we all know by now, sent shock waves through the U.S. auto industry. Sure, imports had come and gone in the past, but they were usually considered outliers- cars for enthusiasts, immigrants, and crackpots-that hardly garnered any market share. And Ford's initial response is worth examining because it illustrates how little some in the U.S. auto industry really understood the Beetle's appeal.
While GM eventually responded with the Corvair, Rambler with the American, and Chrysler, Ford apparently did take notice of the little rounded air-cooled, rear-engine car as early as 1957, according to Jim and Cheryl Farrell's Ford Design Department Concept and Showcars, 1932-1961.
The growing sales success of the Volkswagen was not lost on Ford's engineers and designers, some of whom had foreseen the reason for the Volkswagen's popularity, even before Ford's market research people did. Robert McNamara liked the Volkswagen, and encouraged efforts by Ford's engineers and designers to develop a similar car.
Ford's engineers and designers weren't averse to trying out any number of automotive configurations in the Fifties, and the task of finding a suitable counter punch to the Beetle fell to Earle MacPherson and Gil Spear's Special Vehicles Department, founded in May 1955. Specifically, it fell to Norm Nebozenko, Doug Miller, Bud Ward, and Jack Mills, who proposed the Midshipman, a smallish four- or five-seat forward-control sedan with plenty of unique features.
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To begin with, one entered the Midshipman via a sort of clamshell door, hinged like a hood just under the split A-pillar. Spear had proposed a similar entry system- which he called the Strato-Door- on the Bimini, another Special Vehicles Department design, claiming that it facilitated entry into the car by allowing passengers and the driver to walk in and out of the car. To make entry somewhat easier, the Midshipman's designers had the steering wheel and part of the column rotate upwards as the door opened and then back down into driving position as the door closed.
Because I appear to be the first person to write about this car in the meme era, I'm going to make the obligatory om nom nom reference.
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In addition to the clam shell door, the Midshipman's designers also included a conventional side door for the rear seat passengers and a tailgate and what amounts to a tonneau cover for access to the rear storage area, expertly foreseeing how pickup owners treat their beds like oversized trunks 60-some years later. And to make the tonneau cover hinge forward enough to permit access to the drivetrain, they designed the backlite to hinge upwards too. The designers were obviously very certain of Ford?s ability to craft a quality hinge.
Speaking of the drivetrain, the full-size design sketches of the Midshipman show it in a mid-engine configuration with what appears to be a water-cooled straight-six laid horizontally and an air-cooled opposed-six, but the Farrell's note that the designers intended to cover pretty much every base with the Midshipman.
It was designed-as a front or rear-engined, front or rear-wheel-drive car, with an engine, transmission and drive unit that could be easily removed and replaced with a loaner, while the dealer made repairs to the driver's unit. The Midshipman was so versatile that, in addition to being set up for both front and rear-wheel-drive, it was planned for either reciprocating or gas-turbine engines and for air and water-cooled engines.
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It progressed as far as the aforementioned full-scale drawings and a 3/8-scale clay model before Ford dissolved the Special Vehicles Department in 1958.
While we want to like the idea of a mid-engine turbine-powered Ford competitor to the Beetle and will definitely bring one back should we ever encounter a production Midshipman while traversing the multiverse, the design had so many safety red flags that it likely would have drawn all of Ralph Nader's ire and given the Corvair a pass. To begin with, kiss everything south of the torso goodbye in a front-end collision. Even Martin Carl Fischer would've been horrified. While still on the topic of that door, sure it might've worked in ideal situations, but rollovers, low-overhead garages, and the inevitable need-to-bail-because-the-car-is-on-fire-and-we-lost-the-brakes-and-we're-headed-for-a-cliff situation would prove disastrous.
Handling, based on the proposed cabin weight distribution, independent rear suspension, and forward-control driving position: Not impossible to design well, but the challenge would be to design it well at a price-point to compete with the Beetle.
Fuel tank location, right underneath your rear-seat passengers and just in front of a gas-turbine engine: Just remember to pack some marshmallows for the inevitable flambe.
We're also not sure if the designers anticipated anybody would ever need to open a window. Though they did include window cranks in their drawings, so maybe?
Whatever the Midshipman's drawbacks, its designers appear to have misunderstood all but one aspect of the Beetle's appeal-its serviceability. They completely whiffed on its simplicity, on its inexpensiveness, and on its anti-status charm (fins? really?) by creating an overly complex, overly styled reach of a vehicle. Instead, it seemed, they were focused on quirk, on alternative drivetrain layouts, and on segment-busting while Volkswagen owners-at least in those initial years- just wanted a well-built and affordable car without all the frou-frou of contemporary American cars.
So, in a sense, the car that Ford did eventually produce to counter the Beetle-the Falcon- was not only the Midshipman's polar opposite in many respects, it was also much better aligned with the typical Beetle customer.
SIDEBAR: It's entirely conceivable that Ford's Special Vehicles Department might have baselined the NAMI Belka, a Russian vehicle from 1956 that also had the odd combination of flip-front and conventional doors.
SIDEBAR 2: While Renault didn't include a flip-front on its Ghia-bodied 1959 Project 900, the vehicle's cab-forward, long-decklid profile is rather similar to the Midshipman and NAMI Belka.
The Falcon was a much better looking car than the concept car. And light years better looking than the VW. On top of that, unlike the VW, the Falcon not only led the way, but never got IN the way. VW's then couldn't get out of their own way...let alone anyone else's.
Good story too Joe. Thanks...again! :003:
That's an interesting story about that concept car. I think those were the years, when just everything seemed possible and American Auto industry just took on everything they could come to think of. Dearborn often had to come up with several different concepts so that managment would have some choices.
with all that talk about compact cars, lets not forget the German built Ford Taunus P4. whats that you ask ?
never sold to the USA, but it was designed in Dearborn as the Cardinal in the late 50s, even before the Falcon. it is much closer to beetle dimensions and milage figures with a 1,2 litre V4 cyl ( 40hp), front drive and 30+ mpg fuel consumption. After the Falcons introduction to the domestic market, the ideas and concepts of the Cardinal were handed over to the German Cologne plant and they built 670.000 P4 Taunus from 62 to 66....not a bad figure compared to the beetle sales ! so THIS is the real Dearborn compact !!! it was like decades ahead with its FWD and front mounted V4.
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yes the drive unit was bolted to the car like that. all in one.
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Plenty of Ford products
'58 options
Early radar equipment
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-09-06 07:06
Early radar equipment
You beat me to it, saw it on the truck forum this morning.
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Where is this beauty now ?
TEXACO
Daytona 1947
it's incredible to think that a 39 Ford ( or 40 Std) was only 8 ( 7) years old then...
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1963
January 1960
Looks like a 59 grill in that 57.
Quote from: 57chero on 2019-09-11 20:28
Looks like a 59 grill in that 57.
Indeed it does. Missed that earlier. Good catch! :003:
Quote from: 57chero on 2019-09-11 20:28
Looks like a 59 grill in that 57.
And '56 pickup headlight trim.
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-09-12 02:56
And '56 pickup headlight trim.
I can't even make out the trim! You have better eyes than I! LOL!!!
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-09-12 03:02
I can't even make out the trim! You have better eyes than I! LOL!!!
I didn't notice those headlight rims or the '59 grille at first but after the mention the grille I took a harder look at the pic.
My eyes aren't the best & never will be what they once were but after the cataract surgery I had done on both eyes two years ago they're 100% better than they were. Wow! Should have had that done years before but I just didn't know. It was getting a bit iffy when driving. I still need a lot of light or reading glasses to read a newspaper.
March, 1976, 'Home at last' ... into snow. : (
Watch out !
Dave, the pic with the 34/36 and 59 grilled 57 is incredibly cool ! I did not know or think that this had been done before. my 57 Del Rio.
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-09-12 03:39
My eyes aren't the best & never will be what they once were but after the cataract surgery I had done on both eyes two years ago they're 100% better than they were. Wow! Should have had that done years before but I just didn't know.
March, 1976, 'Home at last' ... into snow. : (
I need to go and do that as well...friends who have had it done swear it is the best thing they have ever done. Some still don't wear glasses to this day over a decade after having it done. My doc says I won't need to either. It is just me...getting p[ast the idea of having someone mess with my peepers...sends shiver down my back. Gonna try and get it done before the first of the year though.
Don't mess around with your eyes, I've been having major problems since 94. Now I'm down to about 2/3s left in my right eye. I still drive but have to pick my days. I'm not afraid of the dark but I know it is going to change my world a bunch. I make the best of every day, still work on my beloved 57's but at a much slower pace. Take care, Alvin
Quote from: alvin stadel on 2019-09-12 21:05
Don't mess around with your eyes, I've been having major problems since 94. Now I'm down to about 2/3s left in my right eye. I still drive but have to pick my days. I'm not afraid of the dark but I know it is going to change my world a bunch. I make the best of every day, still work on my beloved 57's but at a much slower pace. Take care, Alvin
You are right Alvin. I will go and do it, might start the process next week in fact. I am just nervous about it. I have never had any sort of surgery other than stitches in my long life. (66+ years) and so it is a bit disconcerting. I am just now getting to a point inn my life where I will no longer have ANY responsibilities other than to my cars...so I need to get things straightened out and begin to enjoy what was put aside for over 40 years.
Gunther and I have been talking about my bringing my Courier over to his neck of the woods in a a few years and doing some driving together...so I need to get things rolling...both figuratively and literally! :003:
Take care sir...and thanks! Hugh
P.S. Where is Columbus MT? I pass through often between WA and MO on I-90...
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-09-12 20:18
I need to go and do that as well...
If you're saying that you should have cataract surgery look up Pacific Cataract and Laser Institute.
They have places fairly close to you & others here claimed that they were the best.
As I understand it they send a team up here from somewhere in Washington state to their clinic here about once a month.
I understand that your reluctance to have your eyes messed with. It was the same for me.
You wont feel a thing while the surgery is being done.
I kept waiting for the surgeon to open my eye lid that they had taped shut after giving me the local anesthetic. Of course he had to do that but I never felt it. Ha! All of it was an interesting experience.
I'm not sure who paid for all this. Maybe part of it was paid by my union retirement health insurance & the rest by medicare but I don't think I paid over about $45. Can't beat that!
In just a few hours you can see the results. Literally! :003:
After both eyes were done it felt like having a new lease on life.
Obligatory 'Old Ford' pic.
With an ex-girlfriend about 25 years ago.
I have heard of them quite often. I will ask the doc about them. My wife works for the local PD so the insurance is pretty decent. Another reason to get it done soon...she is looking to pull the pin in March or so. Thanks for the info.
Nice looker! Car is sweet too!!! :003:
This little beauty belongs to a friend...though art some point it will be mine. Still has a flathead in it as well. This was shot after I put two new water pumps in it and front engine mounts.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-09-13 00:27
Nice looker! Car is sweet too!!! :003:
She was real cute but the Roadster worked much better than the GF. It's a keeper & much easier to modify too! :002:
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-09-13 00:44
She was real cute but the Roadster worked much better than the GF. It's a keeper & much easier to modify too! :002:
LOL!!! Yea...aren't they all?!?!?! And when you get tired of listening...you just turn the key...and QUIET reigns! :003:
'58
'57
Gotta love the guy washing down what might be a gas leak, with a hose from a fire truck, and a cig in his mouth.
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-09-11 08:58
January 1960
My birthday,... literally :003:
Quote from: fdlrc on 2019-09-14 11:42
Gotta love the guy washing down what might be a gas leak, with a hose from a fire truck, and a cig in his mouth.
Oh hell! I missed the cig! Good catch! I was focused on the fact that he didn't appear to be a firefighter, yet he was the one doing the wash-down.Could have been a much bigger event! LOL!!!
I really like this list of "given away" cars in 1964. The war was on!
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That list is a "Who's, Who's" of 1960's racers.
Look at all of the 1964 High Riser Thunderbolt's.
They must of had all of the donated NASCAR cars on another list. Holman Moody, Woods Brothers, etc.
I'll bet if Ford had them all back today and sold them, their stock price would improve.
'57
Family pickup
Nice '59
A happy time
'57
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Glad to see you back Joe, I always enjoy your pics ! ^^^
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-09-19 19:01
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I've never understood why we didn't get those Utes in the USA.
Here's one that no manufacturer ever built but it sure looks good to me.
"I've never understood why we didn't get those Utes in the USA."
We did, they were called Rancheros.
Quote from: Lou on 2019-09-20 13:45We did, they were called Rancheros.
Not before 1957 & not since 1979. : (
I have three Rancheros.
1964 Ford Custom. Only if I had the room..............
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Quote from: Tom S on 2019-09-20 13:02
I've never understood why we didn't get those Utes in the USA.
Here's one that no manufacturer ever built but it sure looks good to me.
I would drive that all day every day! Looks like a very well done job too! Nice pic!
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-09-20 16:16
Not before 1957 & not since 1979. : (
I have three Rancheros.
I am JEALOUS! I want a Ranchero! One of these days. (not like I need anymore projects. LOL!!! already have two Couriers 3 Mustangs and a '50 Dodge P/U to finish!)
I love the 36 Ute. I had heard of parts, cab and quarters, of one that was possibly for sale when I was down under in the early 90's but had no way to get it back to Hawaii. I had to give up on the idea!
S A C
Nice flathead
Scene from the movie "LOLITA"
Speaking of 57s in movies, was that a 57 that they sank in the movie Psycho?
Part way through the movie Marion Crane trades her 1956 Mainline for a 1957 Custom 300.
Yes, Norman dumped the 57 in the swamp.
Thanks Dave
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Nice '57
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Okay...so...the barn burned to the ground...but they saved the cars! WHEW! That is the message...kinda funny!
Thanks Joe! Welcome back sir. :006:
poor barn !
We have to admit that the Mercury fastback is a much underrated design again. Don't think I have ever seen one in person, but man, this is just a beautiful car !!!
Thanks guys; ads where kinda "different" back in the day...
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A couple of '57s here
And a Falcon...and a Galaxie as well. Good pic!
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Nice family pic
Two beauties
Nice Dave! Indeed sweet rolling stock!
Brrrrrrr
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I wonder what's hanging on the wagon? I love that Caddy.....the perfect 50's icon.
I bet that's a bag for extra water for desert running ^^^
Yep, desert bag. my dad use to hang ours in front of the grill.
When I cleaned out my parents place a couple years ago I found 2 of those water bags, had to throw both away as they were falling apart. I remember when they used them and the water always was cool, even on a very hot day.
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that last pic is just hard on the edge for this forum, Joe ! :002:
:116:
I'm interested !
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SOLD! I will take delivery as soon as you can get it here! LOL!!!
Brock actually lives in the Seattle area now, and Gordon Chance, who was one of his mechanics in the day, lives here in Sequim about 15 miles from me. He is a character...I love listening to him talk about the things he did with Shelby and company.
Closest I came was a replica Coupe, $12,500 for a 7+ million dollar car is a good deal, lol
Factory Five makes a killer one...and a really good Cobra as well. I went to their build school in MI back in '06, was going to set up a shop and build and sell them. Then the economy crashed, so I never did.
Now I am in the middle of moving to Missouri, so not happening now either. But I still would like to do that. They are well made cars that sure can make a grin freeze onto your mug in a hurry! I would like to go to their plant in MA one of these days.
I should call that number and ask if the car is still for sale! LOL!!!
Mark & Dave Smith are nice guys, although Dave owns FFR by himself now. They are 15 minutes down the road from me, so if you ever head out this way, let me know.
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390 powered ?
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-10-01 05:10
Mark & Dave Smith are nice guys, although Dave owns FFR by himself now. They are 15 minutes down the road from me, so if you ever head out this way, let me know.
I knew that Dave had bought Mark out...some time ago if memory serves.
And I most definitely would let you know I am coming. We could take our 57's out and thrill the town! LOL!!! Thanks.
Funny you say that; Dave sent me a text last summer saying we had to get together as he had bought his son a '66 Fairlane.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-10-01 16:19
Funny you say that; Dave sent me a text last summer saying we had to get together as he had bought his son a '66 Fairlane.
Sweet car! Hope you took him up on the request! I be jealous to not have that sort of proximity! LOL!!!
I once told Steve Saleen I was going to pack up my toolbox and equipment and come work for him, and he looked at me without batting an eye and said..."okay...". I learned to be careful what I say to whom! hehehehe!
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'60 Sunliner
That there is pretty funny and a few people in the crowd thought the same. :005:
They claimed that these things were so hard to handle on the dragstrip once the front wheels were unloaded, that you didn't drive the car, you basically pointed the car in the direction you wanted it to go. If you look at the pics of Tony Stoer's CSX2019 AC Cobra, (one of only eight cars modified with the Shelby-developed Dragonsnake package, 5 by Shelby, 3 privately) you will notice that driver is not listed on the door, but "Aimer" instead.
"Shelby provided a Cobra, with the stipulation that the work and racing had to be done by the employees on their own time and with minimal support from Shelby. CSX2019 was modified extensively for quarter-mile use. With Stoer at the wheel, it set the AHRA A/SSP record with a 12.81 at 108.95 mph run. The Dragonsnake package was born, and it became a factory option."
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Aimer.... I guess that there really was something to that when they said that you have to aim them. It took me a while to think about picture 2355 until I caught onto it.
B/G
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2 dr wagon
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How much will this 68 Mustang bring at the Meccum auction in January? I'm sure somebody out there would like to own a piece of film history.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-10-04 21:46
How much will this 68 Mustang bring at the Meccum auction in January? I'm sure somebody out there would like to own a piece of film history.
As much as Jay Leno is willing to pay? LOL!!!
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Fueling up
Interesting rear antenna location, don't see that often.
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That trunk lid mounted antenna was I fairly common option here in the Northeast. It's on page 20 of the 1957 Ford & Thunderbird Accessories Book.
Quote from: fdlrc on 2019-10-05 14:54
Interesting rear antenna location, don't see that often.
CB antenna probably.
That was in fact a dealer installed item. The mirrors and antennas were in the trunk and the dealer did the install. The electrical portion of the repair manuals has the template and locating info for the trunk mount.
My Edsel books have templates for dual rear fender mounted antennas. Those antennas are VERY expensive (NOS only, popped not available) because the base has a slant to keep them pointed straight up while the Ford antennas are flat on the base.
Fall is here
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-10-06 07:35
Fall is here
Somebody forgot to tell "Mother Nature" of the fact here in Alabama!
Oh NO
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NY 1949 According to Google Map, the Corset shop is still there !
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This kids father was a boat builder, so he constructed this motorized unit instead of a go kart for his son.
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-10-08 07:12
NY 1949 According to Google Map, the Corset shop is still there !
There are women out there who STILL wear one of those things? I am surprised!
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Opposite paint schemes. How cool is that.
'35
I'll make that SOB pull over... :003:
I have come to love 35s though, they are about the next most underrated Fords ever. Of course it's hard to compete against a '34 and '36....but hey, one of these days I might want to have a thirty five.... they are awesome. especially the rdstr, convertible and 2dr slantback sdn. They make beautiful early Customs.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-10-10 13:03
I have come to love 35s though, they are about the next most underrated Fords ever. Of course it's hard to compete against a '34 and '36....but hey, one of these days I might want to have a thirty five.... they are awesome. especially the rdstr, convertible and 2dr slantback sdn. They make beautiful early Customs.
I like them ALL! If I had the $$$ and the time...I would happily build one of each...and drive them a LOT!!!
(https://i.imgur.com/x1X6fCc.jpg)
NYST
May 1958
I'm guessing on this one...
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Quote from: hemidave on 2019-10-12 07:36
May 1958
Dave...In MAY??? UGH! Where I wonder?
Joe...Nice lookin' car...and popular with the kids in the day I bet too! No m ore neighborhood deliveries these days.
PIC 1 -- early AM going to the master blaster
PIC 2 -- same afternoon home from the blaster
PIC 3 -- fresh wheels and tires
(https://i.imgur.com/b9TCyKL.jpg)
Quote from: gasman826 on 2019-10-12 23:13
PIC 1 -- early AM going to the master blaster
PIC 2 -- same afternoon home from the blaster
PIC 3 -- fresh wheels and tires
Looks like someone will be busy this winter. Beats sitting around watching the snow pile up eh?
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1960 Sunliner
Joe...wish I could find one of those accessories today...since I plan on using the Courier as a travel car and cruising the entire U.S. that could come in handy! :003:
Hugh, you need to get ahold of the 2 Ford booklets 'Ford Station Wagon Living' Part#1 and #2.
I believer the red 56 Ford wgn pic is from that first book, which was published 1957. naturally it is mostly 56 Fords in that one. ( red cover book). Book #2 (blue cover book) is from 58 and has mostly 57 Ford wgns in it.
these are totally awesome and a must have period collectable for every Ford wagon ( and Delivery) owner !
pics from the internet, I have both with decent sleeves.
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Gunther...I will search the net for them. Hopefully they won't be too hard to locate. Thanks for the tip! :006: :003:
'64
24 Hours of Le Mans 1967. Don Frey and Carroll Shelby at the end of the race...
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My how young the two of them look! Must have been taken before the race that day...'cause after the race there would have been ear to ear grins on both faces! :003:
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-10-14 16:19
Hugh, you need to get ahold of the 2 Ford booklets 'Ford Station Wagon Living' Part#1 and #2.
I believer the red 56 Ford wgn pic is from that first book, which was published 1957. naturally it is mostly 56 Fords in that one. ( red cover book). Book #2 (blue cover book) is from 58 and has mostly 57 Ford wgns in it.
these are totally awesome and a must have period collectable for every Ford wagon ( and Delivery) owner !
Found Volume II on Amazon...haven't located #I yet. Still looking.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-10-15 17:08
Found Volume II on Amazon...haven't located #I yet. Still looking.
https://www.amazon.com/Ford-Treasury-Station-Wagon-Living/dp/B000GS6APU
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-10-15 16:42
My how young the two of them look! Must have been taken before the race that day...'cause after the race there would have been ear to ear grins on both faces! :003:
How about this one:
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Carroll Shelby, center, drivers Ken Miles, left, and Lloyd Ruby, right, Leo Beebe, head of Ford's racing programs, and Shelby American's Ford liaison, Ray Geddes, far right, after winning Daytona 1965. It was the first win for the GT 40
The last pic looks like they were happier...but still...seems like they would have been a lot more excited about the end results of that race, since if memory serves...they took 1st 3 places. Although...they were probably bushed by then too! Knowing Shelby...he probably was awake the entire race. And Frey as well.
Good pics! Thanks!
Checked out the book you found...one review said that it was a high speed scan/copy. I will keep looking to see if I can find an original hard copy. Thanks for the link though. The newer hard copies didn't look any better. I imagine finding an original may take some time and patience! (patience? what?!)
Check with the literature dealers that advertise in Hemmings. That book is worth about $20.00 used in hard cover, in like new condition.
Quote from: Lou on 2019-10-15 23:42
Check with the literature dealers that advertise in Hemmings. That book is worth about $20.00 used in hard cover, in like new condition.
Thanks Lou...I will do that.
DOLE
Wasn't me. I it had been, I woulda picked two + cash. T-bird and the Lincoln I think That vintage Lincoln was ugly as sin back then, but now I love them. Nothing more representative of the bigger is better era.
Carroll Shelby and driver Phil Hill at Le Mans, 1965
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Assembling Robert Mitchums '57 for "THUNDER ROAD"
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Joe...I want the pale blue one in the middle. Ship it to me please! :burnout:
like the old advertising
'54s
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Nice '57
I always wonder who owned my '39 years ago......
1964 Ford GT Prototype; 289 engine
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Top down, snow tires on ...
and '39s are yet another underrated Ford model year.... they are just too beautiful, especially convertibles !
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-10-20 07:06
I always wonder who owned my '39 years ago......
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-10-21 16:28
and '39s are yet another underrated Ford model year.... they are just too beautiful, especially convertibles !
Oh so true! I would love to get one. Perhaps one day I will go to a show...and find myself a '39! :003: Even a non-convertible would suit my fancy!
Hugh, in my opinion, the 39 Fords are even more beautiful than the fancy 39 Mercs. sure love the Merc bulge in the hood, but the Fords look more streamlined. Dunno. easier, more pleasing than the fancy Merc. I do love the 39 Merc though. the '40s aint bad either ... :002:
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-10-21 17:22
Hugh, in my opinion, the 39 Fords are even more beautiful than the fancy 39 Mercs. sure love the Merc bulge in the hood, but the Fords look more streamlined. Dunno. easier, more pleasing than the fancy Merc. I do love the 39 Merc though. the '40s aint bad either ... :002:
I'm easy...I like 'em all! LOL!!! Just an early Ford car 'ho I guess! I admit it! :003:
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Nice '56
tore this out of a 1972 magazine this morning.
Early Model A Ford Station Wagon Nantucket Island MA
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Flying '49s
Note the skid plate on the Ford in the air
Bondurant and Phil Hill 1964 Targa-Floria
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Curtis Turner
What a shame......
Curtis Turner's car looks like it is shorter in the back than a stock Fairlane to me...??? Am I crazy (probably). I also see the hood is cracked open. Radiator airflow maybe? I see "Smokeys" as in Yunick? and a Custom rear bumper.
Quote from: lalessi1 on 2019-10-25 08:25
Curtis Turner's car looks like it is shorter in the back than a stock Fairlane to me...??? Am I crazy (probably). I also see the hood is cracked open. Radiator airflow maybe? I see "Smokeys" as in Yunick? and a Custom rear bumper.
Smokey would never bend the rules :003:
It would be fun to take apart that '57 Ford today, and see just how many things Smokey tweaked!
His most famous "discovered rule interpretation" was when he acquired two brand new Chevelle's to be built into Daytona race cars. One car was built to pass tech inspection, and the other car was cut apart and then reassemble into a smaller 7/8 scale version to make it have less wind drag on the super speedways. This was decades before the teams had access to wind tunnels for testing their super speedway cars.
When NASCAR figured it out, they told him to take it home, and never bring it back. I guess you could give Smokey credit for the use of todays body template's and laser measuring the cars to pass tech.
Quote from: John Palmer on 2019-10-25 11:03
... One car was built to pass tech inspection, and the other car was cut apart and then reassemble into a smaller 7/8 scale version to make it have less wind drag on the super speedways.
I read many years ago that the legend of the 7/8 scale Chevelle was debunked.
Probably not the version I read but has some interesting info about other tweaks to that car.
http://www.dailysportscar.com/2016/01/24/the-infamous-and-incredible-1967-smokey-yunick-chevrolet-chevelle.html
Quote from Smokey at the end of the article:
"... Smokey looked back and said, "this car had power, aerodynamics and chassis. Too bad we never got to run it. I think it might have been interesting. Was this car a cheater? You're goddamn right it was... but not by NASCAR's published rule book in 1968."
I believe that Smokey was the guy that had snaked a very large diameter fuel line all over the underside of one of his race cars to have more fuel capacity than what the rules said about the allowed fuel tank capacity. The rules at the time said nothing about the size or length of the fuel line. :003:
George Bush 1937
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-10-26 00:40
I read many years ago that the legend of the 7/8 scale Chevelle was debunked.
Probably not the version I read but has some interesting info about other tweaks to that car.
http://www.dailysportscar.com/2016/01/24/the-infamous-and-incredible-1967-smokey-yunick-chevrolet-chevelle.html
Quote from Smokey at the end of the article:
"... Smokey looked back and said, "this car had power, aerodynamics and chassis. Too bad we never got to run it. I think it might have been interesting. Was this car a cheater? You're goddamn right it was... but not by NASCAR's published rule book in 1968."
I believe that Smokey was the guy that had snaked a very large diameter fuel line all over the underside of one of his race cars to have more fuel capacity than what the rules said about the allowed fuel tank capacity. The rules at the time said nothing about the size or length of the fuel line. :003:
I heard another Smokey Story about where he was caught in tech with what they thought was an oversized fuel tank. In protest, he removed the fuel tank, then drove the car back to the garage showing they still did not catch him with the oversized fuel line. Quite a guy with think outside of the box.
Wasn't the 7/8 Chevelle a 1966 model? I've seen pictures of it next to a fullsize Chevelle, which us how Smokey got caught.
Quote from: Lou on 2019-10-26 13:34
Wasn't the 7/8 Chevelle a 1966 model? I've seen pictures of it next to a fullsize Chevelle, which us how Smokey got caught.
As posted before a 7/8 scale 1966 or 1967 Chevelle never existed. Photos are easily faked.
From here: https://macsmotorcitygarage.com/the-truth-about-smokey-yunicks-78-scale-chevelle/
"And while the Chevelle(s) was often called a '67 model, even by Smokey himself, all three cars wore '66 bodywork. However, many of Smokey's Chevelle-related capers took place in the 1967 calendar year, perhaps generating some of the confusion. The '66 and '67 models are similar to the casual eye.""In truth, if Smokey's Chevelle were a true 7/8 size, it would be almost 10 inches narrower and more than two feet shorter than a full-scale version. The wheelbase would be only 100 inches; the track 50 inches. The car would be Vega-sized, not Chevelle-sized, and the scam would be obvious in a rainstorm at midnight."A lot more that debunk the old 'legend' of a 7/8 scale Chevelle.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Did+Smokey+Yunick+build+a+7%2F8+scale+Chevelle%3F+
Iv'e always really liked the 57-60 F-100 body style. Boxy, and well, whats their not to love....
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Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-10-26 21:48
Iv'e always really liked the 57-60 F-100 body style. Boxy, and well, whats their not to love....
I agree. I've had this one since 1975.
Milwaukee Braves pitchers in the celebration parade
Jim, that is a real sweet panel van ! loving the roof with same style bodylines as on the wagon roofs.
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2019-10-27 07:38
I agree. I've had this one since 1975.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-10-27 16:24
Jim, that is a real sweet panel van ! loving the roof with same style bodylines as on the wagon roofs.
I put a wagon rack on top :003: Carried three kids bicycles when traveling.
Pace car
I would love to show up at the campgrounds with this setup !
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1965 Daytona Ford GT40 Mk1
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Early prototype with no script and incomplete interior
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-10-28 20:18
I would love to show up at the campgrounds with this setup !
That woud be oh so cool to have today! Wonder if there are any even left?
The the movie set of "NIAGARA"
Van Nuys blvd. Wednesday night cruise. Taken probably in the later 70's...
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Happy Halloween !
Happy Halloween from the Bates motel.
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1966 Ford GT40 MK1 chassis P/1028
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MA State Police
Beautiful looking Ford dealership.
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-11-01 17:58
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Very nice hood ornament..............anyone know the part number?
Quote from: KYBlueOval on 2019-11-02 04:20
Very nice hood ornament..............anyone know the part number?
I don't...but wish I did! If anyolne finds out...please..SHARE! :hello2:
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Foxworthy Fords
You guys share my thoughts on that hood ornament, although I still cringe everytime I see a pic of someone sitting on a hood.....if I remember correctly that's some year LTD.....a model I hadn't thought of for years.
Foxworthy for Fords......isn't "A-1" an old Chevy thing?
Isnt it a European or Australian Ford? Right hand drive?
I hadn't noticed what appears to be a steering wheel on the right side...........good eyes. I'll bet Joe has some history on the pic, or maybe even a phone number, lol.
Or Guenter, our overseas expert.
1973 Cortina GT
From your 70's Canadian Lot Boy
:canada:
The hood ornament was a DSO - dealer installed option. Very expensive after initial excitement.
Cortina it is! ............lol, probably about 1/2 the size of the LTD I was thinking of.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-11-02 15:20
Cortina it is! ............lol, probably about 1/2 the size of the LTD I was thinking of.
But the primary focus was that quality hood ornament! Any success finding the part number? :003:
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-11-02 16:11
But the primary focus was that quality hood ornament! Any success finding the part number? :003:
Pretty sure it was 36-24-36. :003:
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-11-02 17:31
Pretty sure it was 36-24-36. :003:
MMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...yea...probably! And most likely too expensive for me to purchase anyhow! :005:
The worlds favorite pony car....
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Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-11-02 23:25
The worlds favorite pony car....
I second that! Have a few of those myself! Think I'd like to cme take a ride in that '70 Boss! :burnout:
I would take either or both !
Now THAT's funny!
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-11-03 06:25
I would take either or both !
Me too! Although to be honest...not only does the 427 have more under the food...it appears to be a happier vehicle! :002:
Sadly...could never have a comparison ad like that today...we seem to have lost our humor in this nation. :-\
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Shipping 1940 Fords
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-11-04 07:27
Shipping 1940 Fords
Econo cars...only one taillight...on the driver's side. I thought by then manufacturers were required to have two taillights.
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1965
Forget about trying to outrun em.
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Randy...wonder if that really was a Shelby or they just stuck those lights in there because he did?
wish they still had that car...it is not one of the ones they have kept around. They do have some pretty nice ones though that they did hang on to.
Great pic...thanks!
Upper and lower side scoops, fiberglass hood with scoops, roll bar, driving lights, hood pins.... I'm guessing it's a real 1967 GT500.
1958
My sister had a 1967 GT 500 back in the 70's and it had the outboard driving lights. Apparently it would differ state to state which way you got the driving lights. I personally like the outboard style.
Joe...I think so too. Just that we have never heard anything about them having had it. (I lived in Olympia for 33 years where the cars are kept and the handlers talk about the fun ones.) Guess they didn't keep it around so no one thinks about it.
Randy...yea..I remember reading that some states had different rules about where the lights could be put.,..which frustrated Shelby. Other states didn't care.
No different than our 57's; the Feds as well as most states didn't allow dual headlights until 1958
Well...to be honest....those were add-ons...and they were considerably brighter than headlights. LOL!!!
But yea...first car I can think of that had 4 headlight scheme was the '58 Ford. Never thought about it before. Good point.
I believe a lot of 1957 models were already designed for quad headlights but weren't allowed yet. The downsized the second set as driving lights, like on a 57 Dodge f.e.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-11-06 12:42
Joe...I think so too. Just that we have never heard anything about them having had it. (I lived in Olympia for 33 years where the cars are kept and the handlers talk about the fun ones.) Guess they didn't keep it around so no one thinks about it.
No WSP markings on the door? I'm thinkin' that Mustang could be a privately owned car.
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-11-07 12:50
No WSP markings on the door? I'm thinkin' that Mustang could be a privately owned car.
Very possible. State Patrol cars both then and now have license plates that begin with WSP in their numbering. Especially in that era there were no "plain brown wrapper" cars. No lights of any sort on it or at least visible either.
That shot was taken at the Martin Way WSP office back when Martin way was only a chip-seal 2-lane road with on-street parking.
The building isn't there anymore...shopping strip mall there now. Maybe it had been impounded after a hard chase...and he was the impounding officer who chased it.
The state used to issue plates with the first letter designating the county of origin. I don't remember what "O" was, but I do know it wasn't Thurston County...which is where that pic was taken. I think it might have been Grays Harbor County which is west of Thurston. Thurston was "G" plates mostly.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-11-07 13:18
Very possible. State Patrol cars both then and now have license plates that begin with WSP in their numbering. Especially in that era there were no "plain brown wrapper" cars. No lights of any sort on it or at least visible either.
I wondered about license plate too. Sounds like WA does it the same as here. AST prefix on the Alaska State Trooper's plates.
Was thinkin' the cop in the pic probably owned the car.
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-11-07 13:37
I wondered about license plate too. Sounds like WA does it the same as here. AST prefix on the Alaska State Trooper's plates.
Was thinkin' the cop in the pic probably owned the car.
Could be...he looks like he was pushing in close to retirement age. Maybe that was his gift to himself.
Speaking of GT 500s ...
Just in, the original movie car 'Eleanor' is going up for auction.
You can read about it & see more pix here.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0120-397289/1967-ford-mustang-eleanor/?utm_source=AAInfoNet+Master&utm_campaign=4ab017bc20-FL20_Eleanor&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_fa410e9114-4ab017bc20-112654645&goal=0_fa410e9114-4ab017bc20-112654645&mc_cid=4ab017bc20&mc_eid=a41116760c
Looks like some pretty low hangin' headers & exahust.
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Nice...uh...car, yea, car...uh huh! :003:
Reminds me of the girl in the Li'l Abner cartoon strip.
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Me too...only she...is NO cartoon! LOL!!! Truck is nice too.
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OH...I KNOW that look! LOL!!! Nice one Joe!
1971 Boss 302 Prototype
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There was an actual Boss 302 made in 71. A fellow has collected a bunch of OEM 71 Boss 302 parts, not 69/70 as they won't fit the 69/70 cars, from various Ford dealers. He has a real 71 Boss 302 that was turned into a "regular" 351C 71 and sold in MI I think. Can't find the article but all the parts and the car look to be the real deal.
Used to be of these car washes for the employees on the waterfront to rinse off the dust from the loading barges with wood chips. Anybody could use it though and was quite handy. Got rid of it a few years back probably to conserve water in the wettest part of north america.
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Blast from the past! We had one almost identical to that one at Ethyl Corporation, it was used to wash off airborne tetraethyl lead residue after the occasional rupture disc failure. I decided not to stay at that job for very long.
At Dearborn Assmebly, I saw a '71 Boss 302 in the plant as we were doing the changeover to the '71 model. It was a prototype since all Boss production was 351C.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-11-08 10:49
Used to be of these car washes for the employees on the waterfront to rinse off the dust from the loading barges with wood chips. Anybody could use it though and was quite handy. Got rid of it a few years back probably to conserve water in the wettest part of north america.
There is a farm in Pierce County WA that has one you must pass through before entering the area where the crops are grown. The farm is certified "organic" and the area where the chickens are kept and crops are grown are all kept clean of outside contaminates.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-11-07 19:28
Reminds me of the girl in the Li'l Abner cartoon strip.
That would be Daisy Mae.
Oh there are a lot of guys who in their youth wished that Daisy was a real chickee! LOL!!! :003:
Oh how I long for these by gone days...
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CobraJoe, did you post this one in the past, I don't recall. Sorry if it's a repost.
'57
No problem for me, but I believe the race car is not forum friendly here. The 30s cars all do look so similar, especially when chopped up, but this one didn't start from Dearborn. Ford did build 3 wd Coupes in 32-34 but they all had suicide doors. 35 up had std doors, but this one in the pic is earlier. probably a brand X or so.....starts with a Ch and ends with shabby.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-11-09 06:14
Oh how I long for these by gone days...
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You have a keen eye to spot an off brand. I would say 90% of the hot rods built are Fords, so one automatically assumes it is.
Good pickup on the front hinges DJ; I didn't even notice them, MY BAD! :deadhorse:
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Surfs up! and quit parking your butt and leaning your board against my new Mustang, expect guitar playing blondes. :003:
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-11-09 10:49
... but this one in the pic is earlier. probably a brand X or so.....starts with a Ch and ends with shabby.
Yup. Appears to be 1933 thru 1935 C-word body.
Actual picture of the Highland Park Michigan Crankshaft grinding department in the Ford plant at Highland Park, 4/7/1924
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I bet OSHA guys have nightmares over pics of old factories, particularly machine shops with all of those overhead drive belts just waiting to jump out and grab someone.
312 3 speed 411s with OD
From the GREAT design Studios of F O R D .......Working the 59 Concept Ideas... Clay and such.......
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another.....
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Those giant Renderings on the back wall are Gold.... mostly in a landfill or burned after... this was very Top Secret stuff.....
A take on a Ranch>>>>----------------->
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FORD Advertising down by the Billabong.......
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Ford concept in 56.....
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Clay Truck....
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That's amazing. What a talented group they were back then.
Great batch of pics Jeff. Thanks!
Great pis Jeff!
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Ford Motor car dealership, a Lincoln Continental covered in a clear, plastic sheet and wrapped in a giant red bow, 1955.
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Difficult decision which one is sweeter, the brandnew Lincoln MkII oder the '56 Merc? They both are so beautiful. I'll take one each ! :003:
Woodies
I got Woodies
OK guys, that is not a Lincoln.
56-57 Continental. 10 Thousand Dollars.
1956 Lincoln Continental Mark II
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Nice ride Joe. Haven't seen one of those since I was a kid. Doesn't seem that the older luxury rides have survived over the years. Sad.
Thank you all VETERANS for your service !
You are right FiveSevenLitre. I own a 57 Continental Mark II. "Continental" was a separate division for this car
A few notes and numbers left for Elvis
Quote from: hemidave on 2019-11-12 08:48
A few notes and numbers left for Elvis
I have often wondered...how many of those girls of yesterday...as women of today see a pic of themselves from the day...or in this case see the notes on this car...ever blush and hope that no one they know ever sees the pic or in this case recognizes the phone numbers and messages! LOL!!!
crush or not, you just don't smear a Lincoln with lipstick ! :003:
They were spot on though, the guy was a real cool hepcat. could sing and dance. gotta love Elvis !
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that pic is too cool for words Joe, really , wow !
:003:
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Gee...suddenly I have an urge to buy a '58 Ranchero...and paint it red... :003:
That 58 is a local car around here......and its just been restored to its former glory.
When art and beauty was in the Ford catalogs....
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Options!..At a time you had choices!.. unlike today.....
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Dress up and Go Kat Go!
Who would of thought Ford would of ever offered a set of shorty dump tubes!!! Henry must of rolled over!
I would love to find a Rotunda Tach.
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Great stuff Jeff. I think a 60 Starliner would be the only car I would consider trading my 57 for. I read somewhere recently that the tri-power set up sold over the counter at dealers was something like 15,000. That number seems high to me so I don't know how true it is.
Nice Sportsman
I don't know about that number either Jim, but I did meet a man with a beautiful 60 Strainer once.. who told me in 1960,... he owned 3 Ford dealerships at that time. and the 1960 was one of the worst selling car ever.He lost 2 dealerships because of very poor sales and the 1960 models sold horribly due to a recession at the time.... I don't know if that was just bench racing or true.
I wasn't born then :003:
I have heard that the tri-power option was a dealer option only.
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2019-11-13 09:58
I don't know about that number either Jim, but I did meet a man with a beautiful 60 Strainer once.. who told me in 1960,... he owned 3 Ford dealerships at that time. and the 1960 was one of the worst selling car ever.He lost 2 dealerships because of very poor sales and the 1960 models sold horribly due to a recession at the time.... I don't know if that was just bench racing or true.
I wasn't born then :003:
I have heard that the tri-power option was a dealer option only.
Really? I thought tri-power came from the factory on 390/401hp and 406's. I had a friend who bought a 62 406 off the lot and it had tri-power.
I dunno..Just what I have heard around here locally and read through some print... but may have been a regional thing....
I have 2 of the tri-powers complete. One for each of my Couriers.
As for the claim that the '60 Fords were not selling...I don't think so. I suspect he was probably bitter because he lost 2 dealerships and had to have something to blame it on. I was around in those days...and everyone had one. They were still plentiful into the 70's when I was a 20's something. I actually know where there is one now in Branson...but it is in need of full resto and the guy is asking too much for it. And...I have enough projects going now. LOL!!!
And that pic of a guy walking up to Dewey's car to get an autograph...much different and better times then than now. Can you imagine walking up to a governor's car today in a parade? Especially if that governor was or had been a Presidential candidate? yea...not gonna happen. We have lost our civility...and I doubt it will ever return. Sadly.
Nice car though...
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They had two different "factory" tri power manifolds.
One had a milled angle to offset the "car engine angle", and keep the Holley's level to the ground.
The other factory tri power manifold was to fit the Thunderbirds that had the engines mounted in line with the ground. The manifolds were the same, but milled at a different angle. It's very easy to see the difference when they are side by side.
After fifty years of swap meet purchases, and parts interchanges, you will find many mismatches.
I worked at a Ford "racing" dealership in the 1960's, and they were not that common even when they were only three or four years old.
The highriser manifolds with a 780 Holley were a popular upgrade on the 289 high performance engines. The ford Total Performance aluminum sidewinder (offset) manifold with a large Holley was a common upgrade on the 390's and 428 engines.
Quote from: John Palmer on 2019-11-13 16:37
They had two different "factory" tri power manifolds.
One had a milled angle to offset the "car engine angle", and keep the Holley's level to the ground.
The other factory tri power manifold was to fit the Thunderbirds that had the engines mounted in line with the ground. The manifolds were the same, but milled at a different angle. It's very easy to see the difference when they are side by side.
After fifty years of swap meet purchases, and parts interchanges, you will find many mismatches.
I worked at a Ford "racing" dealership in the 1960's, and they were not that common even when they were only three or four years old.
So...John...mine were both off of 406 engines. No clue what they were in, one I bought out of a guys back seat in '71, he needed money to head east the other I pulled off a 406 that was hurt bad, and came in a 49 Ford P/U I had purchased.
what is a way I can tell which I have? My plan is to use them in my '57 Couriers. Will the angle you speak of cause me any drive-ability problems going forward? I plan on driving these things until I wear out their brand new engines...or I wear out...which ever comes first.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-11-13 16:53
So...John...mine were both off of 406 engines. No clue what they were in, one I bought out of a guys back seat in '71, he needed money to head east the other I pulled off a 406 that was hurt bad, and came in a 49 Ford P/U I had purchased.
what is a way I can tell which I have? My plan is to use them in my '57 Couriers. Will the angle you speak of cause me any drive-ability problems going forward? I plan on driving these things until I wear out their brand new engines...or I wear out...which ever comes first.
Post a side view photo of the two manifolds. The difference in the milled carb base angle is significant, and easy to spot. If you look at any of the 1959 and later T-Birds you will see they all had an engine that was mounted much lower in the front than any of the cars. This was the reason for the two different manifolds.
I am heading out to the shop tomorrow to work on my 69...so I will shoot both of them then. Thanks...cause now I am wondering what I have. And I still am wondering if there will be a drive-ability issue here? I really don't want to have to change the motor-mount placement on my frame. UGH!
Carroll Shelby and driver Dan Gurney posing with American Eagle car, Los Angeles, CA 1966
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Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-11-13 23:21
I am heading out to the shop tomorrow to work on my 69...so I will shoot both of them then. Thanks...cause now I am wondering what I have. And I still am wondering if there will be a drive-ability issue here? I really don't want to have to change the motor-mount placement on my frame. UGH!
If they are both original to a 406 you should be OK. I maybe wrong but I don't think any Birds had 406? If worst comes to worst you could probably just mill the carb mounting surfaces..
No Birds with 406s. From 61 - 65 you could get any engine you wanted in those Birds as long as it was a 390. They did come in two flavors, Z code and the M code. Z being the single 4bbl 300HP and M the tri-power.
With respect to telling the difference between the two, the Bird manifold when sitting level will have the carb bases level with the valve cover rails, the Galaxie will have a three degree down angle with respect to the valve cover rail. The rear carb base is so much taller on the Galaxie manifold compared to the front carb base it is easy to tell the difference.
Quote from: Ford Blue blood on 2019-11-14 08:56
No Birds with 406s. From 61 - 65 you could get any engine you wanted in those Birds as long as it was a 390. They did come in two flavors, Z code and the M code. Z being the single 4bbl 300HP and M the tri-power.
With respect to telling the difference between the two, the Bird manifold when sitting level will have the carb bases level with the valve cover rails, the Galaxie will have a three degree down angle with respect to the valve cover rail. The rear carb base is so much taller on the Galaxie manifold compared to the front carb base it is easy to tell the difference.
Not to hijack the thread but this eBay listing has a pic that shows the angled manifold
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-3X2-Tri-Power-Intake-Manifold-FE-390-406-428-original-1962-Galaxie/163212675630?hash=item26003bca2e:g:CfsAAOSwlCBbe2ZP
'62
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Everything you ever want to know about 3X2's at hptrends.com
Ron.
Thanks Ron. I will pull it up and then stick it on my screen for future reference!
Blue Blood and hiball...So...here are the 2 tri-powers...looks like both have the offset carb mounts. I assume that means I am good to go for my 390 in the Courier then. Yes?
And hiball..as far as I know there was never a T-Bird with a 406...at least not from the factory. I am sure some enterprising young lad probably made a switch. LOL!!!
great intakes ! Hugh, are you going to build both Couriers with 390s ?
If you are still planning on your Euro trip, you might want to rethink that. Remember that gas is about twice or three times as expensive over here ! so a 302 2bbl might be a good choice for fuel economy. If you plan on driving ten thousands of kilometers, that is something to concern. also there will be added cost of insurance and there are heavy road taxes and fees in most countries as well.
When I ran my tri-power FE in my truck I had no problem getting 5-6 mpg :005:
Same here. I could watch the gas gauge go down on mine. While they look cool I think a four barrel on the right manifold make more power. I am sure they can work great if tuned properly and you keep your foot out of them!
The foot is the main issue :003: You can always disconnect the two outer carbs and run on the center 2V.
Both of those manifolds are Galaxie. Love the setup! Had one on my 73 F100/360/granny geared 4 speed/3.55 T-lok. The thing gave me a good solid 12 MPG in stock form. Pulled the 2bbl, got early 390 timing gears to put the cam back up straight, an early distributor, added the tri-power with smaller jets in the secondarys and bumped the mileage up to a solid 14 and the fun factor up 2000%! I took it off the truck when it was sold, kept it for years and a fellow here learned I had one and offered me a great price so off it went to a new happy home.
The good old 1950s '55 Ford, a beer, and a cigarette
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-11-15 05:56
great intakes ! Hugh, are you going to build both Couriers with 390s ?
If you are still planning on your Euro trip, you might want to rethink that. Remember that gas is about twice or three times as expensive over here ! so a 302 2bbl might be a good choice for fuel economy. If you plan on driving ten thousands of kilometers, that is something to concern. also there will be added cost of insurance and there are heavy road taxes and fees in most countries as well.
I was aware of the difference in fuel prices yes. But...I have been building this car in my head for 40 years...so I'll just have to deal with it...or perhaps adjust the linkage so that I am running a 2 bbl mostly.
I actually have a couple of other ideas for increasing fuel economy as I plan on driving it across this country often as well. Biggest one will be initially raising the rear gear ration to around 290:1 or somewhere in that range. If I can squeeze 20 mpg out of it I will be happy.
Also have thought about investing in a Gearstar O/D system...if I can get it done before I make the trip.
Mouseketeer......
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My built 427 w/48 IDA's was good for 5-7 mpg's. :burnout:
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Beautiful engine Joe. The gas companies love you guys.
Annette..........was there anybody who didn't have a crush on her?
feel ya'! 8x62s
I sure did Rich !
Annette as in Annette Funicello, right ?
famous custom car painter Larry Watson painted her T bird. wonder if it's the same as above (in white)
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Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-11-15 16:38
Beautiful engine Joe. The gas companies love you guys.
Annette..........was there anybody who didn't have a crush on her?
Back in the 60's she was at an opening for a local Dunkin Donuts. They flew her and her mom to the store in a helicopter!
Still have her autograph somewhere.
The 6v set-up has progressive linkage from Ford. 2/3 throttle on 2v.
Do Not mix up any parts on the carbs, all 3 are slightly different.
Ron.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-11-15 16:38
Annette..........was there anybody who didn't have a crush on her?
Well...yea...there were a few...but they were all living in 'Frisco at the time...scratching their left elbows with their left hands. :003
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Thanks Ron...I will be sure to not do that.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-11-13 23:21
And I still am wondering if there will be a drive-ability issue here?
I kinda doubt that you would have any drive-ability issues.
I've gone up & down some very steep hills in cars & on motorcycles with no issues from carbs.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-11-15 16:38
... Annette..........was there anybody who didn't have a crush on her?
Yeah, me. I was never a big fan of Annette Fullajello. And I never lived in San Francisco. And I can't scratch my left elbow with my left hand. Whatever that was supposed to mean.
My money's on the Model A!
Assuming that that Model A has at least warmed over Flatty.
But like they say, you can't outrun Motorola. :(
That chopped 1930-'31 Model A appears to be sitting on a Deuce frame too.
Looking at some YouTube music vid that was posted here & YouTube just kept going on to different music vids.
This cool pic was on Steve Miller's 'Mercury Blues' vid.
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Unveiling the new '49 Ford in Orlando
Annette who?
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Tbird
Nice! Car wasn't bad either! LOL!!!
Think about his...if that beauty is still alive today...and that pic was taken in '57...she is probably about 81 today. LOL!!!
Wow, no rust there !!
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I do enjoy the nice young lady, in the pictures lately, brings back a lot of memories, however all they do is make my heart beat fast, nothing else works anymore.
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Just think. That looks like a 1946 tractor pulling that big trailer with the new 1949 Fords. It most likely had a little 59 AB. Flathead in it. Y blocks were not around yet.
LOTS of torque in them thar things. And the gearing...
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'32
Not a Ford but has nice body lines
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I will take 2 please......
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Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2019-11-18 15:47
I will take 2 please......
I have two now...but if I could get them at those prices...I'd gladly take 2 more! Currently that little power maker set-up is going for between $3750 & $5k. SWEET!
The city bought 6cyl '58 cruisers. Then the officers started complaining how they were constantly being outrun!
Those were some great prices. In 1962 I remember walking into a Ford dealership in Quincy Mass and paying $35. for a 406 cam that I put into a 390. Wonder what that would cost today.
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The city bought 6cyl '58 cruisers. Then the officers started complaining how they were constantly being outrun!
You have to love the bean counters, what were they thinking :005:
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2019-11-19 08:05
Those were some great prices. In 1962 I remember walking into a Ford dealership in Quincy Mass and paying $35. for a 406 cam that I put into a 390. Wonder what that would cost today.
Jay, utilizing a inflation calculator, this is what it would cost you in today's dollars:
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Thank You Joe. Today I can't afford it.
It's going to be a long winter. Hopefully we can get together for coffee sometime.
Jay, do you recognize the picture in Reply #2624 ?
Joe I do not. Is that somewhere in New Bedford?
where is that Joe ? are these Shelby Mustangs?
3 MILLION VOLTS
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3 MILLION VOLTS
Does that make it a true HOT rod?
That guy sitting in it had some serious chops to take that risk!
hey guys pic 2624 was the side lot of Tasca Ford 777 Taunton Ave. E Prov. Just started work there late 1967. JViera
OK John came to the rescue. He knows all of that important stuff.
Quote from: jviera on 2019-11-20 13:47
hey guys pic 2624 was the side lot of Tasca Ford 777 Taunton Ave. E Prov. Just started work there late 1967. JViera
John is correct:
"It's 1967 on the side lot of Tasca Ford at 777 Taunton Avenue in East Providence, Rhode Island. At least 16 Shelby G.T. 500's and G.T. 350's were just sitting there, collecting dust. They also collected the graffiti of the local punks who were obviously not Ford fans (see the ''Ford Sucks, Buy a Chevy'' painted on the one in the foreground). As for the cars, the ones in the far row seem to be G.T. 500s, and the near ones, G.T. 350's. Barely visible you make out another line of signature spoilers and Cougar taillights on the left side of the bushes. Also hard to see in print, but apparent to us in a high-resolution scan, is the poor fit of some of the fiberglass noses. These cars seem to be fresh stock, as the dealer-added Le Mans stripes are absent. It has the midyear, widespread high beams that are consistent with the timing of the photo (rather than the early ones that are set close together in the center of the grille).
We especially like the bargain basement sign visible at top left, pointing to the cars."(https://i.imgur.com/VTCguYe.png)
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One has to wonder...as the punks grew up (and supposedly smater) how many of them now or have owned Shelbys? ;)
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-11-19 12:11
Jay, utilizing a inflation calculator, this is what it would cost you in today's dollars:
Here's the link to that inflation calculator.
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-11-18 15:53
I have two now...but if I could get them at those prices...I'd gladly take 2 more! Currently that little power maker set-up is going for between $3750 & $5k. SWEET!
Guy up in 'Wasiilly' has been trying to sell this 3 deuce manifold for quite a while. $1200.
"1961 - 63 Ford Thunderbird, M Code FE, Low Riser, Dual Plane, Tri-Power aluminum Intake Manifold, in very good to excellent condition and ready to bolt on. Will fit on 352, 390, 406, 410, 427, and 428 big-block FE big block engines. This manifold does not have the stepped carbs that were used on early '60's Galaxies which had an inclined engine."https://anchorage.craigslist.org/pts/d/wasilla-ford-big-block-tri-power-intake/7018722987.html
So that one must be one of the ones that came from a T-Bird. I will be using the ones I have, since they have the canted angle. if I had been able to get my hands on the T-Bird I saw on 101 before it sold...I would be grabbing that bad puppy! That is a good price. I saw a rebuild place that sells them intact and ready to go for $3750.
I am so broke now I walk crooked! LOL!!! Thanks for the line though...I'm going to go look at it...maybe someone else I know will want it.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-11-20 19:47
So that one must be one of the ones that came from a T-Bird.
That's what it says.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-11-20 19:47
That is a good price. I saw a rebuild place that sells them intact and ready to go for $3750.
Remember, this is the manifold only.
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-11-20 21:42
That's what it says.
Remember, this is the manifold only.
Right...I looked at the ad. And even though it is without the carbs that is still a good price. He has most everything else. But not being a stepped manifold I wouldn't be able to use it. Wish I had score that T-Bird. Had a straight as an arrow body after over 50 years. Appeared to have been really well cared for.
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MOON equipped
not sure but it looks like her head lights are on.
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You guys really need to watch this, especially around the 4 minute mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=379&v=u7r_uaa0puM&feature=emb_logo
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-11-21 21:00
You guys really need to watch this, especially around the 4 minute mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=379&v=u7r_uaa0puM&feature=emb_logo
There are an awful lot of viable street rods in that place. :burnout:
So many projects...so little time and money!
I should stop there my next trip to Branson...oh...wait...it's winter time! Scratch that!
Thanks Joe!
Nice ! I want all those T roadsters so I can build one in each style I am dreaming off :003:
One with a flathead, candy red paint and whitewall tires, another one all black with a flathead on blackwalls. One with a Y block and a 2x4 and another one with an F code and Rader mag wheels. then if some were left I'd have to build another one with a 289/4spd, Redline tires and Buick wire wheels.....haha...now I feel a little like Jeff Norwell. Only he does it all with REAL 57 Fords... :002: :003:
On a sidenote the video looks quite dated and I doubt that all of those cars are still there...?
I will try and go there when spring or summer hits on one of my trips to Branson as I am moving across the country. I will let ya know! Then you can arrange for shipping! LOL!!!
Off to bed now...it is nearly 3 a.m. here..and I have a long day tomorrow. Keep dreamin'! It's tax free LOL!!! :003:
Inside Shelbys' shop. My wife and I enjoyed watching "Ford VS Ferrari" at the movie theater yesterday.
Perfection!
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Good movie! Surprised me, my wife actually liked it too!
The good ol' days:
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Brand new
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Don Nicholson's altered wheelbase Mercury Comet Cyclone
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Quite the lineup
Love those convertible races
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Supercharged wagon
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THAT is a pic from the department of "First you say it...then you do it!" Wonder which one of those two had the messiest shorts after that unscheduled meeting?!
Here's the actual pic, a little better quality...
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Hey Joe! I used that inflation calculator you gave us...and put in the price of gas back in '70...and then hit the calculate button. BOY are we getting ripped off today!
In 1970...I was paying $0.25 per gallon in San Diego. Today...in WA state we pay about $3.15 to $3.50 per gallon. According to the calculator...we should be paying around...$1.66!!!
Methinks we are getting ripped off a touch! :-[ :'( :( :( :o
Shelby with Chris Amon & Bruce McLaren
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Hugh, you are...here in Texas we're about 2.15 this week for regular. On most of my roadtrips, I'll see oil rigs pumping away all over, not sure if that has anything to do with it......probably not as I can't remember the last refinery I saw. I think it was in Socal 40 years ago.
Tab Hunter
Rich, our fuel price may go up now that the refinery blew up in Port Neches last night. My cousin came through last week from California and said they paid over 4.00 per gallon for regular unleaded.
I check the highest/lowest places in SoCal every once and a while. Yesterday the high was 5.49 at Olympic and Fairfax. The low was 3.99 at Costco..
Whoa.......I think that alone would be enough to move eastward. Since I've been in Amarillo (2003), gas prices generally here are lower than anywhere else on my roadtrips. I always make sure I fill up before heading out.
Kirby (Kerby?)...I finally found some info on the internet about that explosion. It was a chemical plant, not refinery, so may not affect gas prices.
Regular gas here dropped to $1.99 earlier this year. Not real sure what it is today. I run premium in all 3 cars so I don't pay close attention to regular prices. I always thought that cost differences depended on state regulations and taxes.
Gas in the leftist states is indeed high due to taxes. The LOVE their taxes. Here in WA and down in CA the highest gas taxes in the country. Our legislature in WA is going back into session in January...I won't be surprised to see them raise gas taxes again. I can honestly say I will not miss living here anymore after 47 years of this malarkey!
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Great pic Joe ! ^^^
The idiot leftists didn't realize that electric and other high mileage vehicles would result in less gas tax collected.
Btw regular gas in Md is $2.35 With all the oil production in the US gas should be about $1.60 +/-
The Saudis keep cutting prices to try to bankrupt the Dakota oil fields so prices should stay low for a while.
If we still drove vehicles that got 9-10 mpg nobody would driving or driving much less anyways. So it would be kind of a wash in taxes collected.
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NICE PIC! I love the '57 T-Bird...and that pic shows what monsters they could be on the track! Sweet! Wish it was in color! That would be pretty slick.
Think I'll download that one and print it out for a frame and on to my wall! :burnout:
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-11-28 20:29
If we still drove vehicles that got 9-10 mpg nobody would driving or driving much less anyways. So it would be kind of a wash in taxes collected.
I dunno...using Joe's inflation calculator...we should only be paying around $1.60 a gallon now. In WA state the gas tax is approaching $0.90 a gallon. And with the legislature coming back into session in January of this year...and the people in the state having just passed an initiative to lower license tabs back to $30.00 from the $90 to $200 range (depending on which county you live in..King county is the highest)..we will probably see the gas tax go up another $0.30 per gallon spread out over a 3 year increment. I won't be around to suffer that rip off though...should be in MO before summer of this year for good!
Nice bird
Liz Taylor Jayne Mansfield?
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-11-29 10:12
Liz Taylor Jayne Mansfield?
Joan Collins and Jayne
Intake hoses good for sucking up shevolays.
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1957 T-Bird
I used to sit on that bank with those guys at Mission Raceway and watch Carl Tjorholm run the Black Bird. Sold popcorn at the track and cleaned up under the grandstands after the event. For this we got a key to the gate and could ride our bikes on the Motocross track. Carl sold the Black Bird and the Kremyr Bros. ran it and still have it. There is a SOHC waiting to go in.
I took this last year of Carl still wearing his Black Bird jacket.
427 DRAGSTER
Looks like, to me, the "Blackbird" runs the same taillights as Rich runs on his 57.
Loading them up
'58
Nice '56
'57 Ford
What the cat said...
Rancheros at Bonneville 1966
Sweet in the #1 pic!
Good Job !!!
Two of the best names in drag racing. Butch Leal "California Flash" and Gas Ronda.
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Fueling up for Pikes Peak
David Pearson Boss 429 engine ready to do battle in the 69-70 season?
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Heading out for some fun
Nice Sunliner
I have a trailer like the one the midget is on, that is the only other one I have ever seen.
Anyone else have or seen one? It doesn't use a trailer ball just two pivots under the tow car.
Ron.
I remember seeing trailers like that when I was in my teens, I thought it was a dumb idea at the time.
Quote from: SkylinerRon on 2019-12-08 20:25
Anyone else have or seen one? It doesn't use a trailer ball just two pivots under the tow car.
The ol' man had one of those one-wheel trailers for a while when I was a kid. Makes it easy to back up since the wheel pivots & doesn't pivot at the car.
Currently they do make one-wheel trailers to be pulled behind motorcycles but I think they all pivot at the bike.
The one the ol' man had may very well have been one of the Allstate ones since everybody up here used to have to order a lot of stuff from Sears.
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NICE CUTAWAY
Always wondered what they do with cars like that? Just trash them or do they disassemble them and put the intact parts back into play as replacement parts in the new model year?
Good question. I wonder if it was assigned a vin#.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-12-09 11:11
Good question. I wonder if it was assigned a vin#.
I did the old Mustangs Across America trip a couple of times. Last in '09. They gave the organizer a "mule", white Mustang GT. After the road trip was over it was to be crushed. Always thought that was a waste of a perfectly good car.
That was what prompted me to ask...wondering if this was a decades old process. The "mule" had a serial/vin number and MI plates, factory dealer plates if memory serves.
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One very strange pic.
Mustang, could you explain what the mule is?
A "mule" is sometimes a test vehicle, unlike this poor '57, unless someone was "testing" it out !
Quote from: fdlrc on 2019-12-10 07:27
Mustang, could you explain what the mule is?
Dave nailed it. Often they are used as display cars at model change years. Or test cars when modifications are being to engines, transmissions or perhaps suspensions.
On my way out to Branson last spring I ran across 4 of them at a gas station. They wouldn't tell me what their purpose was, said it was a corporate secret, but all four were outfitted with towers similar to what you see in a cop car nowadays, with a mounted laptop, and some sort of other computer below that was probably gathering data. They were being driven by 4 young guys in their mid to late 20's. Four different colors, all GTs and were licensed with MI manufacturer plates. All I got out of them was they were driving cross country to CA and back and testing new equipment. No specifics.
I asked the blunt question..."are these test miles then that will be crushed when you get back?" And the guy who would actually speak to me (I think he was the group leader) said they were and yes they would.
Sad...beautiful cars.
Vehicles "under wraps" are being driven all over the deserts of Western Arizona doing various tests in different weather every day. Ford has a large test facility near Kingman, and other manufacturers share other test facilities in Arizona to do their extreme climate testing. I know Subaru does some testing in Death Valley.
In a past life, I worked for a off shore new vehicle manufacturer. They had many "preproduction" units. Some were hand made, just wood models used for catalog photo shoots. Others were full production vehicles that had not yet passed all of the long term emission testing. Everyone of these vehicles were closely tracked by the Bean Counters. They all went to "a certified" crushing facility after we were done using, or showing them. This included Cars, Trucks, Motorcycles, ATV's, UTV's, Generators, and Boat Motors. They all had federal emission, an/or crash safety requirements. They were only resold if they were a legally titled vehicle, or had an MSO (Manufactures Statement of Origin).
They never ever tried to evade these rules.
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RIDE 'EM COWBOY!!! Oh yea! :smtree2:
For Gunther: :003:
Blue Heaven 1955 Sunliner, Stockholm 1969
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A Ford family outing (except for 1 family)
is that a Willys Sedan ?
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-12-10 17:27
For Gunther: :003:
Blue Heaven 1955 Sunliner, Stockholm 1969
Thanx Joe ! Indeed I like it a bit and it is interesting. The Swedes have some tpyical Kustom fashion and tradition and you can almost immediately spot that on the car. They used to heavily mold the frontend and tails with rolled pans, welded up grill surrounds and the like. most have wild taillight arrangements or /and fins. Many are highly customized, yet have very little chrome and many are bumperless. they have lots of molded scoops and sunk antennae.
Sweden is one of very few European countries that also had a Hot Rod and Custom scene going from the 1950s. Probably its closer contact to the US and the wide country itself lending for individual cars. They had the American magazines available and there were even speed shops. I believe the typical Swedish custom look without heavy chrome bumpers comes from prohibitive high cost. back then you could not simply go to a salvage yard or order a new Caddy bumper from the USA in Europe. Very interesting car, thanx, Joe !
52 - 53 or 54 Willys Aero. Decent little cars.
Larry Watson's 1958 T-Bird "Vino Pasiano"
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Larry bought the Thunderbird brand new in 1958 after selling his customized 1950 Chevrolet. Three weeks after Larry had delivered the Thunderbird to Barris Kustoms it was shown on a turntable at the first Renegades Rod & Custom Motorama in 1958.
roughly translated as Friendly wine. Wonder what the meaning was? Maybe Gunther can do a better translation...my Italian is beyond rough. G?...
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-12-11 17:08
roughly translated as Friendly wine. Wonder what the meaning was? Maybe Gunther can do a better translation...my Italian is beyond rough. G?...
"Named "Vino Pasiano", it's rumored that the car was named after a bottle of wine on a shelf in Larry's shop. Another opinion holds that it was due to the color."
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A happy Ford family
Those are the Choppers car club from Burbank, Ca. not a pic from the 1950s, but rather around Y2k. Probably one of the most dedicated bunch in the revival of traditionally styled cars. I can see Fishs F100, Verns 34, Keith Weesners (infamous artist) roadster and Aaron Kahan ( later editor of Rod and Kustom magazine) 32 Cpe. All of their cars are very individual and can easily be told from other Hot Rods.
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Pasiano is the name of a city in upper Italy, about halfway between the Austrian border and Venice, about 200 miles or 4 hours from my place. that region is reknown for their fine wine. It is just so beautiful there. An Italian friend of mine has an old farmhouse very close to that town. they are the typical Italian 2 story stone houses with red tile roofing. I visited in 2003 with my 57 Courier and drove further south past Florence and near Ancona to attend a vintage car and music festival, the Summer Jamboree in Senigallia.
When you go on your European tour, Hugh, you want to see this area as well. Italians in general they are crazy about old cars, le macchine d'epoca as they call them.
It sounds as if Larry Watson indeed named his T bird after a brand of Italian wine. I believe it was one of the first candy pearl paint jobs ever and the candy red faded badly within months, so he had to redo it shortly afterwards with even more shades and panels.
imho Larry Watson was one of the greatest car painters ever. I just love each and every of his creations. He also did a lot of 57 Fords.
the T bird is gorgeous !
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-12-12 05:06
"Named "Vino Pasiano", it's rumored that the car was named after a bottle of wine on a shelf in Larry's shop. Another opinion holds that it was due to the color."
oops, that is not Aarons blue 32 Cpe in the pic, that must be Jack Carrols Flathead powered brown Deuce !
that must be one of the most beautiful 32 Fords ever.
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Thanks Joe. Ditto Gunther. :003:
Amazing info, Gunter. Haha, I was trying to figure out if that overhead shot with the 5 cars were of really detailed models. Look to be on dirt or sand , but no tire tracks or footprints.
Correct Gunther, here is a color photo of the same shot: (technically still an "Old Ford" pic, or a pic of "Old Fords" :003:)
The Burbank Choppers at the 2008 CHHR in Bakersfield
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I am not blaming you Joe, sure old Fords and with time fleeting like a summer breeze, this is even an old pic by now. I remember when I bought my first Car Culture Deluxe magazine around 2000 and the Choppers CC were on the cover
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Sorry that I cannot provide any further info on these shots, but I am sure that somebody somehow on this forum will be associated or know the whereabouts. Now guys, hold your breath !!!! watch this.
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OMG!!! E and F twins..
Minter restored cars, the best you can get. The dual quad car I believe is a real E code, while the F code was built using correct parts. What a pair for sure.
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2 wagons
Those two black Customs are unbelievably beautiful. Unfortunately I clearly remember the late 1950's when the customs were
not popular and they got junked for the smallest unimportant reason.
Times have certainly changed.
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Dudley Edwards & Doug Binder (right) with one of their sport car designs. Image: Martin Cook, by courtesy of Dudley Edwards.
Doug Binder, figurative painter, was born in Bradford in 1941.
Between 1957-61 he studied at commercial design at Bradford School of Art, but quickly realised that his interests lay more with abstract painting than with commercial art. In 1958, aged 17, he rented a studio on Thornton Road, Bradford giving him the space to paint what he wanted. The work he completed during this time enabled him to gain a place at the Royal College of Art, London, to study painting.
In 1964 he was awarded an Abbey Minor Travelling Scholarship to Italy. During 1965 he taught at Norwich School of Art for a while before becoming a co-founder of ?Binder Edwards and Vaughan? with two fellow students, including Dudley Edwards, from Bradford School of Art. They were given the title of the ?Underground Design Group?, gaining a reputation and following for their psychedelic painted sports cars (see example below) and colourful household furniture. Doug received commissions during this time for designs from Philips Record Co Ltd, Ministry of Public Building and Works, Macy?s Department Store, San Francisco, Sanderson Fabrics and Lyons Restaurants, along with commissions from the famous ? John Lennon, for example.
Whoa! Somebody's done too much acid.
Jay...I agree. From what I remember, cars like Customs were not popular back in the day. The popular stuff was longer, lower, more flash, more of this, more of that. Reality is, the shortage of these Customs in today's world is probably due to them having a higher % going to the junk yards at an early age.
To each his own I guess...but Hell would freeze over before I would even stand close to that thing, being afraid someone would snap a picture of it and I might be seen near it. Not my taste at all.
I might buy it...and have it shipped straight to a body shop and have it painted British Racing Green...but until then...no closer than 50 feet for me! LOL!!!
Ford families
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2019-12-13 20:26
Jay...I agree. From what I remember, cars like Customs were not popular back in the day. The popular stuff was longer, lower, more flash, more of this, more of that. Reality is, the shortage of these Customs in today's world is probably due to them having a higher % going to the junk yards at an early age.
Rich
Everything that you stated above is very very true. In those days people usually fixed up the longer lower flashy 57's .
You are probably old enough to have seen the new 57's coming into all of those big dealerships up there near Commonwealth Ave in
Boston in the old days. These days I don't give a second look at the strange things that they call cars when they are getting unloaded. I doubt very much that they will be around 60 years from now
I think the Mustangs will be...but the rest of them...nah.
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Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-12-14 17:24
I think the Mustangs will be...but the rest of them...nah.
Yes I would agree the Mustangs would probably still be around.
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2019-12-14 18:31
Yes I would agree the Mustangs would probably still be around.
Likely not the 4 door electric Mustang MachE !
Me, my Mom & our family's stick shift + overdrive '55 wagon on Cannon Beach Oregon in July 1956.
My mothers parents had moved down to Forest Grove Oregon for a while & we drove down The Alcan Highway from Anchorage to visit them.
At some point the ol' man wanted to check out some new '56 Ford wagons in Beaverton. On the way back to Forest Grove and about one second after the ol' man said that we would probably just stick with the '55 the hood flew up & wrapped itself around the windshield.
Seems that the people at the Ford dealer had looked over the '55 for trade in value & didn't get the hood shut very good.
After we got turned around & went back to the Ford dealer we ended up with a new '56 four door Ranch Wagon with a 312, four barrel & an auto trans that we drove back to Anchorage. I'm pretty sure that the ol' man got a real good deal on it or he wouldn't have bought it.
It was a great car that I sometimes ran the wheels off of a few years later. That sucker went good! It served our family very well for the next 9 or 10 years & a couple more trips on the then mostly rough gravel Alcan Highway. It's probably responsible for my great love of 1956 Fords.
Our '56 Ranch Wagon looked just like the one these Anchorage teenagers are standing in front of in the fuzzy second pic.
For all I know it's the same car that someone bought after the ol' man sold it.
Quote from: 59meteor on 2019-12-14 20:58
Likely not the 4 door electric Mustang MachE !
Yea...that is NOT a Mustang...I suspect there will be a name change coning somewhere down the line. MCA is gonna raise a stink over that like they did the Probe back in the 80's.
Someone say Mustang?
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Speedometer man
Perfection!
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This is my personal shot.. taken about 10 years back, while on our way to the Jalopyrama in Maryland..... New Jersey's Finest wanted a little closer look....
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Everyone has seen this shot.. but its a favourite.... love the car,the set up and the gentleman has definite OCD.
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Raw Gritty and personal.
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I believe the above shot is the Ray Brown Roadster... way before it was painted.... late 40's possibly?... El Mirage I think.
My pal Lucky Burton got his Chrisman Inspired coupe finished last summer..but did not make any runs at B-ville..... Working on his race shirts now..... you can see it in person at this years GNRS... Lucky is a great guy.
Photo Credit to TRJ.
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Another pal,Wm. Kelly down in Texas owns this old Kustom.... A great car.Love History and those who respect it.
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Pin Up Art......I did some in the past for clients.... I have a deep admiration for Vargas and Gil Elvgren.. the MASTERS.
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And with that.... Christmas is coming fast..Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to ALL.
Santa better get that water Heater tuned before the big night.
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Same to you Jeff and as always, beautiful work!
Thanks Jeff, very enjoyable
Nice work, Jeff! Thanks. Merry Christmas to you and to everyone.
Great pics and art work Jeff. Gratzi!
And Merry Christmas to you and yours as well. And to everyone else too!
Jeff,
Here is the other end of the Galaxie spectrum, a white four door.
The smooth talking salesmen prided himself for picking up hitchhikers and selling them his car.
He went by H.D., but I called him Dad.
Merry Christmas all.....
Terry.. your DAD was a forward thinking Salesman!
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2019-12-15 14:09
The smooth talking salesmen prided himself for picking up hitchhikers and selling them his car.
He went by H.D., but I called him Dad.
LOL!!! Now that is an innovative way to make a sale! Not sure it would work in today's society sadly. Probably too dangerous. But hey...he ha a plan that worked! :003:
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ALTHOUGH NOT TECHNICALLY A FORD...
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So...is that a young Cobra Joe in that pic? Working on the front suspension to improve handling? :003: :burnout:
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-12-15 17:32
So...is that a young Cobra Joe in that pic? Working on the front suspension to improve handling? :003: :burnout:
...all the way down to the Saddle Shoes. :002:
Lots and lots of great stuff posted today.
:hello2:
WOW !
Jeff, will you please stop posting the '57 Seaburst. that icon car slowly starts to make my mind go insane....it's the WHAT IF...
your Pinup artwork is sweet. Do you know Pearl Frush ? She was a female artist form the 1940s/50s and her style is just so much better than any male artist could ever envision the character of a sweet girl.
sorry if this is off topic, but it's neither nude nor rude, so I believe this should be ok?
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Welcome to AZ
Thank you Jeff
You did good.
Merry Christmas to everyone
Jay
Merry Christmas Jay!
Gunther..I have not heard of Pearl Frush.. beautiful work.i will do a search on her stuff.
Agreed,.... The image is neither nude or rude.... I like it.....a lot.
I will email you later a bunch more shots of the Sea Breeze...William wanted to trade me for my 32,... I was willing but the trying to "Trade" across borders is frowned upon our Political Masters..... they can't make any money..... massive Hassle.So I backed away.
Jeff, beautiful artwork. thanks for those posts. Merry Christmas to everyone! :tree:
Those # 2760 pictures of the black 60 Fords look beautiful. I especially like them without the hubcaps. Seems like the 60 Fords have
mostly vanished from the face of the earth.
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El Trendero - 1957 Ford Ranchero - Dave Puhl
It was between 1961 and 1962 that Dave Puhl and John Malik of Trend Custom Shop (Lyons - Illinois) made this radical kustom from a 1957 Ford Ranchero by the name of Trendero. The single front face consists at the bottom of a cavity borrowed from a 1959 Thunderbird and integrated on the front of the body of the pick up extending the car forward by 6 inches. The 4 headlights borrowed from Harley Davidson motorcycles are set back from the advanced Thunderbird, integrating into particularly original tubular cavities. Tubes are placed on the front fenders above the wheels, from which horizontal antennas come out, which add another space dimension to the car.
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Quote from: Ecode70D on 2019-12-16 15:41
Those # 2760 pictures of the black 60 Fords look beautiful. I especially like them without the hubcaps. Seems like the 60 Fords have
mostly vanished from the face of the earth.
There does indeed seem to be a vacuum when it comes to those. Sadly. I have some fond memories of those cars...even though my father was not one to buy the quality Fords...instead buying ones that constantly were known as members of the Gotta Mechanic Comin' family.
My love of Fords began with the Mustang...which came out when I was 11...and has been a disease since I never want to recover from.
The Trendero is wild, Joe. it still survives in original paint ! Its not beautiful imho, but interesting.
Jay, the 60 Fords are another sweet design, but.... they do rust even worse than 57s and 58s.... Baumis neighbor and friend Martin (Schrauberlehrling) has a 60 wagon and welding work has been going on for 5 yrs....neverending story #375.....it was a lot worse than my Del Rio. they replaced all B , C and D posts and all rain gutters. of course all floors....ouch !
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-12-16 17:13
My love of Fords began with the Mustang...which came out when I was 11...and has been a disease since I never want to recover from.
Me too, especially the R Codes and the Fastbacks...
Mr. Andretti:
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Nice pics Joe! Mario was one of my favorites growing up.
when I was 18 and taking the bus to tech school, everyday, there was a local classic car dealer and they had a black 68 or 69 (?) fastback on display. I kept watching that pony go bye every morning and afternoon. that was a milestone for me. it sure left me with a decision. haven't owned a Mustang yet, but driven and worked on some and rode shotgun. My friend Sascha has inherited his fathers 70 Mach-I that he brought back from working overseas in Canada back then. Many stories are connected to that car. even listening to Chuck Berry's 'Mustang Ford' while chasing wild rabbits in a field....well....ahem....youth.... :002:
this is a way too much underrated song by Chuck B. 'My Mustang Ford'.
Berry at his best guitar playing and some sweet and innocent lyrics. just an awesome pure RocknRoll song dedicated to one of the most beautiful cars ever ! love to play this whenever I'm out in the 57 and 34 !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fy5VlUTgFI
Was slightly surprised to see a 1955 Ford show up in this vid about the 1955 Belgian Grand Prix.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7exBtOgys7I
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-12-16 03:27
... Do you know Pearl Frush ? She was a female artist form the 1940s/50s and her style is just so much better than any male artist could ever envision the character of a sweet girl.
Sorry guys, I couldn't resist. :002:
And no, I don't feel this way about women at all.
I luvs 'em! :055: :icon_queen:
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-12-16 18:13
when I was 18 and taking the bus to tech school, everyday, there was a local classic car dealer and they had a black 68 or 69 (?) fastback on display. I kept watching that pony go bye every morning and afternoon. that was a milestone for me. it sure left me with a decision. haven't owned a Mustang yet, but driven and worked on some and rode shotgun. My friend Sascha has inherited his fathers 70 Mach-I that he brought back from working overseas in Canada back then. Many stories are connected to that car. even listening to Chuck Berry's 'Mustang Ford' while chasing wild rabbits in a field....well....ahem....youth.... :002:
Were they called Mustangs, or did they go under the T-5 name in Austria too?
They were sold as T-5s over here as well. There was some other German Company holding the name Mustang, I believe for light motorcycles. My friend's ( and his fathers's) 70 Mach-I of course is a regular Mustang, since he imported it from Canada in 1972 or so.
If you guys are interested, I have an original copy of the Austrian equivalent of Motortrend from '64 or '65 introducing the T-5. that might be some interesting trivia for Mustang fans, although it is written in German of course. I could take scans of it during holidays.
here is something interesting Joe, original Austrian title/ registration papers ( they included a pic of actual car). what's interesting is, that this apears to be a privately imported car, as it has the Mustang badges and is also titled as a Ford Mustang. also a 289 ( 4.7Litre) with 4spd manual.
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haha, Tom, well you never know.... :003:
with all the many cool pics posted lately, your private family pics nearly went unnoticed, great pic of the 55 ( was that a parklane wagon ?) at Cannon Rock Beach
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-12-17 00:03
Sorry guys, I couldn't resist. :002:
And no, I don't feel this way about women at all.
I luvs 'em! :055: :icon_queen:
Proud owner
Strange, I can't remember ever seeing a 52 hardtop. I remember 51's and later but just can't remember ever seeing a 52.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-12-17 05:24
They were sold as T-5s over here as well. There was some other German Company holding the name Mustang, I believe for light motorcycles. My friend's ( and his fathers's) 70 Mach-I of course is a regular Mustang, since he imported it from Canada in 1972 or so.
If you guys are interested, I have an original copy of the Austrian equivalent of Motortrend from '64 or '65 introducing the T-5. that might be some interesting trivia for Mustang fans, although it is written in German of course. I could take scans of it during holidays.
They were trucks, and yes those scan would be great, and we should be able to use Google translator.
"In 1965, the top-selling Mustang in the U.S. was an affordable and attractive Ford coupe. In Germany, the year's top-selling Mustang was a hulking commercial truck.
Decidedly less sporty than America's coupe, Germany's Mustang truck was an ungainly presence on the road, and its two-stroke diesel engine was a noisy, smoking slug. Produced by Krupp Motoren und Kraftwagenfabriken in 1951-68, the Mustang truck's primary claim to fame was that it and Krupp's copyright set up a roadblock for Ford's plans to market its Mustang in Germany.
If you were a G.I. in Germany or a Nordic fan of American cars, you couldn't buy a Ford Mustang, but you could purchase its doppelganger: the Ford T5, a car bearing the cryptic alpha-numeric code that Ford had assigned it during development.
Marketed in Germany from 1965 until Krupp's copyright expired in 1973, the T5 was a Mustang lookalike and drive-alike. A casual observer would be hard pressed to think it was anything other than a Mustang, but there are minor differences. The 1965 T5's had unique hubcaps with a plain center, rather than the galloping horse and Ford Mustang badging. The Mustang name on the front fenders gave way to a T-5 badge, Ford couldn't decide how to spell the two-character name and the Mustang ID on the steering wheel was banished. Most T5's had clear parking lamps rather than amber, and some speedometers were calibrated in kilometers. Practical modifications included extra bracing to fortify the body and a heavy-duty suspension."
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I once did a photo shoot of a T-5 in Olympia WA. I will have to look through my old pics one day and see if I can find that. But it will have to wait until I get back to WA...as I am in Branson MO at the moment.
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The car was listed in a Magazine in 1962 with a build cost of $15K, equivelant to a staggering $127,752.32 today.
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Might be a deal at $127K+ today. I had some clown in a hot rod shop quote me a price of $5k to weld in the frame mods I posted that were done to my '57 frame! FIVE THOUSAND!!!
Needless to say he did not get the job. I found an almost 80 year old guy to do it in 1/2 the time for a touch over $500.00 And that guy was about as nimble as a kid of 25 too! Did a great job!
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-12-17 05:39
haha, Tom, well you never know.... :003:
with all the many cool pics posted lately, your private family pics nearly went unnoticed, great pic of the 55 ( was that a parklane wagon ?) at Cannon Rock Beach
Thanks, G!
I don't know what model that yellow '55 wagon was. Pretty sure it wasn't an 'upscale' model though. That pic was one that my younger brother scanned from my dad's old slides. I keep thinking that there was another pic of the wagon but haven't been able to find it.
So, ok, did some searching on the net & see in a couple places that the Parklane wagon was a one year model only offered in 1956.
"The Ford Parklane is a car that was produced by Ford in the United States for one year only, 1956."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Parklane
Wiki missed the fact that there was a 312 Y block engine in 1956 but Hemmings didn't.
https://www.hemmings.com/blog/article/dearborns-nomad-1956-ford-parklane/
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I still judge the instrument panel by the one in '56 Fords. '57 T-birds have the same layout.
Maybe the yellow '55 was a ranch wagon? If I can find the other pic I might be able to tell. Not sure if that pic even exists.
Speaking of 1956 Y block 312 engines ...
Many years ago some guy that I didn't know told me that this 1956 fender emblem was only used on '56 passenger cars with the 312 engine. I really didn't think he knew what he was talking about but I could be wrong. The '56 Tudor Ranch wagon that I foolishly sold had these fender emblems & the guy that claimed to have rebuilt the engine said it was a 292. The Parklane wagon in my prior post has them & the article seems to indicate that it's running a 292.
It's not like anyone could tell a 292 from a 312 just by looking at it though, so ...??
Anyone have some good info about this? (Wish a had a left side emblem to match this right side one. - EDIT: Maybe I do!)
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-12-17 19:15
Might be a deal at $127K+ today. I had some clown in a hot rod shop quote me a price of $5k to weld in the frame mods I posted that were done to my '57 frame!
I'm always curious about frame & suspension mods. So, what frame mods & where are they posted? 8)
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'56 SUNLINER
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-12-18 03:23
I'm always curious about frame & suspension mods. So, what frame mods & where are they posted? 8)
Tom...go to http://57fordsforever.com/smf/index.php?topic=6415.0 and then to page 5. :003:
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Someone was gonna have several good meals!
OH and the car is sweet too!
Can't remember the last time I saw a ring-necked pheasant.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-12-18 10:52
Tom...go to http://57fordsforever.com/smf/index.php?topic=6415.0 and then to page 5. :003:
Thanks! Yeah, you added a ton of beef to that frame.
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-12-18 23:18
Thanks! Yeah, you added a ton of beef to that frame.
Yea...I was looking for more stiffness and to keep the body lean as close to non-existent as possible. Less twist when I hammer that 390/tri-power.
'55
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One of my favourites.
Licence plate tells it all.
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'60
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-12-20 04:58
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The way they wound up it kinda looks like someone from Midnight Auto Supply swiped the front of one and most of the back of the other to make their own car. :003:
LOL, true.
It was at Le Mans in 1967:
"This was one of the biggest accidents of Mario Andretti's long career. On arrival in the Esses, he hit the brakes and they failed. The steering wheel was wrenched out of his hands and he hammered the outer bank with such force that the engine broke loose. He was able to get out and clamber up the wall, before collapsing on the grass there. Cue Roger McCluskey (Mario's Ford Teammate). He hit the wall deliberately; otherwise he would have struck Andretti's car, and he assumed (wrongly) that its driver was still inside. Jo Schlesser (another Teammate) then arrived amid the debris at full chat, and aimed for a gap between the two wrecks that wasn't there. Both McCluskey and Schlesser emerged from their cars unhurt. Not so Andretti: his shoulder harness had broken three of his ribs and badly bruised his whole torso. Ford had set up its own surgically equipped medical center in the Paddock and had instructed its drivers on no account to allow themselves to be taken to the local hospital. When Andretti, shouting in agony, was carried to the ambulance, he refused to get in. An argument ensued. McCluskey resolved it by going to the front of the ambulance, grabbing the ignition key, and hurling it as far as he could into the woods. Then the big man picked up his Teammate, slung him over his shoulder, and crossed the track. He found a marshal who had a Peugeot estate car, and commandeered it."
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-12-20 16:51
LOL, true.
It was at Le Mans in 1963:
"This was one of the biggest accidents of Mario Andretti's long career. On arrival in the Esses, he hit the brakes and they failed. The steering wheel was wrenched out of his hands and he hammered the outer bank with such force that the engine broke loose. He was able to get out and clamber up the wall, before collapsing on the grass there. Cue Roger McCluskey (Mario's Ford Teammate). He hit the wall deliberately; otherwise he would have struck Andretti's car, and he assumed (wrongly) that its driver was still inside. Jo Schlesser (another Teammate) then arrived amid the debris at full chat, and aimed for a gap between the two wrecks that wasn't there. Both McCluskey and Schlesser emerged from their cars unhurt. Not so Andretti: his shoulder harness had broken three of his ribs and badly bruised his whole torso. Ford had set up its own surgically equipped medical center in the Paddock and had instructed its drivers on no account to allow themselves to be taken to the local hospital. When Andretti, shouting in agony, was carried to the ambulance, he refused to get in. An argument ensued. McCluskey resolved it by going to the front of the ambulance, grabbing the ignition key, and hurling it as far as he could into the woods. Then the big man picked up his Teammate, slung him over his shoulder, and crossed the track. He found a marshal who had a Peugeot estate car, and commandeered it."
WOW! No faith in the French medical system. I have to bet that hurt like hell though being tossed over his teammate's shoulder and carried to the infield! Hope they had some 90 proof pain killer there! LOL!!! :pain10:
Would you? :003:
Sorry, typo on my part, should have been 1967.
More pics:
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-12-20 17:44
Would you? :003:
Sorry, typo on my part, should have been 1967.
More pics:
Nope...only thing French I trust is food and wine. The rest...is...well...French. aka sloppy. (I live within eyesight of Canada...BC...and they aren't all that fond of them either.)
Those cars were just hammered! Amazing the drivers weren't being hauled off in black bags with zippers! Goes to the quality of the frame builds! Amazing!
From your neck of the woods....
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Bell Telephone
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-12-21 06:17
From your neck of the woods....
SWEET! Wonder if that was at the old SIR (Seattle International Raceway) now known as Pacific Raceway? Nice shot!
Mission Raceway Park, also known as MRP, is an auto racing facility located in Mission, British Columbia, Canada. The facility features a - mile NHRA-sanctioned dragstrip, a 2 km 9-turn road course, and a 3 km motocross track.
Too Phuckin Cool....
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2019-12-21 17:05
Mission Raceway Park, also known as MRP, is an auto racing facility located in Mission, British Columbia, Canada. The facility features a - mile NHRA-sanctioned dragstrip, a 2 km 9-turn road course, and a 3 km motocross track.
Ah...okay. Thanks. Haven't been there. Pacific Raceway has a road course as well...but not as many turns. There is another course down in Shelton WA that has a pretty snappy road course I am told...but I've not been there.
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That is too cool! Wouldn't want to crack that open for a drink though! LOL!!!
OK, here is your history lesson for the day.
This picture was taken at Mission Raceway in Mission City, British Columbia. It was a N.H.R.A. sanctioned track and if memory serves me right, Top Fuel and Funny Car National Records were set here. It was closed down for the development of a Fiberglas factory and the British Columbia Custom Car Association agreed to move it about a mile away. Once they were out of there the provincial government screwed them over and we did not have a track for years. By the time Mission Raceway Park was built the town shortened its name to Mission. I worked at the track as a kid and remember the hype when the Gunfighter would come to town. My brother-in-law ran a 289/271 Horsepower 1965 Comet, then moved to a single front engine dragster, twin engine dragster and then an injected Hemi rail. My Mom would let racers leave there cars in our driveway so we began a hangout when that happened. One day my brother and I had to leave the track and hitchhike to Abbotsford, a big Chrysler station wagon with an enclosed trailer stopped to pick us up. I asked who won the race today and the driver said "I did". It was Ed 'the Ace" McCulloch. I met him again this year and shared the story, he made me tell his wife to proof he was a good guy. What a great time it was. With Ed was Top Fuel driver Herm Petersen and Steve Gibbs from N.H.R.A.
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2019-12-21 19:51
OK, here is your history lesson for the day.
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I met him again this year and shared the story, he made me tell his wife to proof he was a good guy. What a great time it was. With Ed was Top Fuel driver Herm Petersen and Steve Gibbs from N.H.R.A.
Who says history isn't cool? Great story! Thanks for the share! :burnout:
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Have to wonder...those kids now being grown men...are they lusting after the car their dad probably sold before they were old enough to lay claim to it? Great pic!
Nice '55
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First look
anyone have that blower setup lying around?
Neat pics. but beyond the cars.....classic modern house design from the 60's, and that guy on Popular Science must be about 6'6"!
Hugh, those kids are not only grown, their kids are gettin' old! Actual mag wheels on the blown setup! 427 ? Any idea what the body on that is.....looks like maybe a Mustang fastback?
Pretty sure it's "Ohio George" Montgomery. 1967 Mustang ran in AA/Gas with the supercharged 427 SOHC then swapped over to a twin turbo Boss 429 and still dominated the class.
The wheels must be Halibrands, magnesium. As far as the supercharger setup, give them a call, their still in business rebuilding race engines, mostly Fords I would think.
Heres a crappy picture I took of it in around 1970 when I was around 12-13 years old?
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So..... for the past week,.....I have been lusting over this 1964 A/FX Comet....
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.....Then I found out.. My pal Garry Thomson.... built it!!!!!!!!
Yes.... a real deal A/FX 427 Factory race car.
and the kicker is..... the owner(car now sold at Barrett Jackson) lives 40 minutes from me..... Small small world
here is the vid link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiEtWG3omWA
This one lives up the road from me in Chilliwack, British Columbia. When you climb under the back you will see the bumper all scraped from lifting the front end all the way up. Cool piece of history.
Sounds good, smells great.
T/F
Scraped back bumpers are good! :003:
This is from the German Auto-Motor-Sport magazine from Summer 1964 ! test driving the T5- Mustang ! what's interesting is that it appears to have radial sports tires ! :icon_cyclops_ani: possibly an export feature ?
Joe, you were right with the Krupp Mustang truck, but I was also right, as Kreidler had a moped called Mustang as well.
The T5 runs a K- license plate, K for Koeln i.e. Cologne. the town German Fords were built. so this was probably a corporate test car.
tail end. those are interesting tires !
Lets not forget about "Marvel the Mustang" by Marx toys.
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Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2019-12-21 19:51
OK, here is your history lesson for the day.
This picture was taken at Mission Raceway in Mission City, British Columbia. It was a N.H.R.A. sanctioned track and if memory serves me right, Top Fuel and Funny Car National Records were set here. It was closed down for the development of a Fiberglas factory and the British Columbia Custom Car Association agreed to move it about a mile away. Once they were out of there the provincial government screwed them over and we did not have a track for years.
Just to add a bit to the story of Mission Raceway in BC Canada, the original dragstrip was first opened in 1965, and ran thru the end of the 1978 racing season, when it was closed to allow the construction of a large fiberglass factory on the tracks site. Since the old track was right beside a railway line, it was desirable for locating a factory. Unfortunately, the BC government failed to live up to their promise to supply the property to build a new track, so the car club (BC Custom Car Club) which owned, built and operated the track, spent many years in court fighting to government , in the late 80s, the club was given some land right beside the Fraser river, but it was basically useless, as it was on the water side of the dike, but after several years of pumping sand obtained through dredging of the Fraser river, there was finally enough fill to start building the new track. The new dragstrip finally opened in 1992, and has been in constant operation since. The track is still owned and operated by the same car club, and has enjoyed continual improvements over the years. I made my first 1/4 mile passes at the original track in 1974 (in a 57 Ford Sedan Delivery), raced at most of the races from that point on, including the last race in 1978. From 79 thru 1986, any drag racing for us meant a 3 hour haul down to Seattle International Raceway, or Bremerton Raceway in Washington, or 5 hours to Woodburn Oregon. In 1987, a new dragstrip opened near Ashcroft/Cache Creek BC, about 4 hours North of Vancouver. I was at opening day of the new Mission track in 1992, and have raced at least a dozen races a year since.(Always in a Ford, of course!)
Thanks for the history. Never made it up to either of the tracks for racing...even though I have been in WA since '72. My car days ended in'76 pretty much when I started getting more into law enforcement. too bad too because my white Courier was a race car at one time.
The next time it sees a track I'll be living n Missouri...and probably be close to 70. I'll run it though... a buddy of mine is 73 and still running his Corvette...and I am still in pretty good physical shape for that sort of thing. So I'll do a few for fun...assuming I can remember how! LOL!!!
But it is nice to learn about the history there. Heck...maybe I'll trailer the ol' gal up for a weekend of runs one day. My youngest is planning on staying in Port Angeles after the wife and I move...so we'll see. Thanks! :burnout:
Imagine finding this under the tree !
The Dick Morse Bluebird coupe.. Any of you New England guys knew him?..I met Dick a few times.. Quite a character!
Injected 312 was the power.
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Rory, did you ever get to race at Boundary bay raceway? I think it was only in operation for around 3-4 years, 74-78? I got to race there a few times in my old 65 Mustang fastback.
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Quote from: hemidave on 2019-12-24 05:32
Imagine finding this under the tree !
Imagine what one of those in mint shape is worth today! I'd love to have one of those under my tree today! Model or real! LOL!!!
I know this should probably be in the coffee thread...but we were talking about B.C. Canada racers and tracks...and then this story popped up this morning on MSN and I had to share it...so...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/this-82-year-old-drag-racer-isnt-slowing-down/ar-BBYj4qc?li=BBnb4R5#image=BBYj4pQ|1
How many of us wanna be this guy when we "grow up"? LOL!!! :burnout:
Bill is awesome, crews himself, after the races he stuffs a slick in the truck, the other in passenger seat and drives it home to Vancouver Island.
I feel younger already.
T/F
I might have figured you knew him or at least of him. Great story! I wanna be him...yea...I do! :003:
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-12-24 11:52
I know this should probably be in the coffee thread...but we were talking about B.C. Canada racers and tracks...and then this story popped up this morning on MSN and I had to share it...so...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/this-82-year-old-drag-racer-isnt-slowing-down/ar-BBYj4qc?li=BBnb4R5#image=BBYj4pQ|1
How many of us wanna be this guy when we "grow up"? LOL!!! :burnout:
Thanks for posting that. I admire his dedication and doing things his way. He must get some funny looks from passengers when he hops out of his Comet after boarding the ferry.
The hot rod that started it all. Ed "Isky" Iskenderian posed next to his famous -24 T-bucket. He originally bought it in high school in 1938. Ten years later it was the cover car for the brand new Hot Rod magazine in June of 1948.
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What a character, and that T is just brilliant. I believe Jim stated that he is still alive and well at 98 yrs old ?
That is NOT a crappy photo, Randy, it is just GREAT! It is photography in action, totally captures the speed of the sport! it is exactly what we younger guys might be jealous of, not having been there. I love it !
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-12-23 10:09
Heres a crappy picture I took of it in around 1970 when I was around 12-13 years old?
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Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-12-24 15:56
Thanks for posting that. I admire his dedication and doing things his way. He must get some funny looks from passengers when he hops out of his Comet after boarding the ferry.
Sure...happy to. I suspected you guys across the water from me might know him and would like the story.
Yea...I bet he does get some looks when that baby pulls on the boat screaming "LISTEN TO ME...LOOK AT ME"...and he crawls out form behind the wheel! I'd be heading toward him lickety-split wan to look under his hood and bench race! LOL!!! He is my new hero!
Not really Fords, but close enough. These were parked just across the border in Oroville, Washington. Oroville is in the Okanagan valley, and has a semi-arid climate so the cars were all quite solid even after sitting outside for years.
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Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-12-24 18:38
Not really Fords, but close enough. These were parked just across the border in Oroville, Washington. Oroville is in the Okanagan valley, and has a semi-arid climate so the cars were all quite solid even after sitting outside for years.
Sure they are Fords. Just don't get the respect. When did you shoot that pic? Any idea if they are still there? (just what I need...yet another car to move across the country right? LOL!!! don't tell my wife I asked!)
The picture was taken on May 4th, 2004 at 12.26 pm. I almost bought the 58 Villager on the end but just couldn't agree on the price. From what I remember he wanted $1700 for it. The cars were on the back 40 of an auto parts store and since then I was told the owner sold the business and moved to Idaho. Not sure if he took the Edsel's with him though.
Oh I so do not need to ask what I am about to ask...have an address? Or name of the street? I'm setting the ground work to get myself in trouble here....LOL!!!
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-12-23 19:44Lets not forget about "Marvel the Mustang" by Marx toys.
Better yet don't forget the neat little Mustang motorcycles that weren't just kid's toys. I'd have loved to have one when I was 13, 14, 15 or so instead of the 50cc Allstate moped that started my lifelong love of bikes. I still ride & will as long as I can still swing a leg over a bike.
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They were good lookin' little bikes back then & the chrome wire spoke wheels looked great even though they were a bit small.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustang_(motorcycle)
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Merry Christmas Everyone !
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-12-24 21:27
Oh I so do not need to ask what I am about to ask...have an address? Or name of the street? I'm setting the ground work to get myself in trouble here....LOL!!!
There were on the south end of Oroville. From I could see and remember on Google earth it was on Highway 97 and Bob Neil road. There are still a few old cars out front sale it looks like, but I didn't see any Edsels out back from the aerial view. But hey, you never know, maybe the whoever owned them still has them or knows where they are.
Merry Christmas.
Randy
Thanks...might take a slight detour on the way home for some...er...ah...sightseeing! LOL!!! :003:
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'60
Here are some Canadian models with Canadian colour combinations.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-12-25 09:56
There were on the south end of Oroville. From I could see and remember on Google earth it was on Highway 97 and Bob Neil road. There are still a few old cars out front sale it looks like ...
Could this be the place where all the cars are parked along Hwy 97?
The second pic is the street view pic looking southeast on 97 just because it shows the Mercury at the end of the row. Pic is actually labeled as being from 2008, not the 2019 that shows on all of these. It's just too fuzzy to read any of the business signs.
(Just wanna help 'Mustang6984' stay in good graces his wife. ... Oh Wait! :002: )
She is already more than aware of my addiction I fear. I once bought a car (my'84 SVO Mustang) and kept it hidden in my shop for a couple of moths without telling her. And I lived to tell about it! LOL!!!
Yup, that looks lke the place. I thought it was auto parts store but looks to be more of a heavy equipment repair? This time of the year I would expect less than ideal driving conditions. In the summer it's a beautiful drive.
I love google earth, particularly street view. I go on many roadtrips without leaving my computer.
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'56
These first generation Econolines weren't very good. In high school I had a job as a stock boy for a locally owned drug & variety store. Everyday I loaded up & delivered supplies from the main store to the 4 other stores in town in one of these things.
They had just about zero traction in the snow. But it did convince me that I wanted a van & a few years later was able to get the much better second generation Econoline. Used for many years as a daily driver, motorcycle, & whatever else, hauler & camping rig. I have several now in various states & need to get one of them fixed up like my 2nd one was. If I could only have one vehicle it probably would be a 2nd gen Econoline or something very much like it. A very versatile do-everything vehicle. Any of you guys ever have an Econoline van?
A couple pix of 1st gens.
A 1968/'69 thru 1974 2nd generation Econoline 'window Van'.
not exactly an Econoline, but a 1st generation Ford van as well! My trusted cargo van of 15 years, a German built 1964 Ford FK1250 (1250kg =1-1/4 metric tons cargo). Former fire engine, og paint, matching #, now about 30.000 original miles, about 10.000 put on by me. it is about the size of a VW Kombi, but it is NOT a VW :002: Ford FK1250 Transit has watercooled L4 front engine and rear drive.
and a few of my 57s in the mix. :003:
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-12-27 09:23
... (1250kg =1-1/4 metric tons cargo) ...
That's 2755 pounds avoirdupois, our 1.378 tons. I wonder if that the weight of that little van. I doubt it could be the payload capacity but it might even be the total of it's weight & it's total 'allowed maximin' payload weight. :dontknow:
Sometimes the way factories determine & publish the specs on some of that weight & payload stuff can be a bit confusing.
Edit: Corrected my dumb '2755 lbs = 2.775 tons' mistake. 2000 Lbs is one ton.
hello, I drove what I remember was a 1963 ford Econoline, I put a 289 in when the 6 cylinder quit.. this is in San Diego,1974.. While I'm at it the car I drove at that time also with a 289-4 speed and a little more power!!
sorry about the sideways pics it's been awhile, one more try the 65 interior
sweet rides, both van and Mustang !
well no, Tom, you understood that quite right. there is not much difference between the US and metric ton. 1 metric ton is approx. 1.1 US tons. and in Europe we have a total different understanding of 'light' trucks or vans. I can't help laughing when I think about the typical US half ton trucks.... 2 tons of truck and 1/2 ton of payload.... :003: please forgive me. Here in Europe the cars/trucks/vans were very light and small and engineered totally different. it is not mistake, my German van weighs about 1.25 US tons and has a payload of about 1.4 US tons. it's rated with more payload than own net weight.
Quote from: glenmichael on 2019-12-27 12:12
sorry about the sideways pics it's been awhile, one more try the 65 interior
Looks like the 3-pedal set up was a conversion. Used to have an automatic, probably a C-4 in it. did you do the swap yourself?
Heres some proof Tom. A van full of spare parts and stuff on top. or 3 Flathead engines, an axle and some more stuff. the little Ford van takes it all ! :003:
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The silver 1965 2+2 Mustang I bought in California, 1973 factory 289 with 4-speed, we re-built motor and trans, I added the vertical gate shifter and went through a lot of gas!! this photo was taken across the street from the van on the same day 1974.. my 70's way of dressing only the Hair has changed, no hair today or mustang..
No hair for me either...but I do have 4 Mustangs. None in '70 though. Just an old 4-door '56 Bow-tie station wagon. In spring of '71 came the first '57 Ford...which I still have...a white retired drag car...my first Courier. The motor has long ago been sold but everything else (suspension and transmission) still with me.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-12-27 12:15
... I can't help laughing when I think about the typical US half ton trucks.... 2 tons of truck and 1/2 ton of payload....
I hear ya! I'm having a hard time understanding why these US pickups seem to just be getting bigger & heavier. Also why so many people drive them when they are hardly ever used to haul anything but somebody's butt back & forth to work.
I'm definitely not a pickup guy. Except for Rancheros. :001:
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-12-27 12:15...
my German van weighs about 1.25 US tons and has a payload of about 1.4 US tons. it's rated with more payload than own net weight.
Didn't expect that! Very impressive!
Some of these Econolines had more payload capacity than the Ford pickups of the same year. I saw that depending on the which model you picked in the old 2nd gen Econos you could get up to a 4,320 lb payload capacity.
That would have been a 1 ton E300 model with those horrible 16.5" tires, 8 lug wheels & a Dana rearend. Don't like those or the E100 with it's tiny brakes & I think, 14" wheels. I like the 3/4 ton E150s, with bigger brakes & 15" wheels.
Could hardly find a used Econoline van around here in 1971 when I got my 1st one. Ended up with a 1969 240" six powered one. Gutless.
Got a used '69 351W 2 barrel engine with a 4 barrel carb & swapped it in. Wrecked that van a few years later & after a while got '72 with a 302 & automatic. I hate automatic transmissions. Because of the trans I kept getting stuck in deep snow. Swapped in the 351w & stick shift trans & put on some headers. Used to outrun Chevy pickups at the stop light drags. Never got beat. Biggest engines those vans came with was a two barrel 302. I could now go thru deep snow too.
That thing went everywhere & hauled everything.
"How did you get in here without 4 wheel drive?!" :003:
Made some narrow cabinets with a countertop for a camp stove. Made a fold down bed for two. Could still carry 4' X 8' sheets of plywood. Could haul my dirt bike & camp at the same time.
The ole killer van eventually rusted away. Was also t-boned by a taxi cab. :(
Took off the 'mag' wheels & still have it 'cause there just ain't any parts around for these things. It's just filled up with a bunch of parts now. It must have taken me 20 years to find another 2nd gen Econoline here. Tried and still have couple of the 3rd Gen ones but like the big pickups they are just too long & hard to maneuver it tight places.
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1951 Ford Tudor
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Tom, I think I can fully understand your appreciation for that Econoline. It seems to be the perfect combo of everything with a SWB, sliding door, V8, manual, 15" wheels aso... it appears to also be a walkthrough and did it have swivel seats ?
I am not a Van person per se, but I just love useful and multi purpose cars/trucks/vans. Guys like us we just always seem to tinker around with something and need to haul parts, engines, flooring, lumber, furniture, machinery, I don't know. also the size of a van is extremely important. I am living in an old town with rather small streets and parking lots, so that is why I prefer my old SWB Ford van to more modern or larger vans. also these old boxy vans, they were just designed to have LOTS of space. No insulation, no side impact this and that, no plastic coverings or unneccesary gadgets. I love these very basic down to earth vehicles. I hear every word you say about your old van. even though it has all the cabinets in it, it still has SO MUCH space and cargo area left. and lets not forget about the great camping vans these make, basically for free. put in some crates or a little cabinet for storage, some camping beds or matress and you're good to go. I have slept in mine countless times when visiting friends, attending music festivals or just hauling parts long distance. it has moved so many parts to and from sandblasting facility. I believe nearly every car or bike that I restored has had some of its parts moved around in the van. :003: I believe we should open our own van thread in off topic, so we don't spoil this thread here too much, let's keep this for OLD Ford pics !
Quote from: Tom S on 2019-12-27 15:38
Made some narrow cabinets with a countertop for a camp stove. Made a fold down bed for two. Could still carry 4' X 8' sheets of plywood. Could haul my dirt bike & camp at the same time.
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Dave...and a 2-door at that!!!
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-12-28 07:56
Tom, I think I can fully understand your appreciation for that Econoline. It seems to be the perfect combo of everything with a SWB, sliding door, V8, manual, 15" wheels aso... it appears to also be a walkthrough and did it have swivel seats ?
I never put any swivel seats in it but did use a low back reclining seat on the passenger side. One of the advantages was that it made room to haul some very long & narrow things when folded down.
I hated that sliding sliding side door, the swing open doors work much better.
A SWB? There was a 105.5" short wheel base model but I liked the 123.5" wheel base ones. Even then they were actually 2" shorter than 1948 thru 1952 Ford F1 pickups.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2019-12-28 07:56
I believe we should open our own van thread in off topic, so we don't spoil this thread here too much, let's keep this for OLD Ford pics !
I thought about that & have tons of info & pix. Do you think there would there be much interest here?
By the same token I can't imagine that anyone would object to posting some pics & less of my blabbering on about these old Fords. No?
This pop-top would fit in the garage. :055:
1939 Ford Deluxe
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When I first started with my brother in laws company, we had 2 brand new 1974 Ford vans, 302, 3 speed. They performed great. I did a timing chain replace and had a valve job done on each at 100,000 miles and they were good till the next 100. Then we got the next style, I think 1980s, and with 351s and ATs, they ran 300,000 miles plus with no issues.
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This is a very young actress by the name of Angie Dickinson who, in 1964, starred with Lee Marvin and John Cassavetes in a movie called The Killers
Attention
The gal with the jeans assured herself guys would ALWAYS be looking at her butt! LOL!!!
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WOW--- is all I can say. as if the blown 4x2 setback Flathead 34 Coupe wasn't enough already....
https://www.automotivehalloffame.org/honoree/craig-breedlove/
The aftermath of the Shelby pit fire at Daytona 1964
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Taxi anyone
I just wanted to pass along for those who have Netflix there is a pretty good documentary called the Shelby Story. Watched it last night and thought it was pretty good. Focuses a lot on the 64-66 era when the racing and Shelby production were really ramping up. Definitely worth checking out.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-12-30 11:23
I just wanted to pass along for those who have Netflix there is a pretty good documentary called the Shelby Story. Watched it last night and thought it was pretty good. Focuses a lot on the 64-66 era when the racing and Shelby production were really ramping up. Definitely worth checking out.
Thanks...watching a lot of Netflix these days as I am out in Branson. I will check it ot tonight.
178 mph in 1951 with flathead power.
'In the early 1950s, Fred "Spade" Carillo modified several cars for competition in the SCTA Road Runners Club. Carillo would eventually forge a career designing and manufacturing tubular con-rods in Le Mans-winning Ford GT40s, as well as Jack Brabham's 1966 World Drivers Championship-winning racecar.'
1926-27 T on Deuce rails.
Don't be gentle; it's a rental
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A Rent-A-Racer! Wonder if it was one of the few with a 4-speed or had it an automatic?
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-12-30 11:23
I just wanted to pass along for those who have Netflix there is a pretty good documentary called the Shelby Story. Watched it last night and thought it was pretty good. Focuses a lot on the 64-66 era when the racing and Shelby production were really ramping up. Definitely worth checking out.
Just watched the Shelby Story documentary. That was nothing short of grand! When I get back to WA I get to go over to Gordon Chance's place and tell him what a stud he was with his gloved hands in his parts of the story! He lives in Sequim WA now, and is still a car nut in his mid-70's, still building cars albeit a little slower these days than those days. Allen Grant lived in the area for a time and I met him as well a couple of times. But Gordon is one of those guys even today that when you meet him...he NEVER forgets you. And the stories he has to tell...yea...entertaining each time we sit down.
If you don't have Netflix...find someone who does...and bring some snacks and watch it. Best 2 hours I have spent in front of a TV in a long time. My opinion...it gives Ford vs Ferrari a run for it's money!
Thanks for the heads up about the documentary.
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1933-5 Ford, Southern California, top chop in progress.
great pic ! probably a 33 according to hubcaps and rear bumper ( narrow bolt distance). There's another 33/4 sitting to the right and the gutted flathead to the left, along with the flywheel and clutch. sitting behind is what could be the og transmission with the straight Model 18/40/48 shifter ( as opposed to the swan neck 36 up)
1952
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-12-31 01:07
Just watched the Shelby Story documentary. That was nothing short of grand! When I get back to WA I get to go over to Gordon Chance's place and tell him what a stud he was with his gloved hands in his parts of the story! He lives in Sequim WA now, and is still a car nut in his mid-70's, still building cars albeit a little slower these days than those days. Allen Grant lived in the area for a time and I met him as well a couple of times. But Gordon is one of those guys even today that when you meet him...he NEVER forgets you. And the stories he has to tell...yea...entertaining each time we sit down.
If you don't have Netflix...find someone who does...and bring some snacks and watch it. Best 2 hours I have spent in front of a TV in a long time. My opinion...it gives Ford vs Ferrari a run for it's money!
Thanks for the heads up about the documentary.
If you have nothing better to do on new years eve there's a movie called "The 24 hour war" on Netflix also. Of coarse it focuses on the 64-66 Daytona, Sebring, Le Mans races. Enjoy!
I will check that out. Thanks.
Fred Kiy's '32 Ford roadster
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Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-12-30 17:59... Wonder if it was one of the few with a 4-speed or had it an automatic?
Here's one.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0120-397159/1966-shelby-gt350h-fastback/?utm_source=AAInfoNet+Master&utm_campaign=e2f553743d-FL20_Wellborn_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_fa410e9114-e2f553743d-112654645&goal=0_fa410e9114-e2f553743d-112654645&mc_cid=e2f553743d&mc_eid=a41116760c
Nice...was an automatic car originally though I see. Looks like a very clean install on the 4-speed though. Sadly...I am just a wee bit shy on the cash flow! LOL!!!
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'57
Quote from: rmk57 on 2019-12-31 10:58
If you have nothing better to do on new years eve there's a movie called "The 24 hour war" on Netflix also. Of coarse it focuses on the 64-66 Daytona, Sebring, Le Mans races. Enjoy!
Watched "The 24 Hour War" last night. Great piece on the rivalry. Saw a lot more of Gordon in that one also. Going to have some fun telling him how he is a famous movie star! LOL!!!
Through all what was going on in those days with Shelby's racing program and car production I think the guy that deserves a ton of credit is Phil Remington. Man was genius, problem solver, fabricator, he just did everything. Big part of why Shelby had the success he did.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-01-01 12:10
Through all what was going on in those days with Shelby's racing program and car production I think the guy that deserves a ton of credit is Phil Remington. Man was genius, problem solver, fabricator, he just did everything. Big part of why Shelby had the success he did.
Yea...I think Gordon made that same observation in "24"...the guy was a sheet metal guru. I have a friend (who introduced me to Gordon actually) who knows all the guys involved in the creation of the Daytona and he said that without Remington that car never sees daylight let alone the track.
Wish I had a 1/10 of his metal talent!
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2019-12-31 22:58
Nice...was an automatic car originally though I see.
Ha!
That car just happened to pop up in my email about the same time the 'rent a racer' post did.
I hadn't read the description so didn't know that somebody had used good sense & got rid of that auto trans.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-01-01 12:10Through all what was going on in those days with Shelby's racing program and car production I think the guy that deserves a ton of credit is Phil Remington. Man was genius, problem solver, fabricator, he just did everything. Big part of why Shelby had the success he did.
I agree 100% & was disappointed that he wasn't highlighted a lot in the Ford V Ferrari flick. They left out a lot of things that I wish they had mentioned.
Before I'd seen that flick a friend sent this link to a great article about Phil Remington. He was a lot more than just the afore mentioned 'sheet metal guru' It's well worth the read.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a4708/features-magazines-features-the-life-of-phil-remington/
Quote from: Tom S on 2020-01-01 15:21
Ha!
That car just happened to pop up in my email about the same time the 'rent a racer' post did.
I hadn't read the description so didn't know that somebody had used good sense & got rid of that auto trans.
The problem with having done that though is they lowered the value of the car. Since it no longer vin# correct...I seriously doubt they will get anywhere near the price they are dreaming of. I wouldn't pay that for it. Buying as a collector one looks for those things that will help it's value enhance over the years. While it will appreciate in time...it will always NOT be an original which is what brings the heavy dollars.
X 3 On Phil Remington, shame how Shelby pushed him aside when Ford took over.
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Ford endurance test Istanbul 1957
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Daytona, 1965
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Daytona, 1967. Pondering transmission problems of a Ford Mk II B
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The love of his life, wife of 50 years, the late Joy Remington
In the one I watched last night Carroll can be heard saying that it was out of his hands, that he worked for Henry Ford and he really didn't have any say in the decision either and wasn't going to buck Mr. Ford. I got the impression he didn't agree with the decision...but since Carroll's operation was at that point part of Ford Motor Company...well...he was put of the controlling grouop on those decisions.
I also got the feeling that was part of the reason he himself left after a bit...same reason he chose not to work for Ferrari when Enzo offered him a position...too many politics...not enough control over his decisions.
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POLICE
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1950 Ford
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One of my favorite Twilight Zone episodes "You Drive"
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-01-03 17:20
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Shirley Shahan in the "Drag-on Lady" AMX in the background. How cool is that!
Here's one more I took at Lions drag strip I think in 1970? Funny cars were all the rage back then and most of the great ones were their. Mickey Thompsons Mach 1, Larry Goldsteins Ramcharger Dodge, Ronald Leongs Hawaiian, Don Schumachers Kingfish Barracuda, Jungle Jim leibermans Camaro, Seatons Shaker, Connie Kalitta, Big John Mazmanian of coarse and lots more. I was 13 years old at the time and idolized these guys. The pic is Tommy Grove and it did run a SOHC in it and thats my big sister posing.
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Supervan
Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-01-03 20:17
Here's one more I took at Lions drag strip I think in 1970? Funny cars were all the rage back then and most of the great ones were their. Mickey Thompsons Mach 1, Larry Goldsteins Ramcharger Dodge, Ronald Leongs Hawaiian, Don Schumachers Kingfish Barracuda, Jungle Jim leibermans Camaro, Seatons Shaker, Connie Kalitta, Big John Mazmanian of coarse and lots more. I was 13 years old at the time and idolized these guys. The pic is Tommy Grove and it did run a SOHC in it and thats my big sister posing.
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Really cool picture, wish I still had the stuff I took years ago. bawl
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57
Looks like a tight fit. Didn't they have a jack?
Yea...was a tight fit. Jack is the one who took the pic! :003:
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VERY NICE
Indeed! Car is pretty nice too... :003:
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I believe Pat F. has one of those Babies G!....
I can't get at my original pics ow because they are in my P/C at home...but this is one I shot for a magazine years ago. It is on my website. There are others on the site as well from the same photo shoot.
https://fineartamerica.com/featured/1970-boss-429-mustang-hugh-carino.html
This is mine from a couple years ago after getting the engine back in. Have not really driven it since 2008. Mine really isn't even in the same league as the black jade 69 pictured above.
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Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-01-05 19:31
This is mine from a couple years ago after getting the engine back in. Have not really driven it since 2008. Mine really isn't even in the same league as the black jade 69 pictured above.
But it is the 'right' color! (http://57fordsforever.com/smf/Smileys/default/thumbsup.gif)
Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-01-05 19:31
This is mine from a couple years ago after getting the engine back in. Have not really driven it since 2008. Mine really isn't even in the same league as the black jade 69 pictured above.
Looks nice enough to me. If you are looking to unload it frm your garage...my birthday is in march! LOL!!! :blob10:
This '52 conv was owned by a friend who I go out to lunch with once a week.
This isn't MN, MI, MA, MD or even ME .... :003:....check the country badge on the rear bumper, guys !
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Is that country code an A, what country? I've seen extreme rust, this is one of the worst.
A stands for Austria. :002:
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Model T Binford ND
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1964
Dave..you know what sucks about pics like this? We see these beautiful cars, with beauty babes...and then we realize...those beauty babes...are in their late 70's to early 80's today. Makes us who were around when these pics were taken feel old! :-\
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From a member on the HAMB:
"Charlie Ryan, who recorded the rockabilly song "Hot Rod Lincoln" in 1955 was born on Dec. 19 in 1915. The song, a snapshot of the Western hot rod scene, was released later in 1957. I took this photo in 1973 in front of the Fox Theater in Missoula. Charlie had been hired for the opening of the film "American Graffiti" there. Apologetically, he told me his wheels had been stolen the night before and he had to borrow the set seen here to make the appearance. The red rod pictured is far more ratty and real than the version later sold at the Barrett-Jackson auction for a reported $97,000 and seems to be the original Model A body on a Lincoln chassis ("looks like a pup"). The Lincoln bumperettes appear not joined at this time. Mr. Ryan departed for that great hot rod race in the sky in 2008, but left us with a inspiring historical poem."
1964 Ford Aurora concept wagon. what an incredible piece of art !
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-01-06 13:45
A stands for Austria. :002:
Holy Moly !!!!!!! I thought North East Rot was Bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
'57 AD
New 1968 Torinos and Cyclone bodies in white await transformation into Grand National Racers for @ Holman & Moody 1967
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SWEET! Wonder what one of those would be worth today had it survived all these years?
1st pic: Robert Sheldon (left) and two passengers in a Model T Ford somewhere along the Valdez-Fairbanks Trail in 1913.
This was the first car to travel the the Valdez-Fairbanks Trail.
The old Valdez Trail is now the Richardson Highway, a paved, generally two-lane, 366-mile artery from Valdez to Fairbanks through the heart of Alaska.
"With his father Robert Sheldon arrived in Skagway as a teenager in 1897 and stayed after his father died. By 1903 he was an engineer with the local power company and smitten with a young lady. Seeking to impress her & with nothing more than magazine pictures to guide him Sheldon built Alaska?s first car from materials he scavenged around town.
He located four buggy wheels and built a frame over them. He then salvaged an old marine engine, put some gears on it and made a chain drive. The car could carry two passengers at the dizzying speed of 15 miles an hour."
2nd pic, the 'Richardson Hwy' 1923
"Robert 'Bobby' Sheldon drove in the first organized car race in Fairbanks, held on July 5, 1917. The rules required that the cars be stripped down and carry both a driver and mechanic. Sheldon won that race and the $500 prize in a Model T Ford. That was a lot of money at the time--more than the factory price of a new Model T."
So...the question here is...did young Master Sheldon get the girl?
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SHOP CLASS
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Fairlanes on the Holman Moody waiting list to become NASCAR Grand National Racers 1967
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Which one was Mario Andretti's ? :003: He won the Daytona 500 in 67 I believe. One of the most talented drivers of all time , he could drive anything and be competitive.
Feel sorry for this guy. Changing spark plugs in a FE Mustang.......
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UGH! Me too. the back plug on the driver's side was best done when the car was on a lift. Talk about shoe-horning an engine into a bay...
Changing plugs in a FE Mustang...???..LOL!
Check out his "super special" spark plug extension laying on the shock tower.
My favorite "FE plug tool set up" was a Champion brand 3/8" drive spark plug socket, because they had a magnet to hold the plug in the socket. Then a 3/8" impact wobble, which is like a U-Joint, but rotates much smoother. Then it was connected to a 1/2" drive 24" extension, which is much stiffer than a 3/8" extension. I always used a 3/8" Champion Brand swivel head plug ratchet. A section of vacuum hose works well to start plugs in the hard to reach holes.
This was used to tighten, and to remove plugs and works for every cylinder "from the top". It also works on cars equipped with the air injection (Thermactor) tubes. The hardest part was getting the spark plug boots off because the heat made the boots stick to the porcelain plugs.
My best advice is to let it cool over night. It's not easy to do a quick FE plug change between rounds in a Mustang/Fairlane bodied car.
My father had a 1967 390 XL Ranchero which has basically the same engine compartment as a Mustang and he used put aside 3 or so hours for a plug change. Lots of colorful language coming from the garage on a Saturday afternoon.
I remember my mechanic neighbor laughing at me one day in the garage trying to change plugs in my '67 Cougar XR7 GT. After a few hours of harrassing me, he said "let me do it for ya, I'll have them in in no time". Bet that was the last time he said that about a 390 in a Cougar or Mustang.
Didn't realize how rare those CougarGT's were......you think finding a '67 Mustang with a 390 is tough.....Do ya think I wished I still had it?
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The Astro was created by Bill Cushenberry of Cushenberry Custom Shop. It was based on a 1963 Ford Galaxie Convertible. He used Ford's traditional round taillight theme as motif for the front end of the car.
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Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-01-10 13:10
I remember my mechanic neighbor laughing at me one day in the garage trying to change plugs in my '67 Cougar XR7 GT. After a few hours of harrassing me, he said "let me do it for ya, I'll have them in in no time". Bet that was the last time he said that about a 390 in a Cougar or Mustang.
Didn't realize how rare those CougarGT's were......you think finding a '67 Mustang with a 390 is tough.....Do ya think I wished I still had it?
I have owned 3 428 Cobra Jet 69/70 Mach 1s, 2 428 CJ 69 Fairlane Cobras, and a 66 390 Fairlane GTA. For the past 22 years, I have been a mechanic at a Toyota dealership, and I would much prefer to change all 8 spark plugs on a FE Mustang or Fairlane, than the rear 3 plugs on a V6 Toyota RAV4, Highlanger, Sienna van, or Camry!
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Yesterday I watched the "Bullitt Mustang" at Mecum Kissemmee in person sell for 3.4M !
Sure hope it goes to a museum somewhere that will allow a major part of the country to see it when they want to. Cause at that price....it won't be showing up on the roadways or in car shows.
Quote from: fdlrc on 2020-01-06 13:37
Is that country code an A, what country? I've seen extreme rust, this is one of the worst.
Replying to fdlrc's comment on this http://57fordsforever.com/smf/index.php?topic=7503.msg73997#msg73997
Here's some extreme rust on my a taxi cab t-boned Econoline & a '53 Stude that needed a crude roadside alignment before being flat-towed 190 miles on 2 lane highways. :051: all the way. :001:
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Thunder Road
Looks like a 51 ford dash.
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NICE '57
I think if we could see more of the car...it might well be. LOL!!!
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I'v won a lot of awards and jackets but don't remember any of the presenters looking like that.
Yea...me too! Most of them have been guys...or...well...not like that!
Dean Jeffries customized this Falcon..
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Probably am going to take a beating, but to me this Jeffries built Falcon is one of the prettiest sports cars (concept cars) ever built ! it just works so well in its fastback shape ( really just sail panels) and typical Falcon/Comet side coves, yet has all the futuristic Kustom touches of the era while still keeping it a sports car with a terrific stance/wheel/tire combo. I just absolutely love it !
Maybe it's my European influence.
What do you guys think of these ? Been in Dutch. I mean, they come from the Netherlands... :003:
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ps. didn't know you could go pheasont hunting in Harlem ! :003:
it still exists !
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http://bzerob.com/garage/mustang65/mustang65-odd-countrywagon.html (http://bzerob.com/garage/mustang65/mustang65-odd-countrywagon.html)
Boy, I never would have considered towing a car trailer with my old Mustang. I really like the car, could you give us a brief history on the car. I remember pictures years ago regarding Mustang concept cars, but they may have been customs, not concepts. I imagine this wagon is built with steel vs. some sort of plastic kit?
I see AMC AMX styling cues on the fastback roof line.
I like pink
Maybe you missed the link I posted on the bottom of original post. it is in English and has lots more info and detail pics.
I too think the lines work great and it is an awesome sporty wgn.
http://bzerob.com/garage/mustang65/mustang65-odd-countrywagon.html
Quote from: fdlrc on 2020-01-14 07:14
Boy, I never would have considered towing a car trailer with my old Mustang. I really like the car, could you give us a brief history on the car. I remember pictures years ago regarding Mustang concept cars, but they may have been customs, not concepts. I imagine this wagon is built with steel vs. some sort of plastic kit?
I thought exactly the same about the AMX design clues on the Falcon Custom. Not a big Muscle car fan but I really do like the AMX myself, don't know why...! :003:
Quote from: fdlrc on 2020-01-14 07:14
I see AMC AMX styling cues on the fastback roof line.
I like the Jeffries Falcon and the Mustang wagons as well. I wonder when the Mustangs were made, that is, as NEW , or as modifying a bunch of 10 or 15 year old cars. What got me wondering was the www. on the hunting themed ad. As far as a towing vehicle, I would think that would be a European thing more than US.
Rich, I am pretty much convinced it is a period (1965/66) build! it has period Dutch license plates. I know these from Dutch friends and my Volkswagen interest. also the script font of the (hunting) advertisement is very much European mid 1960s like. here is another pic from the webside.
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Looks like the tailights would come awfully close to the bumper when the tailgates down. It's not typically the way you see station wagons built. Never mind ,I opened the link and see the the way it operates. It's just "ok" for my taste, although I do like it better than the new Mustang Mach e suv as far as station wagon pony cars that is.
you have a point there Randy. Whoever came up with that foolish idea to put that iconic pony on a 2ton electric 4dr hatchback, imho it wasn't a good idea... :003:
The Mach E is what happens when you legalize pot...and then let the potheads work in the design division of a car manufacturer. They have no respect for the name of Mustang...the first pony Car of the genre, the only one to produce cars without interruption, and still today THE standard bearer for that class of car.
Using that name is an insult to the car and the MILLIONS of Mustang owners. Someone should be fired over that faux pas.
JMHO :angry5:
I cant see it lasting more than a few years, kind of like the retroish Thunderbird.
Wow Hugh ! wouldn't have dared to put it that way, but your statement is not very political , not religious and not gender offending, so you are probably good to go....hahaha..... :003:
maybe it's a good think I haven't seen or heard of the "new Mustang" you guys are talking about. Gunter.I was just thinking maybe that www. period incorrect thing probably was added to the old photo/ad years after the fact.
yes Rich, it's only a watermark that the (internet)site owner put on the pic for copyright.
I am not going to post or link to the electric SUV. it doesn't fit this topic, forum and site at all.
The Mustang III concept show car was requested by Ford and designed by Vince Gardner of Dearborn Steel Tubing. It made several appearances in the Ford Custom Car Caravan
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...as did Pegasus
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Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-01-14 12:32
I cant see it lasting more than a few years, kind of like the retroish Thunderbird.
One day is two days too many!
G...I don't suffer from the disease of Political Correct mental defection. Never have and too old to start now.
Cammer time!
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The Mustang E must have been designed for the pot head brain washed tree huggers who are taking over the west coast so they may sell really well :005:
One of the "money" sites has reported all the planned production is sold. It is truly "fugly" and has a 300 mile range? What planet do these folks live on? Guess they have never been to N. or S. Dakota, Montana, Wyoming or Nebraska where driving 100 miles one way is just a hop to the local restaurant for an evening meal?
Never mind that, how do the snow flakes justify using more energy to produce a vehicle then it will save over the first five years of it's life. Then we have that nasty little unanswered question of disposing of the dead batteries that have an average life expectancy of seven years.
Just my un-politically correct opinion......
Exactly! What if I want to drive from LA to the Grand Canyon, is there going to be a charging station or do I carry a 300 ft extension cord to run from my hotel room to the parking lot :003:
I guess you will be stuck in town unless they are going to have charging stations every 300 miles all across the country.
SPOT ON
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2020-01-15 06:12
The Mustang E must have been designed for the pot head brain washed tree huggers who are taking over the west coast so they may sell really well :005:
A piddly 300 miles? Put this into perspective. I live in Port Angeles WA at this time...(on my way out of there though to live in Missouri). From my house to the center of Olympia WA., my former city of residence, is 120 miles. BUT...that is a road of up and down mountain roads, speed changes of as much as 30 miles per hour, from 35 to 55 and in the last stretch even up to 60 MPH although in that stretch doing 60 can get you run over by those doing much more. (I have paced some clowns doing up to 75 or 80)
So once arriving in town if you wish to go anywhere racking up another 30 miles is not hard to do. By the time you head home, you will be lucky to traverse that path home without losing your ability to do so due to a discharged car.
The trip down and/or back takes 2 hours and 20 to 30 minutes each way, and is not going to allow you to depend on that 300 mile figure due to those road conditions.
As for charging stations...there are a few in Olympia/Lacey/Tumwater area But you are then anchored to a place you didn't really want to be for some time to just recharge the battery enough to wander around town and then drive back. So in addition to a 5 hour drive, and what ever time you planned on spending with friends or shopping or sight-seeing or what ever...you get to WASTE time goosing your car enough that you can get back to Port Angeles. Inefficiency at it's best.
AND then there is indeed the FACT that cost of building, and the damage done to the environment by creating the batteries is a negating factor in that they do not "save" diddly squat. The waste created by building the batteries has to be disposed of, and the batteries themselves will are a colossal PITA to properly disassemble and dispose of.
Bottom line...the rush toward electric cars is premature, expensive and foolhardy. But because it is a popular trend amongst the "progressive" snowflake crowd...we will continue to see them...whether they are sensible or not. Forget that well over 95% of cars on the rod today (including diesel trucks for long haul) are so much cleaner today that the skies in places like L.A. and Portland Oregon which used to have skies so full of smog you could plant trees in the dirt above those cities are now clean...while hosting even MORE cars than they did back in those smoggy days. (remember smog alerts in the late 60's and mid 70's?)
Worse than all of that though...is the BASTARDIZING of the Mustang name to place it on this stupid car. That...is just plain rude, annoying and moronic.
JMHO!!!
Holman and Moody transformed a Falcon Competition Coupe adding an unusual fastback roof.
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Nice and subtle work. I always loved those early Falcons.
Electric cars. How are we recovering road tax from them? I'm paying 37 cents a gallon just in state taxes. Are they using our roads for free?
Quote from: thomasso on 2020-01-15 21:05
Electric cars. How are we recovering road tax from them? I'm paying 37 cents a gallon just in state taxes. Are they using our roads for free?
Only .37 cents? Dang! Washington it is nearly double that, and it expect it to go up again soon. In the land of fruits and nuts they are also almost double that.
As for how to recover the road use from those things...we don't. And that is just WRONG! I would be all for making them pay extra for their license fees...an amount equal to say 15000 miles per year at 22 mpg. Figure the tax based on the current gas tax, and add it to their license tab renewal fee. Probably still a heck of a deal for them, but it would sure be more than they pay now!
Im thinking we'll eventually be tracked by some sort of mandated GPS, and then taxed on a mileage basis. Which in turn, could put some of our "non-connected" cars in a vicarious position.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-01-14 08:08
Maybe you missed the link I posted on the bottom of original post. it is in English and has lots more info and detail pics.
I too think the lines work great and it is an awesome sporty wgn.
http://bzerob.com/garage/mustang65/mustang65-odd-countrywagon.html ...
I remember seeing a magazine article some pix & in the 1970s of an early Mustang that had been converted to a wagon. It may even have been the cover pic. As I recall it was an American built custom, was that maroon color that some of those Mustangs had & was very well done. I think the roof extended all the way to the rear & looked better than those Dutch ones. A real beauty. Ford should have built them. I may still have that magazine, wonder if I can find it.
SPEED SHOP
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2020-01-15 06:12
The Mustang E must have been designed for the pot head brain washed tree huggers who are taking over the west coast so they may sell really well :005:
Hey, I like trees! Among other things the spruce trees do keep my many old 'junk cars' hidden from the neighbors & the street all year long. :003:
Electric cars? Nope, not much. (https://advrider.com/f/styles/advrider_smilies/nono.gif)
And a big fat NO on those self driving cars.
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That's a great photo, Tom. To get an idea of the scale, is what is the distance between streets?
Quote from: Swank on 2020-01-16 07:09
Im thinking we'll eventually be tracked by some sort of mandated GPS, and then taxed on a mileage basis. Which in turn, could put some of our "non-connected" cars in a vicarious position.
It has already come. Oregon has several "test" cars doing that now, and WA state has begun making noise about making it a requirement for all cars. They say they will "reduce" the gas tax. LOL!!! Yea...for about 4-5 years, then it will creep right back up and you will be paying double taxes essentially on every mile traveled.
Government = theft!
Quote from: terry_208 on 2020-01-16 10:16
That's a great photo, Tom. To get an idea of the scale, is what is the distance between streets?
About 450 feet between the streets in front & back of me but they aren't centered on their 60 foot easement. My back lot line that the arrow points to is 208 feet long.
Friend took the pic from his plane. Wish I'd been with him!
The Mustang I concept car was designed by Ford designer John Najjar in 1962 and made several appearances in the Ford Custom Car Caravan
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that is an awesome Piper bushplane! Do you follow the 'Flying Cowboys' on Youtube ?
Quote from: Tom S on 2020-01-16 12:45
About 450 feet between the streets in front & back of me but they aren't centered on their 60 foot easement. My back lot line that the arrow points to is 208 feet long.
Friend took the pic from his plane. Wish I'd been with him!
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A '58 and a '52
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-01-16 17:06
that is an awesome Piper bushplane! Do you follow the 'Flying Cowboys' on Youtube ?
Nope. There's hundreds of small planes here that use what some people call "Tundra tires". They sure help with landing & takeoffs on very rocky river sides & beaches with rocks bigger than a toddlers head.
This is flying country. We have the most private pilots per capita of any state in the country by far. Unfortunately I never learned to fly when I had the chance, really wanted to but couldn't afford a plane then anyway. I've always regretted it.: (
Flying up to a bush landing strip to nearby Knik Glacier you can fly thru what looked to me like a pretty narrow ice canyon.
Above it & with my experienced pilot friend beside me I was at the controls. He says to drop down into that canyon. Looked too narrow to me, I chickened out & he took it. Once we were in it didn't look nearly as bad as I'd thought. : )
that's a great pic ! The blue ice looks menacing !
Built by the legendary Gene Winfield from a 1963 Falcon convertible
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RICHARDS
This Ford E-100 Econoline pickup was transformed by Gene Winfield
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That pic of Richards drive in is where Jay's wife use to work in the 60's. One of my old go-to destinations. It's on the Charles river in Cambridge, Ma. Miss that muddy water!
sure ! we can even spot Mrs. G.V. Arrow in that pic ! :002: :003:
'53
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Quote from: hemidave on 2020-01-18 07:32
RICHARDS
HemiDave
Thank you very much for posting that picture of Richards drive It is long gone now and was on Memorial drive
parallel to the Charles River in Cambridge Mass. That place brings back very happy memories. My wife was a car hop there. I'll show the
picture to to her tomorrow. Rich was cruising there also at about the same time. Somehow we never got to meet and talk to each other.
That's real shame. Hopefully I'll get to meet Rich some time when he is out here again visiting his family.
Jay
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Mustang wheel stander looks like it has a Chrysler engine? 383, 440? Could be worse I suppose.............
From Long Island Drag racing.com:
"That was ''Wild Arnie'' Frank's L.I. Stang hooking 'em up at New York National Speedway (the L.I. in the name stood for Long Island, Frank's home base). Power for the '66 pony car came from a rear-mounted 426 Chrysler wedge engine. Frank's favorite trick as to pull all four wheels off the ground at launch. (note the oversized casters under the back bumper)."
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Enjoying top down weather
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A Merc that looks like a Ranchero? sort of? Those front fenders look a lot different at the eyebrows. Kind of looks like someone tried to make it into a Ranchero...out of a 2-door wagon perhaps?
I think this is of the 1950s Convertible Nascar series. its just a 'vert with a roll cage and 'tonneau cover' added. headlights rings removed, which gives impression of peaked fenders or exeggerated eyebrows, which the 57 Mercs also had, much like our Fords. it's really just a stock car Merc. I like the deep dish wheels and wide tires.
Tallahassee Democrat is probably just what? a newspaper? doesn't mean it is in Tallahassee ?! but maybe still in FL.
is this a Daytona car maybe, at display ?
Yea...now that you said that I can see how it might well be a 'Vert.
there you go, newspaper.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallahassee_Democrat
History...sadly in this country being erased as fast as possible. Nice piece though.
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That is a valuable photo if it is still around.
Fairlane Fridays............
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Now that is my kinda Falcon! :burnout:
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FAMILY PICNIC
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-01-25 00:08
Now that is my kinda Falcon! :burnout:
Falcon? :017:
Comet? Falcon? Same car...different tags.
1964 Fairlane.
Quote from: mustang6984link=topic=7503.msg74407#msg74407 date=1580000765Comet? Falcon? Same car...different tags.
Are you talking about the Falcon convertible that's one page back? The Thunderbolt wheel-stander is a Fairlane.
Well....hell! So it is. Guess I should use my glasses more often. I should have known that too. There is a guy near my place in Port Angeles that built a replica car complete with the 427.
My bad... :angry9:
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-01-25 19:21
Well....hell! So it is. Guess I should use my glasses more often. I should have known that too. There is a guy near my place in Port Angeles that built a replica car complete with the 427.
My bad... :angry9:
And here we thought you were a Ford guy. :002:
Like I said...glasses...
And out of 16 cars...yea...14 are indeed Fords.
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'53
My '32 Ford I had when I was 17. Knew nothing about it really, overwhelming. Never brought it home, only visited it twice after trading a '54 Ford convertible for it. Sold it to someone in the greater Boston area who talked like he was heavily involved in the hot rodding community. 1964
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-01-26 13:15
My '32 Ford I had when I was 17. ...
Wow, and a Cabriolet to boot! I don't think there are many of those left. If I could have got my hands on any model '32 Ford at all when I was 17 I'd probably still have it. Got any more pix?
yes that is true, only 5926 were ever built built. that is even fewer than roadsters (7.000something)! you should have kept it Rich ! :003: Do I see an Olds Rocket engine and 1959 Dodge (or Plymouth) wheelcovers?
This one belongs to a friend of mine
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He also has this '12 brass T and drives it frequently in local parades.
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SKYLINER
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Oh now those were the days. Slot car tracks and Saturdays. Nice Joe!
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2 57s at the 1958(?) Hartford Autorama, CT.
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-01-28 13:01
2 57s at the 1958(?) Hartford Autorama, CT.
And of course the Ranchero looks to be getting the most attention. As it should be. :003:
Yeah, I might be just a
little bit biased. :002:
Sure would like to see a closeup of the headlight treatment on that Ranchero.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-01-28 21:07
Sure would like to see a closeup of the headlight treatment on that Ranchero.
Are you really sure about that? I'm kinda sorry I did see it. :(
BTW, we're still waiting for some more pix & info on that '32 you let go when you were 17.
(1) https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ACYBGNTI86k3oj-1dctqOS3FUk5sWetiRw:1580270282650&q=ranchero+at+the+1958+Hartford+Autorama,+CT&tbm=isch&source=univ&client=firefox-b-1-d&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi_qOLG9afnAhVUvZ4KHRTaCyAQsAR6BAgKEAE&biw=870&bih=509
(2) https://kustomrama.com/wiki/Russ_Meacham%27s_1957_Ford
Yep, it's as bad as I thought. That car was only a year old when that pic was taken in Hartford.
That's the only pic I have of the '32. I knew nothing about it except I was told the steering was backwards......turn the steering wheel left to go right! I'm noticing the steering wheel is not on the car, but that may have been it in the passenger seat. The car was built in Acton, Mass. and passed around a few times. It was an Olds engine. 3 speed manual tranny, can't remember what from. That pic was taken in July, 1964.........I had just graduated HS that June. I think I sold the car for 250ish.........lot of money for me back then since I was making 1.35 minimum wage.
A while back, a Hamb member was posting pics of late 60's car shows in Boston, and there was a pic of a channeled cabriolet, but the pic was from the back end, so couldn't see if it had the flair over the (wishbone?) thingie. I did a little research on the owner's name, but came up with nothing. I was hoping to find someone who knew the owner or the car.
The pic doesn't show enough of the car for me to see...but I am wondering if he moved the turn signal lights up out of the grill into the slot above the headlights? if not...WHY make that cave? I don't really care for it either. Ruins the flow of the design...which was pretty much flawless from the factory. ???
i believe back then they would add scoops to custom cars to add modifications and getting more points at said competition car shows.
I don't know for sure, but believe that the white Fairlane HT could be John Norths, which later on got customized much more and built into the White Pearl and at one point sold to the singer Gene Pitney.
http://customrodder.forumactif.org/t2406-1957-ford-white-pearl-john-north
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HOT T BIRD
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Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-01-28 23:37
The pic doesn't show enough of the car for me to see...but I am wondering if he moved the turn signal lights up out of the grill into the slot above the headlights? if not...WHY make that cave? ...
There were lots of useless scoops & such on the overly & wildly modified 'customs' in the late 1950's & in the 1960s.
So I see you guys are not very fond of customizing 57 Fords....well. :003:
upon asking Gene Winfield about 57 Fords here is what he had to say:
Quote"Well I like them and I had 57 Fords, but not many. there is not much you can do to them. already great looking from the factory, so why bother..."
haha...that's Gene. Still I would like to post pics of one of my favorite customized 57s. Geoerge Mitobe's Ranchero which was customized when brand new and painted by Larry Watson of CA. I have been looking at those pics for years and so many minute details pop up everytime. imho there was a lot of effort and clever thinking involved in the build.
(https://kustomrama.com/w/images/9/9b/George-mitobi-1957-ford-ranchero.jpg)
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oh forgot, it has Edsel taillights !
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The George Mitobe Ranch is a long time Favourite.. thanks for posting G!
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'40
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Daytona in the late 50's?
Yes sir, Daytona. 1957
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Oh OUCH on #152!
And BTW...thanks for all the pics every day. I love them!
The beach photo is fantastic. Are cars still allowed to drive on the beach or is that against the law? I could see in the 50's with road draft tubes and dripping oil but in this day and age new cars are sealed up pretty tight.
Quote from: rmk57 link=topic=7503.msg74521#msg74521....Are cars still allowed to drive on the beach or is that against the law?
I wondered the same thing. Was there in 1966. Google Earth 2018 image shows lots of cars lined up & parked along the back of the beach & some driving along. Guess it's still a go.
Look near Silver beach Ave Daytona Beach on Google Earth or maybe Google maps.
Thanks, and you are welcome; I still have a ton of pics. :003:
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270 hp
Dave...nice Courier shot!
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-01-31 11:54
Dave...nice Courier shot!
For whatever reason, In Canada, the Ford Sedan Deliveries were not called "Couriers", in both the Meteor, as well as the Canadian built (Oakville Ontario) built Sedan Deliveries wore badges that said "Sedan Delivery" . On 57s, they were on the front fenders, you can see this emblem on the photo of the 57 Meteor Sedan Delivery. Very difficylt emblem to find in one piece. I used to own 2 57 SDs, and removed the Sedan Delivery emblems from another in a wrecking yard in the 70s, and of the 5 emblems, only one came off in a single piece. The other 5 were all broken off in the same location, near the middle. I believe the 56 SDs used the same emblem.
Now that you pointed that out I notice the Sedan Delivery tags.
Courier tags were mounted the same, and pulling them off fenders often resulted in the same issue with breakage. I finally learned to do it the annoying way...go up into the fender and pop off the little retainer clip. Not a fun way to do it, but I was able to keep them from breaking.
Problem is...I put them some where 'safe" over 40 years ago...and now have no clue where that place was. I have moved multiple times since then...and I suspect they will never be seen by me again. :angry5:
So seriously Carroll, how much more is it for the Tro-Power over the single four barrel? :003:
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Shelby was telling McQueen that the 4bbl would out perform the tri-power but McQueen is insisting on the kool factor of the tri-power
Stevo sayz: I'll take a Sunkist.
Caroll sayz: Then I'll have a quart of Valovline.....
:003:
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Quote from: gasman826 on 2020-01-31 17:58
Shelby was telling McQueen that the 4bbl would out perform the tri-power but McQueen is insisting on the kool factor of the tri-power
I would be agreeing with Steve...which is why my Courier will have a tri-power...as will eventually my '69 351 Windsor.
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NICE SUNLINER
Dave...any idea where that was shot? Mexico perhaps? I can't make out the plate on the front all that well.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-02-01 11:03
Dave...any idea where that was shot? Mexico perhaps? I can't make out the plate on the front all that well.
I think its at a bull fighting arena, but not sure exactly where.
Yea...does look like it. Thanks.
What i found:
A.Davey (Taken in August 1958)
Feria
I love this photo!
That's my brother, James, in sunglasses driving the convertible. He must have been in seventh heaven driving the blonde senoritas in their feria finery around the plaza de toros.
One of the things I like best about this photo is the line of military officers in the background. So typically Latin American!
I have very faint memories of the women at our house wearing their Spanish dresses. I was especially fascinated by the peinetas, the large tortoise shell combs that hold the mantillas. Hmm.
The car is a Ford Fairlane. It has a 1958 Venezuelan license plate, so it can't be more recent than that.
And, since we have militares in the background and it's 1958, it might be worth a look at Venezuelan politics at the time, courtesy of Wikipedia:
Marcos Evangelista Perez Jimenez (Michelena, Tachira, April 25, 1914 - Alcobendas, Spain, September 20, 2001) was a Venezuelan military and general officer of the Army of Venezuela and the President of Venezuela from 1952 to 1958.
His ruling period is characterized by marked improvement in development, with the rise of oil prices facilitating many public works achievements. Political and economic stability, along with the completion of ambitious public works and the rapid development of industries such as hydroelectricity, mining, and steel were achieved during this period as well. Perez Jimenez was also responsible for the modernization of the military and the nation enjoyed a period of high prosperity and social tranquility.
However, the government's National Security (Seguridad Nacional, secret police) was extremely repressive against critics of the regime and ruthlessly hunted down and imprisoned those who opposed the dictatorship.
Following massive public demonstrations in support for a democratic reform to take place in the government, Perez was deposed in a coup perpetrated by disgruntled sectors within the Armed Forces of Venezuela on January 23, 1958. Perez was then exiled to Dominican Republic, and afterwards went on to settle in Spain under the Franco regime's protection.
My original scan of a non-digital image to which I own all rights.
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Thanks Joe! You 'da man! :003:
Anybody want to restore a 51 F-100? I was interested in it 15 years ago but we got chased off the Indian reserve even though my buddy was from one of the nearby bands. I keep looking at each time I drive by 5 days a week and think it's such a waste..............
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Ouch! Yea...it is a waste. But I have enough projects to finish before I take on any more. And I would love to have one. {sigh}
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CONTINENTAL KIT
oooh that hurt...
glad the lady got away with only a neck brace.
Now we finally know what Conti kits are for. :003:
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CONTINUING WITH '58s
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1 more 58
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Sweet and sour Mustang style! :003: :cussing:
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-02-03 09:23
CONTINUING WITH '58s
Continuing with kids sitting on a 58 Fords front fender, this was me sitting on our family 58 Ranch Wagon, in 1966.
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55 SUNLINER
My 58 in about 1967
Dave...nice car in what appeared to be a pretty nice neighborhood. Back wen people cared about their properties. I miss those days.
Not a Ford motor, but still a nice ride....I really love the headers:
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Nice to look at,beautifully done...... not sure I'd ever put that kinda money in a car I couldn't take on a long roadtrip, haha. I'd be more inclined to build something like this if I had megabucks. @44k with only one day to go, doubt if they're at 25% of build cost. This thing is gorgeous.
https://www.hemmings.com/auction/1962-ford-galaxie-500xl?refer=news&utm_source=edaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-02-05#&gid=1&pid=1
Heck...the Coyote alone is probably 1/3 to 1/2 of the 44k!
I believe this car was at the NSRA Street Rod Nationals in Louisville, last year. The Paint color and interior caught my eye as it is close to what I want for my Ranchero. Very NICE!
It is a sharp looking color! :003:
Abandoned '56 Tudor wagon.
That hurts to see. Looks like it might still be salvageable.
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F F
Go Wiley go!
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EVE ARDEN AND FAMILY
WOW! I had forgotten all about Eve Arden! With the passing of Kirk Douglas the other day kind f brings back a lot memories of those days eh?
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Nice !
pretty 53 Lincoln in the background.
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-02-07 09:42
EVE ARDEN AND FAMILY
nice wagon
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Back in the day and now.....
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What was Shelby's tie-in to the Tiger? Always wanted one of those.
I found something neat on todays local Sunday morning flea market. Couldn't even believe my eyes...this might not be something special for you guys in North America, but sure makes for a rare find over here, in the middle of Europe.
Besides being interested in vintage aviation, there is more to this cover of German Flugwelt ('Aviation World') magazine from March 1959 !
Take a closer look ! :002:
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Das ist gut.
:001:
That's pretty cool. What country was the cover pic taken in?
Just a few years ago I found a "license plate"/dealer's name plate from my small home town of Acton, Mass....Anderson Ford Sales........the local Ford dealer there. I found it at a swap meet in Fort Worth, Tx!
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-02-09 07:18
What was Shelby's tie-in to the Tiger? Always wanted one of those.
Shelby always had his eye out for a potential new "toy" to develop. He also attracted interest from others who were looking at his "can do" mentality as a way to add some spice to their vehicles.
https://www.motor1.com/news/74903/sunbeam-tiger-carroll-shelbys-forsaken-mistress/
https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2019/12/04/before-le-mans-ken-miles-and-carroll-shelby-built-first-sunbeam-tigers
https://silodrome.com/sunbeam-tiger-car/
Rich, I was a little puzzled at first, but it is pretty obvious that the pic was taken in the USA, even though it is on the cover of a German magazine. The caption says:
Midget racers pre start. Photographer Howard Levywhich is a pretty common American name and the plane to the front carries the N26C reg.# which is a
North American (=US-registration).
cool story about that MA plate frame that you found in TX. Isn't it sometimes peculiar how that stuff FINDS US...?
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-02-09 11:09
That's pretty cool. What country was the cover pic taken in?
Just a few years ago I found a "license plate"/dealer's name plate from my small home town of Acton, Mass....Anderson Ford Sales........the local Ford dealer there. I found it at a swap meet in Fort Worth, Tx!
Had to look for it, but I knew I had it:
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terrific shot Joe !
HONK !
Back when life was simple and you didn't need to have an I phone and about 100 different codes to get access....loving it ! :003:
"Isn't it sometimes peculiar how that stuff FINDS US...?"..................Yep.......downright weird sometimes. I'll tell a story on morning coffee about something I found in Missouri.
Joe, wow.......but that building looks totally unfamiliar, but that was 50+ years ago. Back when I lived in Acton, Anderson Ford was actually in the next town........Maynard, home of Digital. Sometime after I moved, they either moved to Acton or opened a second dealership there. That shot you posted, I cannot picture being anywhere in Acton, possibly Maynard. Any info on that pic/dealership? Common name, probably a dozen of them around the country. Thanks, Joe.
Those 3 Fords are just beautiful in front of that old dealership.
You are correct Rich: Anderson Motor Sales Ford, Slater MO, 1959
I knew I had the picture but never thought to research it.
whoa
Jesse James Ford sales Weymouth, MA
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So...have to ask...was his head of sales Frank James?
Parts department run by Cole Younger?
Service department led by the Dalton boys?
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Using the '52
Goat anchor?
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Well, after three years of looking for a '39 Coupe I could afford, I finally pulled the trigger on this '39 Ford Deluxe . John Viera gave me a lead on a project car (Thank you) but it had a bowtie in it, and I really wanted a flathead and was hoping for something I could build, but this one fell in my lap for the price of a local car & chassis, so.....
If it all goes well, I hope to have her home in a few weeks.
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I am beyond jealous! Nice score Joe! Now have another reason to go to Massachusetts! I wanna a ride! SWEET!!!
Congrats Joe...That's beautiful! What part of our world did you find that in.....you said several weeks, so I'm assuming some transport time. I love that flathead, it's gorgeous. Hope it runs as good as it looks. Interior pics? Paint looks too custom, as the engine compartment, for that traditional wheel/tire combo, but that's just me. I'd have a set of blackwalls with Torquthrusts waiting for it's arrival, lol.
Very commendable staying loyal to the blue oval, passing on the bowtie. That's hard to do with 39-40 fords.
WOW ! Joe, that looks like a seriously nice car. I love 39s! it'll be interesting to learn about the axles, transmission, interior. Congratulations !
Thanks guys. It's coming from the Midwest, so the weather is going to play a part in the delivery timeline. I also need to iron out a few details yet, but we are done for the most part.
Here are some more of the pics you asked for:
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WOW, what a beauty Joe, CONGRATS !!!
Even better ! wow that is a nicely detailed undercarriage, even straight axle and banjo and floor shift top loader present. maybe a few concessions to modern amenities, but that interior is classy as well. Beautiful car !
Well, I can see you're going to have a major problem with that car............waiting for spring to arrive with clear roads so you can drive it! You found a jewel Joe. It's going to look great parked next to that red '57.
WOW! Just absolutely gorgeous! Nice find.
Thanks again guys. I'm pretty stoked, just hate buying cars when I'm not standing next to them.
Joe, way to go, beautiful you hit a home run, can't wait to see it. Congratulations John V
Thanks John, just waiting on the vehicle inspection/survey; hopefully it comes back good.
The one that never was. Moose on the Hamb photoshoped this for me a few years ago. If only I was younger......
Nice looker!
Everything is done, paperwork, money, etc... still waiting on the vehicle inspection/survey. bawl
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Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-02-11 19:03
Congrats Joe... Paint looks too custom, as the engine compartment, for that traditional wheel/tire combo, but that's just me. I'd have a set of blackwalls with Torquthrusts waiting for it's arrival, lol.
Thanks Rich, IDK, I REALLY love the look of the stock rims & hubcaps.
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I'm with you Joe...I wouldn't change a thing...except my driving habits! LOL!!!
Joe
That 39 coupe is beautiful and it even has an all dressed up flathead. Bet that you can't wait to get it home so you can play with it. It sure is shiney.
I'm very happy for you.
Jay
Thunderbolt Thursday.....
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LAST 3 DAYS
At those prices...I'll take one of each please! :003: :burnout:
Picture # 3213
As most of you know I had my custom for about 20 plus years before I started to get serious about working on it. ( I was too busy
building 34 Ford convertibles..)
In those days I was able to strip a 57 Fairlane convertible for all the top pieces including the windshield area, door parts
and top assembly. As I recall the only piece that I didn't have was something for the right door . I had it in mind to build a 57 custom convertible.
After thinking about it, I changed my mind and didn't do it. The only major piece that I was missing for my custom was the steel back
seat package tray. Member John Vierra allowed me to copy his nice original one.
Jay, I really like that idea of a Custom 300 Convertible, that Rich posted. very sporty looking. You should have build it !
Then again I know your white E code Sedan and that is one sweet 57 ! So you did right in building it the original way.
Maybe your next 57 will be a Custom Convertible !? :002:
Did you see Joe's incredible 39 Ford Coupe ?
Guenter, Yes I did see the pictures of Joe's 39 coupe. It's just stunning. I couldn't help but stare at the pictures of the
under side of it also. The detail work is unbelievable.
Joe your 57 is clean and beautiful and you do drive it, so I really do think that you will drive the 39 coupe and not just put it away
and save it. And FWIW I got to drive Joe's 57. It drives and handles like a brand new car.
Jay
If you were to build a 57 Custom 300 convertible wouldn't you need the top and rear seat and rear glass from a 52 thru 56 convertible? I always wondered about that as the custom and custom 300 had the same wheelbase as a 52 thru 56 Ford.
Thanks for the kind words Jay; very much appreciated.
Let's hope this '39 checks out okay, I should know by Tuesday, as the inspection is on Monday. It's really weird buying something you didn't build yourself; this will only be the second car I haven't built myself, ( the '57) but the again, the prices that people are selling these things for today really make it worth while.
On the other hand, I haven't spoken to you in a while Jay, so i hope things are well with the Mrs.?
I keep you both in my thoughts and prayers every night.
Joe
Great looking 39!
I miss mine. I wish I had a dollar for every time I have said there is nothing better than a wet soapy wash mit coming over the roof and down to the trunk of a 39 coupe. The high wipers, flip out windshield, flattie with twin pipes, it is all good. A couple owners after me changed it to a 40, BBC and ostrich skin interior. :003:
Terry
:canada:
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Hello Dear
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-02-14 21:27
Great looking 39!
I miss mine. I wish I had a dollar for every time I have said there is nothing better than a wet soapy wash mit coming over the roof and down to the trunk of a 39 coupe. The high wipers, flip out windshield, flattie with twin pipes, it is all good. A couple owners after me changed it to a 40, BBC and ostrich skin interior. :003:
Terry
:canada:
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Quote from: Lou on 2020-02-14 19:52
If you were to build a 57 Custom 300 convertible wouldn't you need the top and rear seat and rear glass from a 52 thru 56 convertible? I always wondered about that as the custom and custom 300 had the same wheelbase as a 52 thru 56 Ford.
Lou
It's very possible that the 57 Fairlane convertible parts wouldn't have been an exact fit but that was the only parts car that I had access to at the time.
My other profession is antique auto restoration. I'm accustomed to working with parts and pieces that don't fit.
But my work is not as nice as Geunter in Austria.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-02-14 20:29
Thanks for the kind words Jay; very much appreciated.
Let's hope this '39 checks out okay, I should know by Tuesday, as the inspection is on Monday. It's really weird buying something you didn't build yourself; this will only be the second car I haven't built myself, ( the '57) but the again, the prices that people are selling these things for today really make it worth while.
On the other hand, I haven't spoken to you in a while Jay, so i hope things are well with the Mrs.?
I keep you both in my thoughts and prayers every night.
Joe
Joe You kinda lost me when you mentioned inspection on Tuesday. We really need to talk ASAP. Call me.
I still have that T shirt in the 57 Ford for you . Maybe we will hook up at the cruise this spring or at
Great Woods flea market if I do get to go.
Thank you for the prayers. They are really appreciated. She needs all that she can get.
Jay
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-02-14 16:55
Jay, I really like that idea of a Custom 300 Convertible, that Rich posted. very sporty looking. You should have build it !
Then again I know your white E code Sedan and that is one sweet 57 ! So you did right in building it the original way.
Maybe your next 57 will be a Custom Convertible !? :002:
Did you see Joe's incredible 39 Ford Coupe ?
No Guenter
If I can ever build another one, and that's only if.... Then it would have to be a Ranchero because as you know, I have a few spare pieces of
sheet metal for one and it's titled..
If only I had a crystal ball.........................
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Or if we could find a "time machine"... :003:
Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-02-15 20:13
If only I had a crystal ball.........................
...............and a bank. Adjusted for inflation, $3,395.00 in 1966 is equivalent to $27,434.80 today!
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Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-02-15 23:59
Or if we could find a "time machine"... :003:
I've got a time machine.
Been workin' on it for years! :old:
Trouble is that it won't go into reverse. It just keeps going forward & seems to accelerate faster & faster.
BE CAREFULL
Jay, the inspection is by a vehicle inspection company, totally independent from everyone else I'm dealing with. They will come in and do an assessment of the vehicle for me, seeing that it is located in the Midwest and then give me a detailed report.
I did try calling you a couple of times on both phones, but no answer. I'm off tomorrow, so give me a call when you have a chance.
#3242
I wonder what they were doing with the 55. two door sedan on boards over a hole in the ground with children next to it.?????
I guess that all we can do is speculate.
Joe
It was good talking to you last night. We need to keep in touch more often.
Jay
Love those Sunliners
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2020-02-17 08:27
#3242
I wonder what they were doing with the 55. two door sedan on boards over a hole in the ground with children next to it.?????
I guess that all we can do is speculate.
Joe
It was good talking to you last night. We need to keep in touch more often.
Jay
Homemade oil change / grease pit?
Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-02-17 12:17
Homemade oil change / grease pit?
That was what I thought too. Sadly...the oil is probably still there too.
Thanks Jay, same here.
Not sure if you have seen this before, but it's a pretty cool video of the Ford River Rouge plant in the 1930's. Once you get past the first 3-4 minutes, it gets right into making flatheads.
Enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa0PAg7FfMk&app=desktop
NEW '49s
Joe, thx for posting the link to that cool Ford factory video. This is utterly impressive! everybody remotely interested in the early Ford V8 should watch it ! It is highly surprising that they showed so much of the actual production process. We early Ford fans can relate to many of the parts and pieces and it is breathtaking at which speed and quality they were originally putting them together. absolutely awesome ! :004:
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-02-17 15:31
Thanks Jay, same here.
Not sure if you have seen this before, but it's a pretty cool video of the Ford River Rouge plant in the 1930's. Once you get past the first 3-4 minutes, it gets right into making flatheads.
Enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa0PAg7FfMk&app=desktop
Snow....no problem
Thanks DJ, f you liked that one, you'll enjoy the same plant in the 60's making 62 Fairlanes and FE motors:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMlPonSrqVo&feature=emb_logo
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-02-19 10:16
Snow....no problem
Dave
I can't let my car see that picture of the 58 Fairlane with all of that white stuff on it .
Jay
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-02-19 15:00
Thanks DJ, f you liked that one, you'll enjoy the same plant in the 60's making 62 Fairlanes and FE motors:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMlPonSrqVo&feature=emb_logo
Joe You sure do come up with some good stuff. Can't figure out how you do it.
Those are some real nice videos. JA
Thanks guys! :003:
TWO '57S
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-02-19 16:51
Thanks guys! :003:
Hey Joe...you make checking the e-mails something to look forward to...always ready for my0 first of the day look at what Joe has found for pics today. KUDOS sir! :003:
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-02-20 15:00
TWO '57S
And you are right there with him Dave. You guys tag-teaming pics makes for a good way to start off the day! :003:
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That '57 Ranch wagon is in the video below:
https://vimeo.com/305873283
Thanks guys, as always, very much appreciated. Did you guys watch the Rouge River plant videos? Pretty cool stuff.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-02-20 15:36
Thanks guys, as always, very much appreciated. Did you guys watch the Rouge River plant videos? Pretty cool stuff.
I haven't yet...haven't had the time. But I will this evening. I have a book on the Rouge that mu wife bought me. One of my favorite reads.
The Rouge Plant tour is well worth the time and money. I've been twice...both time just as interesting as the first. No flatheads but assembly of pickups is kool.
Quote from: gasman826 on 2020-02-20 16:56
The Rouge Plant tour is well worth the time and money. I've been twice...both time just as interesting as the first. No flatheads but assembly of pickups is kool.
My bucket list re: that is to spend a week out there, and do The Henry Ford, Greenfield Village and The Rouge. No matter how many days...to go and see everything there is to see of those three places. I will probably have to go alone...or with someone from here, because no one else I know would agree to go and see everything...and I mean EVERYTHING in each of those places that there is to see. LOL!!!
(I might need more than a week...)
Joe, I started watching the flathead one, next thing I knew my wife was waking me up for dinner, and I was at the end of the Fairlane assy video, lol. I'll try again.
As Hugh said, You and Dave give us something to look forward to. Thanks again
Rich, now you will have to come up with a real good excuse or we will have to smite you some! :003: How in the world can you fall asleep at a film like the Rouge plant ?... :003:
The red/white Ranch wagon clip is from the Bruce Brown surf movie called Slippery When Wet IIRC. I believe it was shot in 1958 in Mexico.
Interesting story
HAHA...........my smite count went up this week anyways, I'm almost at 20! Has anybody else got more than 3 or 4?
falling asleep is easy anywhere when your 73.
That surf car movie clip was funny, funny, funny!
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-02-21 10:56
HAHA...........my smite count went up this week anyways, I'm almost at 20! Has anybody else got more than 3 or 4?
falling asleep is easy anywhere when your 73.
I'll not smite you...been there...experienced that. too many times to count. :foshizzle:
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Now that is a crazy picture considering all facts. that is a cut open '34 closed car Ford, converted to juice brakes, looking like a JD California Hot Rod, but all of that is going on in Colombia....
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-02-21 15:31
Now that is a crazy picture considering all facts. that is a cut open '34 closed car Ford, converted to juice brakes, looking like a JD California Hot Rod, but all of that is going on in Colombia....
Just think that there was a time when they were plentiful and all over the place and it was no big deal to take nice stuff and cut it up
and make them into junk. In my time I remember seeing mid 50's Fords in junk piles and parts were easy to get in junk yards.
Fast forward to now and parts and knowledgeable people are few and far apart. Thanks to James and this site we have access to smart
people who are willing to share their knowledge and also share their parts. I have had lots of help and have even received parts for free.
What I'm trying to say is that 57fordsforever is the absolutely best site on the internet. Jay
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2020-02-21 19:58
Just think that there was a time when they were plentiful and all over the place and it was no big deal to take nice stuff and cut it up
and make them into junk. In my time I remember seeing mid 50's Fords in junk piles and parts were easy to get in junk yards.
Fast forward to now and parts and knowledgeable people are few and far apart. Thanks to James and this site we have access to smart
people who are willing to share their knowledge and also share their parts. I have had lots of help and have even received parts for free.
What I'm trying to say is that 57fordsforever is the absolutely best site on the internet. Jay
True enough! Couldn't have said it better!
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One has to wonder....WHY?
Daytona 1956
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-02-20 15:33
And you are right there with him Dave. You guys tag-teaming pics makes for a good way to start off the day! :003:
Thanks, I enjoy searching for the old pics and looking at the comments and other photos on this site.
The '56 Daytona pic...... Ford had a D code/2 x4's in '56?
Oops! yes, E code
Pretty sure it was over the counter/ dealer installed setup on 56's. Would be standard equipment in 57 for an E code Ford.
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
that must be one of the craziest T bird customs ever built. I don't think it's ugly. would have made a neat mystery street sports car in the mid 1960s. It could even be an old build.
I do believe dual 4s were available in late 56. However those are not teapot carbs, chokes are on upper left sides. Possibly Carter WCFs. The air cleaner does appear to be from an early dual 4 or E code car.
The 56, 2x4 setup was a over the counter package available to racers only for Fords and Mercurys (The Mercury manifold had more spacing between the carbs and had its own aircleaner made from a Ford "Big Job" truck.) I've been told the the 56 Ford 2x4 aircleaner would not fit the 57 Ford as I was to high.
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Joe, I blieve you have to be careful posting all those old Swedisch Kustom Fords from the 60s. they are wild, and not always well balanced. you might annoy some of our members here... :003:
I am pretty sure the red Edsel nosed Ranchero you posted is a Swedish build as well, with the Philips music label posters in the background.
I like those cars. not because I think they are beautiful, but they really have their own style and personality. without even looking at the license plate, they just scream 'SWEDEN'. I think that is funny at least.
those guys up there have a long lasting tradition in building customs, RocknRoll music and 'Americana' interest in general.
They host the worlds largest US car meet in Udevalla. it counts way more vintage cars than any goodguys or similar show in the US.
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Great history and pics Joe, Thanks for posting them ^^^
WOW! Thanks Joe...phenomenal picture history of Ford. And consider the technology of the day...they were producing all those cars! WOW!
The '56 "power pack system was originally intended for the T-birds but could be used on either. It had a different intake than the '57 and the oval air cleaner was intended to be used on the T-bird. The Holley 4000's had a separate part number (EDB-9510-C). I sold the last of my oval air cleaners this past year. A complete system is quite rare. The air cleaner was also used on some early '57 T-birds.
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2020-02-19 16:20
Dave
I can't let my car see that picture of the 58 Fairlane with all of that white stuff on it .
Jay
Then you better not let her see these either, Jay.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-02-23 04:31
... I am pretty sure the red Edsel nosed Ranchero ...
Speaking of Edsel nosed Rancheros ...
I wonder if the looks of the Edsel would have been more popular if Ford had styled it more like the photochop on the right with Fords first grille. I can only use my imagination to see it as such but it would have been for me. Same for the '72 Torinos/Rancheros.
Nope. They got it right / wrong the first time around.
A while back I was driving my 58 Villager wagon to pick up a six-pack and there were two guys leaving the parking lot and one of them yelled out the
window of his car "They weren't a failure". I had a good laugh over that.
Jerry Unser
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Boy Scouts OF America
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Quote from: Tom S on 2020-02-23 19:44
Then you better not let her see these either, Jay.
Tom
I don't know how you guys up there in that part of the country can tolerate all that snow for the most part of the year. You must have one very high
heating bill. How many weeks of summer do you have? Do you have a nice warm garage to work on your cars?
Jay
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Memories
A pair of dopplegangers! I never had a 55/56 convertible, but this pic has popped up a half dozen times on the Hamb, and maybe here. That guy could have been an identical twin brother I never had, and the girl looks exactly like my high school girlfriend.......weird. I'm sure if I sent her a copy of that pic, her reply would be more along the lines of "I don't remember that picture. I don't know if she would know the difference between that car and my dad's 55 Chev conv I frequently drove.
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"Most of you know the story of Henry's death. Put simply and frankly, he died of old age, gracefully. However, many don't know the circumstances. The night before Henry died, there were torrential downfalls in the Michigan area. The River Rouge overflowed which, in turn, flooded the local power station. Henry's power went out in his home and he and his wife went to sleep by candle light.
The next morning, Mrs. Ford woke up and found that Henry had died in the night, in the same room that he was born in 83 years earlier."
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'58
And Henry's last ride was not in a Ford. it was a Packard.
model-T with tracks.
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Now THAT is a car for today's city traffic Joe! I want one! I could get around Seattle real well with that! :003:
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2020-02-24 20:34
How many weeks of summer do you have?
Jay, due to the climate change that we are seeing right up close and with some devastating results up here that question is getting harder to answer.
If we're lucky down here in Anchorage spring/summer will start about the middle of May. But ya never know, it can still be cold & could still drop a big dump of snow on us. It's not unusual.
Often rains a lot in the fall. Can be pretty cold in late September & will be for sure in most of October. By the last day of October the snow is almost always on the ground to stay. I guess I could say that we normally have about 5.5 to 6 months that I don't consider 'real' winter where we are covered with snow.
But then there are the long hours of darkness. The farther north you go there is less & less daylight in the winter.
'Utqiagvik, formerly known as Barrow, the northernmost town in Alaska, won't see the sun for 67 days come winter, they enjoy the midnight sun all summer - over 80 days of uninterrupted daylight.'
Winter solstice is Dec. 21st, the shortest day of year.
Pic below shows the Dec. 21st hours of daylight in Anchorage.
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2020-02-24 20:34
Do you have a nice warm garage to work on your cars?
It's not that warm in there & that concrete floor is always cold.
I could turn up the heat but it don't help that floor!
Biggest problem I have with my 2 car garage now is that along with having my Roadster on a lift that takes up a lot of room I also have 5 motorcycles in there. (And one more bike in my living room :003:) Tons of car & bike parts in there too.
It's so tight that you have to turn sideways to be able to walk past a parked car. Gotta really edge sideways on one side. It's a good thing I'm skinny! A '57 Ford sure takes up a lot of space.
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410 HP
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They can roll one of those Ponies into my driveway!
And anyone else find it humorous that El Camino was the name of a Ford dealer? :003:
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Al Marcotte
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Nice pic! Fairly recently shot I think. Looks like some of the cars in the background are not all that old. A nostalgia drags race perhaps? I'd like to get a shot like that with my camera sometime.
Sorry to say this Joe, but this is not what you think. not a 34 5wd Ford. its a Plymouth body ( cowl is a dead giveaway) on what looks to be a Ch*** chassis and most probably same offspring but later ohv. only thing Ford is the 32/34 commercial grille.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-02-27 19:55
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Thanks DJ; sadly, I still have a lot to learn. I should have known as I questioned the rear quarter windows. bawl
I'm pretty sure I have it right here, but then again.....
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Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-02-27 16:42
They can roll one of those Ponies into my driveway!
And anyone else find it humorous that El Camino was the name of a Ford dealer? :003:
El Camino is a common name in California. It's a boulevard that runs all the length of the state from southern to northern California and dates back to the mission days. Lots of different kinds of businesses are called El Camino xxxxxxxx. It was around long before C*******t borrowed it. LOL
Quote from: John Palmer on 2020-02-28 19:10
El Camino is a common name in California. It's a boulevard that runs all the length of the state from southern to northern California and dates back to the mission days. Lots of different kinds of businesses are called El Camino xxxxxxxx. It was around long before C*******t borrowed it. LOL
Yep...quite familiar with it. Between Catholic schools and living there for almost 4 years...well aware. Buddy of mine took the family and went to every one of Fr Junipero Serra's Missions or to their memorial markers one summer. Took them 3 weeks. (One dad/husband...3 daughters and a friend of one plus wife) LOL!!! Probably could have done it in 3 days by himself!
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ERWIN FORD
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-02-28 19:23
Yep...quite familiar with it. Between Catholic schools and living there for almost 4 years...well aware. Buddy of mine took the family and went to every one of Fr Junipero Serra's Missions or to their memorial markers one summer. Took them 3 weeks. (One dad/husband...3 daughters and a friend of one plus wife) LOL!!! Probably could have done it in 3 days by himself!
The El Camino Trail passes through Louisiana. I was surprised to find that out a couple of years ago.
I think that is a different one. Father Serra's Mission El Camino was strictly California as far as I know. I might be wrong...but that was always my understanding.
Anyone know for sure? I have outlived all the nuns and priests I had in school.
There are more than one El Camino Trails (El Camino Real) the one Lynn is talking about starts in Louisiana and goes thru Texas to the Mexican border. The One I'm familiar with is the one Hugh talks about in California and is more commonly known as El Camino Real. I think there are others.....search wiki.
At one time I had a little souviener miniature lampost of those that lined the California route. I found it in an antique shop in New Hampshire! I think my ex has it now.
That is what I was thinking too Rich. If I ever see one of those trinkets I'll grab one for you. I still go down that way from time to time, have a buddy in San Diego who, like me has an addiction...to fine steaks and wine! So we go out and indulge now and then! :003:
Also the daughter lives in Sacramento so I usually start at her place then go to Tom's in San Diego. YUM!
this alltime dancefloor filler is about the Cali El Camino Real ! by Lee Dresser. an absolutely classy song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ol2N6A_Uts
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'51 FORD
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BIG BUY
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-03-02 04:55
Gonna need a repaint on that one I think... :angry1:
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-03-02 07:54
BIG BUY
Kind of a ripoff of Bobs Big Boy.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-03-02 10:45
Kind of a ripoff of Bobs Big Boy.
I saw that too. I wondered if they were the forerunner to Bob's? I worked at one in San Diego when I was 19...down the road from the Sports Arena.
I see a Boron sign in the background. Maybe their in Barstow? Back then it really was in the middle of nowhere.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-03-02 11:16
I see a Boron sign in the background. Maybe their in Barstow? Back then it really was in the middle of nowhere.
I was there last spring...still is pretty much middle of nowhere. Take the marine base away...and it WOULD be nowhere!
(You have no control over where you are born...and I sure didn't. But...that is where I was born...and last spring...was the first time I had been back since I was 2 years old. Turn 67 in 9 days.)
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I finally took delivery tonight.... :003: :003: :003:
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Color me Kelly Green with envy! Very nice Joe. Congrats. I might have to come out...and get a rid LOL!!! :001:
(we don't seem to have a Kelly Green option.)
Congrats again..........ok, ok, I like the wide whites and wheel treatment, lol.
'Not sure what Hugh was reffering to with the Kelly green comment, maybe something I said to Les a while back about painting his '57 Kelly green. Les's wife's name is Kelly
BEAUTIFUL CAR JOE ^^^
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-03-02 22:17
'Not sure what Hugh was reffering to with the Kelly green comment, maybe something I said to Les a while back about painting his '57 Kelly green. Les's wife's name is Kelly
As in green with envy Rich... :003: Kelly green is REAL green! And I REAL green with envy! I love that car. Good for Joe! :002:
Absolutely love your new baby Joe ! that is one super pretty girl ! and not even showing her age... :002:
Thanks guys, I will post up some more detailed pics after work. :hello2:
Beautiful car, love the color.
That is an absolutely beautiful car. Can't wait to see more pics!!! I'll bet that flattie sounds really nice also.
Very very nice! Congratulations. Now go and enjoy!
Lucky man with a BIG smile. Enjoy it.
TOP DOWN DAY
Joe
You have to be the happiest kid in town !!!!. Don't change anything on it. Can't wait to see it.
Jay
Thanks guys, as always, appreciate the kind words. Here are more of the pics you asked for.... :snoopy2:
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Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-03-02 21:26
Color me Kelly Green with envy! Very nice Joe. Congrats. I might have to come out...and get a rid LOL!!! :001:
(we don't seem to have a Kelly Green option.)
IDK, I really like the look of the bottle cap wheels, even with the '36 spyder hubcaps and wide whites.
....and now, back to our regularly scheduled programing:
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-03-03 18:23
IDK, I really like the look of the bottle cap wheels, even with the '36 spyder hubcaps and wide whites.
I would like either. I think the entire car is just beautiful Happy for you man! I am as
RED with lust as I am
GREEN with envy! LOL!!!
I also have some pics of the frame off rest, if anyone is interested.
Here is a couple of pics of the OG if you guys are interested:
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Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-03-03 18:34
I would like either. I think the entire car is just beautiful Happy for you man! I am as RED with lust as I am GREEN with envy! LOL!!!
LOL, sorry Bud, quoted the wrong post. (old age really sucks!)
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-03-02 22:17
Congrats again..........ok, ok, I like the wide whites and wheel treatment, lol.
'Not sure what Hugh was reffering to with the Kelly green comment, maybe something I said to Les a while back about painting his '57 Kelly green. Les's wife's name is Kelly
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-03-03 18:43
LOL, sorry Bud, quoted the wrong post. (old age really sucks!)
Yea...but the ALTERNATIVE to old age...sucks even more! LOL!!! :005:
Found an old magazine in a barn on Sunday. Would love to have found the air cleaner instead.
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'39s are beautiful !
Joe
That 39 sure is very pretty , clean and shiny and I'm just plain lost for words. Get some antique insurance on it ASAP. They are
a lot more reasonable than our every day car insurance.
I'm very happy for you. Pretty soon you will be a Flathead expert. Jay
Thank you Jay.
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will you guys please stop from pulling me in another bad habit ?.....my dormant love for 39s just getting back to life....the coupes are just so pretty !
Joe, your car has just the right touches. loving the 36 hubcaps and dechroming of body. it is very tastefully done and whoever built it deserves our deepest respect. they sure showed a lot of taste and appreciation for what old V8 Fords are about. Love it !
Again, many thanks; especially to Jay, real nice talking with you tonight.
More car porn:
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'56s
Joe
If the red engine is the actual engine in your car, then I'm happy to say that I believe that you
have the later 59 series engine that came in the 46 48 post war cars, AKA 59 AB.
My reason for making that statement is that I can clearly see the two water channels leading to the
freeze out plugs between the oil pan and the side rail.
A tip for anyone that is reading this and is working on a 59 AB ...Never use the steel freeze out plugs
because they will rust out and the water will go into your oil pan. Use copper pennies. They don't rust out.
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-03-05 09:44
'56s
Dave...that shot of the convertible looks like it might have been shot overlooking San Fernando Valley in the 50's. If it is...sure looks different today! LOL!!! Nice car!!!
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Looking at the pic...appears she was HOT and needed some cooling off! :003:
You are right Huge, pictures like that give me 19 year old flash backs.
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2020-03-05 10:17
A tip for anyone that is reading this and is working on a 59 AB ...Never use the steel freeze out plugs
because they will rust out and the water will go into your oil pan. Use copper pennies. They don't rust out.
Jay do you mean that we should put Honest Abe into service ? :002: :003:
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Supposedly, the man in the photo is Dean Moon circa 1953; no idea on the woman.
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"Got'cha" towing "Wild 1" '37 Chevy Gasser (Former KS Pittman car) with his '40 Ford Coupe looking for a race in front of the car wash at Van Nuys & Burbank.
Four wheel drive
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-03-06 03:33
Jay do you mean that we should put Honest Abe into service ? :002: :003:
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Guenter You have it right, and it does not matter which side is up or down. Jay
NICE '52
Harry Duncan's '34 Ford 3-window coupe
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Best name in drag racing................
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Love the old Ford trucks ^^^
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Sweet pic! I miss the days of carefree fun. Thanks! :003:
ELVIS !
Viva Las Vegas?
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'58S
'39
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A pic of simpler times... :003:
^So true...
A Moment of silence at the Ford Advanced Vehicles Le Mans Test 1964
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INTERESTING
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-03-10 05:01
A Moment of silence at the Ford Advanced Vehicles Le Mans Test 1964
Isn't that the one where Shelby's friend and test driver was killed? (his name slips my mind at the moment.)
« Reply #3396 on:
I like 58's also and especially liked the cool stainless on the sides of the green and white one. (3396) . Eventually I did get one and
it had an FE with 3 speed on the column.
Jay, that is not the GT40 that Ken Miles dies in, he died in 1966 while testing the J-car at Riverside International Raceway. The J car was intended to be the successor to the famous Ford GT Mk.II. After the death of Walt Hansgen in a J-car Ford, the decision was made to shelve the J-car and focus on the proven Mk II's, and little development was done for the rest of the 1966 World Sports Car Championship season. Finally, in August 1966, Shelby American resumed testing and development work with Miles as the main test driver. After a day of testing at Riverside in the bhot California desert summer weather, Miles approached the end of the track's 1-mile, downhill back straight at top speed of 200+ mph when the car suddenly looped, flipped, crashed and caught fire. The car broke into pieces and ejected Miles, killing him instantly.
The GT40 development program started off not with Ford-engineered cars, but Lola GT chassis. Bruce McLaren and Roy Salvadori served as development drivers, among others, with the team running the Lola GT cars at Monza and at several tracks in England while work progressed on Ford's own cars.
The car pictured is one of the first two Ford GT40 prototypes completed in Slough, England, in the spring of 1964, labeled as chassis GT/101 and GT/102. The 24 Hours of Le Mans being just weeks away, the cars were pushed into track tests just days after being completed, with the development program having only weeks to test the cars in the wind tunnel and on the track. Salvadori, along with test driver Jo Schlesser, pushed the cars to their limits on test tracks in England, while the assembly team at Ford Advanced Vehicles Ltd. in Slough worked to get more cars ready. These GT40 prototypes were powered by Ford's aluminum 4.2-liter engine paired with a Colotti gearbox, producing 350 hp, with Girling disc brakes on all four corners providing the stopping power.
Salvadori and Schlesser discovered early on that there was not enough downforce on the cars' tails at high speed, which made them difficult to control north of 150 mph. Some of the aerodynamic issues were solved, but not before GT/101 and GT/102 had been wrecked. Salvadori and Schlesser were not injured, but the program suffered a setback because of the loss of two prototypes just weeks ahead of Le Mans.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-03-10 16:52
Jay, that is not the GT40 that Ken Miles dies in, he died in 1966 while testing the J-car at Riverside International Raceway.
Joe...it was me that asked...not Jay. FYI.
But thanks for the info. More info on the program prior to Shelby that I wasn't aware of. Gratzi! :003:
Hugh
Sorry Hugh, should have put on my glasses. :grandpaSimpson:
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:glasses1: You can borrow mine. LOL!!! Getting old kinda sucks sometimes eh?
'55 Sunliner
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REBEL GARAGE
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-03-11 04:59
Sorry Hugh, should have put on my glasses. :grandpaSimpson:
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Joe
I'm going to be a nice guy and not pick on you for that one mistake because I know that you are still getting over the shock
of purchasing that brand new 39 coupe. Jay
Thanks Jay, sometimes I forget abo.......WAIT a minute.......I bought a 39 Coupe???
:003:
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Never could get my hands on a '56 Vicky. : (
I'd love one that looked like this.
Enjoy that top down
Quote from: Tom S on 2020-03-12 14:57
Never could get my hands on a '56 Vicky. : (
I'd love one that looked like this.
Quote from: Tom S on 2020-03-12 14:57
Never could get my hands on a '56 Vicky. : (
I'd love one that looked like this.
Tom
Back in the late 50 s ' and early 60 s' I drove a 56 Ford. I think that the dealer saw me coming because the car was very defective. They charged me $200. for it. For some strange reason it blew up 36 transmissions ( Yes I was keeping track) I always had to carry a spare one in my trunk when I went out. Usually I had to change it so i could drive home.
I found a 56 Mercury and took the Borg Warner T85 out of it and installed it in my 56 Ford and never blew up another transmission in that car. That's how I learned how to build transmissions because I didn't always have $25. to pay for another one in the junkyard.
I always liked 56 Fords, but really wanted a 57 custom and for years had to settle for 58 Fords. Didn't get my 57 Custom until
very much later in life and when I did get it, it was on the back burner for 15 to 20 years until I got around to fixing it up.
Jay
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I think I still have a T-85 in my shop. Used to run one in my Brown '57 behind the 352. Have to say...I was NOT a kind owner. Bet I blew 1/2 a dozen of them. LOL!!! They were up to $35 by the early 70's! :001:
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Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-03-14 01:37
I think I still have a T-85 in my shop. Used to run one in my Brown '57 behind the 352. Have to say...I was NOT a kind owner. Bet I blew 1/2 a dozen of them. LOL!!! They were up to $35 by the early 70's! :001:
mustang6984 Your 57 with the FE had a lot more oomph than the little 1954 (239) that I put in my 56 Ford after the original 292 in my 1956 Ford dropped kinda dropped dead . In my day you would have been a hero to blow up a T85.
Ah...I like the idea of being a hero! LOL!!! If memory serves...the one I have is still in functional condition. I just need to remember where it is. HHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhmmmmmmm...
Tough wagon
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-03-14 09:35
Ah...I like the idea of being a hero! LOL!!! If memory serves...the one I have is still in functional condition. I just need to remember where it is. HHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhmmmmmmm...
Highball Jim
After this very scientific discussion about T85 transmissions, now you know that it will be OK if you take your Rancharrow out and smack a few speed shifts like a teenager It takes an FE engine to blow up a T85. . Jay
Not sure how tough it was compared to
thea 'dozer......the a pillar seems to be about a foot from the b pillar, and is that the dozer's blade at the back seat on the passenger side?..................with that said, it looks like the wagon pushed the dozer part way into the building. That wasn't no 25 mph accident.
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2020-03-14 13:40
Highball Jim
After this very scientific discussion about T85 transmissions, now you know that it will be OK if you take your Rancharrow out and smack a few speed shifts like a teenager It takes an FE engine to blow up a T85. . Jay
Just like you back in the 60's I blew countless 3 speeds until I installed a T85. So a T85 was a top priority for the Rancharrow. I feel blessed that I was able to find one and love the OD..
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My bet is the local hooligans got the dozer started in gear and did not know how to shut it off. Left in reverse it motored over top of the wagon. Check the lack of tire marks on the wagon.. History does repeat itself, just ask my buddies Gary, Oscar and Dale who started a dozer, jumped off before it hit the new high school that was under construction.
Yep, that definetly makes more sense than what I said.
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JUST MARRIED
Actually Jim.....I remember when you were waiting for that T85 and the guy was taking his good sweet time taking it out of
the donor vehicle. You paid your dues waiting for him, and there "ain't no way" that you are going to be beating on it.
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Nice coupe
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Enjoying top down weather
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Very Nice Joe ! ^^^
Yours ^^^^isn't bad either Dave! :003:
^^^^X2!
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WOW Joe, I like ^^^
Gee Joe...all of a sudden I have this desire to go to a junkyard... :003:
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Great pics....love the Ranchwagon, the T next to the '40 is an awesome shot, and all of a sudden I'm a Pirate's fan.
Proud family
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The '55 t-bird is interesting. the history of those cars says that two or three were built with the Fairlane trim. I saw car number four at Carlyle many years ago. A friend has car number two and much of the trim. The one in the photo appears to have a white wheel, that was never an option. That said, I have to assume this is a created car. Interesting none the less.
Possibly a Ford promo car (program cars they call them today) that was later crushed. The white wheel might have been installed because it would show up better in photos.
Just guessing here...
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Quote from: Ray on 2020-03-20 18:35
The '55 t-bird is interesting. the history of those cars says that two or three were built with the Fairlane trim. I saw car number four at Carlyle many years ago. A friend has car number two and much of the trim. The one in the photo appears to have a white wheel, that was never an option. That said, I have to assume this is a created car. Interesting none the less.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-03-20 18:43
Possibly a Ford promo car (program cars they call them today) that was later crushed. The white wheel might have been installed because it would show up better in photos.
Just guessing here...
http://theoldmotor.com/?p=99053
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Thanks for the clarification Joe. :003:
Anytime Hugh; as you well know, my main goal in life is to make you happy. :002:
:003: Okay...then I would like a Ford GT please. But if that isn't possible...I'll settle for a ride in your new acquisition should I make it out that far after I move to Branson for good! :005:
Here ya go...
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...and stop by anytime. :003:
Have you seen the two Netflix documentaries on Shelby and Ford about the battles with Ferrari? I saw them about the time the movie For vs. Ferrari came out. They are both real good, and one featured one of Shelby's former mechanics quite a bit that I know. He lives in Sequim now...still going pretty good.
Brown/yellow
Saw it a while back, called Ford vs Ferrari, :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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That was the movie...there are two Netflix documentaries out besides the movie. One is primarily about Shelby...called Shelby American...the other is called 24 Hour War. Both shed more light on the battle...of course in documentary style.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-03-19 04:58
2 speed & variable speed rearends in the #3445 pic. When I make the pic lighter I can see that the Model A has a Columbia 2 speed rear end. But who cares. :001:
I saw the Shelby American one also, need to look into the 24 hour war. Thanks.
I got suckered into paying $4.99 for the Ford vs Ferrari one on Xfinity, at the time, I thought it was the new movie, not realizing it should have been Ford v Ferrari.
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I didn't realize these two guys talked.... :003:
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FUELING UP
I guess the Mustang just had to tap the brakes which would pull the pin, then launch the Charger into the gas station. Today it would be all done with computer generated graphics and just not have the same realism. Great photo.
"just not have the same realism. Great photo."
So true. Computer graphics can be interesting for some things...but nothing replaces the real thing. Glad Bullitt was shot when it was...wouldn't be the same with computer graphics.
Thanks for the kind comments guys; I could probably watch that movie every week for the rest of my life without a problem. Then again, with the way things are going in the world, that may not be as long as I thought it might be. :004:
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-03-22 14:59
Thanks for the kind comments guys; I could probably watch that movie every week for the rest of my life without a problem. Then again, with the way things are going in the world, that may not be as long as I thought it might be. :004:
The way the world is going...it will be us old guys that survive...the kids don't know how to make do and improvise. If it can't be looked up on their phones or purchased from Amazon...they are hopelessly lost. LOL!!!
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Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-03-22 15:06
The way the world is going...it will be us old guys that survive...the kids don't know how to make do and improvise. If it can't be looked up on their phones or purchased from Amazon...they are hopelessly lost. LOL!!!
True Hugh, but it's us "Old Guys" that are the majority of the statistics. bawl
Oh I do remember that shot in the movie so well. Just saw it not too long ago...early fall before I came 0ut here to Branson.
True enough I suppose...but as long as we stay away from the rest of society...we should survive...and then we can rule the earth! LOL!!! Pass laws that only '57 Fords allowed on the road. That should take care of traffic congestion real quick! :003:
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-03-22 16:31
Oh I do remember that shot in the movie so well. Just saw it not too long ago...early fall before I came 0ut here to Branson.
True enough I suppose...but as long as we stay away from the rest of society...we should survive...and then we can rule the earth! LOL!!! Pass laws that only '57 Fords allowed on the road. That should take care of traffic congestion real quick! :003:
So, I can't drive my '39? bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-03-22 16:58
So, I can't drive my '39? bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl
Joe
You have nothing to worry about. You'll get special dispensation.
Thanks Jay! I knew I could count on you. :003:
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-03-22 16:58
So, I can't drive my '39? bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl
Ah...well...there would have to be exceptions...most assuredly LOL!!!
:003:
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Loading/Offloading 56s
Hey so now you wise guys get around in your 57 and 39s, and I am stuck here outlawed with my 34.
I have a feeling coming, I am going to drive it anyways.....whatcha think Jay, does that mean I am a juvenile delinquent ?
Here's the recreation of the 554 coupe. The owners shop is less than a half mile from our home and you can always hear it when Luke fires it up. He had gotten permission from the Sharp family to recreate it and it's pretty darn close to the original, right down to the iron 392 and the aluminum 417 Donovan.
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-03-23 10:47
Hey so now you wise guys get around in your 57 and 39s, and I am stuck here outlawed with my 34.
I have a feeling coming, I am going to drive it anyways.....whatcha think Jay, does that mean I am a juvenile delinquent ?
We already KNEW you were a juvenile delinquent. LOL!!! Wear that badge with pride! :003:
Now that I have some time at home, I was going through some old photo albums. This is from Puyallup Good Guys show.
That's super clean looking...love it. That's a very effective paint scheme. Spokes and whitewalls don't usually combine for a proper look, imho, but that works great.
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-03-23 12:41
Now that I have some time at home, I was going through some old photo albums. This is from Puyallup Good Guys show.
NICE! What year was that shot? I don't seeing it there...and I always go in the hall...since that is where the food is! LOL!!! I have missed a couple of years over the last 15.
Looks like you were near the entrance? Yes?
Cool! Thanks Randy, the picture's are almost identical, lol.
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YIKES! She almost covered the car with her...uh...er...ah...ATTRIBUTES...yea, that's it...attributes! who was this lovely?
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-03-23 15:08
YIKES! She almost covered the car with her...uh...er...ah...ATTRIBUTES...yea, that's it...attributes! who was this lovely?
DUNNO! :003:
Oh how much I miss the old days...LOL!!! She was hot! :jessica:
It's not those good old days I miss, it's those good old nights.
Yea...those too! :hello2: :burnout:
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-03-23 10:47
Hey so now you wise guys get around in your 57 and 39s, and I am stuck here outlawed with my 34.
I have a feeling coming, I am going to drive it anyways.....whatcha think Jay, does that mean I am a juvenile delinquent ?
G. That would mean that I wouldn't be allowed drive my old 34 Ford also.
Don't worry about being a juvenile delinquent. It only means that you are still young and having fun. So that makes it a good thing.
ON THE LIFT
I remember those old lifts with the safety flip-ups on the ramps to keep cars from rolling off when up in the air. Don't exist today in this age of OSHA which is kind of funny in a way.
Yeah, I remember when they used to be outside, along side the station. I also remember when they were pneumatic/hydraulic and the control was on a stand made from pipe with a lever you would flip back and forth to raise and lower the lift. It also had a safety lock that nobody used.
A friend of mine had his car at a body shop being repaired (a Corvette) and they were tight on space so they put a car on the lift and parked his vette underneath. Well come friday, they close down and someone shut off the compressor.....I guess you can figure what happened next.
Something like this one:
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OUCH! Bet he cried for hours!
The gas station we hung out after school had one of those outdoor, drive-on hoists. PIC: Hoist is just behind the Galaxie.
Those were the days when mechanics were tough as nails...working outside on a car in the cold and wet! UGH!
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-03-24 17:58
OUCH! Bet he cried for hours!
IDK, it was only a Vette. :003:
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-03-25 05:06
IDK, it was only a Vette. :003:
True enough...although...the first two generations of 'Vettes were nice. After that...not so much.
LOL
Dave! How did you get that pic of my former next door neighbors?
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-03-24 15:55
parked his vette underneath. Well come friday, they close down and someone shut off the compressor.....I guess you can figure what happened next.
Something like this one:
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Joe
With all due respect to the fact that the car was a was a Cor@#%$%e. That had to be very painful for the owner.
Jay
Must be Chevy guys who abducted the 57 Ford driver...
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-03-25 10:22
LOL
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Ah...daytime cruisers.
Hopefully those front tires are just rollers until he gets the front end back on.
I hadn't noticed them. Actually neither car looks like the front tires are blessed with much tread.
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Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-03-25 21:34
I hadn't noticed them. Actually neither car looks like the front tires are blessed with much tread.
Those are actually Italian racing tires. Made by Baldino.....
As a young kid, I would get "replacement" tires( with minimal tread ) off junkyard cars.
'61 Starliner..one of my favorite cars, and particularly if Red, which I'm guessing this one is. Twilight Zone time...... Marcia, my high school girlfriend, had a cousin that drove one. Two days ago I was researching some Facebook pages trying to find a lead to Marcia when I found her cousin Carol's page. I sent her a message reminding her of who I was and asking about her cousin. I also asked her if she missed her red Starliner. I mentioned that I was hoping to finally get a lead to Marcia, to another HS friend and just yesterday I got a note from that friend informing me Carol passed away last year.
Quote from: Ford Blue blood on 2020-03-26 05:33
Those are actually Italian racing tires. Made by Baldino.....
ROTFLMAO! Popular tire maker as I recall! :003:
Quote from: Ford Blue blood on 2020-03-26 05:33
Those are actually Italian racing tires. Made by Baldino.....
It wasn't all that uncommon to run "May Pops", cases without enough left on them to retread. Some retreaders would gladly give them away or sell them for a small price. I knew a fellow who used 16 may pops to drive 120 miles. May pops weren't safe at any speed but were manageable at 40-45 mph.
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I always used maypops back in the 50's when I started driving my first car.. Haven't heard that word in a very loooong time. HAHA
A lot going on in this photo.....not to mention the 65 t-bolt. The Fairlane in that year really took a back seat to the new Mustang.
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Quote from: hemidave on 2020-03-26 07:21
As a young kid, I would get "replacement" tires( with minimal tread ) off junkyard cars.
Dave, you sure looked a lot different back then from what I might have imagined. :002:
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HERTZ
Gas Ronda
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Nice shot! Wonder if it was a promotional pic originally?
The pic is Les Ritchey. Gas Ronda was more well dressed, supposedly one of the most well well dressed men in drag racing.
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Such a rich heritage of of car history. Thanks guys. I have never seen any of these pics...let alone any of these guys. I am "only" 67...so some of you guys have a better grasp on much of this than I do...or did. But I like the pics...the history. Plus I came to my car lust at 17...and then stepped away from cars around 30 to deal with life. So...I have major gaps in my car lust.
One of the reasons I like this group so much...you guys help my history passion as well. Keep the pics coming all of you...I will always look at every single one! Once I get moved out here to Branson area...Rich is gonna get tired of seeing me pop around every few months! LOL!!! Alvin too. Although...Alvin keeps on building them...I will keep driving up to shoot ;pics of them for him! :003:
Thanks for the pics guys!
Correct, my bad. I had the picture in with my Gas Ronda pics, because of his association w/ Ritchey. truthfully, they could almost pass for brothers...
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" Ronda began racing Hudson and Buick entries in the early 1950s. He then acquired a Corvette in the late 1950s but felt there was little competition in the sport because a majority of the entries were Chevys. Ronda put Ford on the map when he began racing this ?62 Galaxie, equipped with a 406-cid engine with tri-power carburetion, that kept pace with the favored 409-cid Chevys.
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In addition to being a pioneer of Funny Car, Ronda, a ballroom dance instructor in the San Francisco area during the 1950s, was known for being one of the sharpest-dressed racers of his era.
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In 1964, Ronda won the inaugural Hot Rod Magazine Championships in Riverside, Calif., and the NHRA Top Stock points championship with his newly developed Ford Thunderbolt, a midsize ?64 Fairlane with a 427-cid engine.
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Midway through the 1964 season, Ronda relocated to Russ Davis Ford in Covina, Calif., to be closer to his engine builder and tuner, Les Ritchey. Ritchey played a major role in Ronda?s success and became Ronda?s best friend. Tragedy struck in 1966 when Ritchey was involved in a fatal racing accident in Fontana, Calif.
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In 1966, Ford provided Ronda with his first Funny Car. Ronda?s new stretched-wheelbase, injected Mustang entry posted record-breaking eight-second times to win the Bakersfield March Meet.
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Ronda was racing Funny Cars on a full-time basis by 1966, but he temporarily returned to Super Stock to help Ford debut the first-generation Cobra Jet Mustangs at the 1968 Winternationals.
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The highlight of Ronda?s career was driving his new Mach 1 Mustang, built by Logghe Bros., to the winner's circle at the 1969 Orange County Int?l Raceway Manufacturers Championships. In 1970, Ronda suffered severe burns from an engine explosion while racing in Phoenix, which ultimately ended his driving career.
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When I was a kid holidaying with family in the LA area in 1969 I got to go to a manufactures funny car meet at OCIR. Ford, Mercury, Plymouth, Dodge, Chevy were divided into teams. There had to have been 40-50 funny cars for this event. Anyway, by the end of the night Gas Ronda won the event in the picture you have him posing with in the 69 Mustang. He looks to be well in his 70's-80's in that photo. Yes your right they could pass as brothers.
I guess I should have read the headers on the photos. It does mention his win at OCIR.
'40
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That pic sure sends the mind wondering. Any info on it, Joe? Anybody got a guess as to what they went to?
If I remember correctly, it was taken years ago at a junkyard in Canada.
I'll look back and see if i have anything on it.
Nice rod
Rich, on the pic of the Model A frames; it was supposedly taken in Mexico, unknown time. That's all I've got. :'(
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As soon as someone perfects time travel...I know EXACTLY what day, time and place I wanna go to! :003:
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-03-29 16:49
As soon as someone perfects time travel...I know EXACTLY what day, time and place I wanna go to! :003:
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I'v got a 31 3window, and the only one that has ever been bent over it like that is me and a couple of my buddies, sure hope no one gets the wrong idea.
No offense pisan...but...you are quite safe. She was/is a much more interesting "mechanic!"! LOL!!!
Quote from: alvin stadel on 2020-03-29 20:02
I'v got a 31 3window ...
A 3 window '31 Ford model A coupe? Typo?
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The "boys" at work !
AH! The Masters of comedy! Nice one Dave!
Sorry Tom, didn't mean to screw with you. It's a 31 Plymouth, the only none ford I have. most guys think it is a model A until they look at the rear window.
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This one and the Skairlane are my favorite new gassers. I'd like to go to one of the SEGA events one day, they look like a blast.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-03-30 20:17
This one and the Skairlane are my favorite new gassers. I'd like to go to one of the SEGA events one day, they look like a blast.
I agree about going. My wet dream is to get my white Courier back to it's racing glory and go and maybe make a few passes. I so need to this move to Branson DONE so i can have my winters to spend in the shop and make some progress on my cars!
Quote from: alvin stadel on 2020-03-30 11:29
Sorry Tom, didn't mean to screw with you. It's a 31 Plymouth ...
Well, I knew it couldn't be a '31 Ford coupe. Thought that maybe it was just a typo & that you had meant to say '32, '33, '34 or maybe '31
5 window.
But a
Plymouth?! Isn't that considered blasphemy to use that word or the 'C' word here? :002:
The "C" word is worse...by a lot! :tongue2:
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Tom, the way the Plymouth came about was a very close friend of mine had started to make a street rod out of it. He died of a massive heart attack about midway though the project. His widow desided to move and wanted me to have the car so I bought it from her. He had put a 350 \ 350 in it. I sold them both before I ever took it from her garage. In all the years I'v done this I have never bastardized a car, meaning if it is a ford it has ford power, same with mopar and Gm. Now that being said because there very few 31 Plymouth parts available and I discovered that model A parts will bolt right on and even look right. So mister Ford played a large part in finishing up this project, from the mustang front end to the 8in rear end. It's a fun car even if it isn't stamped with a blue oval.
Having fun
I have to say that Alvin's 31 Plymouth is nice. It'd look great in my garage!
Well, let's see it Alvin!
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Am I shooting pics of that as well Alvin? I will... :003: No problem! I have LOTS of memory cards! LOL!!! I just need to get out of this travel ban garbage!
Who doesn't appreciate a NICE, Flamed 3 window?
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Where? :041:
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Loading a '57
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I need my car washed...actually I need all 15 of them washed! :003:
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'58 Skyliner
Picture 3569
I am always amazed when I see those old pictures of How the Fords with their Y blocks would be towing big house trailers all over the place.
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If we could still get that price...I'd take two! LOL!!!
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OH MY! Not sure I could afford that...I suspect would be more expensive than the two 427's above! LOL!!! :thumbsup:
J M
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SWEET!
Fairlane Friday! Local guy from the old Ford dealer Fogg Motors in New Westminster, B.C.. Picture I think was taken at Arlington Drag Strip, Washington.
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'67 R code Comet.
427....
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TORONTO
R code Comet brought back memories. Look how close that clutch fan is to the radiator. My '66 Fairlane GT with a CJ with about that much clearance. One day out of the blue, a hard second gear and the fan jumped into the radiator. Just once, a new radiator and it never did it again but what a mess.
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The Ford V8 promotional film; pretty cool, especially for the time. Lot of technical inspections I never realized they did back in the day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=946&v=3RB3z1er9Sw&feature=emb_logo
That dragster? Talk about bare-bones racing! Tat looks terrifying by today's standards! LOL!!! :burnout:
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-04-04 14:57
The Ford V8 promotional film; pretty cool, especially for the time. Lot of technical inspections I never realized they did back in the day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=946&v=3RB3z1er9Sw&feature=emb_logo
Just watched the whole film. Interesting film. Thanks for the posting! :003:
Glad you enjoyed it, I even gave you a Karma point. :003:
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Thanks! :003: And to top it off...a pic of a lovely lady and a sweet car! Nice!!!
Cyclone Saturday..... What a thrill it must have been running a SOHC on 95% nitromethane back in the day...............
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Would STILL be a thrill! :burnout: :003:
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Dave...there must have been a few of those made. I remember seeing one in San Diego in the 70's. always wondered if they really ran or not...or if they did, could them move?
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R.I.P.
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I should be ashamed (but I'm not) for what I am thinking of this series of ladies and rods Joe! :003:
I figured we all could use a little more excitement in our lives during these trying times. :003:
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Ford briquettes! I know there was a reason for Ford to produce them, but my memory again. Was it leftovers or scraps from the earlier days of wood bracing from the cars?
MIMI
I read the history of "Kingsford Charcoal" on the bag. Henry Ford invented the charcoal briquet to use piles of Model T wood scraps. Didn't realize they were at some point called "Ford". I had no idea!
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-04-07 09:29
MIMI
Interesting, never heard of that product before. I wonder how it worked out?
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-04-07 09:29
MIMI
Obviously the tire didn't become the big hit it was hoped to be. But I bet guys "flipped" over Mimi! :003:
If memory serves me correct, King was Henry's brother-in-law and ran the wood mill in Iron Mountain, Michigan that milled wood for the woodies. It was King's idea and partnered with Henry.
I was in Iron Mountain a few years ago and looked around for some historical type photo ops and the people I asked, knew nothing about the automotive history in the area.
T
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-04-07 11:07
If memory serves me correct, King was Henry's brother-in-law and ran the wood mill in Iron Mountain, Michigan that milled wood for the woodies. It was King's idea and partnered with Henry.
I was in Iron Mountain a few years ago and looked around for some historical type photo ops and the people I asked, knew nothing about the automotive history in the area.
T
My wife bought one a book one year for Christmas on the rouge and how it operated. Henry was a master at optimizing everything for as much money as possible. The Kingsford charcoal was indeed his way of disposing of the scrap wood for profit.
You would think people at Iron Mountain would try and make ALL of the history available wouldn't you? Kids nowadays aren't taught much of anything resembling history though. Sadly.
I always thought it was humorous in my later years that my father, a devoted B-tie guy...swore by Kingsford charcoal. Never bought anything else. LOL!!! If he had only known... :003:
"Everyone associates Henry Ford with the automobile and the invention of the assembly line, but you also have the American businessman to thank for your backyard cookouts. An avid outdoorsman and early environmentalist, Henry Ford found a way to solve two problems-waste from his sawmill and cooking fuel source for camping trips-with the invention of Kingsford Charcoal. That's Mr. Kingsford on the right:
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Henry Ford Needed Wood to Make His Model T Cars
Henry Ford was experiencing phenomenal success with this assembly-line produced Model T Fords. By 1919, his company was producing a million cars a year. About 100 board feet of wood went into each car-in the steering wheel, dashboard, and other parts. Ford wanted his own source of wood so he wasn't at the mercy of other suppliers and inconsistent costs. So he contacted his cousin's husband, Edward G. Kingsford, a Michigan real estate agent, to help him find and purchase timberland. He found just want he needed in Iron Mountain, Michigan. Ford built a sawmill there to cut the wood for shipping to Detroit.
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An Early Environmentalist, Ford Was Concerned About Waste
Ford, a nature-lover, was also an early environmentalist and lived by the motto, "reduce, reuse, and recycle." He was bothered by the wasted wood at his Iron Mountain sawmill. There was a surplus of leftover stumps, branches, and sawdust. Ford hated to see the resources going unused and sought a way to make use of the byproducts of his sawmill.
When he wasn't overseeing production at his Ford Assembly Plant, Henry Ford loved to spend time in the outdoors. He frequently went on camping trips with his cousin-in-law, Kingsford, and his friends, inventor Thomas Edison and American naturalist and essayist, John Burroughs. It was on one of these camping trips that Ford figured out what he could make with the scrap wood and sawdust from his sawmill.
The Birth of the Charcoal Briquette
One problem ford often encountered when camping was finding enough dry wood and kindling to build and sustain a fire that was hot enough to cook food over. Ford found that he could use the scraps and sawdust, pressed into lumps held together by tar and cornstarch, as a quick and easy way to start cooking a fire. He named these lumps charcoal briquettes and built a briquette manufacturing facility next door to the sawmill. He sold the briquettes in picnic packs and promoted the link between owning an automobile and experiencing the great outdoors.
Edward G. Kingsford (left) and Henry Ford
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Briquette Became Kingsford Charcoal
Ford's charcoal briquette division was purchased by a team of investors in 1951. The conglomerate renamed the briquettes Kingsford Charcoal in honor of Edward Kingsford. Today, Kingsford Charcoal is still made in America using 100% American materials. In fact, more than one million tons of wood waste finds new life as charcoal briquettes every year.
Henry Ford was a visionary entrepreneur who found an innovative way to solve two problems with one invention. The next time we enjoy a burger or hot dog cooked over a charcoal grill, we should give a big thanks to Henry Ford."
....and now, back to our regularly scheduled programming.... :003:
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Joe to the rescue with apiece of education containing a valuable history lesson.
Joe to the rescue with ART class as well. :003:
Joe should get a degree from some major university for his teachings! :006:
What A SEGUE!!!
Quote from: lalessi1 on 2020-04-07 18:20
What A SEGUE!!!
He does that so SSSSSMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTH doesn't he? :005:
:003:.... Thanks guys, but all I do is repeat things, lol.
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THAT is what a teacher does...LOL!!! Repeat and educate. Only difference is...YOU...aren't giving us pop quizzes or tests with 20 questions of multiple choice or essay answers! :wave: whew!
Took this at Irwindale around 1969? I'm not sure if the Cougar funny car was even Ford powered, but back in that era most Ford bodied funny cars did have a cammer under the hood.
I got to race at this track in around 1976 in my Boss 302 on a Wednesday night grudge race. Made one pass in the high 14's and second pass I broke or lost the clutch adjustment rod.
I was pushed off the track and left it there for the night. Nice thing back then is you could go to your local Ford dealer and buy the part you needed. Downey Ford had it in stock, so a trip back to the track on Thursday and I was off in an hour.
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wow Joe! those brandnew 57s....out of 5 cars 3 appear to be silver mocha....so pretty ! the solid silver mocha 4dr HT appears to have a red interior? what a striking color combo. everybody that has ever seen or mixed silver mocha in person will know that there is a lot of red in that brownish metalic paint.
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Re: #3616, wonder why all the mirrors are turned up on end?
That is probably the way they had to be to get screwed into the bracket. Nice observation.
BRRRRRR
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Ah the good days...when a lovely lass would help you with things like washing your car...just so she could be around you.
Today...eh...not so much. I miss the old ways!
Somebody needs to teach mister shirtless how to wash a car. Cute girlfriend though.
You read my mind. Then I thought maybe it was a staged pic of some sort. Sure couldn't sit on one of today's fenders like that...unless you had money for body shop work!
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I'll take the Sunliner in the showroom ^^^......or this one !
Dave...is there a car in your pic? :001:
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Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-04-09 10:57
Dave...is there a car in your pic? :001:
What car...LOL....ok, here's one
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-04-09 14:50
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What year T'Bird is this?
Thanks
John
Decal on the rear fender says 1961
Ford Thunderbird Indy 500 Pace Car 1961
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:crowd: I think everyone would like to own that truck...with the accessories included!
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-04-05 10:41.
I sent that pic of the double ended '39 to my friends named Connelly. The spelling of that name is a little unusual, it's more often spelled Connley or Connoly. Their oldest son, who is about 27, wanted to know more about the pic, such as where it was taken. Maybe he had some distant relatives from there. Took a long time to find this pic since I could not read the location painted on the right fender.
This pic is actually an old postcard that someone wants to sell for 25 bucks. Saw the same postcard that someone else wants to sell for $10 more!
Never could find anything about the cafe.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-04-10 11:57
Decal on the rear fender says 1961
OOPS! I didn't see that. Call me Mr. Obvious.
Quote from: KYBlueOval on 2020-04-10 16:55
OOPS! I didn't see that. Call me Mr. Obvious.
That's Captain Obvious. Just kidding..... :003:
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Quote from: KYBlueOval on 2020-04-10 16:55
OOPS! I didn't see that. Call me Mr. Obvious.
Blame it on the virus...your eyes are getting murky after being stuck inside with nothing to do but look at the computer. :003:
Fairlane Friday's. Good Fairlane Friday!
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'64 BB Conv
The late Keith Moon from the Who.
NICE FLAMES!
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Nice car...
Nice flames...
BEYOND mice lassie...
All ruined by the wrong motor! Sure looks like one of those brand "X" things. sigh >:(
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Happy Easter Everyone !
Happy Easter to all of you also.
Try to stay home and shelter in place if possible.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-04-12 05:56
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I need some that 99 Ethyl for my Mustang to run like it should.
Yep..Happy Easter, or at least happy as possible.
We have a gas station here in town out by the dragstrip that sells Sunoco racing fuel at the pump. I'll take a drive by sometime just to see what the octanes available are, but I had a guy in a BMW tell me it was as high as 114 octane!
I don't even run the hi-test in my '57. Can't afford it, and the car "runs" fine on the 88 mid grade. If I put hi-test in it, it screws the computer up for a while when I drop back down. It definetly doesn't like the low grade.
Same to you and yours. :002:
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-04-12 13:55
Yep..Happy Easter, or at least happy as possible.
I don't even run the hi-test in my '57. Can't afford it, and the car "runs" fine on the 88 mid grade. If I put hi-test in it, it screws the computer up for a while when I drop back down. It definetly doesn't like the low grade.
Computer? Um.......
Rich I'm thinking that I got gypped. I can't find the computer anywhere on my car..
Fuzzy Easter too all! Hope the bunny brought every one a LOT of chocolate...the perfect medicine for all things annoying...like being sequestered inside!
What?!
This is an April 7th, 1966 advertisement by Jackson Goldie Ford in the Oakland Tribune of Oakland, California.
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This is an April 8th, 1968 advertisement by John North Ford in The Emporia Gazette of Emporia, Kansas. Only two Mustangs were listed, one Seafoam Green and the other Brittany Blue.
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The dealer in Oakland wouls have regretted that "life time guarantee" had I bought a car from him. I still have my 2nd, 3rd, 7th 9th and several other cars. First was stolen, along with the 4th. Neither was ever recovered...or I'd have them too. Especially the 4th...it was a '57 2-door sedan.
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Lee, MA
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-04-12 19:12
The dealer in Oakland wouls have regretted that "life time guarantee" had I bought a car from him. I still have my 2nd, 3rd, 7th 9th and several other cars. First was stolen, along with the 4th. Neither was ever recovered...or I'd have them too. Especially the 4th...it was a '57 2-door sedan.
Mustang6984
Just curious ... How old was #4, the 57 2 door sedan when it got stolen? Was it still a relatively new car?
It was very painful reading that. IMHO, old car thieves should be placed in a locked room filled with the owner and his friends and relatives, before they go to jail.
Jay
Joe
Are you still going into that place every day to work ?
While food shopping last week, I saw the guy that counts the cars at the Friday night cruise in Halifax. He told me that Ralph Smith cancelled it indefinitely.
I have not heard from Great Woods flea market this year and assume that it is cancelled also. I was thinking about not going anyways.
It's best to shelter in place at home.
When we can get out, I would like to come and see your new car. Were you able to get high insurance without an appraisal?
Stay in touch.
Jay
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2020-04-13 08:33
Mustang6984
Just curious ... How old was #4, the 57 2 door sedan when it got stolen? Was it still a relatively new car?
It was very painful reading that. IMHO, old car thieves should be placed in a locked room filled with the owner and his friends and relatives, before they go to jail.
Jay
It was about 18-19 years old. I searched junk yards and all over for 6 months and never saw it. The stolen report is still out there...but I doubt it will ever surface now. But every time I see a story about someone's stolen car showing up 20-25 years later...I think of that car.
I agree...to me a car is no different than a horse back in the 1800's. Steal a horse then...and you got to "hang around" for awhile longer than you might have planned.
Hugh
Hugh
I hope that you still have the title and paperwork on your 57, especially the stolen vehicle report.. If it ever shows up, it is still your car. I have even heard of a stolen car getting a real expensive restoration. The owner got it back all restored many years later.
That's correct in the old days when someone stole a horse, they did get to "hang around longer than they planned."
They need that.
Jay
LOL!!! I do still have the title. My wife will tell you I NEVER toss anything! :003: and I was a cop so I know how important that can be too.
I think there was a story a couple of years ago maybe more) about a guy who got a Mustang back that had been restored and was then recovered. Felt sorry for the guy who lost the car...as he was a few owners past the idiot who stole it. I have seen a few Corvettes the same way.
It's very possible that we are both talking about the same car but it was some time ago and the details are kinda fuzzy. I'm retired law enforcement also.
Mine was on the west coast...in Olympia. Who knows where it is now. <sigh> Was a perfect body...so straight...blue and white...I miss that car. :sad10:
Jay, yes I am still at the jail, but on a bright note, they are giving us hazardous pay. :002:
I was out in the '39 yesterday, and we made it out to Middleboro and I came close to going by yor house, but my wife told me not to' especially with your wife's health issues. bawl
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Twin Flatheads? Oh be still my beating heart! Just made my day! :burnout:
My wet dream is to buy one of those '34 Factory Five coupes and put a flathead in it! :003:
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-04-13 17:00
Twin Flatheads? Oh be still my beating heart! Just made my day! :burnout:
My wet dream is to buy one of those '34 Factory Five coupes and put a flathead in it! :003:
Let me know when you are ready. Dave Smith is a good friend of mine..... :004:
Will do. I need to get moved...soon. I am going crazy with this 2-household thing...and get my Courier finished. I went to his school back in '06. Was a great experience. Cannot say enough good things about that experience. Top drawer operation from Friday to Sunday. Still get his e-mails...read them as soon as I get them. Impressive fellow.
My hope is to build one...then get on his list of builders and build one or two a winter for others who want one, but are not mechanically inclined or haven't the time. Wishes...a good thing to have ya' know?! LOL!!!
Joe
For the longest time I didn't tell my wife that you were actually working there. Every so often I would just casually say to her that
you are home from jail. She would question me and I didn't say anything, just that you were out. She couldn't figure out how you could be in jail and be able to come by with that pretty 57 Ford.
I finally had to tell her that you work there. Jay
ROTFLMAO! THAT...is hilarious! LOL!!! How long did she beat you?
I used to tell people I was a city employee...just didn't say what part of the city. Later when I went to contract work I just said I was a private contractor...and let them think what they may! :003:
^Too funny. :003:
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Very nice !
Nice uh...luggage Joe! :002:
Headlights seem to be a bit more attractive there Dave...something pretty bright about them! :005:
As good as it gets.
One of my favourites.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^OH SWEET!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I am going to save that pic, and when I get home send it to my Canon photo printer and make myself a copy! Nice shot! did you take that?
Ah...more! Thanks for feeding my flathead lust! :burnout:
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Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-04-14 12:49
As good as it gets.
That sure looks like Bakersfield. That car is a regular at The March Meet each year.
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Sunliner
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Now THAT is a wheelie! LOL!!! How's that go...? First you say it...then you do it? Bet there was a color check on the skivvies after that! YIKES! :icon_pale:
Joe
#3688
Do you have any idea what happened to that black 3 window coupe that's standing straight up in the air on it's (gas tank cover) back panel ?
Sorry Jay, no other info than he must have wished he launched at a much higher RPM, lol.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-04-15 17:57
Sorry jay, no other info than he must have wished he launched at a much higher RPM, lol.
Or that he listened to the buddy who said..."
I might suggest a set of wheelie bars...just in case..." :003:
wow, ok, education time again for a non-racer. Why would he have wished to launch at a higher rpm? I'm guessing to prevent the slicks from grabbing so much??
^ Correct :003:
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WOW....beautiful motor ^^^
Now that would look sweet between the rails of a '30's era coupe!
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Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-04-16 10:47
Now that would look sweet between the rails of a '30's era coupe!
Like in one of these !
So..I am old fashioned...but...well...she was cute until she got all inked up. Not an improvement. :(
Like the car though. :003:
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-04-16 14:35
Like in one of these !
Sure Dave! Have them delivered to my house please. You have Time machine that can make that transport right? LOL!!!
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-04-16 14:37
So..I am old fashioned...but...well...she was cute until she got all inked up. Not an improvement. :(
Like the car though. :003:
I'm with you, I don't like my women looking like a coloring book.
FIFY....
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:a coloring book"...that's good. Never heard it put that way.
Much better 2nd pic. :003:
Taking Fluffy on the family picnic! YIKES! Canned cat food puts on the pounds!
Nice truck and car!
Thunderbolt Thursday.....Great way to show up at the races with a 64 Fairlane combo.
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I spent a lot of time in one of those Fairlane station wagons...riding to school with the yappy Kuntz sisters. <shudder> Liked the car...not the sisters...not so much.
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FORD PERFORMANCE
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I want one of each please Dave! :003:
Good quiz for everyone would be to name each engine. :003:
Top Left (Red Block) SOHC 302 3-Valve
Top Right SOHC 289 2-Valve
Bottom Right Twisted Chamber 429
Bottom Left Turbucharged Indy DOHC
Center 3-Valve Pushrod 427 Calliope
DAMN! That didn't take long! LOL!!! :004:
What an engine the Calliope would have been quite the piece if it had went into production. The Boss 429 would be a pre-production engine with the F O R D rocker covers.
Well done!
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is that a hemi? Why yes, YES it is a Ford hemi, officer!
Dis someone say Hemi?
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Picture 3716 At first glance the traffic officer Looks like Barney Fife but it cant be because that officer has his ammo pouches on correct.
Barney had his always had his upside down.
They really gutted that engine compartment to get that cammer in a 56 bird, looks like the hood is held on with four pins.
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Quote from: 2rusty57 on 2020-04-17 21:57
Can u give advice on Mcleod hydronic clutch set up
This subject should be moved to its own topic. It will likely get a bit of discussion.
done.....moved to it's own thread in this general discusions area.
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2020-04-17 20:02
Picture 3716 At first glance the traffic officer Looks like Barney Fife but it cant be because that officer has his ammo pouches on correct.
Barney had his always had his upside down.
Sure looks like him. If I remember correctly they only gave him a real bullet once.
NICE '57
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2020-04-18 09:03
Sure looks like him. If I remember correctly they only gave him a real bullet once.
And he had to keep it in his pocket! I knew a few guys like that over the years...but then...the town they were in...at that time...was kinda like Mayberry. Sadly...it isn't anymore.
I had a link sent with pictures of old Canadian prairie towns. I started going through it and decided to save the Ford, gas stations, dealership, equipment photos. After I got through it I read the intro and it said there were 18,000 pictures and I had saved 1,350 cool ones. I won't overload the system but will post some if you like them. I saved this one for the fuel truck and as I examined it I found the FORD sign on the roof. Would I like to have that now.
Jim and Mustang6984
Both of you are correct.
Barney was only allowed to have just one and that one got him into enough trouble..
Jay
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-04-18 12:47
I had a link sent with pictures of old Canadian prairie towns. I started going through it and decided to save the Ford, gas stations, dealership, equipment photos. After I got through it I read the intro and it said there were 18,000 pictures and I had saved 1,350 cool ones. I won't overload the system but will post some if you like them. I saved this one for the fuel truck and as I examined it I found the FORD sign on the roof. Would I like to have that now.
Sweet pic. I can see we are in for a steady diet of old pics! :003: You will hear no complaints frm me! LOL!!!
If Barney wasn't in trouble...Barney was asleep...although at times THAT could also mean he was in trouble. Poor guy couldn't seem to avoid it no matter what he did or didn't do! :005:
OK, here is a little teaser.
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-04-18 16:35
OK, here is a little teaser.
Keep them coming please ! ^^^
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-04-18 16:35
OK, here is a little teaser.
:wav: crowd pleaser :041:
Does that mean I get to go vacation for a while? :001:
Guess not, sigh...... :102:
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-04-18 18:15
Does that mean I get to go vacation for a while? :001:
LOL!!! NO! It means we have MORE pics to enjoy! Think of yourself as an inspiration to others. :002:
OKAY!!!! OKAY!!!!! I'LL KEEP POSTING! GEEEZ, THERE'S NO REST FOR THE WEARY IN THIS DAMN PLACE!!!! :naughty:
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Think of it as appreciation! LOL!!!
Nice pic. Don't see racers any more that work out of a van to get ready. Everything is so money heavy now.
That guy in the pic could be a young Gordon Chance... https://gordonchance.weebly.com/ not much has changed...he is still THAT kid. He isn't allowed to drive anymore...but he is still tinkering with and building cars near me in Sequim WA. Visiting him...is like listening to a history book talk!
IDK, not much hair; every picture I have ever seen of Gordon, he had a pretty good size mop up there....
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And he still does have a decent amount. LOL!!! Though not 60's-like in mass.
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IMPRESSIVE POWER
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
OOPs! Kind of an excessive car wash there!
I did reference the June 1968 Hot Rod my brother left behind.
And here we were all thinking you were a Ford motor MENSA! <sigh> The bubble has been pierced! :'(
OK,
Here goes your Sunday batch and what I was looking at, Castor is the Ford dealer delivering 7 new cars, Athabasca is a cool building with a F1 like mine, Barons 1 has the Ford sign hanging out front.
Now go wash your hands.
Terry
I did say reference, now known as spellcheck.
I have been reading that issue for 52 years and it was about 18 feet from my desk when I grabbed it. And I am on page 46 looking at pictures of Hubert Platt's CobraJet and Dick Loehr's Mustang funny car now. Just got called for pancakes so Adios.
Pancakes? and Fords? What a beautiful Sunday!
I love F1's!
Great set of pics too! Thanks!
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-04-19 10:30
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"Dad, the car won`t start. I think it may be flooded!"
LOL!!! Now that is funny!!!
mustang 6982
There is also the possibility that the very bright young man who is apparently standing on the left quarter also told them at the car wash to the engine also while it was there.
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22
Wonder what that toy T-Bird would be worth today?
Would that race car and the young lady be from Shamrock Texas per chance? Interesting town...Rich has probably been there.
I have them sorted them alphabetically, so some are early 1900's and the 1950's stuff will come as I get to that town.
It amazes me the conditions that these cars were driven, we have guys now who will not take the car out on a gray day, and these guys are out there is rural conditions, no warranty, no cellphone communication, gasoline from the drug store, ****ty tires.
The gas pumps! YES! Love those old pumps. one of these days...
I have a one of one '88 Saleen convertible...when I bought it (2001) it had 21k on it. Today it is 2k short of 100k. Steve Saleen and I have known one another now since '02...and when ever he sees the car he looks to see what the miles are on the odometer...and smiles. As he said, they were built to be driven! He has seen it not only in WA state, but Nashville TN and Birmingham AL. People think I am crazy...I think I enjoy the drive!
no paved roads!
Cool pics FiveSevenLiter, anyway to make the size bigger when posting?
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Barbara Eden had good taste in cars or was that "masters" Mach 1?
HEY! My Mustang! How'd she get it out of my shop?!?!?!
1969 Mustang Mach 1, best looking musclecar ever made. I prefer the 4 headlights and side ducts over the 70, but just me. :003:
Agreed
Makes three of us. No argument there from me. :006:
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-04-20 18:44
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A guy I know up here in BC Canada has owned Barbara Edens 69 Mach 1 for several years now. It an Acapulco Blue 428 Q code car.
Nice provenance! I be jealous!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szECpTGoXFk
I dream of Jeannie theme song
Quote from: 59meteor on 2020-04-21 00:20
A guy I know up here in BC Canada has owned Barbara Edens 69 Mach 1 for several years now. It an Acapulco Blue 428 Q code car.
I'm jealous. :003:
A couple of hot ones
If you know how to enlarge them, let me know.
Some of them are a large format when I down loaded them.
Terry
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What a pair of beauties! I miss the old days...seriously! :003:
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Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-04-21 13:02
If you know how to enlarge them, let me know.
Some of them are a large format when I down loaded them.
Terry
IDK Terry, I just attached the above picture and also posted it with IMGUR. When I click on my attachment, it is the same size as the IMGUR picture. Are your pics smaller when you scanned them in?
That is one REALLY OLD radar unit! LOL!!
I e-'d Terry and told him I would hep him. I have a couple of programs that will do it, one is free off the internet. Waiting now for him to e- me back.
Thanks guys, I have sent three (3) photos to play with.
T :canada:
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-04-21 14:43
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Went to school with Al Means Jr. Very nice guy.
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-04-21 17:08
Thanks guys, I have sent three (3) photos to play with.
T :canada:
So the first one is an original Terry sent me...the other is one I modified. I think that one is pretty good size. I sent him the easy tutorial.
Agreed, much easier to see the details. :icon_salut:
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HERTZ
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Thursday night...trying to get ready for those all important Friday night and Saturday night cruises!
BILLY GIBBONS
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Nice taste in cars to be sure!
Yeah he does, check out his 1933 Ford Coupe a.k.a. Wiskeyrunner
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....and not sure if I'm allowed to do this, but check out his awesome 1948 Cadillac Series 62 a.k.a. CadZZilla
https://www.reddit.com/r/Autos/comments/2jbptz/1948_cadzilla_the_custom_cadillac_sedanette_owned/
I have seen that car. He has some pretty nice rides. Surprised he hasn't been on Jay's Garage on CNBC yet. I know they know each other. He's just a car guy who happens to also play music now and then. :001:
Good part is he drives them all. There was a picture of Cadzilla in mud puddle and dirt splashed up the side, forget where and when (been to bed since then) but they don't sit in a warehouse waiting for the tires to go flat.
Man after my own heart! If has wheels...and a functioning motor...then it needs to be racking up miles on the odometer!!!
Mickey Thompson and his 427 Ford FE engine with aluminum hemi heads of his own design.
(https://i.imgur.com/G4s8EB6.jpg)
"Interestingly enough, the bore spacing of the Chrysler, Pontiac, and Ford FE V-8s are quite similar, at 4.562, 4.62, and 4.63 inches, respectively. Another coincidence: All three engines employ a head bolt arrangement with 10 fasteners per bank. The patterns are similar, yet not identical and do not line up, nor do the water passages and other features. So M/T's hemi castings aren't Mopar knockoffs-at most, they could be described as conceptually based on the Chrysler but adapted to different architectures. Rather cleverly, too. The M/T castings do share a few parts with the Chrysler, including the intake rocker arms and valve covers. M/T also marketed aluminum replacement heads for the Chrysler, by the way. They listed at $725 per pair in the '64 M/T catalog, while the Pontiac and Ford heads were $900."
Oh what would a pair of those heads be worth today? IF you could find a pair that is. I have a pair of his valve covers from the 60's...never been on a car. (regular FE valve covers...not the hemi ones.) That is as close as I have gotten to one of his engines. I traded window trim for a '57 sedan windshield for them. I think I did okay in that trade.
Lets see if H.C.'s magic works.
Or are these better?
Look much better! Glad I could help. You are a fine student! LOL!!!
The High River photo is fantastic. Looks like they got the whole town together for anybody who owned a car for a picture.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-04-22 16:39
Mickey Thompson and his 427 Ford FE engine with aluminum hemi heads of his own design.
(https://i.imgur.com/G4s8EB6.jpg)
"Interestingly enough, the bore spacing of the Chrysler, Pontiac, and Ford FE V-8s are quite similar, at 4.562, 4.62, and 4.63 inches, respectively. Another coincidence: All three engines employ a head bolt arrangement with 10 fasteners per bank. The patterns are similar, yet not identical and do not line up, nor do the water passages and other features. So M/T's hemi castings aren't Mopar knockoffs-at most, they could be described as conceptually based on the Chrysler but adapted to different architectures. Rather cleverly, too. The M/T castings do share a few parts with the Chrysler, including the intake rocker arms and valve covers. M/T also marketed aluminum replacement heads for the Chrysler, by the way. They listed at $725 per pair in the '64 M/T catalog, while the Pontiac and Ford heads were $900."
This was downfall of the M/T Hemi head. Looks a piece of crab leg that has to work a 7000 rpm.
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MUCH better!! Thanks.
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HOT SUNLINER !!
Oh I do remember those one-legged jacks! And hated them too. Used to see them everywhere in junkyards. Haven't seen one in a long time.
Dave...a sedan that weighed 4200+ pounds? WOW! I never thought they were that heavy. My 'Courier weighed that with my 352 in it, and full tank of gas. I thought the sedans were in the low 3000's...like around 32-3400 pounds. Is that normal weight for them then at 4200?
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-04-23 11:59
Oh I do remember those one-legged jacks! And hated them too. Used to see them everywhere in junkyards. Haven't seen one in a long time.
Dave...a sedan that weighed 4200+ pounds? WOW! I never thought they were that heavy. My 'Courier weighed that with my 352 in it, and full tank of gas. I thought the sedans were in the low 3000's...like around 32-3400 pounds. Is that normal weight for them then at 4200?
It's actually a Sunliner, and I guess the 383 added to the weight.
Ah...okay...guess that would explain it. Thanks.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-04-23 11:59
Oh I do remember those one-legged jacks! And hated them too. Used to see them everywhere in junkyards. Haven't seen one in a long time.
Dave...a sedan that weighed 4200+ pounds? WOW! I never thought they were that heavy. My 'Courier weighed that with my 352 in it, and full tank of gas. I thought the sedans were in the low 3000's...like around 32-3400 pounds. Is that normal weight for them then at 4200?
There is one in my 57 but it is strictly for display. I keep a nice scissors jack and blocks of wood all wrapped up and tucked away just in case.
do need a jack.
Bonus Day, my work computer went off line so I have some free time to play.
T
looks like you got the hang of that re-sizing gig! Good pics. I noticed the Safeway distributor building...must have been shot in WA or perhaps B.C. right?
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Helper springs.
Lol
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Quote from: Tom S on 2020-04-24 03:00
Helper springs.
Yup, trailer hitch, non stock dual exhaust and a slow leak in the pinion seal. Bet there is a boat on that hitch or a "speed contest" car.....
HOOLA HOOP PARTY
That is too cool Dave !
Rudy Ray Moore was a R&B artist, and I have been spinning this record here for decades ! a party dancefloor filler. Now, it is cool to see him in person and knowing he even drove a 57 Ford !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-eYLZoDSD4
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-04-24 10:34
That is too cool Dave !
Rudy Ray Moore was a R&B artist, and I have been spinning this record here for decades ! a party dancefloor filler. Now, it is cool to see him in person and knowing he even drove a 57 Ford !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-eYLZoDSD4
Great song, thanks for posting !
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LOL!!! There really was such a thing? Funny!
obviously pre-EPA. LOL, I can't imagine the idea of piping poisonous gas under a house with occupants inside.
I deleted my last line........borderline political
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-04-24 16:54
I deleted my last line........borderline political
Now you have to send us all that last line...'cause inquiring minds need to know! LOL!!! (no one here is gonna complain or scream "political"...you know that...right?) :003:
Nope, don't want to open doors, particularly at this time when probably all of us are more opiniated than normal times. Learned my lesson back a few years ago when I opened the door on the Highwayman fiasco.
Ah...yea...okay...well you can tell me in a PM then...'cause I am curious...and need a good laugh after the day I had. OR...I can call you. We haven't communicated verbally for a time...
ME TOO!!!!!! ME TOO!!!!! PM ME TOO!!!!! I NEED TO KNOW!!!!!
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Completed in 1936, the Southern California Plating Company's 1935 Ford delivery truck was the first car that wore a DuVall Windshield. The windshield was a 5-piece bronze casting, originally designed to fit the 1935 - 1946 Ford cowl. After the truck hit the streets, it wasn't long before requests started coming in for similar V-windshields. It became another product manufactured by So. Cal. Plating, and George DuVall was in charge of both the design and production. The first recognized instance of a DuVall Windshield on a hot rod dates back to the early 1940's, when Jimmy Summers installed a windshield on Jack Dorn's 1932 Ford roadster.
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I wonder what ever happened to that Sedan Delivery? Would look REAL good in my garage in the winter...on the road with me behind the wheel in the summer! :003:
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-04-24 17:16Now you have to send us all that last line ......
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-04-24 19:03
ME TOO!!!!!! ME TOO!!!!! PM ME TOO!!!!! I NEED TO KNOW!!!!!
Don't You guys get the email topic replies?
Rich, I know & agree but I ain't tellin'. :005: That's up to you.
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wonder if they ever got it back together :003:
Probably. In those days no TV or malls. Only potential distraction was girls..and back then...they would sit around and watch or go into a house together and sit and gossip. Much fewer distractions then.
(I'm being optimistic... :003: )
Can't get out to the shop until after lunch, so I will post two batches today.
Once I get back from under the dash of my Shoebox, I might be into getting some more out.
I love the Union Milk and the Medicine Hat Garage photos!
The 57 looks to be a Meteor Niagara and the pickup could be a Mercury M-100, hard to tell. Great pics!
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Great Photos, thanks. The Lethbridge photo is so very clear.
Quote from: fdlrc on 2020-04-25 18:04
Great Photos, thanks. The Lethbridge photo is so very clear.
I'm enjoying the pics also, but what I can't understand is why I can click on and enlarge some photos, but not others ??
I think if you just click on the pic, some lf them will pop up in a separate format so you can enlarge them...others won't. I have no idea why it does that. I have tried to figure it out but no luck. I have noticed that on some other photos too.
BUT...I also found that if you click on the link below the pics...they always open up in the separate viewer, and then of course you can enlarge them. that is the best answer I have for now. If I can ever figure out the answer I will post a note.
Sorry...but that's the best I got now.
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-04-25 22:52.... I can't understand is why I can click on and enlarge some photos, but not others ?
I see that the smaller pix you posted on the 21st in post
#3371 oops, #3771 were originally .png types. You should be able to see that if you right click on the thumbnail pix before opening them in this thread & select 'View Image Info'. Although they do show up as a .jpg type here I am guessing that in order for the pix to show up here this site automatically changes them from a .png type to a .jpg type.
So if you change those pix from a .png & save them as a .jpg that might work. It often depends on what photo program you are using or more specifically what file types the program is set to handle.
What photo program are you using?
EDIT: Below is your Chinook pic info from post #3771
Ford Rouge Plant..
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Quote from: Tom S on 2020-04-26 00:24
I see that the smaller pix you posted on the 21st in post #3371 oops, #3771 were originally .png types. You should be able to see that if you right click on the thumbnail pix before opening them in this thread & select 'View Image Info'. Although they do show up as a .jpg type here I am guessing that in order for the pix to show up here this site automatically changes them from a .png type to a .jpg type.
So if you change those pix from a .png & save them as a .jpg that might work. It often depends on what photo program you are using or more specifically what file types the program is set to handle.
What photo program are you using?
Ok, Thanks. Last night before I was ready to shut my computer off, one of the pics appeared in a large enough format on my screen....Surprise ! Some sites I post on accept .jpg and .png pics, but on others I have to convert the .png to .jpg I original thought all his pics were .jpg, but I'll use your method if they don't enlarge. Thanks again for the info!
EDIT: Below is your Chinook pic info from post #3771
Fond memories
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Oh Joe...that is a sad pic... :'(
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-04-26 11:50
Oh Joe...that is a sad pic... :'(
Agreed, but figured I needed to mix it up a bit.
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OK, big or small, enjoy them all.
Love the pics...but then I love the history pics! Thanx for sharing! :003:
Site is being difficult today, not letting me add any more.
Will only let me do one at a time.
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#4
Pic 3849...where was that? Any idea what language the building has on it? Looks like a Slavic language of some sort.
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-04-26 21:04
Site is being difficult today, not letting me add any more.
Your first two pics are too big added together. 4kb max total per post
My guess would be Ukrainian, there is still a large Ukrainian population there. In the early part of the last century, the Canadian Pacific Railway was given 25,000,000 acres of land beside the rail line they built across the country. They would give immigrants/refugees (including my Grandparents) very cheap boat passage and a chance to buy land near the rail line on a long term repayment plan.
I Googled this -
The CPR had built a railway that operated mostly in the wilderness. The usefulness of the prairies was questionable in the minds of many. The thinking prevailed that the prairies had great potential. Under the initial contract with the Canadian government to build the railway, the CPR was granted 25 million acres (100,000 km2). Proving already to be a very resourceful organization, Canadian Pacific began an intense campaign to bring immigrants to Canada. Canadian Pacific agents operated in many overseas locations. Immigrants were often sold a package that included passage on a CP ship, travel on a CP train and land sold by the CP railway. Land was priced at $2.50 an acre and up but required cultivation.[30] To transport immigrants, Canadian Pacific developed a fleet of over a thousand Colonist cars, low-budget sleeper cars designed to transport immigrant families from eastern Canadian seaports to the west.
WOW! Great background. Thanks for filling in the info. :003:
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-04-26 07:30Ok, Thanks. Last night before I was ready to shut my computer off, one of the pics appeared in a large enough format on my screen....Surprise ! Some sites I post on accept .jpg and .png pics, but on others I have to convert the .png to .jpg I original thought all his pics were .jpg, but I'll use your method if they don't enlarge. Thanks again for the info!
Dave, again what photo program are you using to enlarge or reduce the size of your pix?
You might take a look at this post.
http://57fordsforever.com/smf/index.php?topic=7304.msg67227#msg67227
If you go for that free program be sure to pick the site that will download it &
all the plugins.
1952 Ford Convertible, the ?Galpin Custom?
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Quote from: Tom S on 2020-04-27 02:11
Dave, again what photo program are you using to enlarge or reduce the size of your pix?
You might take a look at this post.
http://57fordsforever.com/smf/index.php?topic=7304.msg67227#msg67227
If you go for that free program be sure to pick the site that will download it & all the plugins.
I'm using PAINT, and it must have been my computer that was "slow" at that time, because I can now enlarge any of his pics, so I'm all set, thanks.
TAXICABS
Unknown location to me
I am going to guess somewhere in one of the New England states that has lots of those covered bridges...perhaps New Hampshire? Just guessing...
Joe
#3858. I'll take two of those if you please.
Can you deliver them?
Jay
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-04-27 08:49
I am going to guess somewhere in one of the New England states that has lots of those covered bridges...perhaps New Hampshire? Just guessing...
They were still around up in NH about 20 -25 years ago when we drove our 34 Ford 2 dr sedan and sometimes our 34 Ford convertible up to the big Lake George NY car show. Unfortunately we never got to drive the 57 Ford custom there.
Albany, Oregon
https://bridgehunter.com/or/linn/bryant-park-covered/
Stopped there a couple years ago, they have a authentic 50's auto parts store there, all the stock behind a 7-foot counter, poor lights, mix match of fan belts all on three pegs, it was a beauty.
WOW! Really? I have been to Albany more than a few times, and never knew that bridge was there. Thanks!
That one is downtown, Professor Google says there are eight.
https://albanyvisitors.com/history/covered-bridges/
The Stony Plain picture is not a Ford dealership but found it interesting that it was an Indian dealer. I have a picture coming of a small town in northern Manitoba and there is a motorcycle riding down the street. Tough guys to be riding those rodes.
Guess I didn't see much of Albany! LOL!!!
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-04-27 07:40
I'm using PAINT, and it must have been my computer that was "slow" at that time, because I can now enlarge any of his pics, so I'm all set, thanks.
You also have this option for posting, which is what I use:
http://57fordsforever.com/smf/index.php?topic=7624.0
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2020-04-27 09:07
Joe
#3858. I'll take two of those if you please.
Can you deliver them?
Jay
Lol, I'd be happy with one. :003:
One happy Ford family...
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I would be happy to own one of those three..let alone all three of them! :003:
Don't ask, I really have no clue....
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As the father of a daughter...I don't WANT to know. (although she is married now and 44...) But I can tell you..there is NO WAY she'd have dated that guy!
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-04-27 07:40I'm using PAINT, and it must have been my computer that was "slow" at that time, because I can now enlarge any of his pics, so I'm all set, thanks.
Yikes! You can't do much with paint. About all I use that for is adding text to pix sometimes although the very simple photoshop like program I use can do it better. Yeah, I like to mess with pix ... a lot! :002:
Did you read my post here?
http://57fordsforever.com/smf/index.php?topic=7304.msg67227#msg67227
Enlarging pix with Paint also increases the file size so you might end up with file sizes that won't let you post more than one pic per post here.
A lot of pix I get from friends are taken with cell phones are huge & have huge file sizes.
Using IrfanView I can keep a very large pic size even while greatly reducing the file size and a lot of other very useful things that Paint can't do.
It is very easy to use & using pix to show some steps I could walk you thru it. Considering all the pix that you post here you might be pretty happy with it or one of the programs that Joe showed you.
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-04-27 14:29
You also have this option for posting, which is what I use:
http://57fordsforever.com/smf/index.php?topic=7624.0
Ok, Thanks Joe
Quote from: Tom S on 2020-04-28 00:57
Yikes! You can't do much with paint. About all I use that for is adding text to pix sometimes although the very simple photoshop like program I use can do it better. Yeah, I like to mess with pix ... a lot! :002:
Did you read my post here?
http://57fordsforever.com/smf/index.php?topic=7304.msg67227#msg67227
Enlarging pix with Paint also increases the file size so you might end up with file sizes that won't let you post more than one pic per post here.
A lot of pix I get from friends are taken with cell phones are huge & have huge file sizes.
Using IrfanView I can keep a very large pic size even while greatly reducing the file size and a lot of other very useful things that Paint can't do.
It is very easy to use & using pix to show some steps I could walk you thru it. Considering all the pix that you post here you might be pretty happy with it or one of the programs that Joe showed you.
I'll try that one. My wife likes Paint for some reason and is not keen on changing things, so I'll have to tread lightly and show her what might be done better ...and keep the peace.. Thanks Tom
Nothing Special ??.
Looks like it was somewhat "special". :006:
Vintage Ford signs on the buildings.
Took the Quaker State tombstone and painted over it.
So that was a tour of the province of Alberta. British Columbia is next on the list.
Hope you are enjoying them.
Enjoying? Beyond that. Makes me wish I had spent more time up there over the last 45 years (especially when it was easier for us to travel back and forth between our 2 countries) and done some driving around the back roads and villages.
Thanks! :006:
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Quote from: hemidave on 2020-04-28 07:19I'll try that one. My wife likes Paint for some reason and is not keen on changing things, so I'll have to tread lightly and show her what might be done better ...and keep the peace.. Thanks Tom
You will still have Paint. IrfanView will also be your photo storage program.
My first tip is to set it so that the the column shown on the left side of this pic with all the folders shows up. Makes it much easier to find the pix that you have stored. It's not necessary to make new folders but I've made a lot of different folders for different subjects since I have so many pix.
Play around with it a bit & I'll try to help you with your questions. You could send me PMs so that I don't keep cluttering up this thread. We could swap Email addys if you want.
Building Lincolns? Wixom Assembly, 1958
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Quote from: Tom S on 2020-04-28 19:21
You will still have Paint. IrfanView will also be your photo storage program.
My first tip is to set it so that the the column shown on the left side of this pic with all the folders shows up. Makes it much easier to find the pix that you have stored. It's not necessary to make new folders but I've made a lot of different folders for different subjects since I have so many pix.
Play around with it a bit & I'll try to help you with your questions. You could send me PMs so that I don't keep cluttering up this thread. We could swap Email addys if you want.
Sounds good, I'll set it up tomorrow and PM you, Thanks !
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-04-28 22:47Sounds good, I'll set it up tomorrow and PM you, Thanks !
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41 Zephyr
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'49
Big day today! 4/29 day!
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Oh that is such a big beautiful baby!
OK, we will now move into British Columbia.
Geese.........check out that engine lift bracket! That's some major engineering.
Remove the Thermactor pump and the extra plumbing, and it would be perfect. I'd bet the cost of those correct number smog parts are very costly for the restorer's today.
At the end of the street in Hope is where Sylvester Stalone got kicked out of town in First Blood.
(Cliff Claven is alive.)
Quote from: John Palmer on 2020-04-29 11:49
Geese.........check out that engine lift bracket! That's some major engineering.
Remove the Thermactor pump and the extra plumbing, and it would be perfect. I'd bet the cost of those correct number smog parts are very costly for the restorer's today.
Anything unique to a Boss 429 engine or car is insanely expensive. You need pretty deep pockets to restore one to original.
Wasn't Imperial what we now know as Esso at one time?
Great pics! Thanks! :002:
Correct - was Imperial, then Imperial Esso, then Esso. There were also two Exxon stations in Canada, one here in Abbotsford and one on the east coast. After the Valdez issue, they disappeared.
The B-A signs were for British American. In younger years I worked at my father's B/A station, regular was called 88, premium was 98.
To this day my brother's and I still use it as one of our secret code lines.
I remember 98 octane! Ran it in my white '57...it was a street return car from having been a race car (1/4 mile) Tried running mid-grade in it (I think it was around 92)...ran like an old woman trying to hurry across the street...worse on the regular. so I had to spend THIRTY CENTS a gallon or fuel! Oh the horror of it all! LOL!!!
If memory also serves...isn't EXXON just the American version of Esso? Both originally of the Imperial, then Humble lines? Something rattling around in my head says they were all under the same umbrella. Maybe not...but it's been so man years, and oh so many mergers...LOL!!!
Esso was Standard Oil (S. O. ) and Enco was Energy Company (En Co ) . In 1972 Exxon was unveiled as the new brand name for all former Enco and Esso Stations.
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Joe
It was nice to see you yesterday. I hope that everything is OK.
Just think about those two kids on the roof of that 58 4dr and washing it. Those roofs cave in real easy. Maybe the 58 roofs were stronger with the ribs in it. Jay
Thanks Joe...that is kind of what I remember...you just sharpened the picture a bit.
Those kids sure couldn't get up on the roof of one roof today's cars and do that...there would be a bowl in the roof in no time!
Nice to see you also Jay and thank you very much for going out of your way to let me borrow the puller, and as always, thanks for the replies everyone.
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Back in the late 60's I ran an 11.1 compression Y block and only used Phillips 66 Flite Fuel. and then came the 70's :005:
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Good Morning and enjoy.
Ah yes...I remember the days of .$0.20 gas...and gas price wars!
Check out the meat on the rear tires of that New Hazelton pic! Serious treads there!
1959 Back there.
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Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-04-30 10:43
1959 Back there.
Columbia street still looks the same after 60 years. Kind of a seedy area back then and probably still is.
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Kinda "CHEEKY".....
A scene from the movie "TARANTULA"
I am doing some homework on the 1952 F1 sitting on the street in Osoyoos. I am pretty sure the original owner's son still has it.
Film at 11.
Terry
Her legs come together to make a perfect ^ss of themselves to say the least! :booty:
That would be something if he still had that truck after all these years!
Penticton B.C.
Not 100% sure on this one...
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Sorta looks like someone pulled out in front of the other...don't see evidence of an intersection...so no running a stoplight or sign. I will give an educated guess...the sedan pulled out of what appears to be a service station into the path of a...shall we say..."rapidly motoring" street rod. Both look like total losses.
The Hot Rod is a 32 Ford sdn. the other sedan is either a 35 or 36 Ford, I am guessing a 35, according to the steeper slant on the bumper end and 16" wire wheel. It appears as if all of the grill and hood has been ripped of the car. Not an accident you would want to have in one of those tin cans without belts, safety door latches and laminated glass. it appears as if the 32 had a laminated windshield though, maybe it's just the flashlight. that looks like zero tire tread left on the hot rod front....
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Now that is a sweet pic !
I never observed that upper 300 chrome trim on the backlite. It appears to be 'hooded' or is this some kind of accessory 'ventshade' type of add on ? Maybe down in LA they can make good use of some sunshade now and then ? Lynn, Eugene ? What is your opinon.
the 53 Mercury has them on the door glass.
Isn't that what the '57 Fairlanes have DJ?
The rusted in half air 300 I parted out had that same back window treatment.
That car rusted the weirdest way! The hood was good, the front splash pan is perfect, the nose piece was perfect, the doors were perfect, the trunk lid was perfect but the front fenders were totally missing in the head light area, the rockers and door hinge structure was gone, the frame rusted in half at the B pillar area. Tinted windows all around with the Ford etching, none of them de-laminated. Paint color (or lack of) lead me to believe the parts were original to the car. Just didn't make sense how it fell apart.....
Nice '57
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-05-02 05:02
Now that is a sweet pic !
I never observed that upper 300 chrome trim on the backlite. It appears to be 'hooded' or is this some kind of accessory 'ventshade' type of add on ? Maybe down in LA they can make good use of some sunshade now and then ? Lynn, Eugene ? What is your opinon.
the 53 Mercury has them on the door glass.
Not sure what your looking at that would be different. The trim over the back glass is sorta hooded.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-05-02 05:02
Now that is a sweet pic !
I never observed that upper 300 chrome trim on the backlite. It appears to be 'hooded' or is this some kind of accessory 'ventshade' type of add on ? Maybe down in LA they can make good use of some sunshade now and then ? Lynn, Eugene ? What is your opinon.
the 53 Mercury has them on the door glass.
It's original to the car. My Custom has it, all 57's should have it.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-05-02 03:49
The Hot Rod is a 32 Ford sdn. the other sedan is either a 35 or 36 Ford, I am guessing a 35, according to the steeper slant on the bumper end and 16" wire wheel. It appears as if all of the grill and hood has been ripped of the car. Not an accident you would want to have in one of those tin cans without belts, safety door latches and laminated glass. it appears as if the 32 had a laminated windshield though, maybe it's just the flashlight. that looks like zero tire tread left on the hot rod front....
Guenter
I believe that you are correct about the sedan on it's side. The 36 to 39 wheels are somewhat similar to Volkswagen with their wide bolt pattern. In 1940 they went back to the 5 X 5 1/2" bolt pattern
Cobra Joe has the wide bolt pattern on his beautiful all steel brand new 39 Ford coupe.
true, Jay ! that would make it a 35 !
thx guys for clueing me in on the 300 rear glass trim. I honestly never observed that neat detail.
Some 8's and 9's.
Not many 46/47 panel deliveries made. I prefer the Mercury grille on the Telephone company pickup myself.
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I sold a lot of that Royal Triton in my gas station days!
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Great pic ! in my mind the Falcon is one of Fords greatest cars ever built ! the aerodynamics, unibody and economy little 144cui six combined with that compact size body would even make it a winner in todays world. I managed to get over 30mpg from my 62 Comet.
Betty
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-05-03 06:33
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It's hard to believe that introduction photo is 60 years old. Where did the time go? You pay more now for a set of nice wheels and tires, than that car sold for in 1960. In just a couple of years, that utility car would be re-skinned into a Shelby GT 350.
As car guys...........we lived during the most exciting era.
So true on both points John.... :sad3:
These are all in Northern British Columbia.
We had fish and chips from that fish shack this week.
That is it for the tour of British Columbia, working on some beauties from farther east.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-05-02 05:02
Now that is a sweet pic !
I never observed that upper 300 chrome trim on the backlite. It appears to be 'hooded' or is this some kind of accessory 'ventshade' type of add on ? Maybe down in LA they can make good use of some sunshade now and then ? Lynn, Eugene ? What is your opinon.
the 53 Mercury has them on the door glass.
Guenter
I have one of those nice ss strips on the back of my old plain Jane 57. I took it out today for a drive along Savery Aveue.
For those who don't know, It's the first divided highway in the US.
Sent you a picture of the back strip from (my slow motion) tablet You might get it in a couple of days. Jay
Cobra Joe are you familiar with Savery Ave? You have to drive past it every time that you come to see me. JA
It sounds familiar...... :003:
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I think you might know the photographer.
Sorry to have to tell you this Joe. You haven't been paying your SA toll. It's supposed to be placed in my mail box when you drive through. HaHA
Your 57 always look nice. I need to get away from here for a while so I can see your new 39.
I'll take a ride by there when we get some good weather, unless you want to come up this way?
Horatio Ford's customized Ford Coupe, complete with "doggy door" for the pack of beagles
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Jay&Joe, Take care ! I heard that those bad overseas Euro guys are everywhere, and one moment you leave your car to take photograps, it will be gone a second later, never to be seen again. This especially holds true for the dark pine woods of Savery Ave ! I would never dare to walk those woods !
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Jay thanx for sending the pic of that upper backlite trim on the Custom. I really never realized that detail before. That is a sweet little touch !
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'57
1939 Clark Gable in Lincoln-Zephyr.
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Manitoba
I liked the Expert Air Service on the door of that Model A.
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1950 Lincoln Coupe
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that pic is so clean and crisp, it looks as if it has been taken YESTERDAY, not 70 yrs ago... can't believe it.
Yes, agreed. Obviously not taken with a 35mm camera.
First time in a very long time I've seen a Lincoln version.....usually it's the Mercuries, and also I can't remember when or if I've seen a high quality pic of one that wasn't a Kustom. They are one of my favorite customized cars, but it's easy to forget how beautiful they can be just totally stock.
I wonder if they're were any differences in the sheetmetal Lincoln to Mercury??
Nice ragtop
I believe the bodyshell is identical, but the Lincoln frontend is longer, it also has a different wheelbase.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-05-05 07:43
I wonder if they're were any differences in the sheetmetal Lincoln to Mercury??
Photo was probably a promotional shot for advertising, which means in those days would have been shot with a 4x4 camera with the plate film. They were tri-pod mounted cameras. My grandfather had one...took great pics...but they were laborious to use.
And I just got some clues from the house that tell me it's not an old pic. Look at the white screen door. They didn't have those in the 50's. That door looks like the Larson door we put on just a few years ago.
Looks like a wooden framed screen door...so it good be an old pic.
I will take on of those coupes.
1958 Taxi
Me too! One of the coupes and the dairy delivery truck too!
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wow.... I wonder if Johnny Cool was allowed to take his Daddy's brandnew 58 Linc Vert out to town Saturday evening....that oughta be sumthin ! :003:
Rich, that must be an old pic. The women don't have tatoos up their neck... :003:
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-05-05 11:37
And I just got some clues from the house that tell me it's not an old pic. Look at the white screen door. They didn't have those in the 50's. That door looks like the Larson door we put on just a few years ago.
1938 Ford COE Truck
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I would take that truck..complete with it's load! :003:
If it said Jack Daniels on the side, I'd be more interested. :003:
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I'll take that one too...does she come with? :006:
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Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-05-05 19:18
I'll take that one too...does she come with? :006:
I'm on my 2nd marriage, so....my guess is that she is more expensive than truck.
Just sayin'
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-05-05 19:18
I'll take that one too...does she come with? :006:
I'm out, have enough trouble with one, not sure what I would do with two!
Suckin' gas and haulin' ass
The popular Ford is a favourite.
T
Time line photos of the Ford store in St. Rose du Lac.
Wednesday bonus, two more to finish off Manitoba.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-05-06 05:20
I'm on my 2nd marriage, so....my guess is that she is more expensive than truck.
Just sayin'
Yea...probably. Still on my first...waited 20 years to do it...
Those are some great pics of Manitoba. Thanks for all the sharing. A LOT of "T's" in those pics! :002:
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Internet isolation finds.
"Lets roll"
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ford factory pic
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Ford factory pic
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Factory Ford Pic
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Ford Factory pic
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Great pics Jeff ^^^
Much thanks to ALL you guys for posting these pics. I'm enjoying all of them.
Jeff........we need an update on your two projects!! I thought that second pic you posted might have been one of yours.
Jeff, where did you get these super interesting and HQ 57 factory line pics ??? WOW !
Do you know the location of the plant ?
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Jeff, just asking. Sometimes , in those moments thinking about another future project, don't you whish you had a hotrod EXACTLY like that? Maybe not exactly but the same, the very same ?
A blast from the past, wouldn't that be something, no? :003:
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2020-05-07 07:26
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Joe, I'll take the Sunliner...and her! ^^^
More internet gatherings.. factory shot.....
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a friends 500...
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factory shot
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friends coupe
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The King.
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Personal shot
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Personal shot
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Personal shot
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The Great Karol Miller....Bonneville.
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Old 55 of mine(new owner now)
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A road trip i was on....and we got pulled over by New Jersey's finest.... "Honest, this thing can't go 90!"
true story
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Parts car I used...and no. it could not be saved.... heck.. couldn't give it away.
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Have a great day.
Jeff in reguard to #4020, it kind of gets me when I see a 57 bird look like that. I sold my T Birds last spring, got very good money for them, however there are some days I get a little sellers remorse, than I think about how I had to crawl in and fall out of the 57. It wasn't to bad with out a top on it, and once I was inside what a kick in the butt to drive. The man that bought the 57 looks older than me, and I told my wife as soon as the new wears off he's going to hate it, they are a young mans ride. It's to hard for us old guys to get in and out of.
I've never owned one Alvin or even been in one for a spin.. but I have heard the same thing from many people....
First gen Thunderbirds are really cool cars. I worked in a really old Ford Lincoln Mercury dealership with several of the 'family' owning vintage vehicles. I did maintenance on one of those birds with 312 w/2x4 and FOM. I was taken by how difficult it was to get in and out of it, how uncomfortable it was once in, and how it rode like an old truck. I would still over look its short comings and drive it anywhere.
Great pics Jeff! Always loved the old factory shots, and the "E" & "F" code black customs are just incredible.
I always liked the looks of an early T-Bird.
But learned to HATE them after I smashed my left thumb in the door jamb while closing the driver door. I guess you need to quickly learn they do not have a normal vent window frame to grab, like on a 57 full size car.
All I remember is OUCH!
My friend had a green 56 Bird and I remember fondly riding shotgun. seating is pretty much on the floor and the backrest is pretty steep, and those A pillars... but once in the car it is awesome. so much lower seating than lall the average other cars. it is way cool. I can still remember the rattling noise of his wire wheel imitation wheel covers....haha.... :003: They are beautiful, especially the 2 seater years, and also the bullet and squarebirds. Drove a 64.it had power everything. Quite a luxury car ! nearly bought a 390 bulletbird a few yrs ago. sweet, sweet luxury cars !
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1960 Fairlane 500
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'59
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Anybody know what that odd device attached to the heater hoses is?
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2020-05-08 07:51
A road trip i was on....and we got pulled over by New Jersey's finest.... "Honest, this thing can't go 90!"
true story
Can't go 90? Did he hand you a 'performance award' anyway?
Thought for sure that I was gonna get busted for something here.
Quote from: Tom S on 2020-05-09 09:22
Anybody know what that odd device attached to the heater hoses is?
Looks like a oil to water exchanger, just a guess. I have never seen one.
Quote from: lalessi1 on 2020-05-09 10:08Looks like a oil to water exchanger, just a guess. I have never seen one.
I was thinking along those same lines. Never seen anything quite like it either.
Quote from: Tom S on 2020-05-09 09:22
Anybody know what that odd device attached to the heater hoses is?
The dealership that I worked at 1965 to 71 worked on lots of Arizona Highway Petrol cars. Since it was in the very hot desert Ford used the cars and the dealership to test various ideas to overcome special applications.
I saw many different things on those cars. The shorty high performance cast headers, the high performance air cleaners like on this photo. They tried many different radiator/shroud/expansion tank combinations to over come boil over after a long highspeed pursuit in 120 degree desert weather. I saw several different vented hoods tried to vent out the hot air and allow cool air to easily enter. Most of their issues was when the engine returned to idle "after a long pursuit".
The engine in the photo looks very much like a high performance police special engine. Back in the day they had different versions depending on the climates they would be used in. They used solid lifters, and many of the high performance (they called it Total Performance) 406/427 parts, but they still used a vacuum advance distributor in the police engines. I think it's a heat exchanger off of a Ford boat engine that was used for either oil heating, or extra engine cooling. I don't think it's actually a Ford Marine engine because they used mechanical distributors, at least on the engines I've seen.
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OH MY! Why? Poor car! Coulda used some other piece of scrap...OUCH! bawl
Have passed by that Edsel Dozer many times. Santa Rosa, New Mexico. Just drove by it last Sunday! It's on the I40 business loop in front of the car museum, across the street from Bozo's garage and hot rod shop.Yeah, I did another roadtrip...1002 miles....big loop around New Mexico (in my dd).
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Nice! That is the perfect tow and go set-up! :burnout:
" It came from Outer Space " scene
It was on a couple weeks ago on TCM. The utility worker standing below talking was Russell Johnson, the professor from Gilligan's island.
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OK, here is Saskatchewan. The non-Ford I will post on the Randem picture site.
Rare Mercury flat deck.
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YESSSSSSS ! :004:
is that our member Kai's wagon again?
no it's not. just dug through my archives. Kais has similar og paint and patina, but has twotone paint. the one above appears to be solid inca Gold or pretty faded Colonial white ? can't really say with the Photo filter.
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April 1961
Dominion Motors, once the largest in Canada.
Would like to find that old Foam Lake Motors building to pick.
Is Dominion out of business now? Or just been eclipsed by another as the largest?
They are a faded memory. There were stores in Vancouver, Winnipeg and I think Toronto. I remember the Vancouver store, was right downtown, no car lot, just building.
UGH! Progress is inevitable I suppose...but not always pleasant.
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I was thinking the same ! That Dominion Vancouver corner gas station is (was) just awesome !!!
the shopping mall now is another hideous lookalike money pit. But- at least they saved the original building and even the upper window frames and all seem to have been retained. that is nice !
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-05-12 13:33
UGH! Progress is inevitable I suppose...but not always pleasant.
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Valve job on the steps
Early Mercury dealer.
Dominion Motors in Downtown Vancouver switched from a Ford to a General Motors franchise a few years before they closed their doors. I recently retired from a Toyota dealership that was the last new car dealership in the Vancouver downtown core. When 1 bedroom condos sell for over a million dollars, hard to imagine what a piece of property the size of a car dealership would be worth. Most of the downtown gas stations have been sold in recent years, often for over 20 million each!
Imagine what that old gas pump and air station would be worth today! Oh yea!
I had a friend who's dad owned a service station in Lacey. when he retired he sold the building and land back to Texaco for a healthy chunk. (No where near the 20 million, but still...a good amount) It allowed him to not have any money worries all the way up to his death some 35 years later...at 92+.
I guess the real money in owning one of those places is not in the business...but in the sale of the dirt it sits on.
As for gas stations inside cities...if you run out of gas within the city limits of most cities...you are in deep doo-doo. Even downtown Olympia WA doesn't have any gas stations within the downtown core anymore. And you could put the entire downtown core of Olympia inside Vancouver B.C. and not even notice it. I ALWAYS make sure I have at least 1/2 - 3/4 of a tank before venturing into any major city or even medium size one if I have never been in them before.
Vancouver city council has a disdain for anything with four wheels and has made it their number one priority to discourage cars in the city. Everything from shutting down lanes to make room for bicycles to removing a lot street parking. I have a feeling once this CV-19 thing is over with city council being broke from not collecting taxes will bring in vehicle pricing if you want to park or drive in the city. I think it's time for a move out of this mess.
Sounds a lot like Seattle. they have been doing the same thing for several years...and discussing the pay to park thing being expanded to neighborhoods.
Two weeks ago I saw an article that they have now created a car free zone in the city where the ONLY cars allowed will be those of residents, and they are being encouraged (read shamed into) getting rid of them. Delivery trucks and such will be allowed as well.
And thus...you will see why I am leaving the state and moving to Branson. We even considered moving to Calgary at one time...but decided not to. I am so done with the leftist socialism garbage.
Okay...off the box now before Rich kicks it out from under me! :006:
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What a pair of gorgeous ladies! :003:
Hugh, go check the classfieds, I posted something for you in for sale.
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At the dam
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Did you happen to notice that today you have 1957 posts?
Jay
Good eye Jay.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-05-14 03:08
Hugh, go check the classfieds, I posted something for you in for sale.
Oh man...nice cars both. Might have to go by there and check out the '57 when I go into town today. Now...if I could jut win the LOTTO!
Would like that Ford, Lincoln, Meteor sign.
Or the Scrap Rubber sign in Melville.
Lincoln - Ford - Fordson sign in Moose Jaw is also a keeper, I have never seen that combination before.
I found this photo I took on a trip to Cuba 3 years ago thought I'd share..
My brother-in-law lies to collect old signs. Now that he has been retired for 6-7 years...he has quite a slick collection.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-05-14 03:08
Hugh, go check the classfieds, I posted something for you in for sale.
Stopped by there today...checked out the Country Squire. Shot some more pics and got some history. As everyone knows from my impressions on other cars we have seen over the last few months, I can be a bit critical of price. I would say this one is a decent price. If I had the money to spend, or wasn't trying to move 2000 miles across the country, I would have probably bought it.
I do think the engine compartment could be a bit cleaner for a car for sale, but everything appeared decent, no sign of oil leaks up top. Doors close soundly, rear tailgate closes firmly and authoritatively. No apparent oil leaks on floor either. Did not fire it up as it was inside the museum. Museum manager was with me, allowed me inside the ropes and to open and close doors, tail and hood.
If ANYONE is looking to buy another or for you lurkers a first '57 Ford...this one would be good to go with. Has 5-speed stick and clean interior. I would be willing to do an in-depth inspection if anyone wants to buy it. I will be in town through June 5th-6th at least.
I took some pics...I will post them over on Joe's Random Pics thread so as not to distract the purpose of this one. Also shot some pics of the outside of the building.
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A happy family
Joe! THAT is a cool pic!
Dave..sure couldn't set kids on a car hood of today's rides...they'd leave a "memory" wrinkle in the hood!
My Custom 300 was built on September 4, Edsel introduction day.
Grab a coffee, here is my story when I stopped in Pense, Saskatchewan. About 30 years ago I was making a trip across Canada, it was the first of November and the first Arctic storm had hit. I had driven over 800 miles from Thunder Bay, it was minus 45 Fahrenheit and I was low on fuel. Pulled up to the Pense Hotel, no front desk so I had to go in the bar, the bartender said they had 2 rooms, I gave him my VISA card and he said cash only. I asked if the bulk station had diesel fuel and he did not know. I made the decision to keep driving, 135 miles later I pulled into Swift Current after 20 hours on the road, it was now minus 48 Fahrenheit, I was very cold, hungry and super low of fuel but I got a room. I emptied my pockets and found I still had the room key from Pense. In all my travels I have never seen a joint with Room #1. I still have the tag, it is on my 1951 Mercury grain truck that I bought in Saskatchewan.
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-05-15 11:40
My Custom 300 was built on September 4, Edsel introduction day.
Nice ride!
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-05-15 11:40
My Custom 300 was built on September 4, Edsel introduction day.
Absolutely Beautiful!!!!
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' 53s
Built the first day of production. Paint combo was deleted in August, not sure why, not all that offensive given color trends at that time.
Anyone know about this one?
Quote from: Ford Blue blood on 2020-05-16 07:21
Built the first day of production. Paint combo was deleted in August, not sure why, not all that offensive given color trends at that time.
I kind of like the paint scheme! A subtle color matching.
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My first '68 fastback, circa 1979-1980; full chassis, full roll cage, narrowed 9", Koni Coilovers, tubbed, 13"-31' slicks sitting under the fender wells, built 351C. top loader 4 speed....
First car I ever built, Man, I really need to stop selling $hit....
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LOL!!! You're gonna hate me...I think in my life I MIGHT...maybe...sold 10 of my cars. Had 2 stolen, still have my 2nd car and 3rd car (both 57 Couriers) and my 1st and 4th Mustangs. 1st car was stolen, 3rd '57 (2 door sedan) stolen.
Here is my 1967, 390, C6, radio delete.
Cost me $10.00.
Bought from Mom? Dad? Brother? Sister? :005:
One ticket!
DAMN! I have bought hundreds of dollars worth for various fund raisers over the years...annually for the Powell County Museum in Deer Lodge Montana in particular. Never won diddly squat! :dontknow: Mustangs...T-Birds...absolutely no luck.
You still have it? (I hope?)
You guys are right, I hate all of you. :004:
'52s
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2019 Good Guys Show Puyallup WA...
R.I.P. "Eddie"
RIP
....and only 76
Hey Lumpy, what're going to tell your old man? Quit being a wise guy Eddie.
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Quote from: hemidave on 2020-05-18 16:39
R.I.P. "Eddie"
Did I miss some news today? Is Eddy gone? I liked Eddie. I especially liked the actor...as he went on to be an officer with LAPD did motors for 15 years I believe. If Eddie is gone...does that mean we are all getting old(er) too? GULP!
Not the best decision to have a Ford big truck division dealer in downtown.
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Well maybe back that far...wasn't so bad. I can remember when Vancouver was still driveable...Or Seattle...or San Antono..or Dall...well you get the idea.
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A few wagons
I don't remember George Black at either of those addresses, only the Lougheed Highway store.
This is how my father would send my brothers and me to bring trucks out from Oakville, Ontario.
My brothers were in the 18 - 20 year old range here, second load in the background.
I did my first solo trip back when I was 16, had my license for three months, 2,700 Miles. Still playing with trucks.
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WOW! Can you imagine the grief they would take today for pulling in to the creek to was their car? And hope he doesn't step back to admire the finished product! Could be a major OOPs!
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A friend of mine used '57 Ford driveshafts from his header mufflers out to the rear for a fantastic sound !
Did the oem exhaust hug the frame like that??? and are those the almost never talked about resonators that were added to the back end of the exhaust. I'm still not sure what resonators do. I've heard some say they were to add additional "quiet" to the exhaust, but I remember as a kid we use to talk of them adding a little deep rumble, as the name would apply. Does anybody use them nowadays?
I had a 1958 Edsel wagon and the exhaust was the same as the photo. Only difference was it was single exhaust on the left side. I have a friend who owned a Midas muffler who had all the bending cards for older cars. He would take a stick of muffler tube and a felt pen, follow the bending card angles and like magic the exhaust pipe would hug the frame just like the photo.
My Courier that I am working on now had only resonators on it...no mufflers. I did it on purpose. Had a nice mellow rumble to it if I was "polite" with the gas pedal, but, if I stood on it could get real authoritative real quick. That was with a 352 in it. I'd use them again.
I built some fenderwell exit headers for my '56 with an FE. I used the canisters from the replaceable oil filters, as collectors.
It seems funny now what we did in the 60's because we were Hot Rodding with no money. Now, I would only consider using V-Band clamps, Stainless tubing, ceramic coating, etc. I think I had less money in the entire car (a nice car) than the parts required to build an exhaust system today.
Quote from: John Palmer on 2020-05-20 11:47
I built some fenderwell exit headers for my '56 with an FE. I used the canisters from the replaceable oil filters, as collectors.
It seems funny now what we did in the 60's because we were Hot Rodding with no money. Now, I would only consider using V-Band clamps, Stainless tubing, ceramic coating, etc. I think I had less money in the entire car (a nice car) than the parts required to build an exhaust system today.
Would that mean we are getting more particular? More sophisticated? Or just less innovative? LOL!!! Or perhaps...that we are more willing to spend money now...that we didn't have then!
^^No, I think we just overthink everything now.. :002:
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HUH?What?NAH! :003:
Hey you guys !
You should never put rocks in a hubcap. Always do three hub caps, after the third stop they will take all four caps off. We used to have a RCMP officer who would park his car at the gas station, walk down the three blocks of Main Street and check doors. We would do his caps and then go to the other end of Main to watch him come down and stop, take one cap off and unload the rocks, then drive about 100 feet repeat, drive another 100 feet and take the last two off.
We would sit on this hill to watch him coming towards us.
Oh to have those days back.
I just want to know which one of those urchins was Dave! :003:
Those were good days to be sure. Bet part was if you were caught, it usually meant some sever punishment like washing the patrol car or some other menial task.
Today...poor kids get hauled off to jail, booked, then have to go before a judge. Society has lost it's sense of humor.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-05-21 10:26
I just want to know which one of those urchins was Dave! :003:
Those were good days to be sure. Bet part was if you were caught, it usually meant some sever punishment like washing the patrol car or some other menial task.
Today...poor kids get hauled off to jail, booked, then have to go before a judge. Society has lost it's sense of humor.
Funny, I find it to be opposite of that. It seems now, that if "little Billy" dos something bad at school, rather than a trip to the principals office for "the Strap", he gets a time out. Then when he goes home and tell Mom about what happened at school, Mom calls the school, threatening to call the lawyers to sue for damaging Billys fragile ego and sense of self. As Billy gets older, shoplifting from stores, stealing cars, vandalism, selling drugs, break & enter, etc, despite being arrested multiple times, the modern "revolving door" policy by the courts keeps putting him back on the streets constantly, to keep the cycle going. Instead of society losing their sense of humor, it seems more accurate to say that many of today population has lost their sense of personal responsabilty and accountability , not to mention a total lack of respect for other peoples belongings.
Some truth to that..especially mommy and daddy and their lack of responsibility. But also...I see kids arrested for things today that they would have never been arrested for before.
Goes both ways...and neither...is the right way. Sadly...I think we have forgotten how to deal with small issues...how to parent...how to raise kids to have respect, for themselves, others and society as a whole.
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UH OH Beaver...we're in trouble now... :burnout:
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Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-05-21 10:26
I just want to know which one of those urchins was Dave! :003:
Those were good days to be sure. Bet part was if you were caught, it usually meant some sever punishment like washing the patrol car or some other menial task.
Today...poor kids get hauled off to jail, booked, then have to go before a judge. Society has lost it's sense of humor.
I wasn't me, really...we would never think of doing that to a mean teacher's car! or would we... oh oh.. I hear the cops coming!
Things started going down hill when we were told corporal punishment was bad. Not making the little league team hurt their self esteem. Everybody had to play and have at least one at bat. Then we had to give every kid a trophy for showing up no matter where the team finished. Then lets do away with scores so there are no winners or losers. Now some schools are doing away with grades.....again to save the little $_its self esteem. See how well all of that is working out? Everybody is a victim, everybody "deserves" the new car, big house, big TV and countless "toys" and a debt load that would stagger a camel! Got to have it now, demand CEO wages in an entry level position. Have no idea what hard work is and if it don't work throw it away.....off my box now.
Hear hear. I walked away with my son at the end of a baseball season when they started handing out "participation" trophies at the end of a season back in '91. I explained to him he played for a team that had not won enough games to be rewarded with a trophy...and being smart...he understood. He refused a trophy in subsequent years on his own.
Liberalism has killed initiative in this world.
Me too...off the box...time for breakfast. :deadhorse:
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X4
guys, there is a lot of hassles involved living these times. my son is 13yo, so , yeah. what you are talking about. count me in. and I am only 46.
on a brighter side. Old Fords !!!
Took the Lady out for a spin. wearing her most elegant dress at sundown ! (looks black, but actually is a bright coach maroon !)
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Oh she is indeed elegant! And her true color begins to show in the up close pics. A nice lady indeed!
would you believe this is the same ole car? showing so peculiar in different lighting.
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Those snow background shots are nice...make the color of the car pop! I like the maroon! :006:
Beautiful car. I like the maroon, it's a classy color !
appreciate it guys. I think the same. black is beautiful but can get boring at times. the maroon always changes its mood. looks so different in bright daylight or nightime.
Nice DJ, very-very nice.
Being from the continent, I think that would by Burgundy, not moron.
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-05-22 18:05
Being from the continent, I think that would by Burgundy, not moron.
Very nice indeed, but who are you calling a moron? :003:
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Looks like a well used '57! Luggage rack and a hitch. That car had some tales to tell.
^I'm thinking the same about her..... :002:
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A 2 Ford family
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-05-23 06:19
^I'm thinking the same about her..... :002:
By now...most likely. :002:
And that pic...hurts to look at...very much! :'(
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What a beauty !
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Quote from: hemidave on 2020-05-24 07:22
What a beauty !
And the car wasn't bad either! :006: :003:
I love those inverted color schemes on the 56s (lower body lighter color). I wish it would have been an option on our 57s as well. ( or at least I don't remember any originals)
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-05-24 07:47
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Joe
Is that the Sagamore bridge to the cape in picture 4162?
JA
Jay, I thought the same thing, unfortunately, I have been unable to find any info on that pic and there are no visible license plates.
Joe
I was looking for plates also.
If no one is claiming that bridge, Why don't we? There has to be someone that wants to buy a bridge.
Rich. You are from Mass. is that one of the two that cross over to the cape?
Jay
Jay, I'd like to help you claim that bridge, but unfortunately not what you think it is.
No use asking a Texan from Colorado, you rather ask a New England guy from Austria ! :002: :003:
That day I was riding shotgun in a 1934 Ford cab, but can't remember whose that was...
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if you look at the portal construction, the bridges appear totally different. the unkown bridge in Joes pic has an all convex shape, while Sagamore (spell: Sug ah mo.ee :003: :002:) is concave from entry to portal. also the portal header girder is crowned on Sagamore and straight on the other unkown bridge. Those steel structure bridges from that period and earlier, they are just work of art!!!
a little hard to make out the numbers, built from 1933 to 1935.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-05-23 06:20
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Good eye DJ.... :003:
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Enjoying a "top down" day
if you look at the portal construction, the bridges appear totally different. the unkown bridge in Joes pic has an all convex shape, while Sagamore (spell: Sug ah mo.ee :003: :002:) is concave from entry to portal. also the portal header girder is crowned on Sagamore and straight on the other unkown bridge. Those steel structure bridges from that period and earlier, they are just work of art!!!
a little hard to make out the numbers, built from 1933 to 1935.
Joe It took an engineer from across the pond to show me that I was getting ready to sell the wrong bridge.
Guenter I will always remember that day when we took a drive to the cape and drove around the back roads in the sedan and you took that picture. It was a very warm day in October.
I don't know if I ever mentioned it, but we used to drive out to the cape just about every nice weekend in the summer. When our niece was 3, we were approaching the Sagamore Bridge, and she asked if we were going over it. After saying yes, she did not want to go any further. She thought we were going to drive over the top of the bridge...LOL,,something we and she will never forget !
that is a funny story, Dave ! :003:
That bridge is so beautiful !
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'61
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-05-25 22:54
I don't know if I ever mentioned it, but we used to drive out to the cape just about every nice weekend in the summer. When our niece was 3, we were approaching the Sagamore Bridge, and she asked if we were going over it. After saying yes, she did not want to go any further. She thought we were going to drive over the top of the bridge...LOL,,something we and she will never forget !
Hemidave Thank you very much for sharing that nice story with us.
Somewhere In my collection of stuff, I have a " Cape cod tunnel pass " I jokingly would show it to people that complained about the traffic on the two bridges and told them to use the tunnel. "There is no tunnel."
Someone made the passes as a joke.
Joe thanks for the call last night. It's always nice talking to you . Just curious do you have a Cape Cod tunnel pass?
I used to have a Cape Cod Tunnel Permit on the back bumper of my pickup.
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I'm going to print out a "Cape Cod Tunnel Permit" and give it to my niece !
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Dave That's a good idea. She is going to give you a big hug and a smile when you do that.
Joe I'm going to be a nice guy and not accuse you of having my tunnel pass even though mine had the same number as yours.. HAHA Jay
DJ will be in double pain looking at #4183.
Exactly what I was thinking, Les. Check the thread on "Ranchero out of nowhere". Is that your friend's?
Oh yes, I clearly remember that day! I had put the cars in winter storage when the lift with the wgn collapsed and smashed my little bug... :002: :005:
Quote from: fdlrc on 2020-05-27 18:45
DJ will be in double pain looking at #4183.
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performance by FORD
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-05-28 04:02
Oh yes, I clearly remember that day! I had put the cars in winter storage when the lift with the wgn collapsed and smashed my little bug... :002: :005:
DJ..... What do you have against VWs ? I thought that you liked them. Next time please find another object to swat the bugs.
Fitzgerald Lincoln-Mercury Ann Arbor, MI
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Were all Edsel dealers stand alone? Never thought about it befoe. I just assumed they were attached to Ford or Lincoln / Mercury dealers.
Apparently it varied Rich; sorry, but I couldn't find much info other than some ads and pics. Some where of independent Edsel Dealers, and some were Ford, Lincoln-Mercury dealerships:
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They always get there man....
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A very talented friend of mine built and restored this Comet FX car.... the owner lives about an hour east of me(everyone lives an hour from me!)
true 427/4 speed car.
It now lives in the Southern States.
maybe I posted this before..... don't know.
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Test day...... these were handed out for a huge road test to Journalist and engineers.... only 1 failed
GM's misinformation worked very well....
Not sure what is going on here......
Looks like a scene from a movie...but I can't remember which one.
That was a LONG line of minty green Edsels! I like that color.
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I like your avatar. Kind of reminds me of Christine.
"One Piece at a Time" by Johnny Cash
Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-05-30 19:11
I like your avatar. Kind of reminds me of Christine.
....and that is
EXACTLY the reason I am changing it back to single lights!
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I'll bet that was mine at some point in it's life :003:
August 10, 1957. The guy buys the Sunliner brand new in NYC, then drives to TX to marry his new bride. After a little while decides it's too hot driving the '57, and trades it for a '54 Lincoln with AC !
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-05-31 06:17
....and that is EXACTLY the reason I am changing it back to single lights!
Finish it off with one 57 and one 58 set up, take it to the car show and the guy whose uncle had the 200 mpg carb will tell you how this was a special factory option for dealers in areas where the deer population was high, and there was a guy who wanted to be a missionary had a station wagon with it and the red ants could attack the concrete under a single wide trailer and .....
Just when you think you have heard it all, another one comes along and the story gets better. They usually wearing a
Snap On Tool jacket.
Touche' :laughing4:
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-05-31 09:20
Finish it off with one 57 and one 58 set up, take it to the car show and the guy whose uncle had the 200 mpg carb will tell you how this was a special factory option for dealers in areas where the deer population was high, and there was a guy who wanted to be a missionary had a station wagon with it and the red ants could attack the concrete under a single wide trailer and .....
Just when you think you have heard it all, another one comes along and the story gets better. They usually wearing a Snap On Tool jacket.
Man those guys get around. See them at Mustang shows too.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-05-31 11:17
Man those guys get around. See them at Mustang shows too.
Yeah, those are normally the guys whose fathers uncles second cousin had Henry Fords personal factory specially built 67 Boss 429 Mustang convertible that had 2000 horsepower and would pull wheelies in all 4 gears, and got 47 miles per gallon with a top secret experimental carburator.
:040:
Quote from: 59meteor on 2020-05-31 11:55
Yeah, those are normally the guys whose fathers uncles second cousin had Henry Fords personal factory specially built 67 Boss 429 Mustang convertible that had 2000 horsepower and would pull wheelies in all 4 gears, and got 47 miles per gallon with a top secret experimental carburator.
Aren't those from that special (and thankfully small) breed of show gawkers called morons? My '69 had a custom stripe design put on it by the guy I bought it from. over the years I had a couple or three guys give me that "Oh yea...my dad bought one with those stripes too right off the show room floor...drove it off the floor himself." Two tall tales in one sentence!
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-05-31 06:24
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That should buff right out!
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Must be in G.B., Australia.
Must be Britain, if you look at the rotation of the rear wheel it has to be in the northern hemisphere, like flushing a toilet.
:iamwithstupid: :003:
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1963 Ford Galaxie 500-XL 2-Door Hardtop & Thunderbird Landau 2-Door Hardtop
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Set on the movie "NIAGRA"
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Notice no tread on the front tire. But hey the wheel covers stayed on!
And the tree was still standing. May even be today. LOL!!!
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It's a top down day
Hiball
Please do not look at picture 4216. Jay
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2020-06-03 11:03
Hiball
Please do not look at picture 4216. Jay
ROTFLMAO! You
KNOW he is gonna scroll right to it immediately...right? LOL!!! :003:
Henry
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Thunderbolt Thursday...
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'39 driven to the track
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427 power
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1958 Mercury tail light assembly up close
Pictures taken at car shows in last couple of years.
I like that green and white. Have always liked that shade of green on he '57's. Makes the lines seem sharper or something. Jjust a nice calm color.
nice wagons ! yes the green reversed paint scheme looks good!
I have to say black with red wheels might be a little overused, but the Ranchwagon really looks great with that combo !
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Mustang Sally ?
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I've seen the green and white wagon several times at NSRA shows..really nice car.
Les.....glad you posted that shot of yours next to the Ranchero.........show at the Abbey?, can't remember, but I saw you there. Check this thread posted last month and see if you think it's the same Ranchero. Blue looks lighter in the LA pic Swank posted, but pic color can be deceiving.
http://57fordsforever.com/smf/index.php?topic=8256.0
Oh Joe...that is a sad pic! English T-Bird I noticed.
Or it got t-boned so hard the steering wheel was moved over.
To straight and well aligned with the dashboard to have been moved that far. And the roof line looks pretty straight. I think had it been t-boned hard enough to move the steering column all the way across the passenger compartment that the top of the car would have been severely wrinkled.
JMHO.
Actually it's from a book, In 1977, photographers Larry Sultan (USA) and Mike Mandel (USA) published a book of photographs entitled Evidence. Accompanied by an exhibition in the same year at the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, this project was the culmination of a three-year search through the files and archives of over one hundred American government agencies, educational institutions, and corporations, such as the Bechtel Corporation, General Atomic Company, Jet Propulsion Laboratories, the San Jose Police Department and the United States Department of the Interior.
The original pictures Sultan and Mandel collected were made as documents and objective records of activities and situations: the scenes of crimes, aeronautical engineering tests, industrial experiments, among other subjects. Sifting through some two million images, Mandel and Sultan assembled a careful sequence of 59 pictures.
Evidence is, as the artists stated back in the 1970s, "a poetic exploration upon the restructuring of imagery." Pictures that once served a functional purpose in the world are, in this exhibition, stripped of their explanatory captions and institutional contexts, carefully sequenced, and presented as expressive artefacts. In this new setting, the images testify to cryptic and dubious rituals, to a culture of dehumanising, ambiguous institutional values, to mid-century industry regarded as a religion.
Although the exhibition carefully articulates the reading of the photographs in terms of their "documentary" origins, the photographs are reproduced without captions identifying specific images or their sources. The photographs here serve as answers to questions long ago abandoned. Faced with a world of mysterious events and unfathomable activities, we are provided with only the sequential narrative of the book and are actively required to participate in creating its meaning.
Super Marauder beast.
Look at the garnish molding above the rocker and the stainless passenger window surround, somebody went through that window!
Ron.
It doesn't look to me like the steering wheel is far enough to the right to be a right-side driver. Did those t-birds have the swing away steering column? Also, the sill plate appears to be buckled, which would go along with being t-boned.
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'57 Skyliner
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-06-07 23:14
It doesn't look to me like the steering wheel is far enough to the right to be a right-side driver. Did those t-birds have the swing away steering column? Also, the sill plate appears to be buckled, which would go along with being t-boned.
Nope, first year for the swing away was 61, an option, became standard 62 - 66.
Isn't it great to spend a joyful day out with your beloved family ? :003:
Thinking that pops is only getting annoyed by parking next to a chebbie. Good move he has turned his back to that.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-06-08 05:00
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Yep Rich, at the Abbey. Yes the blues in my pictures are Dresden vs. the other blue, Starmist I think. Not same car for sure.
Dealer insentives
Free Uranium stock? LOL!!! Glowingly great idea! :005:
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NICE !!! 63 Comet S-22, probably with the brandnew 260 SBF V8 ! Loving these cars !
1936 Ford - Carpenters Drive in on Sunset and Vine in Los Angeles. NBC studios in the background.
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White with a candy apple green metallic top
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Hello Honey
'61
If I had a 55 Ford, we would probably look like this.
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Remember the event like it was 50 years ago.
They did an evening performance seminar in the shop, you should have seen the parking lot.
Then they went to Mission Raceway for the weekend. It was a BIG deal.
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-06-12 18:33
Remember the event like it was 50 years ago.
They did an evening performance seminar in the shop, you should have seen the parking lot.
Then they went to Mission Raceway for the weekend. It was a BIG deal.
I still owe you a beer for the poster you gave me. Great stuff.
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Daytona Speed Trials? 1956 Joe Weatherly Ford convertible
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Great advertisement
I wouldnt be looking to buy a new Ford on a windy day at that dealer. I cant make it out but is that laundry drying ?
haha.I was wondering the same thing..........a shredded banner?
From a guy on the HAMB:
"I remember this when I was only 11 years old. Long John Silver I think his name was. Downtown Phoenix, Arizona. At the time this photo was taken, all dealerships were down town between 7th ave and Central on Van Buren a DJ at KHAT radio.......if I remember right. I think he won the car if he stayed up ther long enough. Dad and I would ride down town to see him as he did his radio show from the car. "
I always wanted one of these. Fairly rare body style Custom 500 with some sort of 427, preferably a SOHC.
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Don't we all? :002:
nice looking but that 6 cylinder would come up a little short
I spoke with the owner about it and it is an original paint survivor. He was quite happy with the thrifty six and three on the tree.
Something with a little more get up and go...
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And I always wanted a '61 Starliner like the one next to that '64, or another hard to find '60 starliner like in your last pic (just not those colors). Some rare cars at that show. '62s aren't that easy to find either.
BRISTOL
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Ah...scratching the back bumper! Launch that baby!!!
I wanted to do a Freddie Lorenzen 1964 back when I was waiting for my Custom 300 to come available. There was a car auction here and there was a 2 door going on the block. I got about 10-meters (33 feet) away from it and turned around. All rusted, lots of work, not going to spend my money on it.
Later in the day a buddy that knew my dream asked if I bid on the Galaxie and I told him it was a turd. He told me to go back and have another look. It had already crossed the block and sold, turned out it was a movie double for the Double Jeopardy movie with Tommy Lee Jones and Ashley Judd. They had done five of them and all the rust and crap was painted on.
Coulda woulda, didn't.
:canada:
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Had to be an Australian offering. Looks pretty cool!
It would be cool if the roof came off. It would look like a mini 1970 Ranchero.
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Beautiful '39
Interesting that it has 'trafficators' i.e. semaphore turn signals on the a posts. It's definitely a US model Ford, but appears to be delivered in Europe. It's not a German '39 Ford V8. The Gentleman has a 'French' look to him.
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-06-15 06:53
Beautiful '39
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-06-14 06:53
BRISTOL
My dad took me to that race. After the race, we went into the pits to see if we could talk to Lorentzen, but he was in pain from previous accident and didn't stick around. I settled for autograph from Herb Nab his crew chief. Thanks for the memories
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The bike driver probably ended up on the porch of that beautiful Victorian house.
Around half of all motorcycle accidents are caused by a vehicle turning left in front of you. He would be lucky if he ended up on the front porch.
Given the position of the car, parallel to the house and no evidence from tire marks of the car having been pushed 70-90 degrees, looks more like the motorcycle probably ran a stop sign behind him at what at this picture offers was a "T" intersection. With a larger view of the scene I might be able to offer more...but that is the conclusion I see.
And given the height of the car...that dent in the top of the door...was his head. I don't think Excedrin would have helped with the resulting headache.
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'55 Sunliner
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-06-15 14:59
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My Mom's brother was a motor bike patrolman in Milwaukee, WI. He was killed when a car pulled out in front of him while on routine patrol. Back in the day they did not wear helmets, just had their regular duty billed caps. She said that the top edge of the door had the imprint of his cap badge in it. This happened in 37 - 38 time frame, not sure of the time, just best I can remember. Wonder where that photo was taken?
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-06-16 05:07
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This is the Ford dealer that I worked for between 1965 to 1971. This was his original location at 58th Ave, in Glendale Arizona. They built a new store down the street (Grand Ave) at 53rd Ave. It was a 17 acre dealership with about 250 employees. They were a full service dealership, with a large truck shop, tire shop, body shop, etc. They were and still are a Ford Racing Parts dealership, then it was called Total Performance. They have rebuilt and relocated the Grand Ave store to the back of their property and are now located on 51st Ave and Maryland.
The best part of the original 58th Ave location was Joe's Hamburger stand was across the street on a tiny triangle piece of property. They made the best chill burgers and as a kid I would walk across the street and window shop those "then new" 1956/57/58 Fords.
Working at the dealership was a fun gig for a kid just out of High School. They were completely flexible with my work schedule so I could attend college. Thanks for the memories.
Working at a dealership fresh out of high school was every cr guy's dream...and was obtainable too. Not so much today. Miss those good ol' days.
Have a buddy who is a cop in Phoenix...I wonder if he buys his Fords from there? Took his wife's Explorer in once for an oil change...and when it came back out...it had turned into a new Explorer. That's the story he told her anyhow! LOL!!! After a couple of days she was fine with it...but a little miffed at first. :005:
Quote from: Ford Blue blood on 2020-06-16 08:20
My Mom's brother was a motor bike patrolman in Milwaukee, WI. He was killed when a car pulled out in front of him while on routine patrol. Back in the day they did not wear helmets, just had their regular duty billed caps. She said that the top edge of the door had the imprint of his cap badge in it. This happened in 37 - 38 time frame, not sure of the time, just best I can remember. Wonder where that photo was taken?
I am assuming here in Massachusetts, as it was in the Boston Public library Archives.
"File name: 08_06_018073
Title: Auto accidents
Creator/Contributor: Jones, Leslie, 1886-1967 (photographer)
Date created: 1948
Physical description: 1 negative : film, black & white ; 4 x 5 in.
Genre: Film negatives
Subject: Traffic accidents; Motorcycles
Notes: Title and date from information provided by Leslie Jones or the Boston Public Library on the negative or negative sleeve.
Collection: Leslie Jones Collection
Location: Boston Public Library, Print Department
Rights: Copyright Leslie Jones.
Preferred credit: Courtesy of the Boston Public Library, Leslie Jones Collection."
Geeze Joe...are you a research savant? Amazing how you are always able to come up with the background info. I have this couple who skipped out on me owing rent...LOL!!! Sic 'em... :003:
Quote from: John Palmer on 2020-06-16 14:25
This is the Ford dealer that I worked for between 1965 to 1971. This was his original location at 58th Ave, in Glendale Arizona. They built a new store down the street (Grand Ave) at 53rd Ave. It was a 17 acre dealership with about 250 employees. They were a full service dealership, with a large truck shop, tire shop, body shop, etc. They were and still are a Ford Racing Parts dealership, then it was called Total Performance. They have rebuilt and relocated the Grand Ave store to the back of their property and are now located on 51st Ave and Maryland.
The best part of the original 58th Ave location was Joe's Hamburger stand was across the street on a tiny triangle piece of property. They made the best chill burgers and as a kid I would walk across the street and window shop those "then new" 1956/57/58 Fords.
Working at the dealership was a fun gig for a kid just out of High School. They were completely flexible with my work schedule so I could attend college. Thanks for the memories.
Cool story, thanks for sharing, tried finding info on "Joe's Hamburgers in Glendale, but no luck. Are you sure that was the correct name?
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-06-16 14:56
Cool story, thanks for sharing, tried finding info on "Joe's Hamburgers in Glendale, but no luck. Are you sure that was the correct name?
LOL, Yea, but you have to consider how well a 73 year old memory is still working!
It was painted orange, likely for safety because it was on the tiny small triangle shaped ground left by the intersection of three streets. Note Grand Ave the major street runs at a 45 degree angle to all of the other (north/south, and east/west) streets. It was still there as late as 1965. It was a dump, just a old time hamburger stand on the side of the road. My favorite was Birley's Chocolate drink. Who knows what was in it, but it tasted like chocolate milk. You served yourself for bottled drinks by sorting through the ice filled Coke Cooler outside. Kind of nice, when it's 115 degrees out. It only had maybe five or six stools outside, and would not be considered safe today with cars cruising by on Grand Ave (it's highway 60) at 50 MPH.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-06-16 14:43
Working at a dealership fresh out of high school was every cr guy's dream...and was obtainable too. Not so much today. Miss those good ol' days.
Have a buddy who is a cop in Phoenix...I wonder if he buys his Fords from there? Took his wife's Explorer in once for an oil change...and when it came back out...it had turned into a new Explorer. That's the story he told her anyhow! LOL!!! After a couple of days she was fine with it...but a little miffed at first. :005:
The dealer (Don Sanderson) was also on the Glendale Union High School Board of Trustee's. Each year he gave a Snap-on tool box with a starter set of tools to the top industrial arts (auto shop) student at each of the four districts high schools. He also gave a interview to each winning student and offered a chance to come to work for the dealership. We worked in the used car get ready department. I worked all summer of 1965, then told them I would be leaving to attend the local college. They said, don't quit, just come work anytime you want to around your college schedule. Hard to believe today they would be so flexible. I worked there over six years, and had a great time.
I went to college with a guy named Dave Kimerle who later married Sue Sanderson (Dons daughter), and still runs Sanderson Ford today.
I'll ask my buddy if it is still there. He is a hamburger slut! LOL!!! he's a detective now, but was a patrolman there for 20+ years.
He works for Phoenix P.D. but lives in Glendale. Sent him an e-mail.
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So this is what my buddy said...
"Yup Patty remembers that place but it's long gone and they have widened the road around there. Sanderson Ford still has a 50's diner called the starliner. The food is ok. "
Patty is his wife. I believe she was born and raised in Phoenix area. He moved there out of high school from the "nation state" of Cali.
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C/G
WVOK , The Mighty 690 ! I listened to the Joe Rumore show daily when I was a teenager, it was about a hundred miles from our home.
:headbang: :sign5:
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MY BABY
Bonnie
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'61
How could such a nice looking woman be so stupid? (Bonnie)
And yea...I'd have hopped right in that trunk with the lady...yep...would have! :002:
Yup.......The days of Big Trunks, and Removeable Back Seats, the cheapest way to get into the drive in.
Curious on that 61, is that an add-on 1" or so reflector?
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Quote from: fdlrc on 2020-06-19 14:10
Curious on that 61, is that an add-on 1" or so reflector?
I believe it was an owner or dealer add-on.
Yep, it's an add on. That has to be a Custom all the Galaxies had the aluminum trim from taillight to taillight that matched the grille.
Ron.
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Nice '51
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God.I have always loved this thing.... quite a story behind it.
Detroit Dragway!
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They always get their man.....
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Random......
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When you have great friends.....
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"I think we are gonna need to check the steering"
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One of my best pals from Braintree Mass.. Chuckie.. who comes to our Weekender car show..... every year with his post war 33 Hotrod.... and of course a pic of HotRod Donnies old Gasser.(at our show as well)
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The incredible Gus M and his amazing art he did for the SCTA and Performance shops.... Cool is cool.(Unfortunately ,... Gus lost his leg in an accident on this early Harley)
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Dreams....
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If I ever get a 57 or 58 courier....
I definitely letter this on the back....awesome.
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My favourite place in the whole world ..my shop.(Please avoid your eyes from the Hemispherical power )
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I just love old school streamliners....
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I could stare at this all day.
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A very big re-shuffling of our hobby in these strange days..... 10 years ago... One project would cost this price(this lot has since sold)
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My buddy Bob was at Ted Eaton's shop getting his 312 done and met the man, Karol Miller..... this man is a legend with Ford stuff.... he was at Bonneville in 58 and drove his 56 there and back... and did 160+... and drove home in it.He did the same thin with a 60 Ford a few years later.Uses nothing but stock Ford parts.
Mr. Miller is 93 and is building a super hi-horspower I-6..... This man is Legend.
He is AWESOME.
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Basically, this is 2020 in a nutshell.....ha ha ha ha
Later fellas.
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Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2020-06-20 11:14
If I ever get a 57 or 58 courier....
I definitely letter this on the back....awesome.
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The Dick Clark theater here in Branson has an auto museum in the basement. Don't know if it is still there or not, but he had a '57 Coroner's Courier from Kentucky inside. Was in perfect shape. Supposedly everything inside has a price tag FYI.
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2020-06-20 11:04
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Does anyone remember seeing the 57's exhaust running along the frame like this. Also this looks like it is has resonators. I do like the routing of the exhaust.
Great pics Jeff. That shop is about as cool as it gets (even with the hemi's)!
Amazing to see Karol Miller still getting his hands dirty.
Great pics Jeff ^^^
Thanks Hemidave!
Marc.. that Karol Miller is one incredible man!... funny story.. when my pal Bob asked about the woman in the Bonneville picture, Karol replied" Oh, thats Flo,... and she is still hot today."
hahahah
Terry..I've only seen that exhaust set up with Resonators in service manuals... never saw a photo before.
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In regard to photo 4243, for some reason I am sure all the cars of Dick Clarks were sold seems as though they had a auction, been a few years ago but I remember reading about it, they had a little of everything.
Nope...they are still there, the business s still open though it has changed from shows by actual artists to impersonators and the basement auto/life museum displaying life of the late 50's is still in place. Many cars are still on display outside as well. There are some cars that have been put up for sale/auction over the years, but others are brought in to replace them and keep the displays rotating.
The place is on the "strip" of town, aka Hwy 76 which goes from I-65 all the way out to Silver Dollar City, the large theme park on the west end of town.
Some of the cars are on display in the lower parking lot on the west side of the building.
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2020-06-21 07:35
Thanks Hemidave!
Marc.. that Karol Miller is one incredible man!... funny story.. when my pal Bob asked about the woman in the Bonneville picture, Karol replied" Oh, thats Flo,... and she is still hot today."
hahahah
Terry..I've only seen that exhaust set up with Resonators in service manuals... never saw a photo before.
Jeff I clearly remember seeing the resonators on my brother's 57 Ford Mass State Police car that he bought at Hoover Motors in Boston when the 58's came out. They removed the whip antenna holes on the quarter panel and the light holes in the roof and painted it for about $50 as I remember. Jay
Oh no, not my Sunliner !
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2020-06-22 05:48
Jeff I clearly remember seeing the resonators on my brother's 57 Ford Mass State Police car that he bought at Hoover Motors in Boston when the 58's came out. They removed the whip antenna holes on the quarter panel and the light holes in the roof and painted it for about $50 as I remember. Jay
Amazing Jay!
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Nosed and most likely decked
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Nice Bird
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-06-24 05:05
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The ultimate in yard art!
I guess we are all going to be nothing more than a chicken coop someday.
Rare stainless steel Ford and Lincoln cars
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The 1936 Ford Deluxe Sedan, 1960 Ford Thunderbird and 1967 Lincoln Continental Convertible were all manufactured with the Pittsburgh-based steel company's product on their existing assembly lines. Six Deluxe Sedans, two Thunderbirds and three Continentals were built.
The cars were all used in the real world to help promote and test the durability of the rust-resistant material, and the bodies held up better than their conventional counterparts before they were finally parked.
Doesn't hurt any that the last one pictured is living in AZ. Those are neat.
Have a buddy who owns a rod shop in Montesano WA and he had a customer who wanted his car stripped of every speck of paint...and then clear coated with about 6 coats. He was going to drive it that way. Not sure how that worked out for hum in the rather damp climate of grays Harbor WA which is more damp than most any other part of WA. Have to say though it was sure a cool look. Forgotten now what kind of car it was...I was more focused on that trip with the '39 Lincoln.
Cale, a "GOOD OLD BOY"
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"HOT" rods? :003:
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A happy pair
Not too sure about the little guy on the left. He has that "I really don't want to be here" look!
God do I remember the days of the "everyone dress alike now" fad! Hated it then...still hate the pics of those days today! UGH!!!
Quote from: Ford Blue blood on 2020-06-26 07:35
Not too sure about the little guy on the left. He has that "I really don't want to be here" look!
They are somewhat happy because their parents bought a '54 Ford, and they like riding in it ! LOL
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must be Swedish.... :003:
G...no...most likely American. Back in those days there was this fad among moms to dress the entire family in matching outfits. UGH
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I like the chrome reversed
I thought Swedish because of the plumes on their hats?
Here is my find of the week.
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Interceptor Y-8....................interesting. Can't remember how many conversations I've had about the name interceptor. I was sure it was first used in '58 with the 352. hmmmm.
Has anyone actually seen a '56 with interceptor decals on the motor?
'56...
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...and '55 too:
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Great ads Joe ^^^
I wonder if this one was 292 or 312 powered
Yes I meant the Fairlane Kustom. it has typical Swedish treatment again.
Well, the boys were hilarious ! The look to be dressed pretty German, imho What do you think Jay?
They look like Bavarian or Schw?bisch, especially with those feathers ont he felt hats. Its a great pic as well.
So many neat pictures comin up here, thanx to everybody for posting these !!!
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-06-27 05:41
(http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/sign/sign0007.gif) (http://www.mysmiley.net) I think he means the Fairlane pic guys.
nearly a Ford.
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What do we know about the Lincoln wagon? one off custom coachbuilt? I'm sure I've ever seen one before.
I am sorry Rich, there are quite a lot of pics of this car on the internet, but I couldnt find a proper accompanying description.
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Günter
#4383 She could be Bavarian from that time, but the plates on the car appear to be American, not European US miiitary.
That Lincoln beach wagon is one huge vehicle. I can't remember seeing one of them. Looks like it will have no problems
pulling that trailer. Jay
The excitement for the boys
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2020-06-29 06:13
Günter
#4383 She could be Bavarian from that time, but the plates on the car appear to be American, not European US miiitary.
That Lincoln beach wagon is one huge vehicle. I can't remember seeing one of them. Looks like it will have no problems
pulling that trailer. Jay
I think it is going to need a trailer hitch.
John
John, pretty sure that in the rearend pic of the Lincoln wagon there is a receptable (? probably the wrong term) for a hitch and the electric connector socket visible. probably has a removable ball.
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WOW ! :004:
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Nice looking flathead
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WOW, nice Bird !
Yes she was! :005:
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That 57 used to be my avatar a few years back. Cool picture.
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Check your oil ?
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That tractor is pretty sweet too!
Carrell Speedway
That Merc Hauler is what dreams are made of..... Gosh.... I wish I had a rig like that..... well... I wish I had the money for a rig like that.
x2 Jeff !
That rig is a work of art all the way. including the big M 1957 Turnpike Cruiser. The trailer appears to have transluscent overhead panels. and look at all the polished aluminium, those sweet 1950s rounded corners everywhere and neat trim and lettering. If I was a boy in 1957 (fall 1956) I would probably have sat in front of the trailer glass and stared at it for hours.
I am sure, that many did! Including adults! :003:
guys, look at this, its utterly fantastic !
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check this out guys ! :004:
https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2018/08/24/mercurys-xm-turnpike-cruiser-unearthed-headed-into-restoration (https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2018/08/24/mercurys-xm-turnpike-cruiser-unearthed-headed-into-restoration)
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so cool ! :004:
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I am slowly going nuts over this ! :003:
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and more :003:
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$10,000.00 worth of parts, that is one good flathead today.
:canada:
That is simply Amazing Gunther.... Van-O-Rama... I was wondering what those 2 half bubbles on the hauler were?.. vents?.....I wonder what happened to this rig... maybe re-purposed and lost to history and the scrap yard?
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-07-03 10:09
$10,000.00 worth of parts, that is one good flathead today.
:canada:
So true Terry......
One source stated it was sold to a mobile radio station, never to be seen again since. Tom Maruska, who is currently restoring the original XM said he stopped tracking down the whereabouts of the trailer, because he didn't have enough space to restore it actually.
Jeff, check out all the fabulous original advertising. This is really a wild creation rolling work of art, much like somebody like you would have come up in mid century renderings. The design is so crazy and yet so clean, it sometimes looks like photoshop. but of course we know it isn't. it was all real.
http://www.tommaruskacars.us/XMTC/chapter01.html (http://www.tommaruskacars.us/XMTC/chapter01.html)
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2020-07-03 10:15
what happened to this rig... maybe re-purposed and lost to history and the scrap yard?
and here it is moving under it's own power, both the Xm and the truck.
Rich and Joe what do you think about the rear bumperless rolled pan on the car?! looking very sporty imho.
since this was built in 1956, it also precedes the 'hooded headlight' look of our beloved 57 Fords.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaMOyWmAkNw&feature=emb_logo
My very thought as well when looking at the front headlight treatment. This project must have cost a lot to put together.
I like it, looks pretty cool with the dual side exhaust.
Happy 4th of July !
Thought things looked a little off in that pic......it's been reversed.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-07-04 08:44
Thought things looked a little off in that pic......it's been reversed.
Fixed it.
Cleo Moore
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Honey, I'm home !
Remember the original Vegas? This guy must have thought there was a turntable inside to spin his car around so he could just drive back out.
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Beautiful car!!! I don't know why, but when I saw this pic I immediately thought of Yellowstone.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-07-06 22:19
Beautiful car!!! I don't know why, but when I saw this pic I immediately thought of Yellowstone.
Strange, I thought of Yosemite!
Yellowstone, why, do you see Kevin Costner somewhere? (http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/happy/happy0196.gif) (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-jumping-smileys.php)
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At the OASIS
Oasis......gotta be the most used name ever for bars. I wonder what year that pic was taken, the '57 looks to be already chewed up with rust.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-07-07 08:02
Oasis......gotta be the most used name ever for bars. I wonder what year that pic was taken, the '57 looks to be already chewed up with rust.
The side molding looks like no other Custom Iv'e ever seen also.
the front piece on the side molding fell off?
Couldn't have been too old of a pic at the time it was taken...nothing else in the pic looks all that newer. Couple of winters on salted winter roads with no washing would do the job on the car.
Looks like the grill is missing too...maybe has already had a case of molecular rearrangement of front sheet metal at some point? Would explain molding missing.
Quote from: gasman826 on 2020-07-07 11:19
the front piece on the side molding fell off?
It looks like the molding extends all the way up to the edge of the door, like something the owner has done. With palm trees in the background that car should not be rusty, unless it spent a couple winters in the rust belt. Compare this truck stop Oasis to the travel Plazas they have today, their massive.
"With palm trees in the background that car should not be rusty,"
True...if this is it's home. I figured it was on a vacation trip...
Fort Lauderdale FL Oasis Truck Stop & Restaurant Old Cars Trucks Gas Postcard
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fort-Lauderdale-FL-Oasis-Truck-Stop-Restaurant-Old-Cars-Trucks-Gas-Postcard/302928162898
sweet evolution of this 'Edselero'
https://kustomrama.com/wiki/Tim_Musico%27s_1957_Ford (https://kustomrama.com/wiki/Tim_Musico%27s_1957_Ford)
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imho it looks great in its latest version (which is only primer)
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I kinda like the maroon and white version. :002:
hahaha..... :003:
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Manila
Love this car....
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Really nice, what's not to love!
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427 POWER
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-07-09 06:19
427 POWER
Not sure which is the more perfect piece of art...the 427 or that beautiful boat!
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-07-09 06:19
427 POWER
Wow! It's not just a 427.........it's a SOHC 427!
Very nice power in a boat.
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Thats what I liked about that era. Most everything was far less than perfect like today and even looked kind of cobbled together. But what a show they would put on. Great pic.
Thanks
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SIMPLER TIMES
#4443 Isn't it amazing how in those days it was OK to sit on the roof bows.
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-07-10 06:56
SIMPLER TIMES
I SO miss those simpler times...more ways than I can count!!! :'(
'55 Lincoln Sportsman Conv
I usually like the woodies.............not that one, too busy! That lady would be so beautiful in a simpler dress.
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X 2. What Rich stated.
x 3... :006:
A pic of my car that I still own today. Taken in around 1972.
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Randy, Nice Boss 429 race car. Glad you were able to hang on to it this long.
Nice lineup
Wonder if that cargo jet was bringing some "shoes and socks" for those Cobras missing them?
My first vehicle was a Bronco, 1966 to be exact:
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...in Caribbean Turquoise
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-07-12 14:54
My first vehicle was a Bronco, 1966 to be exact:
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...in Caribbean Turquoise
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So timely!
The NEW Bronco (all three of them) will be finely re-introduced on Monday 7/13/20 at 4:30 Pacific time.
My 74 Bronco, I bought new, picture taken last week. It's time for second rebuild.
I've got an '86 BII..well over 370k miles now. My son put a new motor/clutch/trans in it around the 370 mark. I'm signing it over to him once I get back to WA.
If I would have had the room I may have kept my 66. It really needed a full on restoration and doing it outside is not the way to go about it.
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Holy Crap hemidave!... Safety 3rd!.... I wonder if that is where a blender Idea came from!!!!! hahahah
Everyday should be a Cammer day!
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Scatter shield needed.....
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Jeff... Is #4478, the black custom your friend's car?
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2020-07-13 13:44
Jeff... Is #4478, the black custom your friend's car?
No Jay... but very close!
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Y Block power
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So...I see the older woman giving a very disapproving look. The old man though...seems to be thinking..."If I were younger...".
You changed your avatar again...what is the coupe? :icon_scratch: New project in the works?
Nah, just a pic of my coupe when it was being built.
I stumbled across something that i thought was pretty cool;I actually found it sold on Barrett Jackson's website from 2008:
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https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1939-FORD-DELUXE-CUSTOM-COUPE-64568
That is kinda nice. Looking at it...I like those wheels even more...especially in the color they are painted. Something just makes them complete the car. Can't put my fingers on it...I just like them on it. Classy look.
I still think you did GRRRRREEEEAAATTT!!! as Tony the Tiger would say!
Hubert Platt caught looking at something ? Looks to be 69 Mustang.
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HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...I dunno...not sure he was looking at the...OH...you were talking about two different subjects. Yea...okay... :003: Right!
Get your minds out of the gutter, boys! I am sure he was just looking down at the shifter to remember the pattern of that Toploader 4 speed!
BUT...there is so many of us down here! :003: and of course he was...uh huh..yep...sure...eh...not likely! :005:
Ya, stop getting us excited !
He is looking for her wedding ring!
The cleavage is super but scope out those snappy pants.
Pants? I have a hard time seeing past the...uh...well... :003:
Thats B.B. !
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-07-15 07:19
Ya, stop getting us excited !
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That won't buff out
No, a buffer wn't help but a couple swipes with bondo and a rattle can will get it done..... :003:
brake check
It's the truck from the movie Duel! I think I saw a young Dennis Weaver.
That was a great movie, mid-sixties possibly. Memory serves, he was in an Dodge Dart. Anyhow thanks for the reminder, I'm going to put it on my watch list.
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Duel; early 70s; amc matador station wagon
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My apologies I was wrong🤗
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Dianna Dors 1967
Hey Joe you better behave !
I knew that 39 Fords were attractive cars, but that attracting ? Also never knew you were a Navy guy... :002:
Damn! I better go put on my dress whites!
AWSOME
Safety first
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Lincoln Premier 1957
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Almost perfect.....the rubber around the bubble skirt needs some attention, lol.
What is that side trim from? I see it on many shoeboxes and 49-51 Mercs?. Buick, Merc?
Rich, I don't believe those are factory skirts, possibly aftermarket?
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...as they even are used on Brand X..
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Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-07-19 10:22
What is that side trim from? I see it on many shoeboxes and 49-51 Mercs?. Buick, Merc?
That is 53 Buick, Rich.
The taillights on the Lincoln are infamous 57 Packard.
Nice Sunliner
Check out the "MILL"
'58 Sunliner
'59 Sunliner in 1965
I take the 'stock' SOHC.
:canada:
'60s doing their stuff
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-07-23 12:19
I take the 'stock' SOHC.
:canada:
I think Jerry still has that car. He is a friend of mine. I will ask next time I see him.
GROSS !
Quote from: cokefirst on 2020-07-24 13:20
I think Jerry still has that car. He is a friend of mine. I will ask next time I see him.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-07-19 07:55
Lincoln Premier 1957
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Thats my good friend Ken Servo's Lincoln.. and it is indeed perfect.
A 58 that frequents are show as well as Ken... those are a definite aftermarket type of skirt.. not my cup of tea but to each his own.
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Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2020-07-24 14:14
A 58 that frequents are show as well as Ken... those are a definite aftermarket type of skirt.. not my cup of tea but to each his own.
I agree, skirts on girls are fine, cars not so much :003:
Ready for the trip
Dave...that was a LOT of trailer to be hauling behind that car! Yikes!!!
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-07-25 11:44
Dave...that was a LOT of trailer to be hauling behind that car! Yikes!!!
X2, Agree, the weight of that trailer well exceeds the car weight. I'd estimate it at about over 5K pounds. Back in that era they used a device called a Slimp Wheel. It was basically a trailer dolly that removed the tongue weight from the tow bumper. It looked like a pair of front landing wheels from an airplane. IMO, it was still "iffy at best". Lucy and Desi used one their famous movie The Long, Long Trailer. They towed with both a convertible '53 Merc, and a '53 Lincoln in different scene's.
Not to mention WAY under-powered I would suspect!
I hope they practice safe distancing driving that rig on the freeway. :003:
I don't believe they're ready to tow that trailer away. The tongue jack appears to be down and the electrical seems to be running down and under the trailer.
The fellow who posted the pics said his parents were moving from Wisconsin to Dayton, Ohio. His dad and uncle owned a garage, so he thought the '54 might have been modified.
I bet they drove a lot in 1st & 2nd gears!
Ron.
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Connie Kalitta's Logghe-chassised Ford-powered digger, photographed on a chassis dyno in one of Ford's labs.
(https://i.imgur.com/Xk3bFs5.jpg)
Logghe Info:
https://www.hotrod.com/articles/logghe-family-changed-face-funny-car-class-drag-racing/
Nice pic! Glad to see ya' back buddy. Thought you had loaded some stuff in the car and run away from home! Was just trying to figure out WHICH car you would run away from home in! You have two sweet options!
Thanks Hugh, needed to re-charge the batteries, so the wife and I spent the week in Truro.
Good for you guys!
For you then...update...my wife signed today and mailed back papers on our house here in MO, I sign mine Thursday. Which means I get to see her in about 10-12 days, and move her out here around August 20th. Haven't seen her since Saturday after Thanksgiving. So she's happy. By end of September we will be done with the moving process and back under the same roof again! Oh...and today...is out 29th anniversary...and for the 3rd year in a row...we have been 2000 miles apart. Next year...we get to celebrate our 30th...TOGETHER! WOW! :003:
Been a long haul getting this all done! Hopefully after the dust settles I can start back on my Courier this winter! Jerry Henry and I have been doing some business together...radiators will be exchanging hands here soon! Still gathering parts! Never stops! :006:
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-07-27 18:35
Thanks Hugh, needed to re-charge the batteries, so the wife and I spent the week in Truro.
Truro is very nice. During the summer of '65 I worked for Cape Cod National Seashore and had a house in Wellfleet first, and then in N. Truro. It was a great summer !
Truro - the underwear capital of Canada.
:canada:
Home of Stanfields.
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-07-27 21:09
Truro - the underwear capital of Canada.
:canada:
Home of Stanfields.
Just the
opposite in the next town here on the Cape. :003:
GULF
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Very early Boss 429 with Connie Kalitta posing. Those engines were horrible running nitromethane, luckily Ford pulled the plug on racing around then anyways.
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R.I.P. John Saxon
Dorothea Lange
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GT500
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LOL....my wife liked that one A LOT!!
I missed buying a Fairlane like that around 1976, my brother bought it for $250.00, one owner.
Paul
I remember back in those days when it was OK / stylish to sit on cars. Just hope that I was not one of the offenders.
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2020-07-31 08:14
I remember back in those days when it was OK / stylish to sit on cars. Just hope that I was not one of the offenders.
Hope? Heck, I thought that was you Jay! (http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/animated/anim_63.gif) (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-japanese-smileys.php)
I don't Know about anyone else, but at that time I was 50-60 pounds lighter and could sit on a fender and NOT damage it! I'll bet most of us could have done that. Times have changed the car bodies got thinner and my body got thicker.
So true Terry
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Man Terry, I am sorry to hear that. When you were at my place I thought you had been lifting weights and doing push-ups. Take care, Alvin
Quote from: alvin stadel on 2020-07-31 20:32
Man Terry, I am sorry to hear that. When you were at my place I thought you had been lifting weights and doing push-ups. Take care, Alvin
Thanks. I've lost 14 pounds since I saw you but that still leaves me 50+ pounds heavier than when I was running 57's.
You for sure don't want to be sitting on, or even leaning against the aluminum fender of that #21 Cobra!
1927......1949
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LOL!!! Like anyone who bought a Thunderbolt was gonna be real worried about the slight deviations. :burnout:
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That is clean! Nice pic Joe!
54 Merc ?
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-08-02 02:06
54 Merc ?
Yes, 1954 MERCURY MONTEREY
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Our '54
WOWSER ! What an incredibly pretty Convertible, Dave....the color combo is absolutely stunning....crazy cool and stylish !!!!
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-08-02 15:21
WOWSER ! What an incredibly pretty Convertible, Dave....the color combo is absolutely stunning....crazy cool and stylish !!!!
Thanks, that was one of the best driving cars I've owned. I took it to the Rhinebeck show years ago, and that was the most enjoyable 2 1/2 hr drives back and forth !
Beautiful Sunliner
Nice candidate for a 427
That's a color I was considering when I painted mine. Looks awesome, wouldn't have been a bad choice.
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AQUASCO
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Love the Mustangs
She is a Mustang... :006:
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-08-04 07:52
Nice candidate for a 427
I wonder what year this photo was taken, car is either fairly new looking, or very well looked after. It seems that outside mirror placement (and style) was all over the map back then, seems no 2 cars have the same mirror in the same location.
Quote from: 59meteor on 2020-08-06 12:19
I wonder what year this photo was taken, car is either fairly new looking, or very well looked after. It seems that outside mirror placement (and style) was all over the map back then, seems no 2 cars have the same mirror in the same location.
I think it was an early 60's photo. I say that because of the clothing style/color, hair style and quality of pic.
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My favorite year of Shelby's....
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Killer Joe!!!!!!
Nice smile
Nice shoes.
Dyno Don...
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The 1965 Comet looks like it was built by the "Hammer to fit, Paint to match" method. Check out the fiberglass front fenders......the body side lines look like they are from two different models. The hood barely fits.
The 1966 Comet Cyclone one piece flip top funny car body looks much better. This was one of the first flip up bodies, way before the days of massive spoilers and huge wings.
Don Nickelson and Gas Ronda were the Ford Guys of the day.
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Sign next to the '65 comet: "Phenix dragway".....???? Where is Phenix?, I just saw, I think, Phenix City Ala?
332 Woodland Drive
Phenix City, AL 36867 USA
DRM ( Dorothy and Robert Mitchum )
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Ride in the rumble seat
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Blown Bird
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I'm sure it was a purpose-built Mustang...but a Pony Car with a rumble seat just seems oh so wrong! :dontknow:
In the tunnel
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I wonder why the MkII is all blacked out, even the grill and windshield trim. is this a shine runner car ?
Yeah, I thought that pic had a bunch of questions in my mind. Given the age of the patrol car, the Mark had to be pretty new.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-08-13 17:17
Yeah, I thought that pic had a bunch of questions in my mind. Given the age of the patrol car, the Mark had to be pretty new.
I think something was mentioned about it being pre production.
Alaska earthquake
On post 4608, the car's windows are so covered with condensation, they look frosted.
LA 1962
'60 Ford? It's the only one I can think of with that high front to back trim.
or 61-3 Tbird
My guess is that is Tippi Hedren in, or during the making of, "The Birds".
I think it's a '61or '62 Lincoln
I think i posted this earlier: Tippi Hedren and Alfred Hitchcock, Los Angeles, on the 101 Freeway in Los Angeles, California, 1962; Photo by Lawrence Schiller 1961 Lincoln Continental 4-Door Convertible
That could be from the movie Marnie. I think there was a Lincoln in that. In the Birds she drove a British sports car.
Traction was pretty good that night at Lions.
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Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-08-15 18:47
Traction was pretty good that night at Lions.
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The Whine Maker was a team that raced out of Phoenix, AZ when I was a kid growing up (mid 1960's). The car was usually painted a light purple color. They tried to run it like a fuel dragster, direct drive, no slipper clutch, no transmission, and tons of Nitro, AND with a rear mounted engine. I saw this car run many different times and they could never get it to leave off the line. It had lots of traction, no low gears to launch the car, and it would just die when they let the clutch out. Lots of big name drivers tried to drive this car. It ran at Mel Larson's Speedworld, and Beeline Dragway, both in the Phoenix, AZ metro area. You surprised me with this photo, I have never seen the front wheels off the ground!
You guys come up with some pretty cool stuff, Thanks for the memories.
John
1952 Ford
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Tri power
Ah...yes! I LOVE tripowers. Have one for each of my Couriers! :003:
More pics of the pre production test mule at Pikes Peak
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Scrubin the white walls, taking pride in your ride. Nice photo.
Speed shop wagon at the races
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Enjoying top down weather
Thelma and Louise's other sisters.
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We want a drag strip
1965
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Vancouver town....
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'53 Ford
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-08-23 07:05
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Beautiful...both that is !!
Production line
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Dad looks overly annoyed...she looks like she is thinking, "what ever!".
Is this a still shot from some movie by chance?
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Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-08-25 21:39
Dad looks overly annoyed...she looks like she is thinking, "what ever!".
Is this a still shot from some movie by chance?
Yes, from the movie 'NIAGARA'
Rita Moreno
I was going to say, thats Norma Jeane (Baker) - M.M.! :003:
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-08-26 07:19
Yes, from the movie 'NIAGARA'
Guys I just want you to know that Cobra Joe came by on Sunday with his 39 Ford coupe It's absolutely stunning, straight, and beautiful. All of the panels and the body are really steel. At first I was wondering if that perfect body was some sort of a steel reproduction. I was wrong. it is a real Henry car. I drove it and it drives and handles like a new car.
Joe , You did real good. The seller made a big mistake when he described that nice all steel car as Tupperware. Thank you for bringing it here for me to see . Jay
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-08-26 07:19
Yes, from the movie 'NIAGARA'
Thanks Dave...
Nice Merc conv
Thanks Jay, it was nice visiting with you too, and yeah, I'm very happy with the seller not knowing what he was selling also. (http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/animated/anim_65.gif) (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-love-smileys.php)(http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/animated/anim_65.gif) (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-love-smileys.php)(http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/animated/anim_65.gif) (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-love-smileys.php)(http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/animated/anim_65.gif) (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-love-smileys.php)
For some...the ignorance of others can be a blessing! :003:
On the roof.....at the track
I bet that was a real Shelby they cut up.
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Slamming the brakes on at 120 mph, not the safest thing to do.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-08-29 09:18
Slamming the brakes on at 120 mph, not the safest thing to do.
True, but back then, NHRA Stock and Super Stock classes ran off the NHRA National Records, so running too far under the record to win a round could have some serious consequences. Not only could you get disqualified for running under, but your combination could get "hit" by NHRA. Nowadays, that may mean adding weight or possibly getting "bumped" into a new class if the new factor changed your HP to weight ratio enough, but back then, your car fit into a certain class, and had to weigh the correct amount with that factor, there was no adjusting weight to "fit" the top of a class, or the ability to go into a class above or below your natural class. So a few extra HP "gift" from NHRA could change your car from a killer car that fit at the top of a class, to being rendered non competitive by getting knocked to the bottom of the next higher class. That is why, back in those days guys like Cal Method and Taylor & McNicol kept a yard full of various body styles of mid 60s Chevys, if one good combination got hit, they could swap the running gear, from say the 2 door hardtop, and put it into a convertible, Station Wagon, 4 door, etc and be competitive again. With a car like that 428CJ Mustang and 68 Hemi Cuda, not so simple, so saving your combo was quite important. The Mustang could switch slightly, from plain Sportsroof, to GT to Mach 1, and from Ram Air to non Ram Air, but that was about it. You could have extra coupe and convertible shells laying around, but they were much more expensive than say 65-66 full sizes Chevys. There was a famous top end shot of Jim Van Cleves 427 Fairlane with Dave Boertmans "Rod Shop" Challenger at the finish line, with tire smoke billowing from both cars front tires, for that very reason.
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very interesting info !
Quote from: 59meteor on 2020-08-29 10:47
True, but back then, NHRA Stock and Super Stock classes ran off the NHRA National Records, so running too far under the record to win a round could have some serious consequences. Not only could you get disqualified for running under, but your combination could get "hit" by NHRA. Nowadays, that may mean adding weight or possibly getting "bumped" into a new class if the new factor changed your HP to weight ratio enough, but back then, your car fit into a certain class, and had to weigh the correct amount with that factor, there was no adjusting weight to "fit" the top of a class, or the ability to go into a class above or below your natural class. So a few extra HP "gift" from NHRA could change your car from a killer car that fit at the top of a class, to being rendered non competitive by getting knocked to the bottom of the next higher class. That is why, back in those days guys like Cal Method and Taylor & McNicol kept a yard full of various body styles of mid 60s Chevys, if one good combination got hit, they could swap the running gear, from say the 2 door hardtop, and put it into a convertible, Station Wagon, 4 door, etc and be competitive again. With a car like that 428CJ Mustang and 68 Hemi Cuda, not so simple, so saving your combo was quite important. The Mustang could switch slightly, from plain Sportsroof, to GT to Mach 1, and from Ram Air to non Ram Air, but that was about it. You could have extra coupe and convertible shells laying around, but they were much more expensive than say 65-66 full sizes Chevys. There was a famous top end shot of Jim Van Cleves 427 Fairlane with Dave Boertmans "Rod Shop" Challenger at the finish line, with tire smoke billowing from both cars front tires, for that very reason.
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Yes...she did!!! :003:
1958
Custom '57
That cage is something else; I wonder if they're going for a caged lion theme?? At any rate it should keep the claws of the public at bay!
Nah, it was probably to keep the public safe from those damn Hot Rodders!
I found out the picture of Tony Bachiero's '57 Ford was taken Sept 5, 1959 at the Disneyland Car Club Day in the Holidayland section of Disney.
Brazil 1957 Sao Paulo State Police with their new E-codes
WOW, can you believe that !!!!
that sure is a lot of 4dr Custom model E codes !!!!! crazy !
Does anybody know the production numbers of 57 E and F code 57s, and also by body style? Assuming all these Brazilian Police cars were E code Custom 4 doors, you have to wonder if that was a unique special order, and if any North American Police Departments had similar cars.
I read that there was an F code exported to Bolivia, and 2 F codes to San Salvador, but I think one of the posters of this pic on the internet might have heard or hoped they were E codes. I should have stated that.
She loves her '57
You would think because of police or city budgeting most police cars got the c-code 292 or even the upscale 312. The e or f code police cars would be quite rare and an expensive option along with maintenance and dependability issues.
I think the F codes for export were for dignitaries or elites.
And the teapots would've probably put every other one of them on fire, before they could ever catch a criminal on the flight....hahaha :002: :003:
Living the Dream.......
G. in regard to your T-pot comment, I have a E code and have never had a problem, not saying that some day I won't. I have put a lot of miles on it and it performs great. I know there has been a lot issues with carbs, however I think it's a maintenance thing, I keep mine clean and tuned and seem to have a trouble free ride. But then maybe I'm just lucky.
I have owned my 55 Thunderbird since 1969. The carburetor works fine and has never caught fire or cause a fuel spill. Putting a good kit with alcohol resistant parts goes a long way in solving problems. Using the carburetor manual from Holley and taking your time solves the rest.
Alvin, I was just making a (bad) joke. I am sure that many problems come from lack of maintainance. Glad your E is running without problems.
I have only had multiple carbs with 94 Holleys on Flatheads so far, and you just have to choose good straight cores/carbs or it will tend to leak all the time.
8 prototypes of Front Wheel Drive 1958 Thunderbirds were supposedly built. Here are a couple of diagrams of the design.
Interesting...they seem close to what we see today.
Getting ready to race
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-09-06 05:59
Getting ready to race
It looks like that "Cammer" would be a difficult engine to work on in the car. The car still has a rear view mirror, and working vent windows! Looks like it just has a single roll bar hoop, "no full cage or window net". It's a wonder anybody lived through the early days of drag racing. The safety rules had not yet been written.
John
The must have had a doghouse to access the engine between rounds. Also running 90% nitromethane would have made it a pretty wild ride. Best years in drag racing in my opinion.
On the line.....
#92
59meteor, "E" model Fords were built at most of FoMoCo larger plants, but all suppercharged 57 Fords were built at Dearborn. From my research in the 1980s this is what I've found 1207 suppercharged Fords were built, but not all carried the "F' engine code 212 "F" code Thunderbirds were built, but 20 "D" code suppercharged t-bird invoices have been found (All built April 14/15, 1957 ) 2 Rancheros, one was a "F" code other belived to be a "D" code both built April 15, 1957, the following are all "F" codes ,20 Retrackables, 1 station wagon, 50 Police cars for the Minneapolis police department (When the cars were sold the suppercharges were removed) , 6 possibly 7 convertibles 76B.
1964
Nice old dealership
Strange...looks more like a department store/clothier than a car dealership with all the mannequins in the window.
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-09-05 06:48
8 prototypes of Front Wheel Drive 1958 Thunderbirds were supposedly built. Here are a couple of diagrams of the design.
I am not sure why the project was pulled but I was told a long time ago that the reason the engine of the 58-60 Thunderbirds sits so far forward in the engine compartment was to accommodate the front wheel drive.
Quote from: cokefirst on 2020-09-10 14:34
I am not sure why the project was pulled but I was told a long time ago that the reason the engine of the 58-60 Thunderbirds sits so far forward in the engine compartment was to accommodate the front wheel drive.
Good catch. After doing some research, I now discovered that Hale Brothers was a department store, and housed KPO radio station on the upper floor and its antenna on the roof, and must have made extra money on Ford advertisement displays.
TUCSON
1952
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1959
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I'm glad to see you back Joe ! ^^^
Yea Joe...me too! ^^^ Thought we were gonna have to send the St. Bernard's with those little casks under their chins looking for you! :dog8:
yes Joe, that wild and setback 34 Coupe warms my heart ! WOW lots of things going on in the pic. Probably a Flathead with the 3 pipes, but maybe a Cad or early Olds ? Its interesting that the body is a 34 5wd with a 34 hood, but thats a 33 grilleshell ! ON race cars you find the most interesting stuff.
Thanks guys, just a little busy, and I kinda got into a little funk with my dads 1 year anniversary on September 11th. Rest assured, I hadn't ventured too far....
Yeah, some of the old pics are wild, sure they may have a "Hemi" in them, or mismatched parts,but some of the stuff is just flat out cool! Hell, isn't that what "Hot Rodding" is all about?
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-09-14 14:46
Thanks guys, just a little busy, and I kinda got into a little funk with my dads 1 year anniversary on September 11th. Rest assured, I hadn't ventured too far....
Yeah, some of the old pics are wild, sure they may have a "Hemi" in them, or mismatched parts,but some of the stuff is just flat out cool! Hell, isn't that what "Hot Rodding" is all about?
Understood...you and your dad had "that" relationship. for years mine was Dec 26th...my grandfather's b-day, after he passed. We all have our twangs from time to time.
Welcome back! :006:
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Watch out for dogsleds !
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1953
Strange but I envision that most if not all garages looked like the one shown in post#4702. As Hugh can attest mine doesn't look much different now except for the cement floor and the unfinished sheet rock, and...I guess mine looks a lot different. Great picture.
Looks like a "working" garage to me. One that has no grinding dust or paint spots on the walls is a storage facility.
I'm going to have to guess he is not going to be the owner/driver of that coupe. As tall as he is he would be folded up in that thing like a cheap billfold! I'm 6'2" and do not have an early coupe or roadster because I do not like being cramped up. If it ain't fun to drive there is no need to have it! That's why my street rod is a sedan, I can stretch out in that bad boy!
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Quote from: Ford Blue blood on 2020-09-16 08:43
I'm going to have to guess he is not going to be the owner/driver of that coupe. As tall as he is he would be folded up in that thing like a cheap billfold! I'm 6'2" and do not have an early coupe or roadster because I do not like being cramped up.
He is standing on the running boards, so he's probably 6" shorter lol.
Re; 4699 Was that photo taken at Beaver Springs?
Fairbanks
Quote from: SkylinerRon on 2020-09-16 21:52
Re; 4699 Was that photo taken at Beaver Springs?
Not sure, it was posted on another site by a guy from Laguna Beach with no info.
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that's how I like my 39/40 chebberwalkie Delivery ! Trailing along... :003:
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kinda hard tell. Is that Rock Hudson.
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Running a V860 in 1955
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Daytona
'60 Merc Commuters are about the most beautiful wagon ever built. except for a 57 Ford wagon that is :002:
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-09-20 07:28
VOTE
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Enjoying travel in their '58
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and that is not an American license plate....hahaha....looks pretty righthanddrive blokeness to me. No offense. I have several good friends in the UK and Oz. they are nuts. :003:
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Could that be the famous "first" Mustang sold?
That's the one. 5F08F100001.
Sold to an airline pilot in St. Johns Newfoundland, Captain Tucker, I believe.
Yep...by mistake if memory serves. :-[
Ha ! That is hilarious !
the first stylish white Mustang convertible getting sold to a snowy and cold island in the northeast. was that meant as a joke?
you'd rather think it was going to Vegas or California or at least to the Bahamas.
If I remember the story correctly (you can probably google it) the car was never supposed to be sold to begin with. The company got it back a few years later in exchange for another one...and I believe the one in the pic now resides in The Henry Ford. (museum in Dearborn next to Greenfield Village)
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that is another interesting non-US license plate on that 57 ! other cars in pic and scooter appear to be British made. 57 is LHD though. I wonder if this could have been shot on the Bahamas.
the 36 3w above is just pure class !
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-09-24 15:51
that is another interesting non-US license plate on that 57 ! other cars in pic and scooter appear to be British made. 57 is LHD though. I wonder if this could have been shot on the Bahamas.
the 36 3w above is just pure class !
"Barry, Jamaica Independence Day, Aug 1962. Waiting to go on an Outing to Weston Super Mare on the coach in the background."From a profile of Charlie Phillips, photographer and contributor to 100 Images of Migration
What I find interesting in quite a few of these photos are people posing in front of their pride and joy. Even back then a 56 Ford wagon was just a utilitarian vehicle to get the family from point a to b, throw groceries in the back, building supplies or even go camping. They were generally just run into ground and replaced every 4-5 years anyways. I just cant see myself standing in front of our 2014 Escape with the family for picture.........maybe I should.
thank you for the info, Joe !
My pleasure DJ
Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-09-24 20:01
What I find interesting in quite a few of these photos are people posing in front of their pride and joy. Even back then a 56 Ford wagon was just a utilitarian vehicle to get the family from point a to b, throw groceries in the back, building supplies or even go camping. They were generally just run into ground and replaced every 4-5 years anyways. I just cant see myself standing in front of our 2014 Escape with the family for picture.........maybe I should.
You mean like this?
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I believe people were proud of their investment, which was a lot of money at the time. I think we need to remember that until World War II and into the late 1940s, many Americans did not own cars. People lived in cities and towns, and 40 percent did not own cars but used public buses, trolleys and trains.
Soon after the war, a surge in low cost, mass-produced houses occurred outside cities to accommodate returning soldiers and their growing families. The new housing pattern was accompanied by the National Interstate Highway System, which was started in 1956. During the next 50 years, 46,876 miles of highways
were built across America. Americans then could live in affordable suburbs in houses built on cheap land, and they could commute to their now distant jobs with cars.
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That looks like one armed and dangerous person who is guarding that custom 300. It's well protected.
Here's my Mustang in 1970-71-72... I'm amazed it still has the original block in it.
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Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-09-25 21:27
Here's my Mustang in 1970-71-72... I'm amazed it still has the original block in it.
....and that's what makes it worth all the money! :002:
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Changing a flat
My 1970 429 SCJ 4-speed Ranchero. Another I wished I'd never sold. Picture was taken at Bremerton Raceway in around 1985.
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Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-09-26 11:17
My 1970 429 SCJ 4-speed Ranchero. Another I wished I'd never sold.
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And thus...the explanation of why I have cars that have been following me around for 40+ years waiting patiently for me to spend time with them! LOL!!!
Smokey Yunick 1969 Boss 302 Mustang TransAm
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The body is a 69, or at least the front end is a 69.
69 has the side scoop right behind the door handle
Except on a Boss car. They did not have the scoops.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-09-26 20:00
The body is a 69, or at least the front end is a 69.
Correction made, it is a '69. I had copied and pasted the title from the picture, not realizing that they had even spelled his name wrong.
As mustang6984 pointed out, the author probably assumed it was a 1970 because of the lack of fake quarter panel side scoops.
Finland WW2
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-09-26 23:45
Except on a Boss car. They did not have the scoops.
Had no idea....thanks for the enlightenment.
Forever Flatheads
Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-09-26 11:17
My 1970 429 SCJ 4-speed Ranchero. Another I wished I'd never sold. Picture was taken at Bremerton Raceway in around 1985.
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Randy, that shot must have been in 1988 or possibly 89, at , I assume the Bremerton ''All Ford Drags''. Thats the rear of my Fairmont in the top of this photo, and I only raced it with its factory redish brown paint for a couple of years before its was painted blue in late 1989. In 1985, I would have raced my Pastel Blue 428CJ 4 speed Mach 1, in 86, my black 69 428CJ auto Mach 1.(sure wish I still both of those cars today!).
I do remember your blue Mach 1 but not your Fairmont. I guess I must have gone twice to that event. To bad they don't hold the Ford drags anymore, or even the Ford only race at Mission was fun to Attend.
Randy, in all these years, you never seen my Fairmont? I have been racing the same Fairmont since 1988, after buying it in 86. It's been at all the Mission Mega Ford races. and every 2 day Bremerton All Ford Drags since 88.
I've seen your Fairmont lots of times I just don't ever remember it being red. Funny, one of my favorite cars at Bremerton was a 69-70 Mercury Colony Park wagon. Green with the faux woodgrain siding. Pretty healthy 460 in it and I think it ran high 12's low 13's which is respectable for 5000+ lbs. barge.
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Yes, the original paint on my Fairmont was a reddish brown, almost like shiny primer, but I had it painted blue in late 1989. The 69 Colony Park Mercury wagon belonged to Steve Lockie from Washington. I think its best ETs were in the 12.6s , on street tires, with all the A/C, PS etc belts hooked up, very impressive, especially over 30 years ago. I seemed to recall it weighed over 5200 pounds, and I remember him making a by run, and hearing the tires bark on the 2nd to drive shift. A buddy from Vancouver Island bought the wagon in the early 90s, and they put the wagons engine in a 69 Mustang, don`t know whatever became of the wagon after that. Kinda a shame, that wagon was very clean, and a great sleeper.
Here's a photo of Steve's Mercury Colony Park wagon at Seattle International Raceway
No idea why the photo of the wagon is on its side, but if you click on the photo, it is correct. Here's a shot of my Fairmont, also at SIR, when it still has it's factory colour.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-09-26 23:45
Except on a Boss car. They did not have the scoops.
kind of an odd thing...'69 BOSS 9s had the fake side scoops...'69 BOSS 302 and '70 Sport Roof models had no scoops
Quote from: gasman826 on 2020-09-27 14:41
kind of an odd thing...'69 BOSS 9s had the fake side scoops...'69 BOSS 302 and '70 Sport Roof models had no scoops
That idiot Knudsen was to blame. He didn't like the scoops. But then...he was a bow-tie guy to begin with...so...there is a question as to his upper end content.
Quote from: 59meteor on 2020-09-27 13:49
Here's a photo of Steve's Mercury Colony Park wagon at Seattle International Raceway
Well done, that's the one!
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Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-09-27 14:48
That idiot Knudsen was to blame. He didn't like the scoops. But then...he was a bow-tie guy to begin with...so...there is a question as to his upper end content.
Actually, my understanding is that is was Larry Shinoda, not Knudsen that wanted the dummy scoops removed on the 69 Boss 302 Mustangs. Supposedly he did not like non functional items on a car. No idea why he allowed them to stay on the Boss 429, and every other Mustang fastback for 69. In 70, no Mustangs had the dummy scoops on the 1/4 panels, but every 70 Mustang body style did get 2 small dummy scoops per side,on the outside of the headlights. The 69/70 Shelby Mustangs must have really bothered Shinoda, they had more scoops than a Baskin Robbins store, with nearly all of them non functional !
LOL! Nice analogy on the scoops! :003:
Shinoda was of course Knudsen's guy. They both slept in bow-ties at night. No idea why the 429 survived intact. The '69's were already heading for production in the base model I believe wen they came on board. Might be off on that bit something rattling around in the back of my mind seems to be saying I had heard that somewhere.
Neither of them was around very long I know that.
I wonder how the Shinoda Boss Mustang of the mid 90s came about, maybe Larry Shinoda came back to Ford?
Dunno...he died in '97.
Another bit of trivia, Knudsen went on to design the German ( Cologne ) built Ford 'Knudsen' Taunus, from 1971 or so. It looked a bit like a scaled down LTD ( on the snout).
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The blue two-door has a nice stance with its tires and wheels. Attractive, I like it.
Here's another I should never had sold. Bought it in around 1976, so I would have been around 19 years old. Very well optioned car except for the standard equipment wheel covers. Also the placement of the antenna, most were on the passenger front fender.
As far as 69 Boss 302's not having scoops and Boss 429's with them it may have had to do with when Shinoda was hired by Ford. Besides the 302 being his personal project Boss 429 production started in early January 69 while the 302's started middle of April 69. I think he was hired in early 69, maybe not enough time to make the changes. I personally like the side scoops and the 69 body style with the 4 headlight grill a little better than the 70.
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Nice '55
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Any info or side pics on this, Joe? I assume it's a concept Thunderbird?. Trying to read the out of focus license plate.....looks like "the performer"?? Looks like a cross between a 67 Dodge Charger and a Camaro. Clean lines looks like something I'd really like.....just a different color.
I prefer the '69 with the scoops and quad lights too. Only first gen Mustang to have the 4-eyed front end. It looked much more "muscular" to me than the '70. JMHO.
there you go Rich. It's rather a Ranchero with a T bird styling grille. I think it s cool.
QuoteFord?s Saucy ?69 Show Truck: The Ranchero Scrambler
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Yes, the Ford Scrambler, 1969. A concept truck based on a Ranchero
"The American car show scene was red hot in the late 1960s, and Ford Motor Company answered the call with a nifty custom pickup for 1969, the Ranchero Scrambler.
As the youth and performance scene blossomed in the late '60s, the car show circuit became an important marketing theater for the Motor City carmakers as they charged off in hot pursuit of younger, image-minded buyers. One eyeball-grabbing effort from the Ford Motor Company was the 1969 Ranchero Scrambler, and we think the look still holds up today, all things considered.
The Scrambler earned its name, we can safely presume, from the twin Rupp Scrambler minibikes stowed in the pickup bed-a feature that was guaranteed to catch the attention of teenagers on either side of legal driving age. Well played, Ford Motor Company. Based on a production Ford Ranchero, the Scrambler featured extensively customized sheet metal, with a tunneled rear window glass and a restyled front doghouse that was shared with another Ford show car that season, the Fairlane-based Super Cobra Sportsroof.
Under the familiar Shaker hood scoop was a 428 CID Cobra Jet V8, coupled to a C6 three-speed automatic transmission with its console-mounted shifter nestled between a pair of black vinyl bucket seats. Goodyear F60 Polyglas tires rode on Kelsey Hayes Magstar 15x7 wheels borrowed from the Shelby Mustang parts bin, dressed up with custom center caps wearing the Ranchero longhorn emblem.
After a debut at the 1969 Chicago Auto Show in March, the Scrambler was then displayed in the truck section at the Detroit Auto Show (below) and other venues throughout the year. What eventually became of the Scrambler is unknown to us, but at some point it reportedly wore a NASCAR-style King Cobra nose before it finally disappeared for good. Too bad. We think the Scrambler would make a tasty and distinctive street rod today-with or without the matching minibikes."
Thank you Joe and Guenter. Yep, I still like it, although it still screams 68 Charger to me. 428 must have made it a heck of a drive.
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Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-09-29 07:32
Thank you Joe and Guenter. Yep, I still like it, although it still screams 68 Charger to me. 428 must have made it a heck of a drive.
My first thought was the front looks like a cross between a 68 Cougar and a current Challenger.
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The long long trailer ^^^
Oh it is scary to think of that trailer being towed down the road by that car! :help:
LOL, do you think that might be a little weight on that tongue of the trailer axles that far back?
I think they call it "the tail waggin the dog".
looks crazy , which it certainly is. But.... when you look closely you can see the trailer extending to the back behind the fuel pump. there is another 'oval' shaped window, probably another door. so the trailer might be well balanced on a centered axle.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-09-30 13:12
I think they call it "the tail waggin the dog".
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
uh huh!
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Sunliner fun
is this special order or a repaint, or was the Skyliner really available in solid Cumberland green? it looks terrific !
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-10-01 05:10
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Found this on the Yunick Boss 302 - The car you see in the photo below has lived an interesting life. It began as a production Mustang with a 428ci FE engine and was then plucked from the line and chosen to be built as a Trans-Am race car by the people are Michigan's Kar Kraft. Kar Kraft was not officially part of Ford but they were a back door operation. They built lots of race cars for the company, did the Boss 429 conversions, and handled many special projects. When they got hold of this Mustang, it was modified with big Lincoln disc brakes on all four corners, a legal Trans-Am roll cage, light magnesium racing wheels, a full tilt race Boss 302 engine with twin 1,050 Holley Dominator carbs, big honking sway bars, boxed factory suspension components that were relocated for improved geometry, and a host of other work to make the car very capable on the road courses where it would comp
You have to question two Dominators on a 302 cubic inch motor. Makes you wonder if they track tested two 390, 600, 750, cfm carbs or did they throw the kitchen sink at at it?
I kinda thought that was a lot of carbueration (sp?) for a small block too...but I am not by any means a race motor builder so didn't know for sure.
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With an engine that has 50 gallon garbage can lids for valves, raised exhaust ports and a big cam that is not too much carb. My Boss 302 in competition form ran an 850 CFM and probably could have used more. I ran a stock Ford 289 "Lemans" cam (solids), long tube headers with passenger side exhaust exit, 427 triple valve springs, roller rockers with a valve cover Ford made to tie the studs down, Mallory dual point distributor ( 4 lobe cam), 11:1 pistons and a 10 quart oiling system. The cam jumped alive at 3200 and pulled it's guts out to 8500. Yup, IMHO I do believe the 1050 was most likely the correct size for competition.
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LOL!!! Not making friends! LOL!!!
Joe, you better delete or replace post #4803 asap, or you'll risk some good smites from the Old Ford Pic gang... :003:
Woops! My bad, '38 Chevy...
Thanks DJ, I copy and paste these pics into 3 different forums on the same named threads...
This one should have been in the Random picture Thread....
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Classy lady
That old cabover reminds me of the 47 Dodge cabover wrecker at the neighborhood garage I worked at in the mid 60's.
I think those old trucks were bulletproof.
Ron.
We had a '48 Ford wrecker at the junkyard I ran during the summer of '66. That old girl would pull like a bear with the 337 and 2 speed rear. Merrill's Used Auto Parts, Old Orchard Beach, Maine.
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A good friends super build....Eaton Equipped.
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Another friend bought a new ride... super cream puff.. 40k original.
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^^ Very nice. Stick shift to boot. ^^
Hey Jeff.............I see a Texas sticker on that '55?? Reminds me of Gillett from Childress.
Gotta ask...with such an awesome build, do you know why is it being what looks like final assembly when the inside floors/firewall were left untouched? Possibly to show proof of how rust free it was?
The Merc is gorgeous!
Has a I-beam axle so I take it it's going to be a gasser? With a stout Y-block in it also.
beyond nice, Jeff !
The Merc makes me want to cry of joy. Pure class and the condition must be phenomenal. Those early 60s Merc interiors are second to none. those two or even tripletone seats are so pretty !
^ Both really nice rides!
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Yes. the 56 was indeed Larry Grillets car and purchased after his passing.The interior is out at the moment because of insulation being applied.
That car has been in this state when Larry was alive.
I remembering seeing it first in 04 .... it is a VERY clean southern car.
At any rate... pretty sure it has been fired and very near completion by now.
Yes Gunther,.. I agree.... that Merc is a true one owner,little old lady car.
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Nice looking 39! But then again, I?m a little partial
Yea Joe.. its my Pal and fellow CC Member....Robert's "39.. he has a stable of outstanding Fords......
Jeff, keep it down please !!! you don't want us to have a heart attack do you?
wow..... great ole Fords! the light grey 39 sdn has it going, flippers stripes and all. and that flamed 57 Fairlane.... I have never seen before. a wild 1950s ride !
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Jeff, whoever took this pic. it is pure art ! this is haunting me! too wild. the aggressiveness of the camera angle is just wild!
slightly out of focus just adds to the scene. nose pointed down. crewcut haircuts. perfect race rival. this is it ! :004:
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Sunoco service
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Well...I am putting one in my Delivery Joe. Does that qualify as a "station wagon"? LOL!!!
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Somebody at the Ford marketing department is fudging the horsepower ratings a bit. 429 SCJ 375, Boss 429 375 hp and 390 in the ad 375.
'55 Sunliner
375 might have been real. Remember the HP 352s that put out over 300. The Z motor was an honest 300, Street Rodder built three 390s many years ago, one was a stock spec Z except the pistons were 9.5.1 instead of the factory 10.1. It put out a little over 300 in stock trim except the dyno headers.
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I think by the late 1960's the factory advertised horsepower ratings were all over the board.
Insurance companies were basing the insurance premium's on horsepower. We saw the same thing happen in the motorcycle industry. The high performance crotch rocket models became "very expensive" to insure for the owners to obtain the financing necessary to purchase a new bike.
I'm certain that the NHRA also had a impact on why the manufacturer would understate the advertised horsepower for the then popular stock and superstock classes.
John
Peter Lorrie
Peter Lorre was born Peter Loewenstein in the Austrian empire in the early 1900s. That neat family pic in front of the 57 made me do research and it is tragic to learn what happend to them, especially seeing Peter's pride with his daughter. the couple disbanded after 12 years in 1962, Peter died from a stroke in 64, Annemarie Brenning in 1971 from alcohol abuse and their daughter Cathy in 1985 age only 32 from diabetes.
Still the pic with the 57 seemed to be a time when they were happy.
Peter Lorre is one of my father's favorite actors, so I can't even remember a time when I did not hear or know about Lorre. Also interesting to see him next to a 1935 Ford cabriolet. Wonder if this was his private car or just a szene from a movie.
I always thought he was of Hungarian decent. Laszlo, his given first name is about Hungarian as it gets.
Wife didn't look all that happy in the pic. Kinda scowling.
I wonder if that's my Sunliner.....LOL
Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-10-12 10:45
I always thought he was of Hungarian decent. Laszlo, his given first name is about Hungarian as it gets.
"Peter Lorre (born Laszlo Lowenstein; 26 June 1904-23 March 1964) was a Hungarian-American actor of Jewish descent. Lorre began his stage career in Vienna before moving to Germany where he worked first on the stage, then in film in Berlin in the late 1920's and early 1930's"
Lorre left Germany when Adolf Hitler came to power. His second English-language film, following the multiple-language version of M (1931), was Alfred Hitchcock's The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934) made in Great Britain. Eventually settling in Hollywood, he later became a featured player in many Hollywood crime and mystery films. In his initial American films, Mad Love and Crime and Punishment (both 1935), he continued to play murderers, but he was then cast playing Mr. Moto, the Japanese detective, in a B-picture series.
From 1941 to 1946, he mainly worked for Warner Bros. His first film at Warner was The Maltese Falcon (1941), the first of many films in which he appeared alongside actors Humphrey Bogart and Sydney Greenstreet. This was followed by Casablanca (1942), the second of the nine films in which Lorre and Greenstreet appeared together. Lorre's other films include Frank Capra's Arsenic and Old Lace (1944) and Disney's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (1954). Frequently typecast as a sinister foreigner, his later career was erratic. Lorre was the first actor to play a James Bond villain as Le Chiffre in a TV version of Casino Royale (1954). Some of his last roles were in horror films directed by Roger Corman.
Thanx Joe.
My pleasure...... :002:
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You can see Gene Snow's Dodge Dart, Rambunctious, in the background. He was a pioneer in the funny car field, but a man with a disturbing past.
Disturbing is putting it mildly...
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that is both correct. Hungary was part of the Austrian empire until 1918. Emperor Franz Josef was both the Emperor of Austria and King of Hungary. So Loewenstein was born Hungarian in the Austrian Empire. But he wasn't even born in Hungary, but in a region that now belongs to Slovakia. The shifting of borders and states and ethnical groupes in Central Europe is very complicated over the past centuries. It can be very confusing. Ferdinand Porsche f.e. was Austrian (not German), but born in nowadays Czech Republic. Nikola Tesla was Austrian but born from a Serbian family in Croatia. :003:
Empires like ancient Rome or later the Austrian Empire were not so much about ethnical or national by language. but more of political and economical influence. I believe the Austrian empire had several dozens of 'accepted' languages.
I don't mean this as a political statement at all, which we don't want to discuss on this board. It's just highly interesting to learn about peoples background like Lorre/Loewenstein. I am sorry I missed the part with him being born Laszlo, my bad.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-10-12 10:45
I always thought he was of Hungarian decent. Laszlo, his given first name is about Hungarian as it gets.
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Gene Snow....Pedophile..... That dick head should burn.
Just had a quick look at the Wikipedia story on Gene Snow and I had no idea. I agree, life in prison would be too good for him.
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390 4 speed
pretty quick off the line ! :003:
Watch this guy tear through the field from the back of the pack in a dinosaur! Pure 427 sideoiler power at it's finest, screaming past Porsches at 7,000 rpm's, singing all the way...makes me wish I didn't sell my last two 427's a few weeks ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-dl1_V8yds&feature=emb_logo
Outstanding Joe!!!!
That was killer!
I was watching his consistent shifting.... 7k and shift points at 7500.
Amazing. and thank you!
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Joe that makes my nipples rock hard!
amazing !
Like you guys said, couldn't get my eyes off the tach. especially on the downshifts, he had religiously stuck the pointer to the set 7.4 mark. and that big hunka love would pull anywhere from 2.5 up.... :003:
now I need some sleeping pills or mild tea to calm down. :001:
I'm in lust, love and longing for one!!! SWEET! :burnout:
Thanks guys, it's kinda cool seeing a "lightweight" 3400+ lb. car overtaking cars half it's weight.
When I built my 427 w/Weber 48 IDA's I was very disappointed at first, but after many, many hours of dialing them in with a good friend who raced 427's for many years, I changed my mind.
I think it was about 1 or 2 o'clock in the morning and we had been unsuccessfully tuning them for days, when after about 20 test drives we finally got the jetting and balance right. Know keep in mind, this guy is a national record holder who ran a Pro-Mod Mustang at 7.497 @ 155.08 and had an ERA dual quad 427 Cobra that belonged to Bob Tasca that was insanely fast. Now he's at the wheel of my Cobra and punches it and breaks the tires loose at close to 100 mph when he turns and looks at me and says to me, I hate to say this Joe, but I think this thing is faster than mine.
God, these were fun motors and after watching that video, I wished I had kept at least one.
My 427:
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I wish you had too...I'd have loved a ride in one! Never have enjoyed that pleasure!
More 427 action, this one starts a little slow because of the pace car lap, but watch the rear view mirror once the hammer drops @ 4:34... the Corvettes disappear and that damn glovebox just hates the torque of that sideoiler....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU26_YNK9vA
This Holman Moody "FE" 427 Mustang scores Pole Position and wins Race at Portland Historic Races Corvette Anniversary...talk about pissing vette owners off, lol'
It's kind of comical watching the extremely rare (only one of 3 built) 427 aluminum block 500 hp ZL-1 Vette nipping at it's ankles like a pesky chihuahua until the Holman & Moody Stang hits the straight and starts shifting that close-ratio Toploader at 7k+!
1929 SEDAN
That's an old pic Dave...back when WA state still had green and white plates.
They did a nice job of cleaning all the grease off the engine compartment...the grease they had to slather on there that is in order to stuff that motor in there to begin with! Bet that little ride ran like a cheetah! :burnout:
It reminds of the 34 Phaeton Jim Green had. The whole flipped up on it, like a funny car. Used to see it as tow vehicle at SIR sometimes.
That would be Jim Green's car. One of many with Ford power. I will give you a shop tour.
Here is the Phaeton Randy. Sadly Jim passed away last year. His museum was over the top.
One of his SOHC powered shop trucks.
The Ranger in back also had a SOHC.
One of his assembly benchs.
Maverick Funny Car body and frame.
I will save the best for last, but have to go to work first. Film at 11.
Terry
:canada:
Thanks for that Terry! That's the one. I never got to his shop for a visit. I think it was in Monroe by Evergreen speedway?
Ford of Britain Merlin engines
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Those are some big motors! v-10s? What were they built for?
fivesevenliter.........Man I'd love to have one of those sohc, as I'm sure everybody else would too! He had some awesome cars...street or strip.
The Packard Merlin: How Detroit Mass-Produced Britain's Hand-Built Powerhouse
BY TERRY DUNN
Few engines throughout history have achieved a near mythical status among its admirers. Fewer still can share credit for the rescue of an entire nation. Perhaps only the Rolls-Royce Merlin engine can claim both distinctions. This is its story.
Few engines throughout history have achieved a near mythical status among its admirers. Fewer still can share credit for the rescue of an entire nation. Perhaps only the Rolls-Royce Merlin engine can claim both distinctions. During the Battle of Britain, it was the Merlin that powered the Royal Air Force Hurricanes and Spitfires that were England's only effective defense against German air attacks. With the battle won, and the engine's reputation thus established, the Merlin would become the stuff of legend and the powerplant of choice for numerous other aircraft.
Even before the 1940 air battles over England, it was apparent that demand for the Merlin was far outpacing Rolls-Royce's ability to produce them. The Ford Motor Company was asked to build 9,000 Merlins for both England and the US. Ford initially accepted the deal, but later reneged. Henry Ford explained that he would only produce military items for US defense. Interestingly, Ford of Britain in Manchester, England ultimately produced 36,000 Merlin engines, beginning at the same time period. Of course, Ford's American factories would indeed become vital to the war effort. They manufactured unfathomable quantities of airplanes, jeeps and other war materiel, but not Merlins.
Following Ford's refusal to build the Merlin, a similar deal was presented to the Packard Motor Car Company. At that time, Packard automobiles were considered the "Rolls-Royce of America" by virtue of their luxury and quality. The company also had experience producing airplane engines and large V-12 powerplants used in speedy PT Boats. Packard accepted the offer from Rolls-Royce and earnestly began preparations to build Merlins at their Detroit factory.
Two Countries Divided By A Common Language
There are many obvious challenges posed by producing a British-designed engine in America. Just the task of converting all of the measurements from metric imperial to US Standard units was daunting enough. This job was made even more difficult by the unprecedented complexity of the Merlin. The 1,649 cubic inch V-12 engine is comprised of more than 14,000 individual parts. It was, and still is, often called -a watchmaker's nightmare.
Engineers at Packard soon discovered that Rolls-Royce did not design the Merlin for mass-production. The manufacturing tolerances were much looser than Packard's standards. This was because Rolls-Royce had never implemented mass-production techniques to their assembly lines. Rather, they employed highly-trained "fitters" to assemble the engines. The fitters filed or otherwise massaged individual parts to achieve a precise fit. They even tightened critical bolts by trained feel, rather than with calibrated torque wrenches. In effect, each Rolls-Royce-manufactured Merlin was a hand-built engine that reflected the company's traditions of premium quality and craftsmanship.
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THIS VINTAGE CUT-AWAY DRAWING PROVIDES A GLIMPSE INTO THE MERLIN?S COMPLEXITY. IT HAS MORE THAN 14,000 INDIVIDUAL PARTS
While Rolls-Royce's manufacturing techniques churned out very high quality engines, they simply didn't jibe with Packard's way of doing things (or Ford in Manchester for that matter). In his book "Not Much of An Engineer", Rolls-Royce engineer Sir Stanley Hooker recalls his introduction to the matter with Ford:
"One day their Chief Engineer appeared in Lovesey's office, which I was then sharing, and said, :You know, we can't make the Merlin to these drawings."
I replied loftily, "I suppose that is because the drawing tolerances are too difficult for you, and you can't achieve the accuracy."
"On the contrary" he replied, "the tolerances are far too wide for us." We make motor cars far more accurately than this. Every part on our car engines has to be interchangeable with the same part on any other engine, and hence all parts have to be made with extreme accuracy, far closer than you use. That is the only way we can achieve mass-production."
Like Ford, Packard was obligated to redraw all of the Merlin blueprints to satisfy their own manufacturing requirements. This effort took the better part of a year to complete and was closely coordinated with Rolls-Royce emissaries in Detroit. During the time that Packard was gearing up for production, Rolls-Royce was making continuous improvements to the Merlin based on feedback from the front lines. These updates also had to be incorporated into Packard's operation. This continual two-way exchange of data took a heavy toll on the men tasked to manage it. Of the two original Rolls-Royce liaisons at Packard, one died during his tenure in Detroit and the other perished soon after his return to England.
Packard's licensing agreement prevented them from implementing any changes to the design of the Merlin without approval from Rolls-Royce. There was an understandable need to maintain compatibility and consistent performance among the engines regardless of where they were manufactured. While Rolls-Royce engineers were typically attentive to suggestions from their manufacturing partners, any accepted design changes were applied across all production lines.
One area where the Americans contributed to the greatness of the Merlin was the crankshaft bearings. US aircraft engine manufacturers had determined that a silver-lead alloy with indium plating provided long wear and exceptional corrosion resistance. Thankfully, German engineers who evaluated captured American engines falsely deduced that the indium was merely an impurity. Packard shared the secret bearing formula with Rolls-Royce who incorporated it into the Merlin.
The Merlin became somewhat further Americanized by the components that were attached to Packard-built units. Carburetors, magnetos, spark plugs, and similar items were sourced through American vendors and sub-contractors, although they were still manufactured to British specifications.
To maintain compatibility, Packard did not convert any of the bolts, nuts, and studs to SAE dimensions. Rather, they were obligated to use fasteners with Whitworth threads, as specified by Rolls-Royce. Whitworth-form hardware proved impossible to source within the US, so Packard eventually produced all of the necessary fasteners in-house.
The first Packard-built Merlins emerged in August of 1941. As would be expected, there were a few teething problems such as excessive cylinder blow-by and oil leakage. Most historians agree that Packard and Rolls-Royce tackled the issues with a high degree of cooperation. The US-built engines soon performed on par with their English doppelgangers. Packard would ultimately manufacture 55,000 of the 150,000 Merlins that were built.
Unlocking the Merlin's Greatness
Most of the Merlin's built by Packard would find their way into P-51 Mustangs. This American fighter had an uninspiring start, mostly due to the poor high-altitude performance of its Allison V-1710 engine. Once mated to the Merlin, however, the P-51 would be considered among the best aircraft of the war.
The exceptional high altitude performance of the Merlin was due to its two-stage, two-speed supercharger (a development introduced in 1941). This complex device allowed the Merlin to produce the same output power (about 1300 horsepower) whether it was on the ground or in the rarefied air at 30,000+ feet of altitude. Comparable single-stage superchargers of the time often peaked at less than 20,000 feet.
The exceptional high altitude performance of the Merlin was due to its two-stage, two-speed supercharger.
A supercharger works by compressing the fuel/air mixture from the carburetor to sea-level pressure (or higher). So even when the air gets thin, the engine receives the same mass of fuel and oxygen to burn. The Ideal Gas Law tells us that when you compress a gas, you also heat it. The Merlin's two-stage supercharger actually compresses it twice. If left unchecked, heat from the extreme compression would cause poor performance and/or premature detonation of the volatile mixture. To address this, the Merlin uses an independent liquid cooling system to chill the fuel/air mixture following each stage of compression. The additional complexity of this intercooler/aftercooler system is far outweighed by the performance gains it provides.
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Joe that was an awesome read about the Merlin engines ! Thank you !
Yes it was! Thanks Joe.
You're welcome guys! Let me know when I start boring you..... :004:
We are never bored with your posts Joe ^^^
Thanks Joe...as for boring me...yea...sure...I'll let you know...maybe in 40 years...LOL!!! That was a great piece of history.
And who would have know all of the Merlin's that survived the war would someday be considered as surplus and would spend the rest of their time powering Miss Budweiser, and Miss Bardahl hulls on the lakes of America.
John
Damn fine use for them too! Except...maybe figuring out how to stuff one into a '57 Ford Gasser! LOL!!! :burnout:
Local guy back in the day......
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Winter is coming........
Yes winter is coming, in fact its here now. Have about 5 to 6 in. heavy wet snow on ground now, came in yesterday afternoon and last night. Suppose to get our lawn sprinklers blowen out tomarrow, not sure how that will go. way to early for this crap.
UGH! Didn't want to hear that! We are hoping to hit the road this coming week. Trailer is full of our household gear. Snow is not going to be a welcome accessory!
Found these today.
The 2nd pic makes me want to cry...
oh. no.... the 300 2dr seems to have custom pleated upholstery still in it. well the Olds, and theres a 57 Ranch wagon further back, and a Packard. lets dig this up. well, what remains after 60 yrs in salt water
Actually a local photo, Misquamicut Beach in Westerly RI :
"Courtesy Of Andy Hall Cars being buried in the sand along Misquamicut beach. After Hurricane Carol struck in 1954, the owner of the Andrea Hotel bought up flood damaged cars from the area and buried them to strengthen the dunes in front of his hotel. Some were exposed and removed after Hurricane Sandy in 2012. I do not know if any are still there."
One of the Sandy's casualties was the Andrea Hotel. The storm surge undermined the 100 year old building forcing the owners to tear it down. While down in Misquamicut on Wednesday covering the rebuilding effort I spoke with Rebecca Colucci who owns The Andrea with her family. On their Facebook page they have 2 really neat pictures from after Carol and after Sandy. After Hurricane Carol the owner buried a number of cars under the sand to help reinforce the dune that protected the hotel. After Sandy the remnants of many of those cars were unearthed.
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The Andrea Hotel after Sandy:
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Andrea's Hotel and Restaurant on Atlantic Avenue was damaged by the concrete patio that was driven by the waves into the dining room.
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I remember Sandy...what a mess!
In regard to post 4900, in 1970 I was working for road contractor, on I-90, at Chamberland, SD. I was running a D-9 cat and they had me dig a big -big trench and bury about 150 cars, some 30's 40's and lots of 50's. There had been a salvage yard real close to the interstate right away, and the cars had to go away. I really wanted to try and save some of them but they said they all had to go. After I had them in the trench they had me run over them with the 9 a few times, then cover them up. I'v thought about that a lot of times and thought what a waste.
As a young 10 year old kid in Waltham, Mass., I remember Carol!! I remember watching 3 or 4 men in yellow storm gear, carrying lanterns, tied together maybe 5 or 6 feet apart, trying to make their way down the sidewalk pulling themselves along by the fence along side the sidewalk. I also remember the huge elm that almost toppled over, maybe a 45* angle, stopping just feet from my second story bedroom window. The next day my dad and I took a ride down by a few car dealers that had water up to the windows in the car lot. They were by a river off Main Street, close to WATERTOWN. Who woulda guessed? Apparently somebody had a crystal ball.
There was a long thread going on the Hamb about finds in Arizona. Some of them were about old cars that had been buried/piled up in the desert waterways that were normally dry to control floodwaters when they got their occasional storm.
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Tell me I'm right on this one DJ.... :notworthy:
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Nice set-up. Looked really sharp.
1600 Fords given to the residents of Flora, IL to drive for a period of time.
Model T Ford Britain
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Thanks Joe...I needed to look at something pleasant today...that did the trick! :003: :006:
Joe, that really looks good, but I bet that red would really show good in about a foot of snow, so bring it on over. On a side note, check your anti freeze before you come as it has been damn chilly here lately.
I took that picture yesterday. I got out of work @ 3:00 and it was 73 degrees so I decided to go for a ride, seriously, this weather is nuts..
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She looks beautiful Joe ^^^
Thanks Dave!
WOW! I had a car just like that in my yard a few weeks ago and some guy from the New Bedford / Fall River area
got into it and drove it away.
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I was going to take my rowdy beast out yesterday, clear blue sky, 5 Celsius, perfect temperature for the FE to breathe. Came back from lunch and the city was spreading Brine all over the dry roads. Went back in the shop and felt sorry for myself.
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Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-10-25 10:03
I was going to take my rowdy beast out yesterday, clear blue sky, 5 Celsius, perfect temperature for the FE to breathe. Came back from lunch and the city was spreading Brine all over the dry roads. Went back in the shop and felt sorry for myself.
How dare they? Without asking your permission first? Where do they keep their heads? Oh..wait...don't answer that...
1952
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Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-10-25 21:28
Where do they keep their heads? Oh..wait...don't answer that...
Apparently their Plexiglas belly button is fogged up.....
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Cute butts to hide that Chebbie with! Somewhere I've a pic of one of those gals underneath the '57 in the background. Kansas City ?
Yes, The Dragettes of Kansas City
and this is the pic....
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Talk about intense.....there must be finger prints in that steering wheel!
When I first looked at the picture without my glasses on I thought she had a cigarette hanging out of her mouth. Turns out it was just a door handle from the x-brand car beside her.
LOL ^^^ I had to look twice also !
Me too. On the last pic, it looks like the front lower fender is already rusting thru! wonder what year that was. Not only Fords. I added upper front fender caps on my dad's 55 chev conv. in 64.
I'm sure it's probably from somewhere in the salt belt. :deadhorse:
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Could it be Missouri in 1958?
Terry, I think so, looking at 58 plates, I come up with this:
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Picture 4937. Rich l noticed that lower left front fender also. Unfortunately l remember the early 1960's
in Mass that the 50's cars were already starting to rot out, especially the 57 Fords.
I wonder what this one is like now ...if it survived....
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-10-30 09:29
I wonder what this one is like now ...if it survived....
I'm sure she's on Medicare now.
John
:iamwithstupid: lol
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-10-27 18:14
Yes, The Dragettes of Kansas City
and this is the pic....
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<SIGH> Nice pic... :006:
'56 Sunliner
The thing I like about this car is when you climb under the back bumper, it shows all the scrapes from no wheelie bars ever being installed.
Terry
:canada:
Looks like George Preston arena. The Fairlane, Falcon, Comet meet they have is one of favorites. Looking forward to going to it next year, maybe, hopefully....
not really an old Ford pic, but an OLD FORD in a pic.
Been working on this 34 on and off for 5 yrs now, building it for a friend/customer and today we really took it out for a spin. reason for posting this, is. guys if you just heard that flathead V8 purring, romping and a stomping all around the mountains. just - wild ! :003:
Few things make one's blood pressure rie in a good way...but the sound of a purring Flathead...is most assuredly one of them! Lucky you G! :006:
That car is just beautiful Guenter! Very impressive work. What flathead does it have?
Nice car!
When I was a kid, I worked at a Ford Dealership from 1965 to 1971. Charley Walters was the "old guy" mechanic that worked in the service stall next to mine. He brought his lunch, and "a piece of a car" to work on during his lunch hour each day, "every day". After five years, he had a 35, or maybe it was a 36 Phaeton that looked much like the 33/34 you have in your photo. It's a unbelievable amount of work to build a basket case.
Good job Guenter.
Beautiful photography. What's the story on the houses on the hilltop in the background?
thank you guys !
A tremendous amount of hours and money was dumped into this car, and we always wanted it to be a reliable driver, not a show car only.
Like John said it is overwhelming how many small parts make an open Ford Touring car and being it's a RHD Australian built model didn't make parts hunting any easier. The Flathead is a 1940 59A block, bored over .060, stock crank, milled iron heads and a slightly bumpy truck cam. electronic ignition and a single 97. It doesn't sound like much, but it is surprisingly peppy, without the need to over revv it or drown the barrels in gasoline. the 34 also has an inline Mitchell Overdrive, which is one of the greatest features I have witnessed in a prewar car. It gets the most out of the Flathead/39 toploader combo and provides a great rpm drop on the highway. I drove it for 80 highway miles or so constantly at 75mph yesterday. Doesn't matter if flat or uphill. around 2500-2800 rpm is just the sweet spot on this engine and it feels like she wants to cruise around the world literally. So - yes, those are incredibly good feelings and make up for all the hazzles involved before. :001:
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Randy, that is the remains of the ancient Griffen castle in southern Austria. it was built in 12th century AD, and the rock is incredibly steep all around. Makes you wonder how they could carry up all those construction materials back then. today you would probably use a helicopter...when you approach the rock, the stone front is literally vertical in front of you. amazing sight !
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Absolutely gorgeous Gunther! Both your quality of work and the photography is amazing, you should be proud my friend. :003:
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Trick or Treating in the '50s
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-11-01 05:50
Absolutely gorgeous Gunther! Both your quality of work and the photography is amazing, you should be proud my friend. :003:
Agreed for sure, AND I have to keep reminding myself his posts are written by someone for whom English is a second language. Guenter for president.........no wait..too late.
Well thx Rich, but it's better that way anyways. I know that I would try to, but I can't guarantee that I could be equally fair to the GM people as well, I might be slightly biased to the Ford Community... :002:
I hope this is not a political statement. :003:
Great job Guenter, I always love the flatheads !
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That flathead is a work of art! Beautiful work.
Joe...LOVE that pic! LOL!!!
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Looks like that 57 was heavily loaded for a road trip the way the back end is squatting.
Günter
You had your ups and downs (Mostly downs) with this project. There were lots of headaches that had to be corrected. Your customer must be real happy to have it home.
You have that magic touch.
Jay
Thank you very much Jay ! You followed the project over the past 5 years and I molested you ever so often with questions and parts inquiry. It could never have happened without friends like you ! And I mean it !
That's nice to hear guys; especially in this day and age.
Amen
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what a brilliant pic !!!
that Custom must be brandnew, since they even taped off the headlights AND the bumper and grille ! appears even the windshield trim.
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1956
Help me out here guys, not really sure '33-'34 Ford...or what's left of it?
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'34 Ford.....33 and 34 are close......some change in hood louvres, latches, etc. Experts say 60 small differences
Thanks Dave!
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The straight hood louvers reveal a 34, Joe. 33s are curved.
Interestingly enough, this didn't start as a phaeton, but a cut open 4 door sedan ! the cowl top and sides are totally different on those 2 models.
Dave, that roadster is what dreams are made of... :004:
Here's what will keep me busy over the next years.... :005:
X 2 What Guenter stated about the Dune scooter.
Fun in the Sun
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Mission Raceway
Fantastic pic !
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whoa ! gross ! :004:
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'54
Is that you Dave? :006:
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-11-11 08:53
Is that you Dave? :006:
No, but I was about the same age.....lol
410 HP
Picture #4987
Cobra Joe
You have told me enough, and I Know how much you like customised 57 Ford front fenders. When you have some spare time, could you stop by and help me fix mine up like the ones in #4987.
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No problem Jay, for you, anything. :interesting:
I can't even post a tiny picture on here anymore. My "upload folder is full " ?? contact an administrator ???
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-11-13 07:03
I can't even post a tiny picture on here anymore. My "upload folder is full " ?? contact an administrator ???
That is the main reason I use an image hosting site
I think we have a site problem. The last picture posted was yesterday by hemidave at 6:30 something. Multiple people have had the same problem.....Joe see if you can post using your remote site....
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-11-13 09:07
Which site Joe ?
I use Imgur , and I Posted a tutorial on how to use it under General Discussion
Sorry, I can't do that from my phone as I do not remember my password. When I get home in five hours I can try
:deadhorse:
Roger that.....of note, I just posted on the HAMB with no issues at all.
I just signed up on IMJUR, but why should this site change, when I have been posting pics from my files for a long time here with no problem. I had IRFANVIEW on my other computer. It was great for modifying pics, returning them to my file, and posting them here from my files without going through another process......
As I said, the main reason I do it is so I can post full-size pictures. It's also nice As I can use the same link on several different websites that I'm on.
Quote from: Ford Blue blood on 2020-11-13 09:12
I think we have a site problem. The last picture posted was yesterday by hemidave at 6:30 something. Multiple people have had the same problem.....Joe see if you can post using your remote site....
Imgur works...
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Carroll, Dan Gurney and maybe Ken Miles in the furthest away Cobra.
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-11-13 09:33
As I said, the main reason I do it is so I can post full-size pictures. It's also nice As I can use the same link on several different websites that I'm on.
Joe, I'll see if I can find your tutorial, as I will need some help figuring it out ......
No problem Dave, if you need some help, let me know...
Here is a link to the tutorial I posted a while back:
http://57fordsforever.com/smf/index.php?topic=7624.0
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THANKS JOE !!(https://i.imgur.com/62E3kMJ.png)
Dave, did you edit the image you posted above or change it because it is not visible?
If so, you have to use the NEW "BBCode (message boards & forums)". Anytime you resize, crop adjust, etc... a new code is generated making the old code null & void.
This is what I see now:
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This is what was visible last night,(I pulled it off of my phone):
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Which leads me to believe you either edited the pic or used the wrong code
I used the BBCode. That's strange that it appeared last night, and appears to me now. I'll try another pic.
(https://i.imgur.com/OYc6zr6.jpg) '56 SUNLINER
I see it
On "Reply #5010 on: Yesterday at 08:54:42 PM" edit the post and then copy and paste the BB code and see if it shows on our end; also compare the two codes and see if they are identical.
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I cannot see your pictures, can you see mine? Also, can anybody else see them?
No, just the screen shot you posted....
So if I understand this correctly, you can see my pictures, but you can't see hemidaves?
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-11-16 13:22
So if I understand this correctly, you can see my pictures, but you can't see hemidaves?
Yours are visible...Dave's seem to still be in limbo...except for his 5013 post...that one was perfect.
5016 is not visible to me, try refreshing your page and see if it gives you the black, image not available box
Refreshed, no joy....
Not sure what Dave is doing different than what I and others are doing???
(http://i.imgur.com/0O1T9xZ.jpg) (https://imgur.com/0O1T9xZ) ANY DIFFERENCE ?
sweet 38 and couple. nifty flight jacket !
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-11-16 13:46
5013 is not visible to me, try refreshing your page and see if it gives you the black, image not available box
Just now saw your posts.
I logged back in as a guest...then out and back in as member. I can still see Dave's post of the 56 Sunliner aka 5013 post.
I can also see his last pic posted 3:47:41 p.m.
(http://i.imgur.com/WDUklVd.jpg) (https://imgur.com/WDUklVd) '55 Sunliner pic I posted recently #5016 I used the Linked BBcode for the last 2 pics
That's a lot of angel dandruff! :003:
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-11-16 22:16
'55 Sunliner pic I posted recently #5016 I used the Linked BBcode for the last 2 pics
I can see all your pictures except 5010 & 5016, maybe change the link for those two and see if they show up???
(https://i.imgur.com/lWYZxxm.png)(https://i.imgur.com/7Mw3Ego.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/CjDtNj1.jpg) (https://imgur.com/CjDtNj1) 5016 is now 5027 (same pic )
I can't see the picture, only the same black box saying no longer available.
Same here. Dave post your link to the above picture but leave the forward slash ( / ) off the code so I can look at it and maybe see something wrong with it.
(http://i.imgur.com/zem9E3V.png)[url] (https://imgur.com/zem9E3V)
I can see that pic and i see a URL tag, telling me that is wrong.
The tag you should be using should look like this one for the picture below, except I removed the "brackets" from beginning and the end "img"
img http://://i.imgur.com/gxvnWhv.jpg /img
(https://i.imgur.com/gxvnWhv.jpg)
I tried to attach pictures the other day and would not post until I deleted the attachment photos.
(http://i.imgur.com/zem9E3V.png) (https://imgur.com/zem9E3V)
I just tried again and it was kicked out. 226K file size
An Error Has Occurred!
The upload folder is full. Please try a smaller file and/or contact an administrator.
gasman826, looks like hemidave got it figured out; try Imgur
(http://i.imgur.com/g01AU6Q.jpg) (https://imgur.com/g01AU6Q)
(http://i.imgur.com/VcJThAm.jpg) (https://imgur.com/VcJThAm)
Guys you didn't fix the problem of posting pictures, I think you found a way around it. Not much good for us "computer limited" old buggers that find working these machines difficult to impossible. Heck, I don't even have a "smart" phone, too hard to operate, my old Trak flipper for road trips does it for me.
Quote from: Ford Blue blood on 2020-11-18 08:03
Guys you didn't fix the problem of posting pictures, I think you found a way around it. Not much good for us "computer limited" old buggers that find working these machines difficult to impossible. Heck, I don't even have a "smart" phone, too hard to operate, my old Trak flipper for road trips does it for me.
X2
I can't fix a problem on this site, or any other site I don't own, administrate or moderate.
That said, I have been using Imgur image hosting for years; I only posted it as an option for people who like to post full size photos, and in this case offered it as a free solution/option to until the issues with the site.
I even posted a tutorial a year or so ago on her to walk people through using it.
Trust me, I have nothing to gain, I only tried to offer a solution so the site could keep traffic flowing because nothing kills a forum/site more than lack of traffic.
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Joe...hear ya' loud and clear. I sent Rich an idea to try and get it taken care of, but I've not heard back from him. I used to be the mod for another car site years ago...and might be that my idea will work...maybe...
Thanks for the efforts...as always...appreciated! :006:
that last pic looks wild Joe !
there are several more free upload platforms. I often use picr.de.
lets see if this works
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seems it does? :003:
And you get a LOT more than 4 pics in per set too! :003:
Quote from: Ford Blue blood on 2020-11-18 08:03
Guys you didn't fix the problem of posting pictures, I think you found a way around it. Not much good for us "computer limited" old buggers that find working these machines difficult to impossible. Heck, I don't even have a "smart" phone, too hard to operate, my old Trak flipper for road trips does it for me.
Try this:
http://57fordsforever.com/smf/index.php?topic=7624.0
(http://i.imgur.com/5GhTlx3.png) (https://imgur.com/5GhTlx3)
Dave, no pic. bawl
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1954 Ford conv found in an abandoned mine in South Dakota (http://i.imgur.com/1doXM1j.jpg) (https://imgur.com/1doXM1j)
(http://i.imgur.com/gh46r3B.jpg) (https://imgur.com/gh46r3B)
(http://i.imgur.com/As4Rruo.jpg) (https://imgur.com/As4Rruo)
Too cool
Hoffa's body is in the trunk :003:
How did it get down there I wonder? Also wondering if it is restorable? Yea...I know...can't save them all...
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-11-20 10:00
How did it get down there I wonder? Also wondering if it is restorable? Yea...I know...can't save them all...
https://www.hagerty.com/media/news/ford-crestline-sunliner-discovered-in-abandoned-south-dakota-mine/
MORE:
a 100 year old abandoned gypsum mine in South Dakota was suddenly discovered by residents in a residential housing development, as water caused sinkholes to suddenly open into the mine, about 25 feet under the lawns, and a dozen homes are now in the dangerous zone
Weaver also found old vehicles in the cave. Older residents in the county have told him the area was a dump or a landfill at some point.
Christopher Pelczarski is a caver, and he's seen a lot of underground passageways. But he's never seen anything like the abandoned gypsum mine that was exposed by sinkholes this week in Black Hawk.
For one thing, he never expected to find a car down there.
There was one place where there is actually literally a car coming out of a hole from the surface, an old car. It's like a 1950's Ford, Pelczarski said. "Yeah, it's half sticking out of the ceiling, basically.
He figures there used to be a scrapyard or garbage dump on the surface, and the car somehow sank down from there.
?The cavers mapped 2,300 linear feet of passages, Pelczarski said. There were additional tunnels they couldn't access because they were flooded or collapsed. Some of the tunnels were big ? 12 feet high and 40 feet wide.
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Huntrods said construction on the subdivision began in 1992 and was finished in a few years. He provided the name of the developer but the Journal couldn't find any information about the company online. It was in operation from 1910 to 1926 though, according to this
The mine is150 feet wide in the biggest cavern and at least 600 feet long. He said the mine may be longer, but there are collapsed and unstable areas too dangerous to explore.
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Home owner John Trudo said he wants to know if developers or a government agency knew the community was being built on top of an old mine. "Did they know they should not have built on this and somebody turned a blind eye so somebody could make a dollar?"
Thanks Joe... :006:
Great info Joe ^^ (http://i.imgur.com/dDuZiTm.jpg) (https://imgur.com/dDuZiTm)
Thanks Dave, but your link is bad again...
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Nice...uh...car...yea that's it...nice car... :002:
Joe
Those pictures of the gypsum mines under the houses are very scary. It is sad to think that those things were allowed to happen Most likely the builders of the homes and everyone involved are long gone.
Jay.
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Am I the only one who can't see Hemidaves images?
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-11-20 05:02
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This is interesting, I was under the impression that all the 59 Ford style Australian "tanks", used the same grill as my Canadian 1959 Meteor, but this car has a regular Ford grill.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-11-22 09:32
Am I the only one who can't see Hemidaves images?
Nope...some times I can...sometimes I cannot.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-11-22 09:32
Am I the only one who can't see Hemidaves images?
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I can't see them either
I wonder if it's because once I post them, I eliminate them from my images on the IMJUR site... I do that so I won't forget and post them again...lol
(http://i.imgur.com/lLRCpRN.jpg) Let's try this........ (https://imgur.com/lLRCpRN)
Yep...that worked...
Healthy looking...uh...CAR...yea...healthy looking car!!! :003:
I think Joe said one time the images here from IMGUR were basically a link, so with that in mind, I would think deleting them from IMGUR after they are posted here would make them invalid. As a witness to that statement, if you right-click on that REALLY nice image you just posted, and look at the image info, it shows 0 KB.
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-11-22 11:49
I wonder if it's because once I post them, I eliminate them from my images on the IMJUR site... I do that so I won't forget and post them again...lol
That is exactly why. remember I said if you edit it or change it the link goes bad and the picture won't be visible, well you took it one step further, you eliminated the link, lol. :001:
I deleted a picture from Imgur I posted on page 234 of Carroll Shelby and I can still see the image on here.
I'm glad Joe taught me the ins and outs of IMJUR, I appreciate it , and will use it here to post full size pics. On other sites, I can just upload normally from my files, post my pics, they come out full size, and I can eliminate them when I want. Each site does have a different way to post, so I try to go with the flow.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-11-22 16:14
I deleted a picture from Imgur I posted on page 234 of Carroll Shelby and I can still see the image on here.
Like this one?
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You can see it, but we can't. I think if you were to refresh the page, it may disappear.
Looks like they are all gone:
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Well I'll be! I wonder how long it will be before Imgur goes the same way as Photobucket, as in charging for a subscription.
Dave, the picture of the black 59 is great. I'd love to bite into them and pray for lock jaw.
Quote from: alvin stadel on 2020-11-22 19:50
Dave, the picture of the black 59 is great. I'd love to bite into them and pray for lock jaw.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:003:
Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-11-22 18:46
Well I'll be! I wonder how long it will be before Imgur goes the same way as Photobucket, as in charging for a subscription.
It is nothing to do with money, at least for right now, it is simply because you deleted it from Imgur after you used them to host it. If you want your pictures to stay visible to everyone you can not "Delete" them after you post them, they must remain in your Imgur photo album.
If you are concerned that your album might be getting too large, just open up another one under a different email. I currently run four, 1 under mine, another under the wife's, and two others.
Your album should look similar to this: (Note the number of images I have in that album)
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I don't think Imgur would make the same mistake PhotoBucket did.
Imgur makes money.
Not only does Imgur make money today, it has always made money. Founder Alan Schaaf told All Things D in 2012 that the only time that Imgur was ever "in the red" was when he paid the original $7 for the domain name. Since then the site has relied on fundraising, donations, a short-lived premium service, and advertising to stay profitable. For an image hosting site this is a remarkable performance when so many other sites have gone under or have been forced to rely on expensive premium subscription plans to retain users.
Brands can advertise directly:
The advertising on Imgur is on every page but this doesn't mean that it is overwhelming. Imgur runs a single advertisement on each page which provides an opportunity for brands to reach the masses on Imgur cost effectively without disturbing the Imgur user experience. Buying ad space on Imgur is easy and rates are relatively low. So how does Imgur make money with low ad rates and limited advertising space on their pages. That's easy: volume.
?on at least a billion pages a day.
Yes, that's "billion" with a "b". Imgur gets enormous traffic and is ranked among the 50 most visited websites on the planet. And make no mistake: a billion page views is a slow day on Imgur which, in 2015, served up more than 900 billion images to its users. That's an incredibly large audience to reach with clever display ads and for the brand or business that is seeking a way to reach out to the cutting edge of internet and geek culture, Imgur could be the perfect place - and especially if that brand is looking to reach young men.
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Got it now Dave!
Things don't always go as planned
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I want one!!! :003:
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That particular Cobra definetly is looking like a wolf in sheep's clothing! Looks just like the same class as a tr or mg, lol. Is it me?..... this is the first time I've really noticed the flattened flares at the wheelwells. Maybe due to the sun casting heavy shadows.
The original 260-289 Slab sided cars, The next spin off was the 289 FIA w/cut back doors for tire clearance as well as the lower oil cooler and longer roll bar front leg (this is also my favorite Cobra other than the Daytona Coupe!)
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....I think you are used to seeing the 427 Semi Competition cars (S/C) with the big fender flares and the cut back doors
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Thanks for the info Joe
Happy Thanksgiving to you and your families !(http://i.imgur.com/RxBBWtx.jpg) (https://imgur.com/RxBBWtx)
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Wow guys ! quite controversial pics.... 41-57. great. to say the least. that last pic is insane. so many worlds colliding in that single shot. WOW !
love the 57 on Japanese plates !
reminds me of this crazy thing here- USA meets Japan meets Germany..... :003:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1qMMooGf-0
Yvonne Carre - Geisha Twist
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Dave, do you have any further info on the Japanese 57 pic above ? This is a crazy interesting photo to me. A seemingly futuristic American car, with ultra traditional Japanese Ladies, in front of the Greek thinker figure and a European influenced building. Is that kind of a university? Where ?
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-11-28 08:37
Dave, do you have any further info on the Japanese 57 pic above ? This is a crazy interesting photo to me. A seemingly futuristic American car, with ultra traditional Japanese Ladies, in front of the Greek thinker figure and a European influenced building. Is that kind of a university? Where ?
Sorry, I don't have any info on the picture.
Found it ! it's the National Museum of Kyoto!
I can't remember if this one has been posted before?
Something went wrong on the first post, heres the rest.
First one looks fine Dave. Nice shots all three! Thanks.
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DAVE!!! You and your first car? Excellent taste! :003:
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-11-29 12:17
DAVE!!! You and your first car? Excellent taste! :003:
Only the best, and a Sunliner at that ! LOL
Found this today.
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Nice! Can't make out what town that was...but they sure had a lot varied colors in their fleet.
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Welcome back Joe...nice pic too. :006:
??
Joe's not back.
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-11-30 10:27
Nice! Can't make out what town that was...but they sure had a lot varied colors in their fleet.
X2 what Mustang 7503 stated.
Jay
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2020-12-03 12:40
X2 what Mustang 7503 stated.
Jay
Jay....have you heard anything from Joe lately? I'm kinda worried about him....... if he's not home he usually posts from his phone.
1956 Monarch Richelieu, still owned by the original owner's daughter.
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-12-03 16:12
1956 Monarch Richelieu, still owned by the original owner's daughter.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sweet looking ride!
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-12-03 10:24
??
Joe's not back.
Yea...I see that now...low amount of consciousness a the time of that post...I need more sleep! :002:
I believe this is the time that Joe goes hunting I know he has in the past at this time of year. JViera
That Canadian Merc is so pretty ! great photography as well !
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Quote from: jviera on 2020-12-03 20:45
I believe this is the time that Joe goes hunting I know he has in the past at this time of year. JViera
That's good to know, John. Thanks for the input.
Sorry to nitpick but that is not a Mercury, it is a Ford Monarch. Sorta like calling a Kiwi an Aussie.
The picture is on the southern tip of Vancouver Island and has Hugh's old home of Port Angeles in the background.
Nice truck...love the color too!
Holy **** Green, I have been driving it since 1987.
351 Windsor and a C6 automatic.
:canada:.
Sorry about that, should have written
Canadian 'Merc' as I was just referring to the comparable US models. Of course you are right. I am aware of the Monarch Brand, and that the US Fords were Mercury in Canada. I have owned 2 Canadian built Fords before. As a matter of fact I was thinking about buying a 56 Monarch just a few weeks ago, which became available here in Austria, of all places. :002:
btw. you might find it interesting, that the 1962 Mercury Comet I had was built in Canada for export to Europe ( kmh speedo). Yet it was branded 'Mercury'. I think that is interesting to know that Canadian plants obviously made a difference between export and home market. It would be of interest to me, what the Comets were branded in Canada back then.
That shoreline scenery is very, very pretty !
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-12-04 10:14
Sorry to nitpick but that is not a Mercury, it is a Ford Monarch. Sorta like calling a Kiwi an Aussie.
The picture is on the southern tip of Vancouver Island and has Hugh's old home of Port Angeles in the background.
(http://i.imgur.com/UgyErDX.jpg) (https://imgur.com/UgyErDX)
The appropriate name for the green on the truck....................those words actually came out of my mouth when I saw the photo, lol. It's absolutely perfect looking, I think just became my favorite pickup. Thanks for posting that pic, I think I'll print it off, or maybe make it my desktop. (my wife will never notice the neices are gone ::)
Thanks - a lady in a early 60's Cadillac pulled up next to me at a stop light, all her windows were down, I could see her in her door mirror looking back and she said 'Holy Shi* is that green" another time a Mercedes pulls up beside me, an elderly gentlemen with an English accent says, "you didn't leave any green in that can". When I was building it everyone said not green, once built everyone of them changed their opinion.
Comets in Canada were branded Mercury.
Monarch was a rebranded Mercury so Ford dealers had a line to compete with Mercury.
Mercury trucks were made here, some exported to Mexico and South America. I found out after buying two of them that Ford did not put the 255 cubic inch engine in them. They had the same 239 inch flathead as the Ford, but when Mercury trucks were advertised they went by torque rating not by cubic inch.
Coastline, I Google Mapped that site yesterday and see they have built condos there. When the picture was taken, it was wild and untamed.
:canada:
That is the best color for that truck! I love it. I'll fess up now...if it comes up missing one morning when you get up...it'll be on it's way to Missouri! LOL!!! :006:
Green truck is supersweet !!!
Now I have to ask what were the Falcons branded in Canada ? and what about the British Fords like Pop, Anglia and later on the Cortina ?
Any chance the Capri was imported as well ? Any German or Australian built Fords in Canada ?
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-12-05 12:54
Comets in Canada were branded Mercury.
Now here I have a nice bit of trivia for all diehard Ford guys. :001:
That is obviously Henry Ford II in that pic, but I hear you say, whats that eggshaped thing he is stepping in ??
a 1960 German Compact Ford called the 17m Taunus P3 ( 1.7Litre L4), which originally was designed in Dearborn as the 'Cardinal'. But obviously dropped from the US line because of the introduction of Falcon and Comet.
The saying goes that German Chancellor Konrad Adenauer picked up Henry Ford and they were expected to use Adenauers staff car, a luxury Mercedes Benz.
Somehow. Only somehow, something 'went wrong' with the Mercedes, and Ford Cologne sent 3 brandnew Taunus 17m to pick up and escort Mr Ford and Mr Adenauer to the German Ford works that day. :002: As seen in photo below. That's some oldschool PR work ! :003: :004:
(https://autode-static.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Ford-Taunus-17M-P3-Badewanne-1960-8lo4.jpg)
Falcons were branded Ford.
British Fords were British Fords, we had Anglia, Cortina and Lotus Cortina. Have not heard of Pop.
Capri was available through Mercury dealers. There were a few Taunus' here but I do not think they were bought through a dealer.
This is what I started with. It was given the name Potato Truck because it was brown and lumpy.
Flathead, three speed on the column, nice little stocker. I was backing up and the shifter pushed the main wiring harness into the fuse box and the wires in the middle of the pack melted. So in went the Windsor, C6, disc brakes, new paint, new interior. It did win a Goodguys Trick Truck award, and is still getting tons of attention, even though it was finished 22 years ago.
:canada:
Yea...strange how little incidents or findings can change the direction of a car/truck rehab. My buddy and I were going to do a quick clean up and drop a motor into my Courier in spring of '16 and then head to MI for the Woodard Dream cruise (he was 73 at the time and that is on his bucket list) We were two days into it when we found the floor was toast front of the storage box and the wiring was worse than I thought...and the motor we were gonna use was in no shape to go anywhere near motor mounts.
Now...I am relocating to MO, he is coming with us..we adopted him cause his kids are...well...yea you know...and so we will be trying to get it done to head up there hopefully in '22. Luckily he is in better health than some 57 year olds I know.
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-12-04 10:41
Holy **** Green, I have been driving it since 1987.
351 Windsor and a C6 automatic.
:canada:.
Reminds me of the green on the label from Old Style beer. :003:
Was a guy in Deep Cove in the 60's where I grew up that had flat bottom boat that was that color green. Had an Olds engine in it and he called it "Olds Style" painted in the same script. Thought it was pretty funny.
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Close to the colour, I did wear my Old Style shirt when I spoke at our friend Henry's funeral.
thanx for the interesting info !
I wonder why the Canadian Ford HQ or whoever chose such a diverse marketing strategy.
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-12-05 18:19
Falcons were branded Ford.
British Fords were British Fords, we had Anglia, Cortina and Lotus Cortina. Have not heard of Pop.
Capri was available through Mercury dealers. There were a few Taunus' here but I do not think they were bought through a dealer.
(http://i.imgur.com/eNmIPzO.jpg) (https://imgur.com/eNmIPzO)
Del Rio day.
I know it is sort of a "utilitarian" color scheme...but I like the brown and white myself. And of course the 2-door Del Rio is just perfect!
Hugh, I guess I get what you mean by utilitarian for the 'brown'. Do you know an actual car in that color in person ? You would even like it better! of course, when the paint gets old and dull it gets looking very drab and odd, but the og mint Silver Moccha is a vibrant color that changes between nearly black in the shade, to maroonish and to a copper colored honey-gold depending in daylight or sun!
They called it a 'Poly' (metallic) paint then. ( not one of those modern rainbow colored tints).
Unfortunately my CS has had huge areas repainted but some areas remain og paint and the color and sheen is really sweet. Unfortunately those early paints weathered pretty quickly.
I always wanted a Silver Mocha/Colonial White Del Rio, but instead got my black/silver (og inca gold/colonialW) Del Rio. But when I found my Country sedan and the Vin tag said KE2 color (Silver Moccha/colonial) and AZ trim ( colonial vinyl/gold thread fabric/brown panels), and the car was still in those colors... I flipped.... :003:
My cousin had one just like that in 1964. Two strombergs on a JC Whitney adapter on a 272!
The 57 Plymouth being pushed is Wally Park's. Founder of the NHRA.
G...I don't know anyone with that color scheme...heck...don't even know anyone in my world who has one. But back in my past there was one I used to come across regularly.
I agree the mint green is a beaut as well.
By "utilitarian" I meant that it was a pretty common color...that wasn't a real beauty...but I liked it for it's subtlety...under the radar sort of appearance.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-12-03 14:20
Jay....have you heard anything from Joe lately? I'm kinda worried about him....... if he's not home he usually posts from his phone.
Rich
The last time I talked to Joe everything was OK. He even drove his 39 to my place to to show it to me. I was all over it and under it, and it's one real clean all steel car. I'll call him again and get back to you. Jay
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Hugh, there is some misunderstanding between us. I meant mint in 'brandnew' Silver Mocha. That is the brownish color you were referring to. its basically exactly THAT.
SILVER
and MOCHA.
metallic coffee brown.
It sure might look like a drab sort of color, and I am sure many of those cars back then went dull after one long winter or so. because of the huge amount of aluminium pigment in those early metallic paints (single stage, sans clear topcoat).
What I am trying to say is, that the original 57 brown - called Silver Mocha- is a real vibrant color depending on sunlight. it has the utilitarian dark brown look in the shade, but turns into a maroonish. honey colored gleam in the sun.
My car is parked indoors now, but I will try to get some good pics of the og paint areas next spring or summer, to help understand what I am saying.
imho the most striking color combo for a 57 is Silvermocha and Inca Gold on Fairlane 500s. that is crazy cool. While I have to say, there isn't a single 57 color I don't like. second choice for me would be cumberland/willow green Custom 300. that is just refreshing green ! :003:
But like I said all those color combos do look great, even single colored 57s. Maybe I am a little biased.... :002:
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-12-07 18:10
G...
I agree the mint green is a beaut as well.
By "utilitarian" I meant that it was a pretty common color...that wasn't a real beauty...but I liked it for it's subtlety...under the radar sort of appearance.
really don't have any good pics of Silver Mocha in the sun, but the detail pic here shows where sun breakes through between the tree branches and check out the difference of the color between the shade and sunlit areas !
Ah...yes...I did misunderstand you. I thought you were talking about the green that was also available in 57.
I remember the brown fading out...I was a Texas kid...and the sun down there was harsh on darker colors...so I am familiar with what you said about the effects of weather on cars parked outdoors. Brutal to say the least!
Yours looks nice in the shaded areas...LOL!!!...and a little abused in the sunny section...but as you said...it's the sun. But still...it is a ride to be envied! :006:
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I bet the border crossings are about as busy today as when this photo was taken. I sure hope they open back up in spring.
Country Squire day.
The bottom pic......What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?
Correct, free popcorn for you at the concession.
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Rich
This is the update on Cobra Joe. You are correct . He has been missed. I just got off the phone with him. He was
away hunting. Jay
So...was he successful?
I was, thank you for asking, although it wasn't an easy 10 days.
After driving almost 600 miles, we struggled to see many deer and the weather was extremely tough. The second day we got over three inches of rain making it uncomfortable to be in a tree stand, even with rain gear, I was soaked and miserable. The next day we got a foot of snow and then another 8" the next day. The deer were locked down, for three days, I saw zero print or sign and then they started to move the next three days. I saw a total of 12 deer the whole time I was there, one was 20 yards in front of me, less than 10 minutes before legal hunting time, only to walk away.
I was fortunate enough to take a nice management doe, about 140 lbs. the morning before I had to leave @ about 60 yards. Thank God, because where I shot her, down in a ravine, took us hours to retrieve, even with a side by side. I double lunged her and took the top part of her heart (she was climbing up the opposite side of the ravine, putting her close to eye level with me) and she still ran close to 100 yards before collapsing. I am so amazed at the will to live these animals have, nothing like us....
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I probably shouldn't show this, so if it offends anyone, please speak up and I will promptly remove the pictures,
but this was the view from my stand after I shot. I had originally thought I had missed as she never stumbled and just ran off until I saw the blood trail:
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Good looking catch. Food for the winter is always good. Congrats.
Thanks; foe years, I use to hunt racks only, but I found that for table fare, Does eat so much better..
...and now, back to our regularly scheduled programming:
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Ah...the days of youth...and no cares or responsibilities...just the next wave or race!
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neat 2 tone paint job on the Dutch convertible !
You gotta love Carrols hickory bibs. the man was larger than life ! :004:
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Curious...in the first pic...what are we seeing in the background that appears to be covered with heavy tarps?
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2020-12-09 11:17
Curious...in the first pic...what are we seeing in the background that appears to be covered with heavy tarps?
I think it's tobacco...I used tp pick it as a kid...50 cents/hr LOL
Quote from: hemidave on 2020-12-09 11:33
I think it's tobacco...I used tp pick it as a kid...50 cents/hr LOL
Maybe...though if that pic was shot in Abbotsford B.C. it isn't likely to be tobacco.
OK, here is your history lesson. The Fraser Valley had a big tobacco industry in the early 30's. When our family settled here tobacco and hops were the big crops. I attached a picture of the drying kilns in Sumas Prairie, I remember them well. There are two left out there.
http://www.yarrowbc.ca/settlers/tobaccoindustry.html
Now with the popularity of micro-brewers, they are going hops out there again.
As far as the picture, from my sleuthing it is tobacco, and my bet it is in the Connecticut region.
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Tobacco in Canada? Really? I never knew that, and would not have suspected it. Wouldn't think the heat was high enough nor long enough. Just goes to show...an old far...er...ah...old dog yea dog...can learn something new! LOL!!!
Thanks! :006:
Interesting...I never would have guessed either. Thanks
The movie Parrish (1961)
In the Connecticut River Valley, Parrish McLean and his mother are newly employed by the Sala Post tobacco farm that is engaged in a competition war with the neighboring Judd Raike tobacco corporation.
"Parrish is a 1961 American drama film made by Warner Bros.. It was written, produced and directed by Delmer Daves, based on the 1958 novel of the same name by Mildred Savage. The music score was by Max Steiner, the Technicolor cinematography by Harry Stradling Sr., the art direction by Leo K. Kuter and the costume design by Howard Shoup.
The film stars Troy Donahue, Claudette Colbert, Karl Malden and Dean Jagger, with Connie Stevens, Diane McBain, Sharon Hugueny, Sylvia Miles, Madeleine Sherwood and Hayden Rorke. The film marked Claudette Colbert's last role in movies.
The film shows the story of conflict between a young, independently minded man and his stepfather, a ruthless tobacco tycoon.
Young Parrish McLean and his mother live on Sala Post's tobacco plantation in the state of Connecticut. His mother marries Post's ambitious rival Judd Raike, who then sets about ruining Post.
They were growing Connecticut shade tobacco extensively visible in some scenes.
And it is things like this tid-bit of info that we all ejnoy...that cause me to make propositions like the one I did about you leaving without notice. :003:
Thanks for the info buddy! :006:
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Full points for Parrish.
Oh I love the purple Sedan delivery!!! The tilt nose has been an idea of mine for years. Wish I could chat with him and see how he did it. He didn't cut the fenders...which so many do. They are intact and I haven't been able to figure out how to do that. Beautiful car! Any more pics?
Usually, the only way you can do it without cutting the fenders, is making it so the whole knows pulls away from the firewall and then tilts up
Right. I had a buddy once who did it with a 54 panel truck. He used a pair of Mustang convertible rams from a '66 I think. But I long ago lost touch with him. And I do not even remotely remember what he did. It's the pulling the nose forward thing that has me scratching my head.
I figured I would have to mount the fenders and then sit on a stool and look and think about it once I get done with the move. I can't see the entire assembly in my mind, so thinking about it when I am driving across country just makes my head swim.
The way I've seen it done, is with two pieces of square tubing one mounted to the chassis one mounted to the nose, with a slot so a pin can slide and stop. You simply pull the nose forward until the pin stops it and then tilts.
Something like this:
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It's got a rat motor in it, so I dont like anything about it.
OH SHT...I never even saw that...sad. Guess I need to track down the current owner and buy it...so can fix the defect...I have an extra FE block and a second tri-power...could cure the disease!
Jimmy Thompson ran this 1940 Ford for Marion Cox in the 1957 Modified race -Mike Cox Collection
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That is some neat engineering there !!! so simple yet effective. they even used a grease fitting on the tilt pin.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-12-10 12:17
The way I've seen it done, is with two pieces of square tubing one mounted to the chassis one mounted to the nose, with a slot so a pin can slide and stop. You simply pool the nose forward until the pain stops it and then tilts.
Like this:
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Thanks Joe...I can maybe put it together in my head...that makes sense... :003:
I'm saving the pic G...thanks... :006:
In fact if you have any more pics I'd be appreciative.
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Friday's trio.
You gotta love Carrols hickory bibs. the man was larger than life ! :004:
I did learn something this week. Hickory bibs. I have been wearing them for 40 years and never heard that term. Asked two seamstress and it was new to them. Never stop learning. Thank you Google and Guenther.
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I suddenly have this urge to get my car washed... :naughty:
I went through one of those fund raising car washes years ago, the scenery was great :003:, the wash sucked :005:
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Quote from: hiball3985 on 2020-12-12 06:21
I went through one of those fund raising car washes years ago, the scenery was great :003:, the wash sucked :005:
Couple of years ago had the Shelby GT500 up in WI on one of our summer trips. It was really nasty from many miles of rain and dirt. The local high school was having a charity car wash for the band. You want to talk about kids getting excited. You'd have thought they had inherited a million bucks! The band director had to settle a couple of arguments about whose turn it was and remind them that there were other cars there to get cleaned up. But alas, not much "scenery, not a very good wash job, just a bunch of mostly happy boys..... :003:
Don't see those much anymore around here. They have always been fun, but I come home and wash the car again.
Back when I was coaching youth girls fastpitch our primary funding source was car washes. I would each year take my car ('69 fastback Mustang) and "teach" the girls how to properly wash a car. Worked out pretty good...they did a nice jib on cars the following week at the car washes, and since we would do 3-4 in successive weeks we always had a decent take.
Dave...that posting gives me a bit of a laugh...not too long after we were married, we were having some cash flow issues. I had casually mentioned that a guy had pulled into the drive and offered my $5k for my white Courier and that I had told him no, but thanks for the interest. (1992) She popped a cork and wanted me to find him and sell it. I reminded her that I had amply advised her before we were married that I had cars, and that I was a car guy down deep, that I had owned them (the Couriers) since '71 and '72 respectively and that I would not part with them. Further I had no desire to have this discussion again should we once more have money problems. I pointed out that I had been single for 20+ years before getting married, been much deeper in the hole financially than we were and had never entertained the thought of selling them nor would ever.
Been married 30 years this next July...never had that discussion again...and yea...we have had money issues over the years. So that poster...made me laugh...but no...I will not be sharing it with her! LOL!!!
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I do have to appologize for what is coming next, but....
WHAT ......????
Why is Adolph washing
my car? :002: :003:
Why couldn't the idiot just keep his job at a Dutch car wash...?
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Yeah, the resemblance caught my eye right away. Can you translate what the sign says?
"Dirty Cars Don't Live Long"
It is Dutch... :toothy5:
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Dutch: (vuile wagen) Dirty cars/wagons (leven niet lang) Don't live long
Exactly !
I find it highly interesting reading and listening to Dutch. The language itself apears to be a mixture of mainly German origins and English and French and some other influences. Which is hardly surprising, considering their neighbors and trading and seafaring traditions.
Vuile Wagens leven niet lang. Dutch
Dreckige Wagen leben nicht lang. German
You can actually see that Vuile must be of French or Skandinavian origins and look at how the plural of WagenS uses the English S.
Listening to Dutch people I can actually understand quite a lot. Even better with reading.
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2020-12-14 05:53
Exactly !
I find it highly interesting reading and listening to Dutch. The language itself apears to be a mixture of mainly German origins and English and French and some other influences. Which is hardly surprising, considering their neighbors and trading and seafaring traditions.
Vuile Wagens leven niet lang. Dutch
Dreckige Wagen leben nicht lang. German
You can actually see that Vuile must be of French or Skandinavian origins and look at how the plural of WagenS uses the English S.
Listening to Dutch people I can actually understand quite a lot. Even better with reading.
Vile wagons live not long? I'd bet that "vile" has an origin based in Latin.
Monday Morning comics.
Homer must be in Cuba. The second one doesn't ring a bell.
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No Down Payment.
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How about an 'Old Ford Video", not mine, but from The Ford Barn
From a recent Hemming's article-a couple of Startrek Voyager clips
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m83yPrgzv4&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN_Atm78RaY
Can't put my finger on it...but there is something about that era of T-Birds that always made me smile and feel good. Just liked them. Still do.
The "Bullet" Bird is my favorite as well. I like the 62 because it is the cleanest looking of the three years. This one was finished in 05 and I still regret letting it go. Just got offered way too much for it....
That was indeed a good lookin' ride. I really like the color!
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Marx Service Center
Those old Marx tin toys are cool, I have a 0 gauge Marx tin train from that era.
Lavender was a popular color around 1960, my 61 Plymouth is almost the same color.
Ron.
The sedan Delivery and Ranchero in Marx's Service Center are oh so sweet! I'd like to have one of those set-ups for my model collection! Nice!!!
Eight rancheros, a custom 4 door, and a fairlane hard top WOW!!!
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Joe
That video about t he 36 ford pick up was real cool. Is that what we are coming to?
Thanks for posting it.
Did you get a lot of snow?
Jay
Jay about 8" of wet, heavy snow. How about you guys?
Three inches of angel's dandruff in Shell Knob. People around here do :003: drive well in snow...they see it so seldom. I was told this was the first snow in over 5 years. :003:
Most of it is gone now...it was Sunday when the angels shook their heads.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-12-17 16:34
Jay about 8" of wet, heavy snow. How about you guys?
We got about the same amount. I haven't even been out of the house today. I'm glad that I don't have to go out and drive in it. My cars are nice and happy inside the shop.
Ed out back got everything all plowed out.
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It was just normal to park those nice 57 Fords outside in the bad weather in
those days.
Not familiar with the "Tatnuck area"...........is that our Woosta?
That's the one Rich, here's an old article about the area:
"WORCESTER, MA - People who live in the Tatnuck section of Worcester almost feel as if they reside in a bucolic suburb, not in the second-largest city in New England.
Tucked into the westernmost part of the city abutting Leicester, Paxton and Holden, Tatnuck is a largely residential area with a smattering of small businesses lining Pleasant and Chandler streets in Tatnuck Square.
It's a very nice neighborhood,said Bruce Gerardi, owner and operator of Gerardi's Service Center at 1123 Pleasant St. for 35 years. It's like being in the country, but the city is a minute away. Two minutes you go down here to Holden and you've got a beautiful reservoir. A lot of hiking. It's definitely a family neighborhood.?
Mr. Gerardi enjoys road-testing cars down Olean Street toward the Holden Reservoir because it's so scenic.
It's wonderful, said Monsignor Thomas J. Sullivan, pastor for more than seven years at Christ the King Parish at 1052 Pleasant St. I see joggers and walkers all day long going by the church, walking their dogs, having a good time. Kids- groups. This is a neighborhood that's alive and energetic and that's nice.
You can buy a house, said District 5 City Councilor Matthew Wally while sipping a coffee at On the Rise bakery at 1120 Pleasant St., in a safe neighborhood on a tree-lined street where there are good schools.
Ray Lauring, 93, has lived in Tatnuck since he was a third-grader at Tatnuck School in 1933 and never saw any reason to leave Tatnuck. He has run a senior softball league at Logan Field and Jesse Burkett Little League since 1990.
It's not downtown, Mr. Lauring said. It's not a busy commercial area, but we're not far from anything. Three or four miles and we can get anything that we need. We're happy not to be in the inner city. We're out in the boondocks really.
Rush-hour traffic
Nevertheless, there's a problem with Tatnuck Square that many believe will grow worse. In the Algonquian language, Tatnuck means "at the great hill," referring to the one that runs up Pleasant Street into Paxton. To many local residents, however, Tatnuck means the traffic that crawls through Tatnuck Square in the morning rush hour and in the midafternoon lasting through the evening rush hour.
I think we have to deal with the traffic, Mr. Wally said. ?I think that's huge. I think that's the No. 1 issue: How do you deal with the traffic I don't know if that includes looking at changes to traffic flow, signage. I don't know if it includes infrastructure, improvements to the square.
Flying out of Worcester Regional Airport, situated atop Tatnuck Hill, is certainly convenient for residents of the West Side. At his annual meeting with area residents in October, airport Director Andy Davis heard from someone who lives on Chandler Street close to Worcester State University who said he waits to see the plane flying in overhead before he leaves to pick up family members at the airport and he arrives in plenty of time.
But as the number of flights increases, so does traffic through Tatnuck to the airport.
The number of passengers out of the airport has risen from 72,000 in 2014 to 121,000 in 2016, and Mr. Davis estimates that number could reach 150,000 by next year when Delta Air Lines will begin flights to Detroit.
I actually think we have problems coming, said Cliff Wilson, owner of Framed in Tatnuck, a custom picture framing center and art gallery, at 1099 Pleasant St. The airport is doing wonderful. Everybody I talk to is starting to take flights out of the airport. We now have three airlines going out of there. From the city where most of the people live you're going through Tatnuck Square so the traffic here is going to get much, much worse.
Routes to the airport
Mr. Davis pointed out that there are three ways to drive to the airport and only one involves driving through Tatnuck Square. Most passengers who travel on the Massachusetts Turnpike drive through Auburn and Webster Square to Goddard Memorial Drive. Signs were erected a few years ago directing passengers through the business section of Webster Square, but many cut through neighborhoods. Other passengers take Mill Street to Airport Drive, but some do take Pleasant Street to the other end of Airport Drive.
Much of the traffic through Tatnuck, however, comes from residents of communities to the west of the city traveling on Pleasant and Chandler streets in and out of the city. Mr. Wally's research discovered that the number of registered vehicles in Paxton, Rutland, Barre and Oakham over the last 20 years has increased by 50 percent. Many of them come to Worcester to work and shop and for medical appointments. In the afternoon, cars heading west on Pleasant Street often back up to Flagg Street.
Mr. Wally filed an order to ask the city manager to have Massport, the state Department of Transportation, the Central Massachusetts Regional Planning Commission and any other relevant parties study the increasing traffic problem.
Each October for the past nine years, Mr. Davis has met with residents to provide an update and take questions.
We appreciate the fact that we are surrounded by residents, Mr. Davis said, and we do our best to maintain good relationships with them.
When a May Street area resident complained at a meeting about the noise of low-flying planes at 2 or 3 in the morning, Mr. Davis said he was surprised because the May Street area is nearly a mile from the airport and 400 feet below the height of the runway, so planes should be 1,400 feet in the air over May Street.
Mr. Davis said Massport has a department to handle noise concerns and he attributed a recent increase in flights over May Street to the closure of a runway for 30 days for resurfacing, but that runway has reopened.
Mr. Davis said American Airlines and JetBlue could arrive in Worcester as late as 1 a.m. if they run late, but he said twin-engine airplanes do deliver medical specimens to Marlboro closer to 2 a.m.
Worcester State parking
Worcester State University is by far the largest employer on the West Side. According to the latest statistics available, in the fall of 2017, WSU had 6,434 students and 567 employees. The university's faculty, staff and students frequent the local businesses.
I think Worcester State does a good job of interacting with the community, Mr. Wally said. They have a neighborhood council that meets a few times a year and that's an open meeting, but even Worcester State would recognize that in the next few years they certainly need to increase on-campus parking.
As a district councilor and chairman of the city's traffic and parking subcommittee, Mr. Wally estimates he receives one or two complaints a week from residents about WSU students parking in their neighborhoods.
Gary Rosen said he received only one or two complaints about the airport during his four years as District 5 councilor before rejoining the City Council as an at-large member this year, but said he said he received far more complaints about students parking on streets near WSU.
Parking on some streets near WSU has been restricted to residents, but not on others. WSU has a satellite parking lot near the airport, but some students choose not to use it.
We are exploring looking at another parking garage, said Barry Maloney, who has been WSU president since 2011, but I also want to keep Worcester State affordable. We?re a bit landlocked.
Mr. Maloney said WSU's existing garage cannot be expanded.
Mr. Maloney said congestion on May and Chandler streets is also a problem. WSU students cross May Street to attend classes in the May Street Building and young students are dropped off and picked up at nearby May Street School and Chandler Street School, adding to already busy roads.
WSU worked with the city to bump out curbs and expand crosswalks on Chandler Street to make crossing the street safer and improve the traffic flow.
Mr. Maloney lives across the street from WSU and said the college does its best to be a good neighbor. According to Mr. Maloney, WSU produces nearly 160,000 hours of service to the community, much of it on the West Side, including holding literacy projects at Tatnuck Magnet School and conducting neighborhood cleanups and neighborhood meetings.
WSU students student-teach at May Street School and Chandler Magnet School. WSU maintains a garden with the students at Chandler Magnet School. Neighbors walk and jog through the campus and on the track.
On Saturday mornings, Central Mass. Striders races begin and end at WSU. The university's Speech-Language-Hearing Center offers free speech and hearing clinics to the public. High school volleyball and basketball tournaments are held in WSU's gym and high school football championship games are played on WSU's football field.
A lot of people judge Worcester State University, Mr. Rosen said, with all its good students, reasonable tuition and fees, good programs, they judge them by cars parked on the street. The neighbors do. Worcester State is a great asset to the neighborhood. I would hate if they moved somewhere else. Then we'd have tons of parking. That whole area would be empty. I want them to stay here and thrive.
Assumption College is also situated on the West Side, opening a campus on Salisbury Street in 1956 after a tornado damaged its campus in Greendale three years earlier.
The West Side has some of the better schools in the city, including West Tatnuck School, Tatnuck Magnet School, Midland Street School, May Street School, Flagg Street School, Chandler Magnet School and Doherty Memorial High School.
Tatnuck Country Club has one of the longest histories of any golf course in the country. The private, nine-hole course, opened in 1898 as one of the first 100 golf courses in the U.S.
Several small businesses, including Tat-Nooks, Subway, Papa Gino?s, a music store, a gift shop and a cellphone store, have closed in Tatnuck Square for various reasons. Rocky?s Hardware in Tatnuck Plaza on Chandler Street closed this month so CVS can enlarge.
City Councilor-at-Large Morris Bergman owns the buildings that housed Tat-Nooks and the music store. He said Charlotte Klein Dance Center is expanding into space formerly used by Tat-Nooks, and a body art jewelry and body piercing business will replace the music store. Mr. Bergman attributed the turnover in small businesses, other than those that provide food or a service, in part to potential customers making purchases online rather than in stores.
Other than the Tatnuck Plaza lot, off-street parking is limited in Tatnuck Square. Mr. Wally would like the city to provide a municipal lot, but existing businesses may have to be removed to make room for one.
For well over a year, the Thomas Energy Center gas station at Chandler and Pleasant streets has been closed while the underground fuel tanks were removed. The station is surrounded by chain-link fence that runs along the sidewalks to keep people away from huge holes on the property.
Mr. Wally said he wasn't able to contact the owner of the station so he filed an order requesting that the city manager ask the city Department of Inspectional Services to provide an update on the status of the construction progress. John Kelly, commissioner of inspectional services, responded on Oct. 4 that the owner of the property had hired a new contractor to complete the project and that the department would continue to monitor the situation. But work on the project hasn't resumed.
It's unsafe, Mr. Gerardi said. That's an eyesore, too. In Tatnuck Square, we keep everything as nice as we can up here.
Joey's Bar & Grill, West Side Steak & BBQ, the Corner Grille and Nancy Chang are among the relatively few restaurants located on the West Side, but Tatnuck Grille, located in Tatnuck Plaza, closed in April. The owners of Funky Murphys on Shrewsbury Street have gutted Tatnuck Grille and plan to open a bar and grille called Scruffy Murphys in January, according to an employee at the Shrewsbury Street location.
It would be helpful if we had more restaurants, Mr. Wally said. I know a lot of people who drive to Shrewsbury Street. Even if they want to get takeout, they drive to Grove Street to Ciao Bella. I do it all the time. We want to attract high-quality restaurants.
The West Side has long been considered to be the most affluent section of the city, but Mr. Wilson, owner of Framed in Tatnuck, wonders if that's still true.
This isn't really as high-end as it used to be,' he said, and the people with money don't shop in Worcester. Some do, there's a few, but most of the people with money still think they have to go to Boston or New York. So as a business here in Tatnuck where all the money is, in quotes, we have to cater to the people who don't have a lot of money. The rest of the city thinks Tatnuck Square is rich. Tatnuck Square really isn't rich.?
Jewish population
Most of the city's Jewish population resides on the West Side, where all five of Worcester's five synagogues are located. Mr. Bergman researched the history of Jewish politics in Worcester for a Torathon presentation he gave last month at Congregation Beth Israel, and he discovered that the Jewish population peaked at 13,000 in 1927 and had dipped to 9,333 in the 1950s with 7,000 of them, 75 percent, living on the West Side. Ward 9 on the West Side was 32 percent Jewish in the 1950s. Today, an estimated 8,000 to 9,000 people live in Worcester who identify themselves as Jewish and roughly three-quarters of them live on the West Side.
With 2,254 parishioners encompassing 920 families, Christ the King is one of the largest Catholic parishes in the city and the largest place of worship on the West Side. Monsignor Sullivan has noticed more ethnic groups moving into the Tatnuck area. Africans and to a lesser degree Hispanics have joined Christ the King in recent years.
We see it at Mass, Monsignor Sullivan said, but also I see it at the bus stop. The bus stop is right in front of us and the majority of students picking up the bus are people of color. So that means people have found a way financially to secure homes who probably were never able to afford that before in this area, which is a good thing. A mixed neighborhood is a good thing for the city.
In addition to conducting Masses, Christ the King holds several community programs.
?Our parking lot is filled every single night and often times during the daytime,? Monsignor Sullivan said. ?So we?re vibrant. We have five Scout troops here. It's nothing for us to have three or four events going on at the same time.?
Mr. Lauring moved to Tatnuck so long ago, he predated the opening of the original Christ the King Parish a wooden structure built in 1936 in the parking lot of the existing church on Pleasant Street by three years. He remembers taking the trolley to Blessed Sacrament Church because there were no buses from Tatnuck back then."
There wasn't much traffic in those days.
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WOW, interesting history lesson, Thanks Joe ! ^^^
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1953 X-100
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The real McCoy.
Walter Brennan!! He was so good with that limp, I always wondered if it was real. I maybe knew at one time, can't remember now.
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Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-12-22 11:13
Walter Brennan!! He was so good with that limp, I always wondered if it was real. I maybe knew at one time, can't remember now.
If you think Grandpa Amos had a hard time you should see me. And I am no actor.
- 1958 NEW CAR DELIVERY -
The young lady ... :023: ... shown in the above photo was neither an OEM OPTION or DEALER ACCESSORY.
You had to supply your own set of seat covers...
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Made my own "Old Ford Pic"; I picked up this 221 cu. in. (21 stud) flathead today for short money. It appears to be a truck motor, but was supposedly rebuilt 20 years or so ago and has been sitting in this guys garage. Has a replacement clutch and pressure plate on it and turns over, so I took a chance.
The intake, exhaust manifolds and distributer were off an the ports stuffed with rags. It looked pretty clean inside and the oil was clean also. I know that doesn't mean much, but for a few bucks, I figured I couldn't get hurt too bad.
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Pretty cool find, hope it runs well. In the pictures it looks rather small, is it a V8 60 engine? Or just my eyes playing tricks?
I'm not an expert on these, but I think it's a 1932-1937 221 cu. in. 85HP?
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Your engine would be 37 thru 41. Flatheads prior to 37 had high mount water pumps in the heads. Also babbit main bearings as I recall.
Okay, thanks thomasso.
I wasn't sure, because everything I had read said that 1932-1937 had 21 stud heads and 1938-1941 had 24 stud heads. I knew that the 221 had head mounted water pumps up until 1936 and that this was a 1937 because of the block mounted water pumps and that it the steel heads and dual groove pulleys made it the truck motor, which I think was 7.50:1 compression, rather than 6.12:1.
I guess I just assumed 1932-37 221 cu. in. 21 stud was one series and 1938-41 221 cu. in. 24 stud was another series.
Actually they were 21 stud until the 59AB after the war, which are 24 stud as are 8BAs and all 239s and 254s. Tom.
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Bounty Hunter at Keystone Raceway in Winnipeg, Manitoba.
The Volvo does not stand a chance.
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Could you imagine having all these people sitting on the fenders of modern cars?The fenders on new cars are about as thick as a soda can, they would probably be rubbing on the tires! The hood on my 2010 Rangers has dents from falling pine cones, I doubt the hood of my old 74 F350 would dent like that is a whole branch fell on it.
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congratulations on your purchase Joe, that is a neat little vintage Flat motor !
I think that you are spot on with your observations. ( 37 221 21std). truck pumps also have longer hose spouts.
'39 had the 239 24std introduced with Mercury, which also came with Fords for 1940 (introducing larger main and rod bearings). some of them have the raised cast intake area.
It's easy to know a 39-41 24std from a post war 59A. if the ridge in the block above the timing cover holds a pencil. it's pre war. if the block looks rather slant in the front it's post war. You need to know a Native Flathead lover to find that kind of secret information ! :002: :003:
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2020-12-28 14:59
this was a 1937 because of the block mounted water pumps and that it the steel heads and dual groove pulleys made it the truck motor
it seems yours also has the second vertical oil feed hole for a bypass type oil filter ( HD/truck/accessory).
It'll be interesting to see if it has a 9" or 10" clutch.
only up to mid of 1936 21 stds had main babbit bearing. insert mains were introduced mid year , known as LB blocks ( L arge B earing)
your engine also has the super nice original cast exhaust manifolds, that will work great for a hot rod build, clearing steering gear and such.
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Thanks for the info guys, much appreciated.
I just got a call from Jay and he shed a little more insight on the mill I bought which made me feel a lot better about my purchase.
We spoke for a bit and I I told him I also picked up a literally, brand new 1939 Ford Deluxe hood that was purchased over the counter from Ford and never placed on a vehicle from the same guy. There was nothing wrong with mine, but for the money, if something ever happened to mine, I could never replace it. I promised him I would post a couple of pics.
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It just goes to show that good stuff is still out there.
53 road to tomorrow Ford building
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That picture looks like it must be across the big pond somewhere. The traffic is going in the wrong direction.
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Interesting observation Jay !
filler necks on cars are on correct side, so not an inverted slide. als pencil note on photo bottom is right side up.
Joe what do you mean by quote
'53' road to tomorrow....Car heading our direction is clearly a 39 Merc and other cars also apear to be 38-40 ( 39) Fords or Mercs.
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2021-01-05 06:57
That picture looks like it must be across the big pond somewhere. The traffic is going in the wrong direction.
Sorry DJ, typo on my part, I copied and pasted my name for the picture "#53". It should be 1939 The road to Tomorrow.
"The Road of Tomorrow," Ford Exposition, New York World's Fair, 1939
Ford Motor Company was a major participant in the 1939-40 New York World's Fair. In addition to viewing educational demonstrations and exhibits, Ford exposition visitors could ride in brand-new Ford automobiles along the Road of Tomorrow. Befitting the fair's "Building the World of Tomorrow" theme, this conceptual highway experience suggested modern techniques for safer, quieter, and more efficient roadways.
The "Exposition" has four main divisions: the Entrance Hall, the Industrial Hall, the Garden Court, and "The Road of Tomorrow." Each of the first three demonstrate in graphic style some significant phase of the company's work, showing how mass production of automobiles at moderate cost has contributed to a new way of life. The Entrance Hall is dominated by a series of striking exhibits. The first car Henry Ford built will be seen with current models of Lincoln-Zephyr, Mercury and Ford V-8 cars. "Everytown" is a large three phase map activated on a series of synchronized prisms, depicting the changes the automobile has wrought in our country. A huge activated mural by Henry Billings shows how the basic sciences are utilized by industry. Outstanding in the adjoining Industrial Hall is the "Ford Cycle of Production.'' A revolving turntable 100 feet in diameter, it contains 87 exhibits showing the progression of raw materials from earth to finished cars. Industrial Hall also offers various exhibits demonstrating Ford manufacturing methods.
The stainless steel Sculpture of Mercury by Robert Foster floated over the main entrance to the "Ford Exposition". Foster designed the U.S. Petroleum Industry stamp (Scott 1134) of 1959.
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But the more striking feature of the building's exterior was the half-mile spiral ramp on which visitors rode in Ford-model vehicles as a part of the Road of Tomorrow attraction. The ramp surrounded the Garden Court, a beautifully landscaped courtyard where fairgoers could partake in a picnic lunch, listen to a musical performance, or just relax and people watch.
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The popular highlight of the exposition was The Road of Tomorrow, demonstrated by the long queue lines that overlooked the Garden Court. Here's how our trusty guidebook described the attraction:
From a broad mezzanine you embark on your wondrous trip over '"The Road of Tomorrow." The winding course takes you through a tunnel lined with murals depicting ultra-modern highway construction, circles the top of Industrial Hall and through still another tunnel high in the nave of Entrance Hall. Descending at last to the second floor level, you circle Garden Court and return to the mezzanine and the end of a thrilling and delightful adventure.
Granted, this "thrilling adventure" did not rival the 65 mph speed of Test Track, but it was certainly entertaining in its day. In fact, Test Track would have been far cooler had the speed ramp circled a public area much the way "Road" surrounded the Garden Court. Instead, it exposes guests to some fairly unattractive backstage scenery.
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Joe, another thanx a lot for that extended description of the 39 world fair. The pictures are so utterly interesting and beautiful. Now we could go on and on again asking what has become of style and taste these days....probably not worth the discussion anyways. Instead of going on a modern day 2 month seacruise, I dream of just being able to go back in time and attend the 34 Chicago world fair ( or this 39 NY exhibit) for an afternoon. that would be my favorite holiday destination....imagine seeing those stunning exhibits and all those freshly painted, gleaming and roaring brandnew V8 Fords...... you must be proud of your sweet 39 Cpe !
Thanks DJ; I'm with you, I'd love to go back and be able to spend a day in certain periods of time (with the necessary funds!) and drive a factory fresh 1908 Model T, or a 1930's Duesenberg, or a 1930's Auburn Speedster, or maybe a 1937 Lincoln-Zephyr Coupe, or even a 1956-'57 Continental Mark II, or how about a 1965 R Code Mustang, and 1965 427 S/C Cobra, or a 1968 Shelby GT500KR Convertible, while I'm their I'll take a 1969 Mustang Boss 429......
Sorry, I get a little excited sometimes.....
....and yes, I absolutely love my Coupe!
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1967 Ford J Car in wind tunnel
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Found this beauty on Jalopy Journal this morning.
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Joe Cushman running at New England Dragway, he was the NHRA and IHRA record holder, a great car to watch run. JohnV
Swedish Rocker type of guys in the 1950s/60s. In Sweden this style is called 'Raggare' to this day. a similar meaning to 'Rockabilly'.
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Moving pictures. I'm always amazed at the automation of the time period, and all built without computers.
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I knew they made them, but I think that is the 1st straight fairlane 4 dht I'v ever seem, Nice.
Chris Amon, Bruce McLaren, Ken Miles, Denny Hulme, (from left to right)
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My oh my. That one looks staged by the number of Fords in one shot.
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cooooool ! :004:
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Can't remember if this one was posted before, my mind is getting like Swiss cheese.
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2021-01-17 10:57
Can't remember if this one was posted before, my mind is getting like Swiss cheese.
I can remember song lyrics from the 60's a lot more than I can remember why I just walked into the kitchen.
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Quote from: lowrider on 2021-01-18 05:19
I can remember song lyrics from the 60's a lot more than I can remember why I just walked into the kitchen.
X2, I know how that goes.
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Quote from: lowrider on 2021-01-18 05:19
I can remember song lyrics from the 60's a lot more than I can remember why I just walked into the kitchen.
X2!
That jet tail is a hell of a pic!
WOW! I would like to know more about that picture. When I was a little kid living in Queens NY we had a cargo plane crash a few blocks from our house. We didn't go see it but I remember pieces of clothing hanging from the telephone lines on our block.
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2021-01-18 08:38
WOW! I would like to know more about that picture. When I was a little kid living in Queens NY we had a cargo plane crash a few blocks from our house. We didn't go see it but I remember pieces of clothing hanging from the telephone lines on our block.
2 planes collided in the air over Brooklyn 60 years ago in what then the deadliest aviation crash ever ? here's what happened
In 1960, two airplanes crashed into each other above New York City.
One of the planes crashed in Park Slope, Brooklyn, right in the middle of a residential neighborhood.
AP photos from the crash show how devastating and unbelievable the scene was.
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On December 16, 1960, Park Slope, Brooklyn became the home of the worst aviation disaster the world had ever seen.
Two New York-bound flights from the Midwest crossed paths, one from United and one from TWA. Neither pilot reported distress, but the United plane reportedly showed signs of navigational systems malfunctioning. It was flying at 360 miles per hour when it struck the TWA plane and crashed in Brooklyn.
Here are photos from the crash site, that show what the scene looked like in 1960
December 16, 1960 was "a distinctly new kind of catastrophe" when two airplanes collided over New York City, according to a 2010 report by The New York Times 50 years after the event.
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The tail of one of the planes landed in the Park Slope neighborhood of Brooklyn, while the other landed in Staten Island, the New York Times reported.
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Part of the United Airlines jet, plus debris, took over the intersection of Seventh Avenue and Sterling Place.
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At first, people were in shock and didn't know what had happened. The "United" lettering still visible on the tail was their first clue.
The New York Times reported that an entire block of buildings was set ablaze by the crash, sparked by excess fuel.
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At least ten buildings were destroyed by the flames.
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The plane struck a church as it fell.
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Only 11yrs old then but I remember that. That was just about a year after the big earthquake in Anchorage Ak. Couple big disasters.
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I don't remember ever hearing about the plane crash, but I was 14, had my mind on other things sadly.....like girls.
Lowrider.........we use to have a member here from Anchorage area.........Tom. Left once for a year or two, came back, then left again. I miss him...he had always posted some interesting stuff.
Thank you for the story of the plane crash. That was not the one I was thinking about, it would have been earlier. I'm surprised to see FDNY still using older cars. I don't recall this one. We left NY in 1957 in a brand new 1957 Ford.
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Thank you for the story of the plane crash. That was not the one I was thinking about, it would have been earlier. I'm surprised to see FDNY still using older cars. I don't recall this one. We left NY in 1957 in a brand new 1957 Ford.
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I can't even imagine what it must've been like to walk into a Lincoln dealership in 1959 and see these incredible, over the top vehicles that really were nothing like anything else on the road.
Same dealership, I like them already.
Terry
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WHAT !?
is that an upside down Buick Riviera rear bumper....now...well......why didnt he use a railroad track.... ::) :003:
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WHAT !?
is that an upside down Buick Riviera rear bumper....now...well......why didnt he use a railroad track.... ::) :003:
Günter If you are talking about the 58 - 59 truck in picture 5345, it just does not look right. Looks like it wants to tip forward and fall on it's face. A railroad track would not be very good for pushing cars around. Maybe a wooden bumper would be better. JMO
Hey you guys stop making fun of front bumpers :005: I made my own and would have used railroad track if I had some at the time :003:
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Hey you guys stop making fun of front bumpers :005: I made my own and would have used railroad track if I had some at the time :003:
Your bumper doesn't look out of place like the pic G's talking about. Were I to see the grotesque bumper I wouldn't consider looking at the rest of it, no matter how nice it looked.
Jim
That red one in the picture is beautiful. IMO it is a lot nicer that the green one . I like the 58s and 59s. I had a 60 , but it was such a long time ago I can't remember if it had dual or single headlights. That's called CRS. Jay
Hey, c'mon! me and a friend (he's the talent :006:) made this bumper for my Ford:
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1957 was the only year with single headlights. Myself, I prefer the dual headlights, but this would do in a pinch.
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Jim
That red one in the picture is beautiful. IMO it is a lot nicer that the green one . I like the 58s and 59s. I had a 60 , but it was such a long time ago I can't remember if it had dual or single headlights. That's called CRS. Jay
Jay, mine is a 60 and so is the green one. I have a friend with a 57 single headlight and it's red too. The first time we passed each other going down the road I couldn't believe it, two similar trucks in the same small town..
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1957 was the only year with single headlights. Myself, I prefer the dual headlights, but this would do in a pinch.
Thats a nice 57 Mercury
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Hey, c'mon! me and a friend (he's the talent :006:) made this bumper for my Ford:
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Joe ,you get first prize for making that nice front bumper. A lot of thinking and work went into putting that together. It's beautiful. How come I never saw that one? You're holding out on us.
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2021-01-26 16:59
Jay, mine is a 60 and so is the green one. I have a friend with a 57 single headlight and it's red too. The first time we passed each other going down the road I couldn't believe it, two similar trucks in the same small town..
Jim it was a long time ago, but the one thing that I remember about my 60 Ford pick up was that the box side panels were made into the cab. It appeared to be original and had no indication of having had any custom work putting the cab and box together. I don't recall ever seeing another one like that. Jay
In 61-62 Ford made a F100 with one piece box and cab. Can't remember what it was called, a friend had one. i don't believe they were made on the 57 thru 60 body style.
All I've ever heard them called are Unibodies, but not meaning what that term means now. A friend here in town has one mounted on a Crown Vic frame. James Potter has/had one.
Thomasso and Rich
So from what you guys have said, that means my truck was real. Like I stated, it was a long time ago and it must have been
later than 1959 because I didn't remember it having the dual headlights. I never registered it and drove it on my repair plates.
Most likely I only paid $50. for it because that's was about the standard price in those days. This was way over 50 years ago.
Jay
those are among the prettiest Ford trucks ever imho. maybe a little underrated. Still on my list of must have vehicles. I believe they also introduced the twin I beam action front axle.
so clean and smooth!
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Günter
That's what my truck looked like except for the whitewalls and fancy hubcaps. I bought it off of the son of a guy that I knew.
It was turn key and I never had to do any mechanical or bodywork on it. This was a clear case of not knowing what I had. So now that we know that it was real, it's safe to assume that the cheap ones don't exist anymore. Jay
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Unibody trucks were only 61-63, twin I beam didn't start until 65..
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Mercury and Fords leaving the same line ?
Not unusual. At Dearborn there were Mustang/Cougar and Maverick/Comet all at the same time. What a nightmare!
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Not unusual. At Dearborn there were Mustang/Cougar and Maverick/Comet all at the same time. What a nightmare!
I have seen several photos of 1969 & 70 Mustangs and Cougars going down the assembly line together, I would have just assumed that maybe they would do , say, a week of Mustangs, then a week of Cougars, and also maybe do runs of say, 100 or so cars all the same color, just for consistancy , but apparently that was not the case. I really enjoy watching old assembly line films on youtube, I imagine that it was mind numbing, repetitive work, but always found it amazing , that all the different colored car bodies, and front ends , coming together at just the right time, even more so when multiple car models going down the line at the same time. I understand that much more componentry is sourced from outside suppliers, and many more automated "robots" placing and welding various panels, but a trip to Fords Dearborn plant, along with the Henry Ford Museum , is high on my bucket list.
I've done the Ford and the Rouge Plant Tour several times. Very enjoyable and well worth the effort!
I always wanted to see the quarter panel stamping process on something like a 1958 Lincoln. It would be interesting to see how many steps it would take to get it to a finished piece.
The first time on the Rouge Plant tour, I was a little disappointed because I had preconceived ideas of blast furnaces and the bowls of the Rouge from the '50s. The tour is really good and worth the time and money but it is the modern F-series assembly plant part of the Rouge. It is accessible, clean, and at your own pace above the assembly floor. I've spent the morning at the Rouge, catch a shuttle back to the Ford for lunch and then wander around the Ford and/or Greenfield Village with the proving ground right next door.
I was surprised when I toured the Rouge how all the staff was wearing street clothes, no coveralls or uniforms.
Touring the Kenworth factory they told us that if they had a 100 truck order of identical trucks they would always put a few odd ones in between so the assemblers did not get complacent.
I also missed the blast furnaces and the monster presses, I expected noise, smell, chest thumping, floor shaking excitment.
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gasman, I also found the Model T plant on Piquette Ave. to be inspiring, there is something about being in that place, you can feel the history that went on there, and it's mostly all original, like Henry's office and desk plus everything else. A must see if in that area for a Ford fan. JViera
Freddie Meier team car to South FL driver Marty Handshaw - 1958
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2021-01-30 06:57
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What's the story on the Mustang? Looks a little customized.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2021-01-30 12:36
What's the story on the Mustang? Looks a little customized.
July 1968 - Al Grillo (left) poses with Playmate, Michelle Hamilton and Ed Casey, Shelby's regional representative. Grillo was always well dressed and rarely wore the same clothes twice. He often chomped on a big cigar, but rarely smoked.
Grillo Ford was located at 220 South Common Street in Lynn, Massachusetts. It's hard to believe that Grillo was in business for less than two years. Grillo purchased Nel-Nick Motors in early 1967. The dealership was always full of high performance vehicles. They sold 427 Cobra roadsters, a street GT40 and dozens of Shelbys. A handful of Shelbys were sold during the summer of 1967. They also did some customization work. It was rumored they would build anything for anyone. Several of Grillo's custom jobs found their way to North Carolina, reportedly to be used by "moonshiners".
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Carroll Shelby, Grillo and Casey pose for a picture beside a new 1968 Shelby. Grillo was the consumate salesman. He was very well read and liked to strike up a conversation.
In 1969, the dealership was closed by Ford. Grillo owed the Ford Motor Company a considerable sum of money. Records indicate Grillo never sold a single 1969 Shelby. Most of Grillo's stock was transfered to Lynn Ford and the assets of the business were sold to Yaz Ford. Yaz Ford was owned by Boston Red Sox baseball player, Carl Yastrzemski. The remaining cars in inventory were transfered to other dealerships
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The F O R D letters are missing and the grill is bashed in, wander what year that was taken?
Not sure why, but I am thinking about the Mamas and Papas. that would be around 1965. but I don't really know if its them.
I found the caption online:
QuotePhotograph caption dated December 22, 1962 reads "Scrub for dollars is the theme for the benefit car wash which will be held Sunday by Valley high school students at Woodman Ave. and Vanowen St., Van Nuys, and Bakman Ave. and Magnolia Blvd., North Hollywood. All proceeds will be used for Woodcraft Rangers Camperships. Among 40 'washers' will be, from left, Cheryl Angel, Art Shartsis, Judie Jones and Mike Gold."
Would the "year" sticker only be placed on the rear plate in CA ?
Yes the year sticker is only on the rear plate in Cali . But the car in the picture still has the yellow/black plates and in 62 Cali changed to black/yellow plates.
does that mean everybody had to get the new black and yellow 63 plates on their registered cars, or were you allowed to keep the yellow 56 plates ?
Not sure about CA, but in MA, the plates used to alternate Red to Green every year until 1949.Dated red for even years, dated green for odd and I believe you could keep the old plates.
With 'keepin' I do not mean keeping the plate in your posession and tacking them on the shop wall, but keeping them ON the actual car and having it insuranced and registered. I know that the black and yellow Californian plates are still legal today, but could you leave the old yellow plates on the car in , lets say 63-64 ?
With MA, I know that you got a new plate every year, before they had the stickers or labels.
Joe, did Jay ever tell you the story about the 6321 plates ?..... that was insane.
when I bought the 34 from him, I was looking for vintage MA plates for decoration purpose. said and done I purchased a set of red 1934 plates online from another collector (without Jay knowing about it). only after that we found out that Jay knew that person from local flea markets. so now I had the 1934 6321 plates ( a full set), when we found out that a close friend of Jay, who has since passed away unfortunately, had his 1936 cabriolet registered on the period correct 1936 6321 plates, which of course is totally legal for collector cars in MA.
Now what are the odds of me flying over from Europe, to purchase an old car and seemingly random seperate plates, only to find the friend of the seller of the car, having exactly these numbers, which, most certainly belonged to the same person and car 80 years ago, when they needed to replace the plates every year. This is insane. Jay and I are still having a laugh and headshake over this coincidence. OR was it even coincidence ? :003:
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2021-02-01 15:25
I found the caption online:
Tanks G, thats interesting. Close to me and my son was a WoodCraft Ranger..
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2021-02-02 04:29
does that mean everybody had to get the new black and yellow 63 plates on their registered cars, or were you allowed to keep the yellow 56 plates ?
You could keep the plates until the car was sold and a new registration was needed by the new owner the best I remember. Many people here still run period correct plates which is allowed. You can see the yellow plates on my friends wagon.
Thank you Jim, that is exactly what I wanted to know.
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2021-02-02 07:38
You could keep the plates until the car was sold and a new registration was needed by the new owner the best I remember.
That Inca Gold Colonial White wagon of your friend is just so pretty !
My Del Rio had (original to it) black Cali plates before it went to Az (around 2010), so it was probably sold/resold within Cali after 63. The best I know is that it was purchased from the Chino area in the late 80s or early 90s, with the Black KOY plates still on. Still have the plates as well.
that is me and Blair at the Long Beach Swap meet, where we incidently bumped into each other in the parking lot. he is a previous owner from the 1990s and he hadn't seen the car in 10 years or longer. He instantly recognized it in the parking lot, even though it had been repainted since. He even had an actual photo of it in his daily driver (15-20 years after selling the car or so), which he gave to me. Awesome memories ! :001:
And now we have gone back to black plates yellow lettering again. I thought about getting some for my truck to replace the blue plates and my Mustang has white plates.
G, I think I was wrong. Only new cars got new plates or you needed to replace them for some reason. Other then that you could keep the old plates even if you were a new owner and registration.
Jim, would you mind talking and asking your friends about that. Not that it matters to me, but just very curious to know !
I have a list somewhere, and I believe it is from the 1956 era of yellow plates. and it refers certain letter codes to certain areas/counties(?) of California. So in my logic, that means, if a car was sold to another area, or if you moved to another area, it might have been necessary to replace the registration /area code on the plates ?!? This is just an assumption. but something must have made it mandatory to replace plates, because there ARE some vintage cars (pre 1963) from California, that still have the ( og, old) yellow, and many have black or blue plates. Maybe the plate letter code was only where they were issued, I really dont know.
FWIW I also still have the blue Cali plate with my 1934 Ford from when it came from Cali to the East in the 1980s.
I actually have a friend who collects old plates and is very knowledgeable about all the changes but do to the Covid going crazy here we don't gather as a group any longer and I don't have his phone number.
I don't ever remember the numbers being connected to any certain county. I think that was an Arizona or Nevada thing?
When Cali went to the black/yellow plates all the yellow/black plates were obsolete and replaced . The dmv sent you new plates and you were supposed to return the old plate but lots of people kept the yellow/black plate for garage art. I have my parents original yellow/black plate from their 55 Chevy registered to my wagon .
My ranchero still has its original black/yellow plate on it . Cali change the plat to a blue/yellow plate in the early 70s and started to replace the black/yellow plates on registration changes.
I don't know? black plates came out in 63, yellow 56-62
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_California#1914_to_1962
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2021-02-02 07:57
Thank you Jim, that is exactly what I wanted to know.
That Inca Gold Colonial White wagon of your friend is just so pretty !
My Del Rio had (original to it) black Cali plates before it went to Az (around 2010), so it was probably sold/resold within Cali after 63. The best I know is that it was purchased from the Chino area in the late 80s or early 90s, with the Black KOY plates still on. Still have the plates as well.
that is me and Blair at the Long Beach Swap meet, where we incidently bumped into each other in the parking lot. he is a previous owner from the 1990s and he hadn't seen the car in 10 years or longer. He instantly recognized it in the parking lot, even though it had been repainted since. He even had an actual photo of it in his daily driver (15-20 years after selling the car or so), which he gave to me. Awesome memories ! :001:
He still hangs around Orange/Tustin. We call him Bare Foot Blair, because he never wears shoes. He's a genuine character. A true Car Guy.
John
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I understand that John Haskell still owns his shorty 57 wagon. Here it`s in the other lane, racing against my 70 Mach 1, at Bremerton Raceway, in the mid 80s.
Crap, sorry, wrong picture. This should be the right one.
I remember the shorty wagon at Bremerton being very entertaining to watch at the starting line, I think it had a 427 fe in it? Was the GG Mach 1 your car also? Don't you wish you could have kept them all?
To all Cali guys, I found the old area codes in my files. it dates form 1956, so the yellow plates !
that is great to hear John !!! yeah his email is also blairfootn. does he still have the 56 Ford ?
If you run into him, can you please tell him my regards ?
Quote from: John Palmer on 2021-02-02 13:00
He still hangs around Orange/Tustin. We call him Bare Foot Blair, because he never wears shoes. He's a genuine character. A true Car Guy.
John
The area code list above is correct !
I just looked up an old original registration form of my Country Sedan. the old license plate read CET173. according to the list (CES- CGB) this means Napa Valley, which is absolutely correct. owner and titled were in Napa.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2021-02-02 19:38
The area code list above is correct !
I just looked up an old original registration form of my Country Sedan. the old license plate read CET173. according to the list (CES- CGB) this means Napa Valley, which is absolutely correct. owner and titled were in Napa.
Thats really interesting, I didn't know that. Did you see this link I posted?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_California#1914_to_1962
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Quote from: rmk57 on 2021-02-02 13:50
I remember the shorty wagon at Bremerton being very entertaining to watch at the starting line, I think it had a 427 fe in it? Was the GG Mach 1 your car also? Don't you wish you could have kept them all?
Yes, Haskell had a FE 427 and Jerico 4 speed in the wagon. And yes, I owned that Grabber Green 70 Mach in the late 70s. 351C 4 barrel automatic car. Paid $2500.00 for it! Big $$$ considering I paid $2000. for my 70 428 CJ 4 speed Mach 1 a year or 2 later. Although the R code car needed a LF 14 panel and paint when I got it, but it did have a fresh CJ engine!
My favorite muscle car of all time. No chin or rear spoiler, striping, badges, just a plain sportroof 69 CJ Mustang.
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Quote from: hiball3985 on 2021-02-01 09:21
The F O R D letters are missing and the grill is bashed in, wander what year that was taken?
Jim
The FORD letters on my original header panel are are missing and after very careful inspection the panel has never been repaired and there is no body work where the letters should be. It is my opinion that just maybe it was an over the counter replacement. Jay
Quote from: John Palmer on 2021-02-02 13:00
He still hangs around Orange/Tustin. We call him Bare Foot Blair, because he never wears shoes. He's a genuine character. A true Car Guy. Quote
John
We in Mass. have a guy that walks around barefoot at the car cruises. also. Cobra Joe and JohnV , did you ever see him at the Friday night cruise in Halifax Ma ? IMO it is not a smart thing to do, but each to his own. Jay
Can't say I have Jay.
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Quote from: Ecode70D on 2021-02-04 00:05
Jim
The FORD letters on my original header panel are are missing and after very careful inspection the panel has never been repaired and there is no body work where the letters should be. It is my opinion that just maybe it was an over the counter replacement. Jay
Thats a very good possibility Jay.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2021-02-04 05:03
Can't say I have Jay.
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Joe
That's because when we are at the cruise, we are too busy looking at cars, and eating hot dogs.
We don't have enough time to be looking at feet. If we are allowed to cruise this summer, I'll point him out to you.
JA
I hope I can clear up the California License plate issue. For a while every vehicle were issued new license plates every year. The plates came due in January of the year and everyone had to pay the registration of their vehicles and were issued a new set of plates. If you want to go back prior to 1914, you put your own homemade plates on your car and registered them with the state. In 1914 the state started issuing license plates and the plates were mailed to owners every year with the vehicle getting a new pair of plates for the vehicles. In WWII, the practice of adding a year strip on plates started due to a need to conserve metal for the war effort. 1941 plates were issued and in 1942, and 1943 you were given a strip to put on your 1941 plates to update the registration. For 1944, you were issued a sticker for the windshield as your proof of registration. along with a tab for your 1941 plate. In 1945 you were issued a new plate. In 1946 you were issued a tab for your 1945 plate and then in 1947, everyone got new plates. In 1948, 1949 and 1950 you got a tab that attached to the 1947 plate then everyone got a new plate in 1951. For 1952-1955, everyone got a tab to add to the 1951 license plate.
In 1956, the federal government and the auto manufacturers got together to standardize the license plate size so that car manufacturers could provide uniform brackets. the 1956 California plate conformed to that new standard and the early plates has a horizontal hole near the year stamp that was supposed to be used for a metal tab in 1957. The state decided not to issue the metal tabs but went to a sticker for the 1957-1962 years. In 1963, everyone was issued a new set of plates but those were supposed to be permanent. From 1963 there was no general issue of plates to everyone. Plates that were damaged, lost or stolen were replaced with whatever plate was currently being issued at the time. In the 1970's, the state changed all registration being renewed in January to a 12 month registration process. At that time they issued month stickers to be placed on the plate in the upper left hand corner with the year sticker attached to the upper right hand corner.
Thus is the abbreviated history of California car license plates.
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Thank you for clarification, that makes sense now. so our 57s would only keep the original yellow 56 plates if they were not registered post '63. It would be interesting to know if the black and gold 63 carried the same numbers/letters as the 56 plates ( if one kept his registraion valid, only with mandatory new plates). Say if the original owner of my 57 CS had the same CET 173 plates in yellow 56 and black 63 plates later on.
Quote from: cokefirst on 2021-02-04 17:07
I hope I can clear up the California License plate issue. For a while every vehicle were issued new license plates every year. The plates came due in January of the year and everyone had to pay the registration of their vehicles and were issued a new set of plates. If you want to go back prior to 1914, you put your own homemade plates on your car and registered them with the state. In 1914 the state started issuing license plates and the plates were mailed to owners every year with the vehicle getting a new pair of plates for the vehicles. In WWII, the practice of adding a year strip on plates started due to a need to conserve metal for the war effort. 1941 plates were issued and in 1942, and 1943 you were given a strip to put on your 1941 plates to update the registration. For 1944, you were issued a sticker for the windshield as your proof of registration. along with a tab for your 1941 plate. In 1945 you were issued a new plate. In 1946 you were issued a tab for your 1945 plate and then in 1947, everyone got new plates. In 1948, 1949 and 1950 you got a tab that attached to the 1947 plate then everyone got a new plate in 1951. For 1952-1955, everyone got a tab to add to the 1951 license plate.
In 1956, the federal government and the auto manufacturers got together to standardize the license plate size so that car manufacturers could provide uniform brackets. the 1956 California plate conformed to that new standard and the early plates has a horizontal hole near the year stamp that was supposed to be used for a metal tab in 1957. The state decided not to issue the metal tabs but went to a sticker for the 1957-1962 years. In 1963, everyone was issued a new set of plates but those were supposed to be permanent. From 1963 there was no general issue of plates to everyone. Plates that were damaged, lost or stolen were replaced with whatever plate was currently being issued at the time. In the 1970's, the state changed all registration being renewed in January to a 12 month registration process. At that time they issued month stickers to be placed on the plate in the upper left hand corner with the year sticker attached to the upper right hand corner.
Thus is the abbreviated history of California car license plates.
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2021-02-08 07:12
Thank you for clarification, that makes sense now. so our 57s would only keep the original yellow 56 plates if they were not registered post '63. It would be interesting to know if the black and gold 63 carried the same numbers/letters as the 56 plates ( if one kept his registraion valid, only with mandatory new plates). Say if the original owner of my 57 CS had the same CET 173 plates in yellow 56 and black 63 plates later on.
I'm not 100% sure but I assume the numbers could be the same but the serial numbers on the year stickers would be different. Law enforcement usually checks the sticker numbers match the plate number.
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Daytona 24 Hour Race, Daytona, FL, 1966. Race winning Ford Mark II driven by Ken Miles & Lloyd Ruby makes a scheduled pit stop
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2021-02-08 07:12
Thank you for clarification, that makes sense now. so our 57s would only keep the original yellow 56 plates if they were not registered post '63. It would be interesting to know if the black and gold 63 carried the same numbers/letters as the 56 plates ( if one kept his registraion valid, only with mandatory new plates). Say if the original owner of my 57 CS had the same CET 173 plates in yellow 56 and black 63 plates later on.
When the new plates were issued, they did not have the same set of characters as the new plate. The plates were sent out without regard to the plate it was replacing.
In California, they just kept reusing the same numbers and letters over and over. They have had so many vehicle registrations, by the millions of vehicles, they ran out of number combinations.
You become aware of this when you try to find a unused plate number for the YOM (Year of Manufacture) DMV plate program. I had some 1951 plates in my hand, and they said that the number was on a Toyota Truck, but it had not been registered in six years. At the end of the seventh year, I returned with my pristine 1951 plates and had them registered to my 1955 Deluxe Barn Door bus.
The DMV has a lot of weird rules for the YOM program that make no sense.
John
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Hemidave #5432 WOW! It's hard to believe that they used those dangerous bumper jacks in the old days. That person also has it on the dirt. I'm happy that in these days most of us just have them for decoration.
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Jay, in regard to the bumper jacks, I'm sure most of us had a close call when we were young and bullet prof. In about 64, my best friend and I were changing out a rear end in his 55 ford convert. and had it jacked up with 2 bumper jacks. It was a very hot afternoon and his mother said come into the house for a cool drink, so we did. when we came back outside the 55 was setting on the ground. Since that time when ever I have anything jacked up to work on I have blocks under it. There are some things we just don't forget.
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WOW! they use to race at San Fernando drag strip.
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Quote from: alvin stadel on 2021-02-12 09:02
Jay, in regard to the bumper jacks, I'm sure most of us had a close call when we were young and bullet prof. In about 64, my best friend and I were changing out a rear end in his 55 ford convert. and had it jacked up with 2 bumper jacks. It was a very hot afternoon and his mother said come into the house for a cool drink, so we did. when we came back outside the 55 was setting on the ground. Since that time when ever I have anything jacked up to work on I have blocks under it. There are some things we just don't forget.
Alvin I had a very similar problem with my very first car a 51 Ford. I was next to it The car went sideways. One jack went flying and hit me in the head. I drove myself to Boston City Hospital for stitches and still have the scar to show it. From then on it was always underneath jacks and lots of chock blocks. Also think of all the beautiful bumpers that got damaged. Jay
Arlington, Washington 1963
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WOW! A Y block in a Falcon, that gives me an idea for my extra engine.
The Autolite hat guy is saying get me the Saw-z-all, we'll just cut out the shock tower to firewall supports and the top of the core support, we will make it fit.
289 Windsor Falcon's were running deep into the 11's when that Y Block photo was taken.
They probably had a straight axle set up.
I would like to put my engine in a Chevy just to piss them off :003:
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Montesa was a Spanish dirt bike Manufacturer. Ossa, Bultaco were in there to. Is that Dan Gurney?
Quote from: rmk57 on 2021-02-15 20:44
Montesa was a Spanish dirt bike Manufacturer. Ossa, Bultaco were in there to. Is that Dan Gurney?
Gurney, was big into motorcycles. His last motorcycle project was a recumbent motorcycle called The Gator. His shop is in Santa Ana, CA, and they made mostly military items. Very cool car guy.
Yes, I believe it is.
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I recall reading about some guys at Ford swapping a Y block V8 into a new 1960 Falcon, for a Ford executive, William Clay Ford, I believe. Don`t forget, this was a couple of years before the 221/260/289 small block Ford V8s were introduced . I seem to recall the swap was covered by Motor Trend or Car Craft magazine.
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Interesting Vegas photo..........I'm not sure I've seen an OLD pic of a '57 that color.......it's a not stock color is it? and what the heck kind of car is that woman walking past? Must be an MG or Triumph with a removable hardtop?
My guess is Auston Healy with a top on it.
that Sunliner appears to be mildly customized. it has chromed potmetal tailfins. the anodized side trim panels are painted black, the rear Fairlane V emblem has been removed. also the quarter panels scripts. It does look sweet imho.
my guess on the British car is Triumph Tr3 or Tr2. I think the fender beading and the gravel guard is the giveaway. My ex father in law has one. very neat and sporty car, can be driven fast on winding country roads.
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That Y-Block Falcon was built for Mrs Ford in 1960. She liked the Falcons size but, it was too slow stock.
Hot Rod had the story on it.
Ron.
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Joe
It's nice to have you back again. Jay
That pic, Jay ! I was immediately thinking about you and Baumi....hahaha
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Thanks Jay!
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Quote from: Günter on 2021-02-26 03:37
That pic, Jay ! I was immediately thinking about you and Baumi....hahaha
Actually Günter
That picture reminds me a lot of my youth because that's exactly how I fixed my cars in the old days growing up in Boston.
I didn't have a garage so I fixed them on the sidewalk and did engine swaps in an ally. Jay
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Quote from: Ecode70D on 2021-02-26 06:56
Actually Günter
That picture reminds me a lot of my youth because that's exactly how I fixed my cars in the old days growing up in Boston.
I didn't have a garage so I fixed them on the sidewalk and did engine swaps in an ally. Jay
I can relate to that. My garage was built for model A and the 57 didn't fit so work was in the alley outside :005:
WOW! Jim
You really were a back alley fixer upper and you have the picture to prove it. I never thought of having a picture
taken. Actually in those days, cameras cost money and then it cost money to have the film developed. Just think, that white 57 in your picture was still a baby less than 10 years old. Jay
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2021-02-26 10:37
WOW! Jim
You really were a back alley fixer upper and you have the picture to prove it. I never thought of having a picture
taken. Actually in those days, cameras cost money and then it cost money to have the film developed. Just think, that white 57 in your picture was still a baby less than 10 years old. Jay
I never took pictures of a lot of my cars back in those days. This one was taken by an aunt that was visiting. That picture was 1966 so I was 19. The car is actually a light blue model.
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One of the first camper trailers?
Notice they opened the window to make it more aerodynamic with high speed air flow. Maybe there's a ski boat on that trailer, and the house landed on it perfectly during a hurricane? What ever the real story is, that photo was taken pre photoshop.
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Jacksonville FL
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Quote from: hiball3985 on 2021-03-02 19:57
Jacksonville FL
Cool shot, nothing but Fords in the front row. Interesting that the 58 Country Squire hardly looks much larger than the Falcon.
Quote from: 59meteor on 2021-03-03 06:55
Cool shot, nothing but Fords in the front row. Interesting that the 58 Country Squire hardly looks much larger than the Falcon.
That is strange, I should have mentioned that was the original place opened in 1953.
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Quote from: hemidave on 2021-03-04 06:38
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I sure hope he offers up Gilligan a ride in that Shelby!
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2021-03-07 07:55
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1961 Meteor 390 tri power car, bet that Ford of Canada never built many of those at Oakville !
And I was wondering why the trim looked so "odd".
Sure would like to see some more 61 Meteor pics. Anybody have some?
Did they make a Starliner?
Ron.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2021-03-08 04:58
https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2014/02/27/the-tasca-ford-of-vermont-the-brief-life-of-drag-racing-powerhouse-willis-ford
https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2014/02/27/the-tasca-ford-of-vermont-the-brief-life-of-drag-racing-powerhouse-willis-ford
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Early this morning, somewhere in Cranberry Land, USA ! :002:
I wonder what Jake is up for today. Probably just warming up the engine for some illegal Race-around-the-Cranberry-bog....some kids never grow up! :003:
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I thought Jaybirds plow car had four headlights?
Nawh.... John V opposed and so the community workers had to remove them in favor of the factory delete units.
also when you smash them in a bog race, now you only have to replace 2 of them instead of 4... :003:
I didn't get invited :005: I want to bog race too :003:
I took a chance and put the plow truck away and brought home the girls...
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Quote from: hiball3985 on 2021-03-10 16:02
I didn't get invited :005: I want to bog race too :003:
Jim
Cranberry bogs are not good enough for your nice Ranchero. There are better places for you and your car to see
like Plymouth rock, the Mayflower, or even America's very first divided highway. Jay
Ford England 1931
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Having extra time during this last years shut down I've spent more time watching videos then I normally do. This was a pretty good Ford video if you have time to waste like me :003:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrOikS5B2gs
Dunno.... ?
Somebody had told me they carry lots of parts for 57s, but could not find any that would fit my Del Rio.... :017: :018:
:003:
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2021-03-14 06:15
Dunno.... ?
Somebody had told me they carry lots of parts for 57s, but could not find any that would fit my Del Rio.... :017: :018:
:003:
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Now that is funny! I'm surprised they even allowed that Del Rio in their parking lot. For the FORD guys here, Danchuk is the largest parts supplier for tri five chevie's in the country.
That photo was taken only five miles from my house.
John
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Danchuk will have the electric wiper motor that works on our 57's.
Ron.
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That's a sophisticated race machine ! Very interesting car and cool pic !
Do you have any further information Joe ? is that 260 number a hint to the engine maybe ?
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With the front axle tipped back so far that coupe should go straight as an arrow.
Ron.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2021-03-19 06:28
That's a sophisticated race machine ! Very interesting car and cool pic !
Do you have any further information Joe ? is that 260 number a hint to the engine maybe ?
Jerry Kugel's first race car. 165 record with a 265" SBC in 1962.
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It did have a FE in it at one time:
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Wonder who made those heads?
Ron.
Quote from: SkylinerRon on 2021-03-20 19:12
Wonder who made those heads?
Ron.
Someone thought it was Art Sparks in the '30s
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Would have to be 37 up with the block mounted water pumps.
make it '39 up ( 24 stud).
As said, supposedly Art Sparks just before the war.
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Found this yesterday, promoting rush hour, 4th gear and 15 miles per hour.
:canada:
Lola pre GT40.
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Joe
I liked to watch the old series of leave it to Beaver, especially the ones where his father drove a 57 Ford.
The question is... Who broke the side window?., Was it Beaver or Wally?
Thanks for posting it Jay
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Quote from: Ecode70D on 2021-03-24 06:33
Joe
I liked to watch the old series of leave it to Beaver, especially the ones where his father drove a 57 Ford.
The question is... Who broke the side window?., Was it Beaver or Wally?
Thanks for posting it Jay
Looks like the Beaver has the bat in his hand. Guilty as charged :003:
I remember that episode, Ward and June were going out with some friends and told wally and the beav not to play ball around the car, after a wild pitch the ball broke the window. They checked around and cost to much to get it fixed so they rolled the window down. The next day they were going on drive and June was in the back seat with one of the boys cant remember which one and didn't like the wind blowing on her and asked if the window could be rolled up so the boys looked at other stunned not knowing what to do, so Ward told him to roll it up and when he did the window was fixed. Ward had it fixed that morning thinking he broke it when he slammed the door to hard, the true story came out later what really happened.The good old days.
Speaking of Ward...
Ford Trader Thorne Sales Training Film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL2U5xDou_g&t=14s
Jim Wally and the Beaver were certainly involved
Thank you chero A lot of time has gone by since that episode was aired. You filled in a lot of details
Joe I saw Hugh Beaumont's name on the training film.
One more question. Was their 57 Ford a Custom or a Fairlane? I can't figure it out from that picture.
I believe the Cleaver Ford was a Custom model. The Fairlane and Fairlane 500 models have stainless trim around the windows and over the center post.
Olddave. Thank you . That makes sense to me.
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The truck has been recently found
I found mine in my man cave.
Where did they find BIG Big Red?
Terry
:canada:
After the 1964 World Fair and Ford gave up on the idea it was given to Holman & Moody. Then later sold to a private collector in North Carolina in the 80's. It's only the truck now but in prime condition. The trailers are missing..
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that is utterly fantastic !!!!
Considering the Shoebox is not filling up in Hometown, USA but in Sweden ! The architecture of the gas station is just gorgeous !
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2021-03-29 17:20
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Joe, I don't recognize this car. Please elaborate. :)
1956 Chevy, my bad :-X I need to start paying attention....
Reconciliation pic:
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Joe # 5570 is a WHAT? Who makes those things?
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2021-03-29 18:18
1956 Chevy, my bad :-X I need to start paying attention....
Reconciliation pic:
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Thats MUCH better! :004:
Yeah, sorry guys; as I have said before, I store them in a file labeled "old cars" and I just go in and pull out a pic every time I post. If I do it from my phone or tablet instead of my PC, the screen is much smaller, add in not wearing my glasses and well, what looked like a Ford grill..... :deadhorse:
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2021-03-29 09:23
that is utterly fantastic !!!!
Considering the Shoebox is not filling up in Hometown, USA but in Sweden ! The architecture of the gas station is just gorgeous !
That is interesting, It looks like they sell different brands all in one place?
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#5576 looks like Lumpy and his 40 ford convert. from leave it to beaver, I remember the episode when Wally and Eddie rapped a chain around the rear end and the other end to a tree and when he took off it jerked the rear end out.
Quote from: 57chero on 2021-03-30 11:24
#5576 looks like Lumpy and his 40 ford convert. from leave it to beaver, I remember the episode when Wally and Eddie rapped a chain around the rear end and the other end to a tree and when he took off it jerked the rear end out.
57chero
That could be Lumpy and his 40 convertible.
Didn't Mr + Mrs Cleaver refer to the 40 as an old junk box or something like that?
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Glendale ford used car lot . This is the dealership that my car was purchased from new.
As some of you know, I have been working on this 57 Bird, and as I began to wrap up the project, I noticed it had a little vibration at idle. Well it ended up having a bad balancer: it was wobbling and beginning to pull apart.
as you can see from the pic, it was pretty beat up:
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No biggie, I figured I'd pull it and replace it. I had no idea the Bird Y blocks used a different balancer than our cars and that it required a special puller. I called several board members here figuring that one of them would have a puller but to no avail. I finally found someone who had a new one for $45 and I grabbed it. It's pretty nice for the money actually.
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I was able to locate a balancer for $175, pretty reasonable I thought. It even came with a speedy sleeve:
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For those of you who aren't familiar with the bird balancer and puller, it actually fits in the two slots in the pulley and actually pulls from the pulley:
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Anyways, if any of you guys need one, I have one you can borrow.
Yes great pictures!
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I would have loved to have this car for a family vacation in 1971. I could almost hear one of the kids in the back asking dad to pass the string of cars on an uphill section of road, with father
calming replying " no problem son".
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rmk57 that Torino is in a garage about one mile from me and it is the real deal one of one. Jviera
Hemmings did an article on it if you search for 429 Torino Squire wagon it will come up. Jviera
Quote from: jviera on 2021-04-17 16:36
Hemmings did an article on it if you search for 429 Torino Squire wagon it will come up. Jviera
That's where I stole the picture from. I have also seen the same thing but in a Ranchero Squire, which has to be rare also.
Quote from: jviera on 2021-04-17 16:36
Hemmings did an article on it if you search for 429 Torino Squire wagon it will come up. Jviera
https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/the-reverse-mullet-1971-ford-torino-squire
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2021-04-18 06:55
https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/the-reverse-mullet-1971-ford-torino-squire
Interesting story but several errors. First of, I guarantee that wagon is much heavier than 3600 pounds, my buddy`s 70 Torino GT 429 4 speed was over 4000 lbs, I imagine this wagon is closer to 4200. They implied that a similar 2 door would be 3100 pounds, maybe with no engine in it!
They also said the 429 Super Cobra Jet had cap screw connecting rods, which is incorrect. The FE 428 SCJ had cap screw connecting rods, but the 429-460s never did, SCJ, Boss 429, or otherwise. Regardless, a very cool car. It said there was only 6 of these built, a racing buddy in British Columbia had one of the other 5 429 CJ Squire wagons. His was a whiteish/grey, with the woodgrain and Shaker hood. My buddy bought the wagon in the early 80s, and swapped the CJ and Shaker into his N code 429 ThunderJet 70 Torino GT, which originally had the 360 429 and 4 speed, with the non functional GT scooped hood. I think he had the shell scrapped, but kept the 31 spline Nodular 9" rearend, and C6. I had the wagons original 4 bolt main block for years, but sold it to another friend a while back. It has the partial VIN stamped into the block. Be cool to get a Marti report for that wagon.
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Holman Moody Challenger Falcon
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Kinda UGLY!!
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2021-04-22 19:41
Kinda UGLY!!
Since the Mustang was just around the corner I didn't get it either.
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"They were known as Challengers. Challenger I was sectioned 3" and road raced across the pond. Challenger II was a road car, also sectioned 3" and painted blue. Challenger III was chopped and sectioned as the pictures above show.
Still, considering the effort to section a car it's remarkable there's been at least 4 Falcons receive this treatment.
Challenger 1, a '62 Falcon Futura Holman & Moody built to run at Sebring in '62. They exchanged the original 6 cylinder for the just introduced Fairlane 221 cubic inch V-8. The decision to run this car at Sebring was made just 2 weeks prior to the race and this car was built in only 10 days. Ralph Moody tested the car himself at an area of the Charlotte Airport they were allowed to test on. Team drivers Marvin Panch and Jocko Maggiacomo finished 2nd in the class behind Jim Hall in his Chapparral. This was an amazing accomplishment considering it was just a thought 2 weeks earlier and the 221 was an untested engine for racing purposes. But Holman & Moody had that ability."
That was quite an accomplishment in such a short time frame. My 1962 Fairlane was originally a 221. Ran it for several years and then my son used it in a Falcon when I changed to a big block. Tough little motor just like it's larger siblings 260, 289, 302, 351.
James
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Joe, I won't be the one to say it. But you may want to check the leaf springs, 6 bolt wheels and the ribs in the body of that Coke truck ! :002:
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2021-04-26 03:19
Joe, I won't be the one to say it. But you may want to check the leaf springs, 6 bolt wheels and the ribs in the body of that Coke truck ! :002:
What is the make DJ? I have no idea on most of these old trucks but the website I picked it up from had it listed as a
"Coca-Cola Ford Model AA panel delivery truck in El Paso, Texas, 1931."https://www.flickr.com/photos/151978315@N04/45462295605
Not totally sure of the make, but Id go with Ch*******. certainly not Ford. the chassis and lengthways leaf springs and wheels are a dead giveaway its not a Ford. They put false info to that pic. it is a neat oldtimey truck though.
Yeah, I think Cxxxy changed from the disc wheels to wire wheels in 1931 so that would probably be a 26-30 Cxxxy.
James
Definitely an old Ford ! :002:
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Nice tail dragger DJ!
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Story with that pic? looks like a storm damaged area/car?
Sorry Rich, I have no info on that picture at all. I tried when I stumbled across it as I was curious also, but no luck. bawl
It looks like the car has been shipped to Vancouver and is at the waterfront getting ready for delivery to a dealership. The tonneau covers are unsnapped to either dry the car out from a train ride or drive it to it's destination. Fogg motors would have been the Western Canada distributor for Shelby Cobras.
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I wouldn't say it's a Ford advertisement because of the hook, but it's darn close. From a TV series?
Quote from: rmk57 on 2021-05-05 09:13
I wouldn't say it's a Ford advertisement because of the hook, but it's darn close. From a TV series?
If I am right, I believe that was a scene from the "Twilight Zone", where the car owners were stuck in a small town restaurant, waiting for car repairs.
Quote from: 59meteor on 2021-05-05 12:24
If I am right, I believe that was a scene from the "Twilight Zone", where the car owners were stuck in a small town restaurant, waiting for car repairs.
Yes, William Shatner starred in it. They went to a restaurant that had a "fortune telling" machine, and he was infatuated with it.
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What year Ford is Liz sitting in, 57 or 58?
The knobs are white so '58.
Door panel and 1/4 panel side trim are also 58 Ford Fairlane 500.
Quote from: gasman826 on 2021-05-11 15:44
The knobs are white so '58.
Good thinking Gary and Lou.
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That Edsel wagon is DROP DEAD GORGEOUS!!! I would love that car!!!!
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Dearborn Motors, Kamloops, B.C. still in business.
T
:canada:
Dave, are you deleting your images again?
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Sorry that I haven't been posting much lately, but been really busy and by the time I get home at night or get up in the morning, I'm too tired to post.
Anyways, I managed to take some time to go to the Halifax cruise Friday with my buddy and we stopped in to see Jay on the way there and all went together.
It was a good time and I met another forum member and got to see his beautiful Ranchero.
Jay sent me these pics to post:
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When you look closely at picture #4 with the green and white 57 Fairlane you will see 3 white 57 Fords with the hoods raised. Those are Joe's Fairlane, Mike's Thunderbird and my custom. Unfortunately we did not get better pictures while at the cruise.
Great to see you all got out together. That was a great looking group of '57's!!! Thanks for posting.
Rich
For sure there were three members at that cruise last Friday. Jay
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Thank you Joe for posting Jays pictures. So good to see you guys having the cars out..
My pleasure Hiball
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Joe
The weather liars are already saying that this coming Friday June 5, we will have rain. If so I will not be going to the Halifax cruise.
I don't like to deliberately drive my car in the rain.
. How about next week June 2 ? We'll be in touch by phone.
Jay
Jay, I'm going' rain, is Thursday night into Friday morning, the sunny and HOT!
My wife took the night off of work weeks ago so that she could attend.
Also spoke with John and if he is free, he will be going also.
Colorado 55
CA wagon.
$1,000 at Colorado swap meet.
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One of the coolest 57 Ranchero pics ever posted, Joe.
Loving everything about it. Car is bone stock with no foolish add-ons, but has that super nice California rake stance and the front is dropped oh so much. Very simple car, GREAT result. I totally love 57s like that!
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2021-06-23 05:03
My pleasure Hiball
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I agree 100% almost makes me want to put wide whites and full hub caps on mine. I don't care what kind of car you have , it all comes down to wheel and tire choice and stance and this one is right on the money.
Gotta watch opening that passenger door, some those curbs are pretty high in the LA area.
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I saw 11 Edsels today while at the upholstery shop. They were too far away to get pictures. It must've been the Edsel club leaving an eatery a block and a half up the street. There were a couple convertibles and even a station wagon.
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^ very, very cool pic, Joe !!!
Wheel covers on a Shelby, I didn't realize they did that.
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Hang 'Em High.
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cool pic...I love the flathead welder:
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Quote from: rmk57 on 2021-09-09 19:00
Hang 'Em High.
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Thanks Randy, thats one of my favorite shots of my Fairmont.
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Saw this at a shop last week, 16,000 miles on it. Most of them on road race tracks in the Northwest.
My neighbours son-in-law bought it new, painted it Grabber Green and raced it then sold it. His son found it and returned it to its showroom colours.
Terry
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Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2021-09-16 10:45
Saw this a shop last week, 16,000 miles on it. Most of them on road race tracks in the Northwest.
My neighbours son-in-law bought it new, painted it Grabber Green and raced it then sold it. His son found it and returned it to its showroom colours.
Terry
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I've never seen a Boss 302 in that colour before. Special order or added into later production?
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Randy,
I don't remember seeing another silver/grey Boss either, this was bought from West Coast Motors in Haney.
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2021-09-17 11:29
Randy,
I don't remember seeing another silver/grey Boss either, this was bought from West Coast Motors in Haney.
My Boss 429 came from that same dealership.
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2150 to Headquarters;
Suspect driving fender-less coupe has escaped.
Send the wrecker.
...I told Motor Equipment the 4:10 cog was going to be too
:091: steep for freeway work.
Asking for trouble on this one.... :003:
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haha ! :003:
Her facial expression is priceless. Just realized what she will be in for life.... :002:
Yep, but she should have known when she saw the license plate.
Double Cool.
Terry
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A local historian thinks this could have been Bill Ireland or Les Ritchey's Thunderbolt.
I remember it running back in the day.
Terry
:canada:
Bill Carson.... isn't that the guy Angel Eyes was trying to find? :003:
Seriously though, I wonder what happened to that car? Did it get restored or junked?
Randy, if you are refering to the photo of Gary Wanless`s Thunderbolt, the car got cut up, and the body/chassis scrapped. I met Gary many years ago, and he showed me a bunch of photos, first the car was factory looking, then progresses to the altered wheelbase version in that photo, he then built a Cougar Funny Car, using the 427 running gear from the Thunderbolt, and scrapping whatever was left over. Keep in mind, by the later 60s, cars like the Thunderbolt were basically older, non competitive cars, with no real value any more. In the mid-late 70s, there was a guy from Bellingham Washington racing a real Thunderbolt at Mission Raceway, and when Mission shut down at the end of the 1978 season, Larry, the TBolt owner put the Thunderbolt up for sale, turnkey, with towbar setup, running 11.4s with a 428 and C6, for $4500. Us, which was basically at par with the Canadian dollar at that time. I seriously considered getting a bank loan to buy the car, but with the local race track gone, and me in the middle of moving to an apartment, it really was not practical.Now, the aluminum front bumper would likely be worth $4500. by itself!
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Whats the engine in the roadster? Thought it was an Olds until I noticed it only has three exhaust ports per side.
Quote from: thomasso on 2021-10-19 18:05
Whats the engine in the roadster? Thought it was an Olds until I noticed it only has three exhaust ports per side.
I'm guessing Cadillac?
Low res image, but, "ear" engine mounts, three exhaust ports, perimeter bolted cover... seems like all but Cad have been eliminated?
yes Norms old 'Kookie' T had a Cad.
Is that king-of-kool Kat Stevo, looking over his smashed Cobra ?
Ni, this was posted with the pic, although I do not know the author...
"1967
This was my mom's 289 Cobra. The brakes faded while racing at Willow Springs and ran off the race into a small ditch. The sad story was that is was sold as is thus it wasn't handed down to me! She was the #1 California Women's State Champion (3rd overall - including men's).
BTW, my dad crash two 427 Cobras! One he rolled 5 times, another hand me down lost!"
This link to his Flickr account provides some background if you read the comments:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/4durt/2073687313/
Thank you Joe, now I see that is a Lady driver !
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2021-10-20 16:12
yes Norms old 'Kookie' T had a Cad.
Norm lived up here in my area. My friend that I got my T85 trans from built a tribute car replica, one of his thirty cars.
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Built Ford Tough....
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^ nice line of Mustang Fastbacks, but whats really rare is the 1967 Sports Top International Scout !
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A 1966 Fairlane at a local show, my '39 is behind it.
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I like that Fairlane, was it a 390 GTA, or a different 4 speed model?.
The emblem on the grill says XL. So no GT 390 engine but could have the regular 390 4 bbl. or 390 2 bbl. If I didn't have my 57 This would be my second choice for a nice driver.
Beautiful looking car.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2021-11-16 09:20
The emblem on the grill says XL. So no GT 390 engine but could have the regular 390 4 bbl. or 390 2 bbl. If I didn't have my 57 This would be my second choice for a nice driver.
Beautiful looking car.
Thanks, my memory is going south, I think the GT also had stripes if I recall.
I agree, that's why I took the pic, a '66-'67 Fairlane (or Galaxy) will be my next car, but with this garage project, I doubt I will ever be able to afford another car.....
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Before I bought my 57 I went and looked at a 66 Fairlane GTA in Gresham, Oregon. Same dark green as the bullet Mustang with parchment interior. Overall the car was pretty good, very rust free and 95% original. It had a right side quarter panel replaced on it that the owner didn't mention on the phone when talked about it. Could have had it for 6k but I thought it was a little high. Now it would be worth 3 times that much. Oh well, you win some you lose some.
My first semi serious street strip car was a 66 Fairlane 390 GTA hardtop, original paint,black ,white GT stripes, and red interior. Ran mid 12s at 110 MPH in the mid 70s, sold it less engine, trans, and I replaced the 4.56 31 spline Detroit locker 9" back to the original 3.25 28 spline setup. Sold it in 1978 for $300.00, pretty sure the factory GT hood alone would be worth twice that today. Just one of a dozen or so that I wish I would have kept!
I thought the '66 Fairlane had the coolest look! But I also thought the Fairlane's big brother, the '65 Galaxie, was even better. Since Ford planned to release the '65 Galaxie with the new L and M code engines...427 4V SOHC and the 427 8V SOHC.
I bought a nice 65 Galaxy with a 390 for the wife from a guy I worked with in 1975 for $250 I think the color was called Vintage Burgundy? He said the trans wasn't shifting right and probably needed rebuilding. It only needed a new vacuum modulator :002:
In 65 when I graduated from high school I ordered a 65 Fairlane 2 dht, with a 289 hipro. Man that thing was wild, and so was I. I drove it for 3 years and every piece of sheet metal was replace at least once except for the roof, I never tipped it over.
Quote from: alvin stadel on 2021-11-17 09:43
In 65 when I graduated from high school I ordered a 65 Fairlane 2 dht, with a 289 hipro. Man that thing was wild, and so was I. I drove it for 3 years and every piece of sheet metal was replace at least once except for the roof, I never tipped it over.
Thats funny Alvin. It must be nice to have new car right out of school. In 65 I was driving a 54 Chevy that burned a quart of oil a day :005: In 66 I got a 57 Ford and have never looked at another brand since..
Back in the late 70's into the 80's I used to buy Galaxies as winter beaters. Everything from Custom 500's, LTD's to Country Squires, had them all. One of the most abused but dependable cars
I've ever owned was 1965 Custom 500. Bought it for $100, drove it through the winters for 4-5 years, then sold it to a buddy for $100 as he wanted the 289 for his 63 Fairlane wagon. Ford really did have those cars sorted out. I guess that's why they were used so much for police, taxis, etc...
You are right Jim, it was nice. I worked and saved all though high school and saved all the money I could. If I remember right the fairlane cost me $2250 or close to it. I think I still have the paper work for it in my showroom. I had to borrow $400.00 from my dad so that I could pay cash for it. At the time I also had 2 real nice 57's. After the new car came they got to rest quit a bit.
Quote from: alvin stadel on 2021-11-17 14:08
You are right Jim, it was nice. I worked and saved all though high school and saved all the money I could. If I remember right the fairlane cost me $2250 or close to it. I think I still have the paper work for it in my showroom. I had to borrow $400.00 from my dad so that I could pay cash for it. At the time I also had 2 real nice 57's. After the new car came they got to rest quit a bit.
I worked a few part time jobs during high school but they barely paid for my gas LOL. And now 60 years later I may need to get a job to pay for my gas! :005:
Jim, all I say to that is "thank you Uncle Joe" Believe it or not I still have some gas recepts from when I worked in one of the local gas stations, .35 cents for premium. Not sure why but if I did not run the high test gas my old 312 would ping like crazy. I bought that car off the Ford used car lot, never done anything to it, and it run like a wild ape. I had a friend that built a 57 bow tie, with a wild cam and all the goodies and I would run all over him. He still gets pissed when we talk about it, but my old 312 was bone stock.
Got my first "real" car in 67 after getting home from Nam. Young, bullet proof and full of vinegar with a pocket full of jingle saw a 63 1/2 Galaxie with a "Z code" 390, 4 speed, 3.89 T-lock that had my name all over it. 12 MPG was no problem then, premium was $.33 a gallon, Uncle Sugar paid me well (At least I thought so).
Today I am working on thinning the herd as driving everything once a week has put the hurts on the budget. Uncle Joe has tried to kill the oil industry without thinking past the end of his nose. Yup, we should look at ways to reduce CO2 emissions but lets figure it out before killing off the heart blood of the economy.
Off my soap box now!
I'd like to get on my soap box as I'm sure many others would but we will be spanked for getting into politics. And we need to stick to 57's. So drive them while you can. I drive all of mine at least once a week to keep them running and we are getting right to the $5 a gallon here.
Still under 3 for regular here, which tells me it's more local/state than Uncle Sam. Mid grade, which is what I use in my '57 is about 3.30
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2021-11-18 10:24
Still under 3 for regular here, which tells me it's more local/state than Uncle Sam. Mid grade, which is what I use in my '57 is about 3.30
I think we have the second highest state tax at about $.50 a gallon, but that hasn't changed.. so state and local taxes haven't effected it. They claim it's just demand after the restrictions were lifted and more people are out and about and the price of crude OPEC is charging rather then using our own oil like we did previously and that can be blamed on uncle Sam.
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2021-11-17 10:22
Thats funny Alvin. It must be nice to have new car right out of school. In 65 I was driving a 54 Chevy that burned a quart of oil a day :005: In 66 I got a 57 Ford and have never looked at another brand since..
Jim
In 1965 you were driving an oil burning 54 WHAT????
I'm happy to hear that you got straightened out in 66 and got into a 57 Ford.
Your secret is safe. Don't worry. I'm not going to tell anyone. Jay
This is my father (sponsor) and brother-in-law with the freshly lettered 271 HP / 4-speed Comet, and 12's in the mid-60's. It had been a road race car before Ken bought it. He ran 5.67:1 on the street.Terry
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Found these at the local museum last week.
Terry
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Low 12's is pretty respectable for a little 289. Great pic Terry.
Quote: Thats funny Alvin. It must be nice to have new car right out of school. In 65 I was driving a 54 Chevy that burned a quart of oil a day :005: In 66 I got a 57 Ford and have never looked at another brand since.
Err, a quart of oil a day was just basic maintenance on a Chevy. :005:
October 19 1970. The date my Mustang was sold to it's new owner from West Coast Ford. Photo was taken a couple days after he bought it. I asked the him about the missing chin spoiler and he
said it never came with one.
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Randy, I wonder if maybe the Boss 429s were shipped with the front spoiler uninstalled, meant to be put on during the pre delivery inspection. Supposedly the early Mustangs were supposed to have the rear tie down brackets removed from the rear frame rails during PDI, but as I have seen plenty of cars with them still on. Maybe the spoiler got "lost", or otherwise left off. (Flat rate and all...)
Randy, hard to tell in the photo, but did your car come with a factory installed radio? I can not see the antenna on the RF fender. I know some BC Ford dealers ordered their stock without radios, and installed radios themselves afterwards. A buddy still owns the same Grabber Green M code Shaker 70 Sportsroof that he bought new in 1970, from Eagle Motors on East Hastings in Burnaby, that was radio delete. I have a buddy here in Nova Scotia whose family owned a Ford-Meteor , and later Ford dealership from 1958 thru 2014, and he told me that they often ordered new cars without a radio.
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Randy, I wonder if maybe the Boss 429s were shipped with the front spoiler uninstalled, meant to be put on during the pre delivery inspection. Supposedly the early Mustangs were supposed to have the rear tie down brackets removed from the rear frame rails during PDI, but as I have seen plenty of cars with them still on. Maybe the spoiler got "lost", or otherwise left off. (Flat rate and all...)
Having worked at a large Ford Dealer during this period, I believe you are correct. I believe the spoiler was left off of the car to prevent shipping damage from truck loading ramps. If your dealer was like most, the new car get ready department did the very minimal to get them out the door, hammer the hubcaps on, then run it through the car wash.
At our dealership (Glendale, Arizona), adding the abs chin spoilers was a common accessory on the regular Mustangs. Things like power steering, air conditioning, radios, mag wheels, undercoating, etc. were common dealer added items. This was before the days of "tape" pin stripes, and ceramic protective paint coatings. Just like selling extended warranties, and financing packages they are all added profit centers for the dealership.
John
From what I gathered they were shipped with the spoilers, hardware and instructions in the trunk to be installed at the dealership. Mine was probably "borrowed" for another Mustang.
Mine has an am radio and the antennae is located on the right rear quarter. I actually prefer it that way rather than a fender. Most every 1970 Boss 429 I've seen have the standard door panels but with the deluxe interior. Wood grain dash / console / steering wheel, seatbelt light, auto front seat release and the rest. Kind of oddball but that's the they were.
40 some years ago I did manage to buy a brand new Boss 302 / 429 front Spoiler from my local Ford dealer. Took a bit of searching but did come up with one.
My first Mustang was a 70 Sportsroof non Mach 1,that I bought in 1976, Grabber Orange with a M code 351C 4 barrel with Shaker hood, rear spoiler, standard black interior, but with a Rim Blow steering wheel, console, and fold down rear seat. It had a AM radio, with an antenna on the RR 1/4 panel, which would contact the rear wing when the trunk was fully open. I should get the Marti report, to see if it was a radio delete car, since I believe the antenna location on a factory radio car was on the RF fender. That is where it was on my other Mustangs, 2 each 69 and 70 Mach 1s.
Just for comparison Rory here is my Boss 302 from 1975 I bought used at Richie Motors Lincoln / Mercury. The antennae is on the LR quarter, this was a heavily optioned car with a am/fm radio. The only thing it didn't seem to have are Magnums. It had 3.91 locking axle with an oil cooler to boot. I drove that thing to Los Angeles with my girlfriend, raced it at the old Irwindale drag strip.
Those were the days. One thing I forgot to mention is the prop rod to hold the trunk open because of the weight from the spoiler.
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We got room for one more family here in Texas, Tom!! Good to hear from you.
Good to see you again Tom. I think I can hear the Edsel's teeth chattering, poor baby..
Looks like a Ranchero, with an Edsel front clip..............Am I correct?
John
I believe you are John.
Tom
It's good to hear from you. You can keep all of that white stuff though.
Keep warm. Jay
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Looks like a Ranchero, with an Edsel front clip..............Am I correct?
John
Good eye..
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Especially the hazardous materials placard on deck lid.
I don't get it. Can't figure out what is painted on the deck lid. What does flames on the back of the car mean?
Pintos were infamous for gas tanks exploding (I think if memory serves, on a rear impact). I couldn't make out the "sign" on the trunk lid either, but Les apparently figured out it was a hazardous materials "label" you see on the big rigs. You're up early, Jay.
I think it was a pointed bolt on the rear bumper assembly that would puncture the tank. Did Ralph Nadar kill the Pinto or the Corvair, or both..
I installed some of the recall 'kits' that were to make the Pinto safe in a rear end collision. Extra bolts were installed in the tank strap slots to keep the straps from disconnecting, allowing the tank to leave the car. A plastic cover was zip tied to the rear end cover to reduce sparks if the tank contacted the rear end. A new fill tube replaced the original tube. The original fill tube flange was on the out side of the fender. The new fill tube flange was on the inside of the fender...less likely for the fill tube to be pulled from the tank in the event of a side-swipe collision. This kit did more to make Nader and the FEDs happy than make Pintos safer.
PICs are of my '66 Mercury land yacht before and after a rear collision. My 9-month pregnat wife was making a left turn into factory to pick me up after work. A Toronado driver never touched the brakes. Even this boat of a car couldn't take a rear hit without gas running down the street. The tank was located on edge between the rear end and trunk.
OK Boys....Now I get it I had forgotten all about the Pintos getting hit in the rear and the fires.
Out of site, out of mind.
I owned a 1972 Pinto. Worst part about that car it was an automatic, god it was gutless. Traded it off after 6 months of ownership on a 1981 Ex-RCMP Crown Victoria. The Crown Vic had a 351 H.O, 240 kph speedo, bucket seats, rubber floor mats and a huge trunk. It's strange it didn't have rear window cranks and the rear doors wouldn't open from the inside.
Only thing worst then a Pinto was a Vega :003:
Owned a 76 Bobcat ( Pinto ) for several years in the 80s. It was a great little car, used to drive it 80 mph. Rebuilt the 2300 engine at 100K. Ford had neglected to put oil squirt holes in the rods, consequently piston would scuff and they sounded terrible but wouldn't break. My daughter continued to drive it for several years to college and subsequent jobs. Pinto was a much better car than the Vega, terrible car. I worked at a Chevrolet dealer during the Vega era. Replaced many engines when practically new and still under warranty and warranties were short in those days. Was also a Ford service manager in the 70s. Other than the piston scuffing I can't remember anything particulary bad about Pintos. Bad rap brought on by press.
Vega engines only lasted 40,000 at average :005: And they were shipped on their nose in special train cars.
The Pinto was used as the lightweight body of many early Pro Stock drag cars.
I seem to remember a story of some team that figured out that the body had a lower drag coefficient if it was placed into the wind tunnel backwards for testing. Maybe that's why the flames were painted on in reverse flow?
In 74, we bought a new Pinto with the 2300 and 4 spd. I was asked multiple times if I had installed a 289. I thought it was the right sized engine for the car. We drove it for 10 years and 160,000 miles.
The Ford Pinto was actually not a bad car, the 2.0 and 2.3 OHC 4 cylinder engine evolved over many years, and were used in various forms long after the last Pinto rolled of the assembly line. The steering and front suspension was the basis for many race cars, street rod and kit cars, still widely used today. Certainly far better car than the Chevy Vega! While virtually every Vega either got a V6 or V8 swap before they were 10 years old, you still see the occasional 4 cylinder Pinto around. The Vega was also far more prone to rust than the Pinto. Still, about the only place you ever see a Pinto or Vega these days is at a dragstrip, but then again, how many early 70s Toyotas, Datsuns, Hondas or Mazda cars do you see on the roads either?
I know we are off topic but thats a common occurrence here :burnout:
For anyone who hasn't seen how Vegas were shipped. Another one of the Generals bright ideas :005:
We have a town here about 30 miles west of Amarillo called Vega. Just for grins one day, I checked the meaning of the name, and it's Spanish for "plain". In this case, I'm not sure if it meant plain , as in simple, or plain as in prairie. Kinda gave me a smile when I thought about it for the name for the Chevy plain-jane car
I'm pretty sure the car was named after one of the northern stars "Vega".
Interesting little dity I found when parting a 76 Pinto wagon. The rear end was an 8", 4 lugs, 3.73 T-Lock. Never followed up on how the rear was used, a fellow rodder bought it for one of his projects.
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Interesting little dity I found when parting a 76 Pinto wagon. The rear end was an 8", 4 lugs, 3.73 T-Lock. Never followed up on how the rear was used, a fellow rodder bought it for one of his projects.
V-6 maybe had the 8"? The place I worked at had a fleet of them used for building, electrical, plumbing inspectors. They all had 4 cylinders and had the integral carrier.
Besides blowing up if you were rear ended the biggest issue we had with them were the doors. They were huge and heavy for such a small car and we were constantly replacing the hinge pins from sagging doors.
Other than that they weren't a bad little car.
Yes, the V6 Pintos did have an 8" rearend. They were also only available with an automatic transmission , and had a factory high stall torque convertor. A buddy had a V6 Pinto wagon, actually moved along quite well. Speaking of the Chevy Vega, there is a guy back In British Columbia, that for quite a few years, has ran a business specializing in Vegas and Monzas, called "Daves Vega Village". I have to wonder how busy he can be, specializing in such cars, but I have talked to a racer here in Nova Scotia, (4000 miles from the Vega Village, and he has dealt with him, so I guess the niche market is big enough to be somewhat viable.
I bought a pinto station wagon for my wife in the late 70's. She hated it and only drove it once. I started driving it and put some big box speakers in the back with a 8 track stereo system and actually enjoyed it. It was a 4 speed manual tranny and that helped a little with the rpm's and shift points. I drove it about a year and sold it. It was good on fuel mileage and I had no mechanical issues with it while I owned it. It along with the Vegas were disposable tin cans.
not a fan of these 1970s compacts , but the Pinto engine family was actually used up into the mid 90s in Euro Fords. I have considered those several times for daily drivers but I just can't get over their ugliness. Also right now the parts availability for these 80s or 90s cars can become more difficult than for our collector 1950s cars.
They had very nice OD 5 spd manuals. A friend of mine from Germany put a 2L Pinto 4 into his Model A coupe and it's actually a very reliable, reasonable and pretty quick little car.
Fiz's Pinto powered A cpe.
Günter
I have to admit that full fendered Pinto powered Model A coupe does look kind of nice.
Jay it is a very solid and nicely built driver car. Certainly not to everybody's taste, but he built it for long distance cruises which he does, getting great mileage and reliability. He also has modern brakes, an alternator and 12V.
That little Pinto engine is a smart decision with the price of gas in Germany.
The "fire trap" moniker was a Nader overreach similar to the corvair. Ralph Naders organization petitioned the NHTSA in 1974 to recall Ford Pinto's but the NHTSA determined that there was not adequate evidence to warrant a recall. So in 1977 they published an article in the magazine "Mother Jones" leveling accusations against Ford and the NHTSA. The article included a clip out complaint coupon for readers to mail to the NHTSA. Nader held a press conference in Washington DC the following day, calling the Pinto a fire trap and submitted another request for investigation which pitted the NHTSA gainst Ford.
Under this pressure the NHTSA used a worst case test to justify recalling the Pinto. Rather than the regular rear impact test, they used a "bullet car" which was weighted to allow it to slide under the Pinto in order to impact the gas tank, and the headlights were turned on to provide an additional ignition source. Also the fuel tank was completely filled with gasoline rather than a partially filled tank as was the common test in 1977. This ensured that gasoline would be discharged from the tank.
A later review by Rutgers Law determined that the safety record for the Pinto was basically average for it class at the time.
I also think the "bum rap" against the Pinto was overblown. I can`t imagine that my 69 & 70 Mustangs, which had the gas tank as the trunk floor, (if you were to remove the gas tank, there is a large, rectangular hole in the trunk floor, mere inches ahead of the tail light panel, "protected" by a laughably thin and tiny bumper, bolted to the trunk floor). I imagine the "death trap Expose`", was manipulated, like the TV documentary that showed how GM PU trucks with the outboard "saddle" style gas tanks, would burst into flames in a side impact. My understanding was that GM proved that the TV show couldn`t get the test truck to catch fire as expected, so the producers elected to place devices under the truck to CAUSE a fire, and then claimed it was simply from the impact. The TV producers were found guilty .
Yes, regarding the GM trucks, they placed model rocket motors under the tank and filled the tank to the top , then placed the gas cap loosely so that gas would squish out on impact. They lit the rocket motors upon impact which ignited the gas that pushed out of the tank.
As with the Pinto, there had been a few horrible accidents but the trucks were no worse than others of the time.
I remember the recall to install shields on the Pintos back when I worked at the dealership. It was a piece of plastic abut 7 inches square and was like a piece of a Thermos lunch kit.
I also remember the NHTSA report that listed the highest deaths due to fire and Pinto was around #8 or #9. I believe the Volkswagen van was #3.
And the GM pickups were #1. Here is a report on them. https://www.autosafety.org/history-gm-side-saddle-gas-tank-defect/
I also spent a lot of time in the tow truck and never came across a burning Pinto, but one of the worst was a Father and his two sons in a GM pickup on fire, a very sad scene.
Terry
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I had a recall on my 1999 F-350 diesel. It was for "post collision fuel system integrity" or in layman's terms the fuel tank straps could break if you were t-boned. I guess it could be more of an issue if it were a gas engine.
Terry, the Volkswagen vans would self ignite on many occasions without an impact whatsoever. I love them dearly, but the fuel hoses and aftermarket filters, sitting right over the distributor and spark plug wires, and the tank sitting literally next to the engine and electrical systems caused many fires. even today. On our VW forum TheSamba, there is even a topic of buses on fire. Luckily some company has come up with an automatic fire extinguisher system (mainly a plastic hose filled with fire extinguishing chemicals) which cracks and spreads the powder when heat is applied. Good stuff that can also be used and zip-tied to conventional car hoods ( like our 57s) and may help in case of engine, carb or electrical fire in the engine compartment.
I see more newer cars that burn in collisions then I ever saw Pintos..
Ford had a recall on their ambulances in the mid 1980's for fires. Our service had purchased a new 1986 E350 when the recall started. Ford would only allow certain Ford dealerships to even touch them. We had to take ours to a dealer 2.5 hours away just for an oil change. Ford replaced both fuel tanks, special fireproof coolant hoses, louvered the hood and did a bunch of other things to it. They never did find the cause of the fires and finally gave up and would only allow diesels until about ten years ago. Here is a link to the recall.
https://www.autosafety.org/ford-ambulancevan-fuel-fed-fires/
That is interesting about Ford only allowing certain dealerships to work on ambulances. Where I used to live, there were 5 or 5 Ford dealerships within 45 minutes of my house, one always seemed to have 1/2 dozen ambulances in the service area, and none at the other dealers.
Could be under contract from Coastal Health or St. John's? Where I used to work Whites automotive across the street had a contract with the RCMP for all their vehicles. It may be easier to follow the paper trail if something goes wrong with a repair if there is only one dealer involved.
Ford was running scared at that time because they were the only company that supplied a chassis with a ambulance prep package and they had no idea what was causing the fires. They would only let certain techs even work on them. I know of one that started on fire in the ambulance bay at a hospital. After that some hospitals made you park outside because of the danger. The worst fires were the ones that happened when they were being driven. The fires would spread so fast people were lucky to get out with out being burned.
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cool Deuce
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Hello JOE, I am glad you are back. Your knot headed neighbor must have given you a break. I sure like looking at what you post, take care, Alvin
Thanks Alvin, glad to be back, I took ten days off to go to western New York hunting (about 575 miles from here). Been busy trying to get the electric company to approve a new 200 amp service drop for my shop, it's been 5 weeks and waiting...
As far as the neighbor goes, well lets just say he's still fighting my other neighbor and me. :deadhorse:
Anyways, how about a Ford pic, or shall I say pics:
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great pics Joe, as usual.
Now. Anybody else thinking this is not an actual old pic.
I feel something is phoney here. Why would anybody in their right mind in the 1940s or 1950s put such a HD logo advertising on their 32 rod and why uses 39 wheels. that 46ish Ford has much tooo much patina if it was a 10 year old car by then. there is a thinband whitewall (1963ish) tire on that steel wheel in the background. I say no. and NO.
this is the 2020 picture of what they think is the 1950s.
also the stance of that Deuce is too 'perfect' for a real 50s rod.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2021-12-17 16:59
cool Deuce
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So. Still looks cool!
Definitely yes! just asking if anybody else feels that this isn't what it looks to be.
imho, there is a whole lotta difference in what it used to be and what is shown today.
this, today, is still exactly how it was in 1955. The Williams Bros. 29 rdstr survivor. (and Goldenrod)
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Merry Christmas guys...
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Christmas wouldn't be complete without some great Norwell artwork!!
Thanks Jeff, and merry Christmas to you and all our members and families.
Cool art Jeff. Merry Christmas to all!
Merry Xmas everyone; beautiful artwork, as always Jeff!
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If you ordered a 67 or so big block Fairlane or Mustang would a 3-speed manual be standard equipment? I think it would be quite rare. I couldn't see a car for dealer inventory ordered that way and who in their right mind would factory order one like that. A 4-speed optional and an automatic a few bucks more than the stick?
Quote from: rmk57 on 2021-12-20 15:22
If you ordered a 67 or so big block Fairlane or Mustang would a 3-speed manual be standard equipment? I think it would be quite rare. I couldn't see a car for dealer inventory ordered that way and who in their right mind would factory order one like that. A 4-speed optional and an automatic a few bucks more than the stick?
I worked with a woman who bought a 67 Mustang 390 and 3speed so I'm guessing that is what came standard..
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Quote from: rmk57 on 2021-12-20 15:22
If you ordered a 67 or so big block Fairlane or Mustang would a 3-speed manual be standard equipment? I think it would be quite rare. I couldn't see a car for dealer inventory ordered that way and who in their right mind would factory order one like that. A 4-speed optional and an automatic a few bucks more than the stick?
My understanding was with the increasing insurance costs during the Muscle Car era, that the 3 speed was a way to avoid the higher insurance rates, as "four on the floor" was a trigger for "Hot Rod", where a 3 speed didn`t. I have seen 340 Dusters, 400 GTOs, 390 Mustangs etc with 3 speeds, although I am not aware of the higher performance muscle cars having a 3 speed available. (396/427/454 Chevys, 428 & 429 CJs, 440 and Hemi Mopars and the like). The price difference between a standard equipment 3 speed car, and a 4 speed was typically about $200., chump change these days, but back when those cars were new, that could be 3 car payments. Kinda like how a 69 Mustang Mach 1s base powertrain was a 351 2 barrel and 3 speed manual, seems silly that anybody would order a performance car like that, but quite a few did. At that time, the price increase for a 428 Cobra jet engine was only about $250.00 more, so while I may think who in their right mind wouldn`t go that route, but most didn`t. Don`t forget, in 1957, the price difference between a base Custom sedan, and a Fairlane 500 convertible was only 500 bucks or so, but back then, that was a lot of money. Plus I imagine many of these 3 speed performance cars were ordered for dealer stock, so they could advertise a new car in the newspaper, for a low price, even if that is not how most people would want a car like that. Get the potential buyers into the showroom to look at the bargain model, and then have the salesman try to upsell the more upscale model with more options. Been like that "forever".
"Bait and switch"
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Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2021-12-21 20:38
"Bait and switch"
This was a common practice. I worked at a Ford dealership back during the 1971 model year. They had a 1971 Galaxie two door sedan with a 6 cyl, no radio and just a heater. They used to advertise it as "Full Factory Equipped" That meant that it had what every base car got when it left the factory with NO options. It was a bright red with a 3 on the column but it was in the weekly newspaper add almost every week. They kept it the whole model year then heavily discounted it to get rid of it when the 1972's came out. I do not recall if they did the same thing with a 1972 model.
Found these on a Saskatchewan website.
Terry
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Bummer about the 66. I wonder if both those Fairlane's would have been w-code 427's? Could you get a 425 hp 427 with a steel hood or could you get a 390 hp version with the glass hood?
For some reason, the blue one doesn't look new. It's surprising what a wreck will do.
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Quote from: 59meteor on 2021-12-21 17:33
My understanding was with the increasing insurance costs during the Muscle Car era, that the 3 speed was a way to avoid the higher insurance rates, as "four on the floor" was a trigger for "Hot Rod", where a 3 speed didn`t. I have seen 340 Dusters, 400 GTOs, 390 Mustangs etc with 3 speeds, although I am not aware of the higher performance muscle cars having a 3 speed available. (396/427/454 Chevys, 428 & 429 CJs, 440 and Hemi Mopars and the like). The price difference between a standard equipment 3 speed car, and a 4 speed was typically about $200., chump change these days, but back when those cars were new, that could be 3 car payments. Kinda like how a 69 Mustang Mach 1s base powertrain was a 351 2 barrel and 3 speed manual, seems silly that anybody would order a performance car like that, but quite a few did. At that time, the price increase for a 428 Cobra jet engine was only about $250.00 more, so while I may think who in their right mind wouldn`t go that route, but most didn`t. Don`t forget, in 1957, the price difference between a base Custom sedan, and a Fairlane 500 convertible was only 500 bucks or so, but back then, that was a lot of money. Plus I imagine many of these 3 speed performance cars were ordered for dealer stock, so they could advertise a new car in the newspaper, for a low price, even if that is not how most people would want a car like that. Get the potential buyers into the showroom to look at the bargain model, and then have the salesman try to upsell the more upscale model with more options. Been like that "forever".
I do believe that a '66 SS 396 came with a bench seat and a 3 speed. I seem to remember it was floor shifted.
The other GM muscle cars (Buick, Olds, Pontiac) used Ford top loader 3 speeds because the Saginaw couldn't handle the torque. As mentioned previously, the 3 speed was a way around the added insurance cost for stigma of a 4 speed.
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A big visitor in the backyard today. Looks well fed but considering how scarce food is for moose in the winter I gotta figure that she's just pregnant. Probably worse for them this year since we got a lot of snow earlier than usual. They get pretty ornery as winter goes on & can be inclined to charge & stop ya real bad with very little provocation. They get even more dangerous once they drop their calves in the spring.
Moose jerky and steaks?
We did miss those "only-in'Alaska" pics, Tom!!
"Moose Jerky" I'll take the steaks any day over beef, probably the best, prime meat you could ever eat! Hands down!
Joe, I have had a couple of moose in my freezer, and yes they are very good eating. how ever I would never tell one of my Montana rancher friends they were better than beef.
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Moose jerky and steaks?
Shootin' a cow moose is usually illegal & come with some pretty tough penalties here. We ate plenty of moose when I was young. In his old age my ol' man said that he was sorry about killin' them & some other critters when they were just "out there tryin' to make a living".
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2021-12-27 10:17
We did miss those "only-in'Alaska" pics, Tom!!
You probably see other critters down there but hardly anything quite this. Sorry, not an old Ford in sight. : (
I have tons of moose pix but these ain't mine.
I recognize Bullwinkle but not the other two :003: Good to see you again Tom.
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Things you do not see in Car advertising... today.- - - no excitement or dreams.
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Jeff, do you mean you can't find excitement in a car you can plug in and charge? I can hardly wait :005:
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Things you do not see in Car advertising... today.- - - no excitement or dreams.
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Yeah, now all you will see is a Bi racial,same sex couple, loading up the SUV for a trip to a the park.
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Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2021-12-29 08:23
Things you do not see in Car advertising... today.- - - no excitement or dreams.
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Yeah, now all you will see is a Bi racial,same sex couple, loading up the SUV for a trip to the park.
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McLaren on the left, Miles on the right, at about this point Miles backs off allowing McLaren-Amon to take the win
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1972, the last year before government mandated "battering ram" bumper standards ruined new car styling.
5 mph bumpers are ugly, period, but
Ugly is one thing, then sexy....
well, in my eyes, that's a whole different animal....
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I spotted this at our local wreckers. Not sure what it is, some of the lettering is missing from the trunk lid. Would it be worth saving?
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Looks like the first two letters on the trunk lid are S H.........if so, how the heck did it end up there?
That is a 1968 SHELBY MUSTANG or a clone.
Somebody is not too smart to can that. If it is real it is worth a fortune. Just the deck lid, quarter extensions, rear body panel and lamps are $$$.
And here I thought I had about seen it all ...
If nothing else, why haven't the guys at the yard put it aside, unreal!
This photo was taken back in the 70's, but even then the car is collectable and worth saving. Looks like it was hit in the front?
Quote from: rmk57 on 2022-01-09 09:32
This photo was taken back in the 70's, but even then the car is collectable and worth saving. Looks like it was hit in the front?
I spotted this at our local wreckers. Not sure what it is, some of the lettering is missing from the trunk lid. Would it be worth saving?
So you was being funny when you said that.... :003:
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2022-01-09 10:04
I spotted this at our local wreckers. Not sure what it is, some of the lettering is missing from the trunk lid. Would it be worth saving?
So you was being funny when you said that.... :003:
Getting prepared for April 1st. :005:
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Not sure which one I want.
Hope you Mass guys are staying warm!
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Too bad no Marti reports were available prior to 1967, I think Kevin Marti would have trouble trying to narrow these Mustangs as "one of one"!
At least you would be able to say "My Dad had one just like it!"
Terry
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do they s till use the old track at Henry Ford museum ?
A little too late for the 494 Boss engine to have any impact in the Can-Am series.
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Just put my $20 million Daytona Coupe in the ditch....gonna need a wrecker to get this out of the mud!
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Certainly the Stock cars of the early days of NASCAR looked a heck of a lot more "stock" than the past decade of so. Real men, driving real cars, that came with the same engines and chassis`s as production cars. Can`t recall ever seeing a 2 door, V8 RWD Taurus at my local Ford dealers, or a pushrod, carbureted V8 RWD 4 door Toyota Camry on our lot the 23 years I worked at a Toyota dealership.
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And.......the days of seeing five lug nuts on the wheel are over, as of the 2022 season.
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Quote from: John Palmer on 2022-01-22 20:16
And.......the days of seeing five lug nuts on the wheel are over, as of the 2022 season.
Yup, becoming Formula One with a car body (sort of) wrapped around a common chassis with common engines with "nice" drivers........
Quote from: Ford Blue blood on 2022-01-23 09:02
Yup, becoming Formula One with a car body (sort of) wrapped around a common chassis with common engines with "nice" drivers........
Yeah, I have to wonder how many of the young ,modern pretty boy "nice guys" would have been able to handle those heavy NASCAR Stock Cars like David Pearson, Junior Johnston, Richard Petty, the Allisons and Cale Yarborough did in the 60s and early 70s.
Ain't that the truth; there is nothing "stock" about Stock Car Racing today, I can't tell a Ford, from a Chevy or a Toyota.
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Ken Miles in Shelby Cobra 427 leads AJ Foyt in Corvette Grand Sport
1964 Sebring
I agree with all the statements above. NASCAR was always my favorite sport and it started going to hell years ago :005: Just follow the money, all pro sports are now just high dollar carnival shows.
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That seems like such a bargain now, but thats considerably more than what my father paid for our brand new 2 storey house on a 1/2 acre lot back in 1963. Of course, if you werehave bought a new GT40, and stored it for 65 years, you could buy several new houses when you sold the car!
Funny thing is that $18,250.00 in January of 1965 equates to $163,081.00 in January of 2022
A recent toyoduh tv ad bragged about the camry stock car being so "advanced".
So they run a 351 Cleveland clone motor, a toploader clone trans and a 9" rear.
So much for jap engineering.
Ron.
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Quote from: SkylinerRon on 2022-01-31 15:17
A recent toyoduh tv ad bragged about the camry stock car being so "advanced".
So they run a 351 Cleveland clone motor, a toploader clone trans and a 9" rear.
So much for jap engineering.
Ron.
Not anymore, they have gone to trans axle :005: rack and pinion steering, they are all just the same kit cars now. My favorite sport has gone to hell for me..
Today's find.
Terry
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#2
These pictures remind me that growing up in the 1960's-1970's was a really cool time for us "car guys". Long live Total Performance.
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2022-02-27 19:40
Today's find.
Terry
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They DO make a special sound!
The options can really add up quickly, lucky he traded in the 55 Chevy.
you gotta be kidding , Jim......
F code, manual, OD in a 2dr Ht, what they mean by gold-white ? probably inca gold ( which is pale yellow) or was there a real metallic gold color for such a rare car or custom specs special order ?
anyways, that build sheet will cost me precious sleep hours....insane !
just re-read and somebody just wanted it ALL ..... :003:
very interesting is the chrome fender bezels and fin tips. I always thought that this was a later owner spec resto thing when seeing 57s with that. Never would have thought it was a factory option. crazy !
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2022-03-02 18:14
just re-read and somebody just wanted it ALL ..... :003:
very interesting is the chrome fender bezels and fin tips. I always thought that this was a later owner spec resto thing when seeing 57s with that. Never would have thought it was a factory option. crazy !
And chrome headlight rims?? I never knew that was a factory option. $67 a month!! thats outrageous :005:
A lot of those options were dealer addons.
Dealers added a lot of stuff back then because they couldn't stock enough cars to have all the right combos.
Back then there was 20-30 options for cars.
There was even a Factory in dash air conditioner kit, exactly the same as factory installation. It even had the molding for the door that said SelectAir.
I have a factory notebook with the installation instructions for all the add on parts and kits and it's 3/4" thick.
Ron.
Ron, i think you have the book I've been looking for for 40 years. I's a " Factory Accessory Book" I've only seen one other, and that was at Hershey in 1971. I just missed buying it and the new owner let me look thru it for a few minuets.
Quote from: Lou on 2022-03-04 15:30
Ron, i think you have the book I've been looking for for 40 years. I's a " Factory Accessory Book" I've only seen one other, and that was at Hershey in 1971. I just missed buying it and the new owner let me look thru it for a few minuets.
AHH! Makes me think of the old dealership days. Every spring we would have a bon fire out back fueled by last years factory books. Roasted a lot of hot dogs.
The book I have has a plain cover. It is mostly 11x17 foldouts. It is the only one i've ever seen in 40 years of Carlisle & Hershey as I will buy most any 57 book or manual for my collection. I just missed a 57 salesmans training kit with records and books by about 5 minutes so I feel your pain!
If you need a copy of any page let me know.
Ron.
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That is PRETTY COOL!
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interesting pic! One could only imagine why the only person in view is an unattended kid in diapers!
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Good to see you back Joe.
Thanks guys
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BEAUTY
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Joe, Thanks for your time in posting the photos. I always look and enjoy.
John
Joe, please forgive my ignorant question, but what are the aluminium cases on the lower rear of that GT 40 ( if it is a GT40, or is it an earlier designation model ) Is this a oil dry sump tank or what ?
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DJ, they were suitcase holders which were were required by the FIA rules; just like the bubble in the rear deck lid on the 289 FIA Cobra (see pic below) so a suitcase would fit in. Race cars at the 24hr Lemans were/are required to have provisions for luggage. Those were deemed big enough for a pair of suitcases, although their placement meant you probably didn't want to put anything in there that could melt?
"Jim Rose, long time chassis man at Holman & Moody, assisted in making other period mods, including the FIA-mandated aluminum suit case boxes to the left and right side of the exhaust headers..."
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Thx for explaining this incredible detail Joe....suitcases in a GT...what a crazy rule....but makes sense if you kind of think in the rule makers idea of those car being street legal.
Obviously we can easily jump right into the next detail, what about the fresh air scoops UNDER the front of the MkII pictured above. I am guessing fresh air feeds to the front disc brakes ?
DJ, I probably shouldn't have posted those two pics together as I do not believe that is a MKII.
As far as the scoops, I assume they were for the front brakes as there already is an air inlet for the "extractors" above them.
I am no expert but Ford made at least a dozen prototypes before they put the GT40 into production and then went on to produce the MKI, MKII, MKII, MKIV, MKV, the J-car as well as the X1 Roadster.
I can only assume the car above is probably one of the prototypes?
If you look at pictures of the old Gt40's, you'll notice several different styling designs including a "street version" that Ford had planned on, but never produced.
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...and the street version:
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As you can see, they had all undergone some major styling changes.
"Ford engineers collaborated with the engineer Eric Broadley, owner of the British racecar manufacturer Lola Cars, whose Lola Mk 6 showed great potential but required further development to fulfill its promise. Surrounded by front-engine competition, the mid-engine Mk 6 used a Ford V-8 engine. After making an agreement with Broadley to build the GT40, Ford produced five prototypes and then Broadley opted out of the contract, which led to the establishment of Ford Advanced Vehicles Ltd in England under the aegis of John Wyer, a former manager of the Aston Martin racing who went on to run many a Gulf Oil–sponsored team."
I believe this was the beginning of Kar-Kraft when Ford moved the program to the US?
I hope this helps....
The X-1 Can-Am Spider:
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The GT40 / GT111 prototype: at Le Mans in 1965 wearing number 15 and driven by Maurice Trintignant and Guy Ligier in the American white and blue livery
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Ford's X1 Roadster made its final competitive appearance during the lucrative end-of-season Bahamas Speed Week. It was entered for the Governor's Trophy on December 3rd which was a 25 lap race for sports, GT and touring cars. It appears to be modified once again...
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Subsequent History
From Nassau, the X1 Roadster was shipped to California where it was handed over to Shelby for assessment.
It was then sent to Kar Kraft in Dearborn and modified to trial a mixture of development parts including a two-speed automatic gearbox.
Once this work was complete, chassis 110 X was kitted out as a 1966-spec. Mk2 Roadster.
Newly configured, it went on to win the 1966 Sebring 12 Hours driven by Ken Miles and Lloyd Ruby.
Thank you for all the great pics and info, Joe !
Yes it appears that hardly two of them ever looked the same. Of course these were race type and track specific setups.
I just love the street version! The pic must have clearly been taken in Dearborn, as the GT is posing on the tell tale concrete turntable for design/press photos.
But it has the typical British cast/chromed license plate letters in the grill. Those letters were usually purchased separately and then bolted onto a (then) black (aluminium) plate. I just absolutely love how they used the
GT 40 PR lettering and having them float in the grill opening...that is pure Brit class with the American touch !
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2022-08-28 18:34...and the street version:
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As you can see, they had all undergone some major styling changes.
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Great pics again! I seem to remember that Ford did sell a few GT40s for the street...??? probably a remembering thing.
I think the GT-40 MK-IV is one of the most beautifully designed cars ever built. The shape still holds up today 55 years later.
All those old race pics are so cool. While in some pics the French Gendarmes are easily recognizable and those pics must be from Le Mans, this here is a very interesting pic as well.
Must be in Germany, as there is a 356 and a 914 in the background, both with Germany plates and the guy with the hat to the right corner of the pic is wearing a typical Southern German or rather Austrian traditional Loden suit. ( made from a special combed wool).
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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2022-08-30 00:01All those old race pics are so cool. While in some pics the French Gendarmes are easily recognizable and those pics must be from Le Mans, this here is a very interesting pic as well.
Must be in Germany, as there is a 356 and a 914 in the background, both with Germany plates and the guy with the hat to the right corner of the pic is wearing a typical Southern German or rather Austrian traditional Loden suit. ( made from a special combed wool).
Close....
Ford GT40 - debut race - Hill & McLaren - 1000 km Nurburgring 1964
Quote from: rmk57 on 2022-08-29 19:15I think the GT-40 MK-IV is one of the most beautifully designed cars ever built. The shape still holds up today 55 years later.
Agreed, timeless
Quote from: lalessi1 on 2022-08-29 10:22Great pics again! I seem to remember that Ford did sell a few GT40s for the street...??? probably a remembering thing.
Not sure how many actually were built, although some say the number may be as high as 31? I do know of at least one that went up for auction, chassis no. P/1057, that went up for sale last year in the UK by exotic car dealer Tom Hartley Jr. The MkI was originally sold to Noller Motors of Topeka, Kansas, for $8,750, today it's value is in the $4.000,000.00 range
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgYFTjOppzM
That was an AWESOME!!!! VIDEO....
Thanks,
You're very welcome.
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Interesting pic........looks like he's on a paved road, but no lane markings, and those that are there are squiggly.
Ford test track?
Not certain, but I think it may have been from Car & Driver
Got to sit in one of the factory LeMans cars at a Ford convention in 1970, it was way more fun than the new Pinto introduction going on.
Bonus pictures.
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57/8 Mercs are just totally cool ! 59/60 as well !
space age perfection !
remember the first US space flight program was titled
MERCURY for a reason :002: ! :unitedstates:
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2022-08-31 07:42(https://i.imgur.com/6P18D0Z.jpg)
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Is that an original TransAm car?
Yes, I believe it's a Bud Moore prepared Trans-Am Mustang for George Follmer
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2022-09-08 14:32Yes, I believe it's a Bud Moore prepared Trans-Am Mustang for George Follmer
Thank you. I use to watch them run at Riverside and I think the team car was driven by Parnelli Jones.
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Went to local car show on Saturday and spotted this. I almost bought this car 40+ years ago in North Vancouver and it ends up in a small town we moved to. Weird or what?
1969 Ranchero GT 428 SCJ, 4-speeed, 3.91 Trac-Lock. Indian Fire Red really looks nice on it to.
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:thumbsup: Nice, they are brining big money too.
I still want a '66 Fairlane!
The Legendary Norm Grabowski Kookie Kar
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That reminds me, i need to get some brylcreem :002:
A Ranchero full of brylcream?
T/F
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Interesting, a 1969 GT grill with 1968 seats. Kinda close to what I am doing in reverse. I have a 1969 I am working on with a 1968 GT grill. Neet car, I hope mine turns out that good.
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Ya don't need a Ranchero full, a little dab 'll do ya
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2022-09-14 08:44Ya don't need a Ranchero full, a little dab 'll do ya
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GT 40 MarkII
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"Durability testing was thorough in the usual Ford way. Ford dynamometer facilities are extensive and comprehensive, able to accurately duplicate any driving pattern through computer-programmed changes of speed, load, and throttle opening. After preliminary test runs by drivers in an elaborately instrumented car (measuring and recording on an oscillograph such things as engine speed, manifold vacuum, rear wheel speed, throttle plate angle and axle shaft torque) it was comparatively simple for Ford dynamometer people to reproduce the track conditions on an engine test stand. The dynamometer cycle allowed 6800 rpm in 1st and 2nd gears, 6250 in 3rd and top, and was run for 48 hours—as compared to the 6200 limit for drivers and about 38 hours normally put on a given engine (4-hour break-in, 4-hr vehicle sort-out, 6-hr practice, 24-hr race). Thus at race time durability wasn't a question mark in any sense.
Somewhat surprisingly, the carburetion settled upon was a single 4-barrel Holley unit, rated at 780 cu-ft/m in flow. This looks odd among the multiple Webers of competing cars, but apparently does the job well. E&F wanted vacuum-operated secondary throttles opening, but Ken Miles won out and got mechanical opening. This is accomplished by a cam-and-rod arrangement designed for equal opening, primary and secondary."
Thats interesting about the testing but I can't believe they used those restrictive 352/390 exhaust manifolds. Surely they didn't have that type in the car?
In the cars, they used "The Bundle of Snakes" headers:
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Around $10,000.00
Could have bought one off the executive lease return lot for about $3600 at the time. Of course I had a problem coming up with a dime for coffee back then!
'39 Ford Altered:
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Joe, I enjoy all of your pictures!
Thank you so much @BP57CUSTOM, it is very much appreciated!
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Sometimes I look at a pic, and who knows why, but sometimes a car will actually look happy, or tired, or convey some sort of weird emotional aspect. Probably the lighting or camera angle, whatever.
Gotta say though, that 57 just looks happy.
I agree
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Surfaroo...........something actually sold by Ford? I want one, lol. Perfect for road trips.
Looks like a mini version of a 70-71 Ranchero. Bummer, doesn't look like the roof comes off though.
From the web:
"Actually, the 1969 Ford XW SurfeRoo deserves more than the label of mere concept as it evolved beyond one-off show-model into a production vehicle - albeit with a manufacturing run of just three.
The extremely limited batch was created to tour motor shows but, unusually for such a promotional tool, they were later put up for sale in dealerships for what seems a very reasonable $3000 (about $35,000 in today's money). Can you imagine what Ford would ask these days for one of just three Australian-made show cars?
Also, unlike other rare and ageing cars, the whereabouts of all three are still known. If you were lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time, a budget nudging $100,000 might just snare you an example."
Quote from: rmk57 on 2022-09-23 09:29Looks like a mini version of a 70-71 Ranchero. Bummer, doesn't look like the roof comes off though.
My first thought, from the taillights, was a modified Pinto wagon.
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35-years ago I brought this 1951 F-1 home. Drove it for a few years then made a couple changes, 351-4V Windsor, C6, power steering and brakes, tubbed, new firewall, longer rear springs. Still love driving it.
Terry
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Very nice! :thumbsup:
so true ! I just love that pic, the Fairlane HT looks happy. its also a striking color combo. AND can anyone please appreciate this Lady, wintercoat on, hosing off and wiping clean her ( probably) new posession ?! That 57 looks brandnew. the chrome sparkles showroom style.
poor old '52 Ford, Flathead and all, is probably getting tossed soon... :005:
Quote from: Marc on 2022-09-22 07:13Sometimes I look at a pic, and who knows why, but sometimes a car will actually look happy, or tired, or convey some sort of weird emotional aspect. Probably the lighting or camera angle, whatever.
Gotta say though, that 57 just looks happy.
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G, if you're talking about the car behind the 57, it's a 54. From the outside, the 52-54 were the same body style the side chrome, grille, and taillights were all different.
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My bad, T. I was going from the grillebar and 53 didn't have driving lamps in the grill and somehow I assumed it must have been a 52. but 54 even fits the bill better. car was only 3 years old when this lady ordered her brandnew Fairlane... :002:
I guess she got fed up with the early one year only 239 Y block, when she wanted to replace the intake, cam and distributor with race type parts, and couldn't get them to fit the old mill....hahaha :003:
Quote from: terry_208 on 2022-09-26 21:57G, if you're talking about the car behind the 57, it's a 54. From the outside, the 52-54 were the same body style the side chrome, grille, and taillights were all different.
There is a remarkable detail on this Bermuda wgn. As some of you may remember I have a German Taunus wagon, and the design of the bumper horns is exactly the same. it's even more interesting when we face the fact, that The Falcon and Comet compact projects were started in the US along with the Taunus P3 in Germany Cologne Ford motorworks in 1958. All of them had many 'oval shaped' design details in common, and most of all the Comet started out as an EDSEL compact, so much that many of the first generation Comet Compact have Edsel part numbers on them, including the original fullsize Edsel taillight lenses, and all of that got obsolete when Edsel faded away in 1960 and the Comet came to life for the Mercury division. COMET even has 5 letters like EDSEL, so the appearance of the prototype scrpits looks the same on Comets, even thought earlier says EDSEL. That is a very long story, please bear with me, but look at the Taunus bumper horns and then go back to the 58 Edsel Bermuda above. That certainly is Corporate design from the same studios.
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Here's the EDSEL badged compact ( later Comet) wagon and the use of '60 Edsel taillight lenses on the sedans.
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Joe pm sent
Rich, I have no message from you in my inbox.
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Are you looking ABOVE the forum's logo? Call me . I may or may not be in cell phone coverage for a few hours.
Yes sir....
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The Comet lens look longer than the 60 Edsel lens.
Ron, I can't prove for sure that they are exactly the same size on the fullsize Edsel, but the Comet lenses definitely have Edsel part numbers and they have basically similar design!
Maybe the proportions in the Comet pictures are deceiving. remember the Comet is a Compact and anything off a fullsize car must look bigger on it.
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Quote1960 MERCURY TAIL LIGHT LENS PAIR ORIGINALS ERST 60B
DESCRIPTION:
THIS IS A HARD TO FIND TRUE ORIGINAL PAIR OF 1960 MERCURY COMET TAIL LIGHTS. THESE ARE MODEL SPECIFIC.
THE ARE EMBOSSED ERST 60B; SO USED ON CERTAIN MODELS, NOT ALL. ORIGINALLY INTENDED FOR THE 1960 EDSEL WHICH WAS SCRAPPED.
True, the proportions on the Fullsize Edsel lens looks diffeerent.
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The Comet lens have curved sides the Edsels are straight.
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Gorgeous car!!!
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1967 Fairlane that was owned originally by Bob Nottingham just sold for $400,000.00 Cdn dollars.
His son races a similar car and held the NHRA National record with it.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-ford-r-code-427-fairlane/
Father and son's Fairlanes.
Bob says 'Heres one of my 1966 427 Fairlane, taken in 1967 at the old Arlington track, was running in SS/C with one 4 barrel, 11.80's. Originally ran SS/B with dual 4's. But with the single could ET almost the same and the record was approx. 11.70's'
Beautiful R-Code! I especially like it in black. I can only afford an "H" Code, although I would love a "R" or "W" Code. :003:
I passed on a s-code 66 GT before I got my 57. Auto, Highland green, parchment interior, car was in Gresham, Oregon. I thought his asking price of $6000 was a little on The high side.
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Thanks CJ, I was just reading an article yesterday about the typed decal with the tach differences from actual RPM. It was mounted inside on the door jam where the driver could not see when the door was closed.
Terry
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Those old assembly line pics are the best.
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Found this in a 1951 Mechanix Illustrated.
How times have changed.
Terry
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This one might need a little TLC...
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:iamwithstupid: Shame bawl
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A 57 without rust around the headlights!
Ron.
For Steep Hills.
That must have been late 40's or early 50's.
I remember reading about this a while back, that was the beginning of Paxton Superchargers:
"Robert Paxton McCulloch was a skilled Stanford University engineering graduate who inherited a considerable sum of money from his multi-millionaire grandfather at an early age. This gave him the financial freedom to indulge in two of his passions, boat racing and engineering, which eventually led to him becoming a national champion in classes C and D of outboard hydroplanes in the1930's, and the also saw him set up a machine shop, where he and his helpers made engines for midget racers, and ended up building a twin motored, four wheel drive, midget that was so fast that it resulted in the ban of this type of midget from the tracks. Search for more speed resulted in him using his inheritance to set up the McCulloch Engineering Company in which he employed a team of engineers to develop engines and superchargers for aeronautical and automotive applications.
The first product of the McCulloch Engineering Company was a 2 stroke 60 cubic inch 90 HP racing engine developed by Robert P McCulloch, Gerald C Robechaud and Milton Hoeppner. Another product developed at McCulloch Engineering by Francis L. Colburn was a centrifugal supercharger for the flathead Ford V8. The flathead Ford V8 was an enormously popular powerplant at the time, and a low cost centrifugal supercharger developed for this engine had potential for high sales. The resultant supercharger was belt driven, was horizontally mounted between the standard intake manifold and carburetor, and may well have been one of the first aftermarket blower systems produced "[/i]
90 HP 60 Cubic Inch Engine
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90 HP 60 Cubic Inch Engine
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"McCulloch Engineering Company was based in Milwaukee, Wisconsin and the flathead supercharger unit was manufactured and sold between 1937 and 1940, and was significantly different to the later McCulloch blow through centrifugal superchargers in that it was an inline unit, which compressed and mixed the fuel/air charge. It consisted of an impellor, which turned at six times the engine speed in the impellor housing, and was driven by a set of worm gears mounted on the drive shaft and rotor shaft. The worm gears were driven by a triple pulley mounted an input drive shaft driven from the crankshaft pulley using several belts and were initially lubricated using engine oil under pressure from the engines oil system. By revolving at high speed the impellor caused the fuel/air mixture to build up pressure, up to a maximum of four pounds, within the impellor housing as a result of centrifugal force, and the pressurized mixture was discharged into the inlet manifold. There appears to have been two versions, one without a water jacket, and the other with a water jacket around the impellor housing which was used to warm the air/fuel mixture and was purported to aid low speed performance. A special three/four belt crank pulley was furnished for the Ford crankshaft, two new water pumps with three belt pulleys, as well as a set of matched V belts, a belt idler pulley and a special air cleaner which was required due to the reduced clearance added by the supercharger. The initial units, manufactured in 1937 and retailing for around $85, were designed to bolt onto the existing Ford and Mercury V8's which had the water pumps attached to the cylinder heads. Continuous improvement by the McCulloch engineers resulted in a modified version being introduced in 1938, retailing for $125, and which was also engine oil lubricated via a supplied intake manifold, which contained all the necessary link ups required for the engine oil lubrication. These also appear to have been offered with in water jacketed and non water jacketed versions. In 1939/40 thermostatic control of the exhaust gas through the impellor housing was introduced, in order to promote a rapid warm up of the fuel/air charge output from the blower. These flathead superchargers were designated with a model number that correlated the year of manufacture against the intended application vehicle (M for Mercury and F for Ford). Hence 38F refers to a 1938 model intended for a Ford."
Really interesting article, where did you find it?
Ron.
What plates on the Country Squire Gunther?
Terry
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Quote from: SkylinerRon on 2022-10-15 20:26Really interesting article, where did you find it?
Ron.
I watched something about him on TV and then I Googled him and did some digging.
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The King, leaving the building.
T
Beauty
Terry
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That's gorgeous! We see alot of the GM stuff, but hardly ever these Fords. Great stuff.
Sponsered by Grey Poupon.
Terry
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Thanks for all the pic's Joe! The 39-40 Fords are some of the best looking cars ever. I couldn't ever chop that beautiful top.
Ron.
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2022-10-23 18:20Sponsered by Grey Poupon.
Terry
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I'm sorry, I think I would have take a by pass to avoid racing that hideous thing.
Thanks Ron, I love my '39!
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Joe,
My 1st car was almost a 40 tudor. We couldn't get it to move off the spot it was parked on. Being 16 and dumb with no tools I didn't realize the drums were probably rusted to the shoes. It had been parked for years in front of this elderly couples home. Even in the early 60's there were very few pre war cars in the DC area. I ended up with a 51 Victoria which I had for 15 years.
Ron.
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The bumper sticker put a smile on my face.......I'm guessing "something Caverns in NC". I miss those big stickers as well as the water-slide decals for the windows. Joe, Jay, and John...you probably remember "Clarks Trading Post" or the Flume, Mohawk Trail, or........
Nice car, btw, maybe on it's maiden weekend trip.
Out west it was the Sea Lion Caves in Florence, Oregon. it seemed every second car had that bumper sticker plastered on it.
If you need one, I have an extra.
Terry
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I remember when I was a kid we would drive down 101 along the Oregon coast in our 57 custom 300 4dr and visit the Sea Lion Caves while you were there they would have guys in the parking lot that would wire on those big cardboard signs on your bumper, and from there we would visit the Trees Of Mystery on the Redwood Hwy at the Oregon California border, and the same thing, there would be a big Trees of Mystery card board sign wired to the bumper. Wish I had some of those today.
I was just thinking you couldn't do that to today's cars with no bumpers.
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55 park lights are round, 56 light were flat.
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Beautiful car....soooo elegant, even with the flashy red!
Thanks again for all the postings you do for us Joe......much appreciated.
My Pleasure Rich!
'56 was such a good year for Lincoln, and for Continental. They both knocked it out of the park that year at least as far as styling is concerned.
Agreed, although I think the 1956 Continental Mark II was the prettier of the two:
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What he said!
IT also has a 55 grill with round park Lites.
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Hey, at least it's in a Ford...
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#6047 looks like a Studabaker rear clip on a Mustang.
Quote from: SkylinerRon on 2022-11-22 10:09#6047 looks like a Studabaker rear clip on a Mustang.
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It looks great !!!
that was a time when the shape of the MUSTANG wasn't carved in stone yet. It could have as well looked like that a year later.
Love the Ford Custom Caravan cars, especially the Fastback Falcon that was redesigned by Dean Jeffries.
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that frontend treatment is wild and with the British quad headlights looks more like '68 than '64.
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Unlike the Pegasus, to me, this one flows together really nice.
I went to high school with a girl that had beautiful eyes, a great nose, and mouth, etc.. All of the "components" individually were perfect....but together, the girl was not pretty at all. The Pegasus reminds me of her.
hahaha Rich.... :003:
don't say that out loud in todays society, or you will be canceled !
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First pic maybe at a Howard Johnson's? Second pic could be anywhere, third I'm guessing San Franciso, aside from the landscape, that Dodge/Desoto/Plymouth? has the classic black and yellow Cal plates.
Morning DJ!!
Hey Rich !
I don't know anything further about those pics, just collected from the internet. Love finding random 57s in those 'everyday 1950/60s' pics.
Certainly could be SF. I am always wondering how those cars kept their fluids parked on those steep inclined streets. We all know how transmissions and engines of the day weren't so well sealed. Probably most still had vented fuel tank caps and packed seals (like our Y blocks).
My guess would be that the third picture might be San Francisco also
The big guy tuning up before the big ride.
Merry Christmas to the entire Board and it's members.
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Jeff
Santas roadster already has an engine. Is he planning on putting that 8BA in his sleigh and putting Rudolph and the other raindeer out to pasture?
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone on our site. Jay Arrow
I'll wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year now as getting ready to head north to WI to visit family.
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas to everyone! I also want say thanks for all the advice, assistance and information provided on the site.
Jeff
Santas roadster already has an engine. Is he planning on putting that 8BA in his sleigh and putting Rudolph and the other raindeer out to pasture?
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone on our site. Jay Arrow
Merry Christmas from Texas as well. For you guys driving somewhere, have a safe trip.
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Bonus pic....
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I could see myself in that car!! Lovin' the back end on the previous pic.
Don't we all! :003:
That '56....perfect color. Way back when, I bought my wife a '63 Galaxie convertible with the same turquoise combo. 390 auto. Man I wish I had that car now. That was in Mass., we sold it when we moved to Socal.
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Early Tom McEwen in the SOHC Brand special.
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Pics I save or have saved....
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Great pics Jeff. Love that B&W '57.
Great pics! Thanks for posting them!
Great group of pics, Jeff. THanks for sharing. My favorite .......... that black one.
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Interesting... this 57 was the one that ate my Brain..... First saw it in the late 80's(the pic) and it was a 428 SCJ with a 4 speed stick.The engine was built by Legend Barry Poole.
Apparently.... the car went South.. but sold in Auction for only 8k..... or so the stories are told.
8k today wouldn't even get you close on a 428 SCJ.
Barry Poole.
https://cdrhf.com/Inductees/barrie-poole/
There you have it Jeff. Your pics must be fake. All the bada** black shiner cars, that obviously are driven by outlaws are all parked nicely in order, just that square guy in his grocery getter white Custom sitting parked next to the no parking sign ??? Oh C'mon, who want's to believe that....
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Hahahahahaha.oboy. you certainly like to stir the pot G..... Duck n cover..I think Jake is coming!
hahahah
Always been a big fan of the "El Cheapo" base models and dog dish hub caps, glad I am not the only one that digs the Plain Jane" style.
I just noticed where the white one was photographed.....Jay's? And I know the B&W photo is/was Donny's..does he still have it?
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2023-02-21 17:22I just noticed where the white one was photographed.....Jay's? And I know the B&W photo is/was Donny's..does he still have it?
Yes Rich,... that's Jays Car.... and the B/W Shot is Hotrod Donnies old 57..... No... Donnie sold the car to a Gentleman that attended our show.... the workmanship on that car is outstanding.Mr. Alan Breezie(sp?) now owns it but I heard his health was very bad.
Not sure where Hotrod Donnie is now. he moved to the Maritimes and have never heard from him.
He is a great guy.
Since I am up early and have 9 minutes and 43 sec. to burn.I will post some more FORD pics.
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Jeff, Great Collection of Pics! My absolute favorite is the all Black Custom with the OOO-OOO License Plates.
Quote from: 59meteor on 2023-02-21 16:06Always been a big fan of the "El Cheapo" base models and dog dish hub caps, glad I am not the only one that digs the Plain Jane" style.
ME TOO! The comments I get on my car are split between "I love the dog dish hubcaps" and "your car needs rims"! I probably have more money in the wheels, tires, and hub caps than a set of a of custom wheels.
Glad to see this thread active in my absence :003: .
Quote from: suede57ford on 2023-02-22 07:54Jeff, Great Collection of Pics! My absolute favorite is the all Black Custom with the OOO-OOO License Plates.
Pat..... that is Gary's car. he is on this board....FORD A HOLIC...(I believe)
Its a true Bus. sedan with the tray.. 427 and C-6..... its an ex military car.. and he is selling....
The car is....FLAWLESS.
I will now slink away into the depths of work
have a great day all
Jeff
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2023-02-22 08:01Glad to see this thread active in my absence :003: .
You have been missed, Joe.
Thanks again Jeff
Oh man, Jeff!!!
Jack Carrols Deuce gets me , again and again. It is hands down my alltime favorite 32 5w !
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2023-02-22 04:21Since I am up early and have 9 minutes and 43 sec. to burn.
I will post some more FORD pics.
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The music is a little 'loud' for me, but else just a quintessential 1950s hotrod !
Only Deuce contender coming close to that imho is Fred Steele's roadster. those two cars come immediately to my mind, thinking about 32s.
As a matter of fact, our friend Jay knew Fred in person !
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this old survivor still wears its original paint and even pinstriping from the 50s. I has been unaltered since. I believe it' still the same engine, upholstery,and cloth top.
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Interesting, the black and silver 57 has all the Meteor trim, and the show card says it`s a Meteor, but it seems odd that they would have left off the Meteor grill, which is the most distinctive item on a Meteor. Unless it was actually going to be a drag car, and the Meteor grill was considered "too heavy".
Here are a few more.
Here are a few from a small CT show I used to enjoy going to:
Can never get enough assembly line pics
NOS Ford / Holman Moody SOHC fresh off the pallet sold for $140,000.00 a few days back.
I thought $30,000.00 was a lot when I was looking for one.
Terry
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Came across this while researching bias ply tires.
Easy to work on, but there's gonna be some gravel in your face!
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Cool. That shows the mufflers behind the tires. My og were under the front floor boards. It also shows the body mounts on the frame and the fuel lines running along the driver's side of the frame.
I believe those are just resonators behind the rear wheels. The mufflers are likely not visible under the seat.
Augie & Ray's is still a popular drive-in restaurant in East Hartford CT.
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Quote from: Marc on 2023-03-08 11:35I believe those are just resonators behind the rear wheels. The mufflers are likely not visible under the seat.
I remember in the old days when 57 Fords first came out that they had those resonators behind the rear wheels.and the mufflers were under the seat areas. I also remember when the resonators rotted out,lots of guys replaced them with just a piece of straight pipe and it worked out just fine.
I'm not really sure what the purpose of the resonators was. Better sound?
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2023-02-22 16:56Here are a few more.
That photo showing the light colored 55 Ford 4 door ,during the body drop, is interesting. Appears the hole in the firewall for the steering column looks considerably smaller than on a 57-59, so snaking the steering column and shaft thru that hole, while dropping the body onto the frame, seems tp be a lot like threading a needle.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2023-03-09 16:03I'm not really sure what the purpose of the resonators was. Better sound?
Not sure Rich. I think they're just supposed to make the sound a little smoother. Had them on my car years ago and the exhaust sounded ok, but I didn't miss them at all when I removed them.
I have not given them much thought over the years, but now that they have been mentioned, does anyone have any idea why the resinators were on the 57 Fords inthe first place?
One thing that I know for sure is that I'm not going to put them on my 57.
Jay
Supposedly, the resonators would change the engine sound, while the mufflers would reduce the exhaust volume. When combined, the resonator works with the muffler to create a more pleasant sound that isn't too loud or unpleasant.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2023-03-12 09:27Supposedly, the resonators would change the engine sound, while the mufflers would reduce the exhaust volume. When combined, the resonator works with the muffler to create a more pleasant sound that isn't too loud or unpleasant.
Thank you Joe.
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Wow ! That's a Lot of Fo Mo Co cui power for a 40 ! :002: Loving the sun tach sender unit and chromed brake booster assembly !
Details like that really make an old hot rod and are rarely seen today.
8x Holleys, oh what a nightmare.... loving the HD fuel rail. probably need most of the fuel to make up for the leaking 94s.... :003:
Crazy ain't it? Looks like an old 368? Lincoln Y Block maybe?
Not sure that's a '39 Deluxe with '40 headlights or a '40 Standard though.
yes was thinking it was a mixnmatch between 39/40. all combinations are possible here.
Have you already retrieved your 39 from winter hibernation? It is such a beauty and the story about the glass car that turned out to be all oem steel still makes me chuckle.
Yeah, it's definitely not a '39 standard and definitely not a '40 deluxe; really hard to tell without seeing the grill center.
Funny you should ask, I started both of them up yesterday and let them run for a while. I must say, having radiant heat keeps them in great shape, no more condensation, mold or mildew.
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Found these in my Parnelli Jones search.
Terry
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Wheelies? Wow! Surprised the heck out of me.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2023-03-26 15:33yes was thinking it was a mixnmatch between 39/40. all combinations are possible here.
Have you already retrieved your 39 from winter hibernation? It is such a beauty and the story about the glass car that turned out to be all oem steel still makes me chuckle.
And Günter I am Joe's witness that it really and truly is not tupperware. IT IS AND HONEST AND TRULY ALL STEEL CAR!
I even got to drive it. Jay
Did anyone notice that that 39ish coupe has a plexiglass hood.
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Famous Quincy's Automotive parking lot. They sponsered lots of early race cars, Craig Breedlove, Summers Bros. etc. Wonder what the Custom 300 was getting?
Terry
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Good see you Tom. My jaw hits the floor every time I see that rod.
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2023-05-24 05:24Good see you Tom. My jaw hits the floor every time I see that rod.
Every time you see it? I think the only other pix I posted of it here were way back in 2012 & since I was using Photobucket then but quit them later those pix are gone.
Original'31 body with a '32 frame & grille shell/grille,'63 406, three 2 intake, 4 speed a 9" rear & a dropped oval tube '37 front axle. You hardly ever see one of those axles that have been dropped.
It's no show car just a great classic style street rod. No billet stuff, original steel & home built goodies all the way. It's been off the road for a long time & I need to remedy that. Want to change those wheels to something that look like torque Thrusts too.
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Absolutely beautiful!
I'm not sure why, but not something I wouldn't expect to see in Alaska.
Quote from: Tom S on 2023-05-27 11:03Every time you see it? I think the only other pix I posted of it here were way back in 2012 & since I was using Photobucket then but quit them later those pix are gone.
Thats probably when I saw it and I remember how it left me really being impressed :001: .
1968 Mercury Cougar Fastback
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"What's the deal with this one-of-none Cougar fastback? Well, it's not a concept car or a prototype that didn't make it into production. It's an enthusiast's idea of turning a rusty classic into a unique rig bound to turn heads.
A full-blown custom project completed at a professional shop, the fastback was put together by marrying the front section of a 1968 Cougar to the rear of a 1967/1968 Mustang. It's obviously more complex than that, but the rear fenders, the trunk lid, and the roof are clearly sourced from the Cougar's Ford-badged sibling.
The owner also points out that the roof was lowered from the original height, but it's not exactly a chopped top, so it works nicely with the sloping rear end. The Cougar rides on a set of vintage-looking 17-inch wheels (larger than the 1960s Cougar/Mustang standard), while the pearl blue paint is reportedly based on a Cougar factory color. It's similar to the Diamond Blue hue Mercury offered in 1968. "
Now that's a "better idea"! The 17"s look perfect for it.
Nicely done.
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A couple hood pins in front instead of a bungee to hold the hood down would be the way to go.
The 64 is my favourite year of the 60's full size Fords.
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I want to hear this one.
Terry
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X 2!
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Ford's La Boca Assembly Plant. Buenos Aires. Argentina
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Soybean Processing Plant, Ford Rouge Plant, Dearborn, Michigan, 1940
Starting in 1931, Henry Ford invested much money and research into soybeans. Ford viewed the crop as a bridge between agriculture and industry, and he used soybean oil and soybean-based plastics in Ford Motor Company vehicles. At the Rouge's processing building, soybeans were crushed and mixed with hexane -- a chemical that extracted the soybean oil.
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1925 Ford Airport blimp mooring mast and airplane
Ford Airport (Dearborn, Michigan)
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1929 Ford Airport, Dearborn
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1945 Ford Airport, Dearborn
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1940 Ford Rouge Glass Plant
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1969 Ford Rouge Manufacturing Complex slabbing mill
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Thanks again for all the pics, Joe. Any idea what a "slabbing mill" is?
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2023-07-16 15:13Thanks again for all the pics, Joe. Any idea what a "slabbing mill" is?
The machinery for hot working of an ingot to a flat rectangular shape. A slab is typically 6 inches thick, 51 inches wide, and about 200 inches long. They can roll out to .050 thick
1985 Ford Rouge Complex aerial
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1935 Ford Rouge Blast Furnace and Power House stacks
1947 Ford Rouge Manufacturing Complex Power House
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Incredible pics, Joe, thx for posting ! Stunning !!!
I always thought of car manufacturers in terms of assembly plants. I didn't realize they got bigtime into stuff like steel processing plants, their own power plants, etc. I wonder if GM and Chrysler did also. Sure must have made for an ugly skyline in those cities.......I guess that's why you only saw the pretty (and clean)assembly plants.
Two sides to the coin; Ford had plants for making charcoal as well as farms for employees to grow food.
"In pursuit of self-sufficient automobile manufacture, Henry Ford and Ford Motor Company purchased over 313,000 acres of timberland for logging in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. A massive sawmill complex and powerful hydroelectric plant were constructed at Iron Mountain. Here, sawmill workers produced huge quantities of lumber for wooden automobile framework, floorboards, and wheels."
Ford Motor Company Iron Mountain Plant Sawmill and Power House, circa 1920
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Henry Ford's Views on Farming
ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED | JULY 17, 1926
"We cultivate several thousand acres at Dearborn; we also have a dairy herd of around three thousand cows; and near our coal mines in Kentucky, on mountain soil that was not supposed to be good for much of anything, we are growing garden vegetables and fruit. Most of my own life has been spent on a farm. We are in touch with farming nearly everywhere through the sales of automobiles and tractors. And so we are not without knowledge of farm needs and wants.
This phrase "Garden for Security" was the guiding philosophy of the Ford Motor Company Garden Educational Service. Established in late 1943, the program provided help to the thousands of Americans doing their part in the "food battle" during World War II.
While Willow Run was producing almost a plane an hour in 1944, the Ford Educational Garden Service was boosting Victory Gardens all over the country, helping civilians produce 40 percent of the vegetables grown that year in the United States.
The efforts of the Ford Educational Garden Service ensured that civilians would have access to produce healthier, more productive gardens. Current gardeners, as well as thousands who had never had a garden before, had access to a service that would be able to make their food source more secure. The Educational Garden Service gave tips on what to grow, what insects to look out for and how to control them, as well as tips for canning your crops. As a 1944 Service pamphlet stated, "Can all you can, store all you can. In this, in addition to a summer's supply of vegetables, lies security." These gardens were opportunity for both supplying nutrition and boosting morale during the hardships of war."
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1958 Ford Rouge Complex conveyor
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1961 Employees on assembly line at Ford La Boca Plant
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Joe,
I don't know how in the world you come up with these historical Ford pics and information, but I absolutely love them. Keep them coming.
Dave
Thanks Dave
1965 Ford Mustang at World Headquarters in Dearborn, Michigan
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Joe Those are some good pictures. Thank you Jay
I did not make it to the Friday night (7/21/23) cruise again because the weather liars kept saying all day that we would have rain.
This makes about 8 Fridays in a row this summer.
Henry Ford was quite a visionary, he was making Ford Motor Company a self supplying empire, with it`s own power plants, casting, forging, stamping, woodworking, glass, etc divisions, FoMoCo was able to do pretty much everything in house, and not being held up by delivery issues from outside suppliers. And they were able to produce many more vehicles back in those years, despite all the "modern technological advancements" of current production. Kinda sad now, to see the manufacturers being hamstrung by problems with outside suppliers, from all over the world, and government restrictions and hurdles.
When the Fords married into the Firestone family, the Feds stepped in.
1957 Exterior view of Power House at Dagenham Plant, England
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Firestone...........great company 'til the Japanese management screwed it up. I had the infamous Mountaineer tires on my '97 (?)Mercury Mountaineer when that whole fiasco started. Mine were made in a different factory than the one with the major issues, but after Ford canceling their 100+ year contract with Firestone, Ford replaced all 4 of my worn-out tires at their expense. I'll never have Firestone tires on my cars again, but I've wondered if Ford would have done what they did trying to force Firestone into replacing all Mountaineer tires if they knew it would backfire at their expense. Either way, Ford cowboyed-up.
For those not familiar with Rich's story....
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"The story begins back in 1906, six years after Harvey Firestone founded his eponymous Firestone Tire and Rubber company. Firestone was personal friends with Henry Ford, who chose to outfit Firestone tires to his new Model T. Having supplied the rubber for the most influential car of all time, the Firestone Tire and Rubber Company would form a seemingly indelible partnership with the Ford Motor Company.
Then, in 1990, the two allies unwittingly set the stage for what was to become the most controversial recall of the early 21st century. That year, Ford began producing its now-legendary Explorer for the first time. Once again, Ford used tyres made by Firestone, who had recently been acquired by the Japanese tire manufacturer Bridgestone.
Ultimately, the Explorer's versatility, four-wheel drive practicality and iconic styling made it an all-star in the fledgling SUV market. Not only was the Explorer a favorite among suburban families, it was popular among off-road enthusiasts who wanted a toy that could also serve as a cushy daily driver. Despite being in production for nearly 30 years, the Explorer is still one of Ford's strongest sellers in the North American market. However, the first versions of the Explorer were tainted by a series of engineering and corporate failures that forever damaged the reputations of both Ford and Firestone.
In order to understand the early Explorer's bad reputation, it helps to understand its handling characteristics. Having driven an older Explorer, I feel confident that a drunken giraffe could handle a set of corners more confidently. It's heavy, has a high center of gravity, and awfully sloppy steering. As far as early SUVs were concerned, this was par for the course. However, the Explorer featured a twin I-beam front suspension that was supposed to offer better stability than the live axle setup that was offered in the Jeep Cherokee. This early form of independent front suspension gave the Explorer a smoother ride, but the extra comfort came with some drawbacks. Any vertical movement of the suspension (e.g. going over a bump) would upset the wheel's camber angle to some extent, resulting in reduced high-speed stability and increased rollover danger. This phenomenon was similar to what was infamously experienced by the first-generation Chevrolet Corvair.
This deficiency in the Explorer's front-end stability contributed, in part, to rollovers in preproduction testing. Engineers recommended that the design of front suspension be modified. Instead, Ford decided to correct the instability in the same way that Chevrolet fixed the Corvair's handling issues: by running the Explorer with a lower front tire pressure than usual. This jury-rig solution seemed to work, and the Explorer's front-end stability was sufficiently improved. It did, however, come with a price: the lower pressure would reduce the durability and lifespan of the tire.
Initially, engineers at Ford and Firestone believed that they had solved the Explorer's stability problems. In 2000, Firestone made a slight modification to the design of their tyres. They added a nylon cap to the tyre's belted radial to give extra strength to the tread. At first, it looked like a routine design upgrade. What the public did not know, however, was that both Ford and Firestone were under pressure from investigations by the National Highway Transportation Safety Association (NHTSA) and U.S. Congress.
Between 1990 and 2000, the NHTSA received a large number of complaints regarding tire failures on Ford Explorers equipped with Firestone ATX, ATX II, and Wilderness AT model tires. Ford did their own investigation into the matter, and confirmed that the Firestones were suffering from alarmingly high failure rates. Despite this knowledge, a special committee formed by the U.S. Senate found evidence that Ford and Firestone did not inform the NHTSA of the problem. It was estimated that, as a result of the problems with Firestone tires, over 200 people died in accidents brought on by tread separation.
For Ford and Firestone, the consequences were staggering. Widespread recalls were issued, and both companies were inundated with lawsuits. Although tread separations had occurred on Explorers fitted with tyres made by other manufacturers, the damage to Firestone's reputation was so severe that they were forced to shut down their Decatur, Illinois production facility in 2001. For the 2002 redesign of the Explorer, Ford outfitted the Explorer with a much-improved four-wheel independent suspension. That move may have been too little, too late for Ford. Their reputation was damaged as they were accused of knowingly selling an unsafe vehicle, much like they did with the infamous Pinto 20 years earlier.
The damage done to the relationship between Ford and Firestone was even more profound. After 95 years of supplying Ford with tyres, the Firestone Tire and Rubber Company ended their partnership with Ford Motor Company, citing a lack of trust in the company. It was a dramatic ending to an alliance that began from a personal friendship between two of America's most prominent automotive pioneers."
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Interesting read with lots of details I had never heard, like Firestone "ending the relationship"......thought it was the other way around. Also, the name of the tire.......I was 98% sure it matched the name of my SUV.....Mountaineer.
Thanks for the info, Joe. Great stuff as always.
My pleasure bud :occasion14:
How about camping with Henry Ford, Thomas Edison, Harvey Firestone and President Harding shows up...lol
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"Henry Ford, Thomas Edison, President Warren G. Harding, and Harvey Firestone at a campsite in Maryland in June 1921.
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"During the week of July 21-27, 1921, Thomas Edison, Henry Ford and Harvey Firestone camped at a site about six miles east of Hancock in Washington County. During the weekend, President Warren G. Harding joined the "vagabonds" — the name the wealthy industrialists gave themselves when they camped together. The 200-acre farm where they made camp was located about one mile north of the National Turnpike along Licking Creek. Today, the campsite lies inside Camp Harding County Park. A plaque memorializes the gathering of these famous campers.
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This was not the first time the vagabonds had been in the Old Line State. In 1918, while traveling from their camp site near Greensburg, Pa., to Leadmine, W.Va., the group passed through Garrett County. They stopped to eat lunch at Swallow Falls and purchased supplies in Oakland.
It wasn't until the 1921 trip, however, that the vagabonds actually camped in Western Maryland. There were several other firsts that distinguished the 1921 outing from other trips the vagabonds had taken since they began camping together in 1915. It was the first time their wives joined them; it was the first time the president of the United States camped with them; and it was the first time their friend, famed naturalist John Burroughs, was not with them. He had passed away earlier that year.
About mid-morning on July 23, 1921, Ford, Edison and Firestone left their campsite at Licking Creek and drove west on U.S. Route 40 to Funkstown to meet Harding, who had left the White House earlier that morning.
Large crowds gathered along the roadside in Hagerstown to watch the long caravan of vehicles rumble by as they headed back to the camp site.
Harding's group numbered more than 40 people and included, among others, Secret Service personnel and 10 white house photographers. The vagabond's entourage included family members, cooks, truck drivers and maintenance staff. Including the public hanging around to gawk at the famous, there were at times over 100 people crowding the camp site.
Harding and the vagabonds arrived back at Licking Creek at about 1 p.m. Newspaper reporters wrote that the president arrived just in time to help cook for the entire party. Reports say that Harding took off his coat, and with a "business-like grip" around an ax, cut enough firewood to cook food for the entire group.
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After lunch, Harding retired to his tent to take a nap. A photographer also captured a shot of Edison napping on the ground under an elm tree.
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While the president and the inventor grabbed 40 winks, Ford and Firestone conducted a wood-chopping contest for the benefit of the press and onlookers. Despite the noise just outside his tent, Harding emerged rested and refreshed from his hour-long nap and immediately went to the wood pile to chop more firewood.
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Afterwards, the president and Firestone walked over to Licking Creek, where Harding reminisced about the swimming holes he enjoyed as a child.
Warren G. Harding, Harvey Firestone, Thomas Edison and Henry Ford horseback riding through Maryland during a camping trip in 1921.Firestone had shipped six horses from Ohio to the camp site, and Harding went riding twice during his stay. A reporter noted that it was "the first horseback work he (Harding) had done in many years."
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The adventures of the president and the vagabonds and their camping trip in Maryland captured public imagination across America. In the early 1900s, camping for fun in the outdoors was a relatively new concept. Some urban dwellers believed that the only people who camped in tents were either in the Army or were suffering hard times.
Many Americans worked a six-day week, laboring 10 or more hours each day. There was little time for recreation. As more leisure time became available, people began touring in their new automobiles and searching for vagabond types of adventures. This created a demand for more public parks and forests, like Green Ridge State Forest, one of Maryland's public land crown jewels. "
1959 Ford World Headquarters Building lobby bronze sculptured world map
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1942 Ford Willow Run Bomber Plant B-24 bomber production
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^ German Ford Taunus ! :001:
All 3 Taunus 17m are local friends cars.
more of #3
That little Taunus is actually a pretty slick looking car. Is there much of an aftermarket for them for performance parts for that little 4-banger?
1915 Ford Highland Park Assembly Plant; crankshafts
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What a jungle. I was trying to find lighting, can't see any, but must be there somewhere.
Rich, it appears to be skylights in this 1922 pic...
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as well as this Part of the production line at Ford's Highland Park factory, Detroit, Michigan, USA, c1914.
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No Marc, unfortunately not. While the P2 series ( as pictured above ) was even sold in the US by Mercury dealers as an in-company compact car, it was of course dumped with the introduction of the 1960 Falcons and Comets. By then also the rather baroque design of the cars was already outdated somewhat. Even though I know 3 guys around town with such a 57-60 Taunus, they are really rare today, even in Germany. Parts are extremely hard to find for these model years!
Ford Cologne produced their own hi hp version of these cars which were then offered with an improved flow intake manifold and tuned up 1bbl carb or manual secondary 2bbl on later models , producing up to 75horses compared to the original 60 hp. While this may sound ridiculous to you, bear in mind, that other European cars of the time like Fiat or the Volkswagen beetle had only 25 or 30 hp ! So those little Fords were rather one of the faster cars around Continental Europe at the time.
I have one of the next model year series P3 Taunus wagons. as my daily driver. currently getting some restoration work done, but hoping to have it back on the road next year. It's the white one.
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Quote from: Marc on 2023-07-28 12:43That little Taunus is actually a pretty slick looking car. Is there much of an aftermarket for them for performance parts for that little 4-banger?
1923 Lincoln Assembly Plant Model L final assembly area
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Thanks for the info Guenther. That P3 looks to be quite a departure from the styling of the P2. Good luck with it!
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2023-07-29 17:48No Marc, unfortunately not. While the P2 series ( as pictured above ) was even sold in the US by Mercury dealers as an in-company compact car, it was of course dumped with the introduction of the 1960 Falcons and Comets. By then also the rather baroque design of the cars was already outdated somewhat. Even though I know 3 guys around town with such a 57-60 Taunus, they are really rare today, even in Germany. Parts are extremely hard to find for these model years!
Ford Cologne produced their own hi hp version of these cars which were then offered with an improved flow intake manifold and tuned up 1bbl carb or manual secondary 2bbl on later models , producing up to 75horses compared to the original 60 hp. While this may sound ridiculous to you, bear in mind, that other European cars of the time like Fiat or the Volkswagen beetle had only 25 or 30 hp ! So those little Fords were rather one of the faster cars around Continental Europe at the time.
I have one of the next model year series P3 Taunus wagons. as my daily driver. currently getting some restoration work done, but hoping to have it back on the road next year. It's the white one.
Those Taunuses are alot more American-ish than I had realized, and never knew they were marketed in the US for a time.. Great info Joe and Gunter.
Joe, those sales brochures are the best I've seen.
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imho, this is my alltime favorite 57 color combo ! Inca gold over mocha silver with the bright styletone gold anodized trim. it may be kitschy... but it looks the part and couldn't really get more mid century flavor than that.
Quote from: CobraJoe on 2023-07-30 06:21(https://i.imgur.com/GxuqsYb.png)
Rich, those German Fords had 'American' attributes on purpose. I think the styling or general concept was worked out in Dearborn and then sent over to be made ready for production. The CEO of Ford Cologne was an American guy, sent over from Dearborn. When the P3 series was introduced to the public, Henry Ford II was present and had the German chancelor Konrad Adenauer invited. The story goes, that 'somehow' it happened so that the official Mercedes Republic limousine had a problem that day and Adenauer was picked up by Henry in 3 brandnew Ford Taunus P3.... :003:
Also the brochures had real American feeling, even though most of the cars were sold in domestic (German that is) market. I have a brochure of the successor model P3 and on the German brochure, even with the European market only new Taunus, there is clearly an American Highway, along with a 1961-ish Ford Galaxie and a brandnew Boeing 707 Jetliner in the picture....that was part of the lifestyle back then even over here.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2023-07-30 08:17Those Taunuses are alot more American-ish than I had realized, and never knew they were marketed in the US for a time.. Great info Joe and Gunter.
Joe, those sales brochures are the best I've seen.
1906 Ford Piquette Avenue Assembly Plant; Ford Model N assembly room
(Complete with light bulbs Rich!) :003:
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1918 Lincoln Assembly Plant view from Livernois and Warren Avenues
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1962 Ford Fairlane 500
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That's a beautiful Fairlane
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1966 Ford F-100 farm and ranch special
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Nice truck but not a 66. 67-72 had the turn signals below the lights, 65-66 and they were above the lights.
Always enjoy all the pictures you post.
I agree Jim, but a1966 according to Ford???
Taken directly from Ford Dearborn website:
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They list this one as a
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1966 Ford F-100 contractors special
Yet they list this as a 1966 Ford F-100
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So, I wonder if there was some overlap in the model years???
I think someone who inputted it in the computer was confused :003: Even the one they say is a 66 is a 65 LOL
This is what happens when you let millennials be in charge of photo archives.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2023-08-03 20:14This is what happens when you let millennials be in charge of photo archives.
I agree 100%.
Let's try this route...
1956 ford trucks neg 06700 173
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Looks like 56 to me :002:
picture is a '66 note the twin i beam emblems!!
Never seen this one before.
Terry
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Terry, that photo has been circulated around the interweb for several years now, most people claim that it's fake and is just photoshopped. Some claim it's 727 cu. in.
Not sure if that's true or not, but every time I have searched for it, there is no info. :dontknow:
Quote from: 58villager on 2023-08-04 10:18picture is a '66 note the twin i beam emblems!!
65 was the first year of twin I beam :001: .
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If you have some time to kill this video by Ed Pink about SOHC 427 engines is great. The guy is still so sharp at 92 :001:
https://youtu.be/ZKOYRWHDChQ
Very cool Jim, I hope you don't mind, but I borrowed the video. :002:
I watched that a while back.... GREAT!!!!
It's bogus. Here's the original pic:
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2023-08-05 09:48If you have some time to kill this video by Ed Pink about SOHC 427 engines is great. The guy is still so sharp at 92 :001:
https://youtu.be/ZKOYRWHDChQ
Ed Pink was featured in a TV show called 'Hot Rod History Lessons' that I saw a few days ago. It was on Mav TV. Looks like that 'Hot Rod History Lessons' show was aired here on Wednesdays. The few shows I've seen were quite interesting.
Had a chance to buy one of those SOCH 427s many decades ago & blew it. The guy said it had Ed Pink's name etched all over it. I can't imagine how an engine like that ever ended up in Alaska. I think it would have bolted right in my Roadster in place of it's 1963 406 too. Snooze, ya lose. :(
I too, had a chance to buy one 25 years ago from a local Pro Stock guy in Brockton. Went there, it was all torn down with a freshly bored block, he wanted $10K for it. I had the money in my pocket and ending up backing out because he couldn't find the timing chain cover.
He called me a few days later saying he had it and I said i would think about it; sadly, I never went back. bawl
The short version...got one.
Quote from: gasman826 on 2023-08-06 12:39The short version...got one.
bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl
1949 Ford Custom coupe neg 86070-144
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What a beautiful, beautiful car and pretty plane! This photo is so crisp and neat....WOW !
Talking about rare brochures, some of you may like my latest purchase...I cannot stress enough how rare of a find this is....even featuring Mercury and Lincoln.... very happy to add this to my collection. Even more so since I bought a 1949 Merc with Austrian title, just yesterday....(pretty solid, but huge project) :002:
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1969 Ford Rouge Manufacturing Complex ore bins aerial view neg CN5791-082
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Quote from: gasman826 on 2023-08-06 12:39The short version...got one.
How awesome, My old eyes can't see the intake, Webers, FI ????
DJ, can't wait to see pix of the Merc :001:
Hilborn mechanical injection converted to EFI throttle bodies.
I was going through an old Craftsmen tool chest that I have had since I was 14 years old the other day. I kept it in my old garage and brought it home years ago but never really did anything with it; my plan was to double check the 100's of wrenches as well as other tools to see if there was anything I might still want before I gave it to my stepson.
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I came across an old Ford 1909-27 Model T Band Adjusting Wrench, #1917U that I thought was pretty cool.
I know they aren't worth much, but figure it was still worthwhile keeping as a conversation piece.
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I'm sure that most of you are, but for those not familiar; they are used to adjust the internal nuts on the Model T reverse and brake bands. These are only under light tension from the springs on the trans shafts between the band ears, and so the tools are of very light construction. If you were to use one as a normal wrench, it would certainly stretch and/or break. If you look closely at the second pic, the ends have been stretched open.
1945 Exterior view Ford's Dexter Hydroelectric Plant, Village Industries neg DBN73767
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THF92178 / Inside Willow Run Ford Village Industry Plant Powerhouse, February 1940
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Cool video on Flathead Valve Plant in Northville Michigan
I was at the Langley Loafers Old Time Drags on the weekend, lots of Ford power. The dragster was the only nitro car there.
Terry
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My brother's 12-second Fairlane.
My nephew's 12-second Fairlaine.
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Some favourites.
A great day.
Terry
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I lost against the 56 pickup in the first round. Very nicely done and a the owner is a swell guy to.
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2023-08-07 14:49DJ, can't wait to see pix of the Merc :001:
Will post some in the off topic thread, Jim !
1965 Ford Mustang 007 concept car rear view in studio CN2605-078
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That's a nice looking Mustang. Must've been trying to cash in on Goldfinger.
1964 Ford Aurora concept front view in studio neg CN2549-036
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Imagine a couple teenagers jumping into the rear seat. That poor tailgate.
Beautiful design.
1954 Ford FX Atmos concept in studio neg 104079-006
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1962 Ford Cougar concept engine compartment neg C1082-5
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Very Kool!!!
Yeah it is......much more realistic concept than the Atmos posted above.
Notice that the pic of the 1962 Cougar concept engine compartment is flipped. Everything on the 406 is shown on the wrong side. I guess that's why it says the pic is the negative.
:023: That's why i started posting the Negative and number rather than just the name. before, people thought some of the pics were right hand drive, or PhotoChopped etc....
1963 Ford Cougar II concept rear view on scenic road neg 134556-4
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2023-08-23 17:49:023: That's why i started posting the Negative and number rather than just the name. before, people thought some of the pics were right hand drive, or PhotoChopped etc....
Before? From what you wrote at the top of your post at first I didn't get the fact that the engine compartment pic was the view of the negative since the other 3 pix you posted of that thing show the correct orientation with the steering wheel being on the left hand side.
Tom, I'm not sure I understand what you are saying, but....
The pictures are from Ford's archives that I have posted on other sites and some of the images were reversed. I used to only post the names, not the image/Negative #. Some people thought they were Photoshopped.
Keep in mind, I do not modify these images, I only post them.
For example from post #6261: "1954 Ford FX Atmos concept in studio neg 104079-006"
1967 Ford Thunderbird Apollo concept in studio CN4804-121
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1965 Mercury Comet Cyclone Sportster concept in front of scenic house AR-97-213544-8
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1955 Assembly line at Windsor Engine Plant AR-2007-5
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This bridge over the Fraser River was replaced in 1962, it is still there and you can walk across. I remember drving crossing it with my Father. On the far side the bridges along the cliff were very from the old wagon road. Very sketchy.
It is called the Alexandra Bridge and it is just below Hells Gate.
Terry
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Is the plate for Henry Ford or Hank Williams? You need to zoom in on the picture and read around the Ford logo.
I give up, too blurry when I zoom in :(
It says 'I got a hot rod FORD and a 2 dollar bill'
Quote from: FiveSevenLiter on 2023-09-12 19:11It says 'I got a hot rod FORD and a 2 dollar bill'
'en I know a spot right over the hill...' :001:
I probably know most or all of the other lines from that old upbeat 1950s era tune. Any of you other old geezers know it? Must be a vid of it on line somewhere.
I just had a late night shop session ( 3AM ) on Monday because I had to get things ready for sandblasting the next day. Hank certainly helped me make it through the night... :003:
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2023-09-13 03:19I just had a late night shop session ( 3AM ) on Monday because I had to get things ready for sandblasting the next day. Hank certainly helped me make it through the night... :003:
Several different performers recorded that tune & later on changed the original racist "like white folks might" reference to "like poor folks might" that Hank Williams used in Arkie Shibley's tune.
Anyway, this is the Red Foley version that I used to hear come on one of our few Anchorage radio stations when I was around 6 or 7 years old that has stuck in my brain all this time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FnavMJ05Cc
Maybe I think it's a little better just 'cause what I remember & I like the ending much better. I am
not a fan of the so called 'Country Music' but radio was different in the past & played every type of music. Today it seems different stations are segregated into playing only one type or style of music such as rock, country, soul & that non music called rap or maybe hip-hop. I don't know (or care) what the difference is between those two. I do think we are poorer for the radio station's segregation of music.
I do love a "HOPPED UP MODEL A"25th SHINE 013 219 KB.jpgHot rod A coupe.jpg25th SHINE 009-2.jpg31 with top 4.JPG
Tom, you have an interesting front axle setup in that A. I like the spring shackles, that also work as a mounting bracket for the tubular shocks. Very neat and clean setup !
here is a direct link to the Red Foley tune you posted - a nice one, very swinging. I won't start elaborating on modern day mass produced music, it is mostly artificial noise. When I switch on the radio I can barely listen to the news and 10 minutes after...we don't even have 'segregated' radio stations...they basically all play the same horrible stuff...with lots of advertising. there is not a single station I can get on FM, that I could stand listening to all day long. Very few sometimes have special programs dedicated to Rock or Jazz, once in a week, but that's an hour or so at 8 or 10 pm...no Blues, no Surf, no Doo Wop, no Boogie, no (motown) Soul, no Country. hardly any of our own 'Country' ( Bavarian style folk music) anymore....just a never ending line of noisy, over produced junk with horrible lyrics.
Quote from: Tom S on 2023-09-14 03:05Anyway, this is the Red Foley version that I used to hear come on one of our few Anchorage radio stations when I was around 6 or 7 years old that has stuck in my brain all this time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FnavMJ05Cc
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2023-09-14 03:13Tom, you have an interesting front axle setup in that A. I like the spring shackles, that also work as a mounting bracket for the tubular shocks. Very neat and clean setup !
Thanks! It's not really much different from others like it except for the dropped 1937 oval tube axle & maybe those brackrts. It's very, very rare to see a Ford oval tube axle that has been dropped. I took off the straight triangle shaped shackle/shock brackets that had peeling chrome on them & made the curvy shaped ones out of stainless, drilled a hole in the center, polished 'em up & put 'em on with stainless hardware. They look much better & will stay that way.
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I must have taken that pic a day or two after another one of our big earthquakes & before the earth re-leveled it's drunken self.
And that is exactly why it has such a unique look to it, Tom ! The dropped tube axle is refreshing to see and also the custom made curved stainless spring shackles/brackets. I really like it a lot !
Quote from: Tom S on 2023-09-14 03:56Thanks! It's not really much different from others like it except for the dropped 1937 oval tube axle & maybe those brackrts. It's very, very rare to see a Ford oval tube axle that has been dropped. I took off the straight triangle shaped shackle/shock brackets that had peeling chrome on them & made the curvy shaped ones out of stainless, drilled a hole in the center, polished 'em up & put 'em on with stainless hardware. They look much better & will stay that way.
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I must have taken that pic a day or two after another one of our big earthquakes & before the earth re-leveled it's drunken self.
This pic would have been a good one to use for one of those YouTube vids of the Hot Rod Race tune. It certainly would have been accurate to the time that that tune came out. If you searched for that tune you may have seen the one showing a life-like drawing of a smokin' hot babe in short shorts bending over the open hood of one of those brand X things that many call 'Tri-fives'. I'd post the pic here if it didn't have that car in it. I'd probably get banned! Don't know what the babe was expected to do under the hood with the giant combination end wrench in her hand. It looks to be damn near 18 inches long. If I had a the right pic of a '57 Ford sittin' at the right angle with its hood up I could do a little photo trickery to post here.
BTW that '31 A-bone better be runnin' a real hot flatty V8 if he thinks he's gonna outrun that '49 Merc. Then again like the old saying says, 'You cant outrun Motorola'.
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c 1913 Ford Highland Park Assembly Plant rolling chassis storage neg 99165-2
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Tom, my '49 has the original type rearend which is a 3.96. that is very low gearing. It means the Merc is quick off the traffic light. I don't know about top end speed. Whether or not if the fiery teapot carb is able to deliver higher rpms ?? probably yes ? I may find out...I plan to put a Flathead back in the 49. I have an og teapot carb and manifold and an NOS carb overhaul kit. Let's see if it leaks and put the car on fire... :003:
Quote from: Tom S on 2023-09-16 18:01BTW that '31 A-bone better be runnin' a real hot flatty V8 if he thinks he's gonna outrun that '49 Merc. Then again like the old saying says, 'You cant outrun Motorola'.
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Quote from: CobraJoe on 2023-09-26 09:21(https://i.imgur.com/BR57SyJ.jpg)
I think that the guy driving that sedan is cheating. He must have some sort of a 1950s low flying device attadhed to that 2dr sedan. Is it a 1940?
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2023-10-08 16:45I think that the guy driving that sedan is cheating. He must have some sort of a 1950s low flying device attadhed to that 2dr sedan. Is it a 1940?
Yeah. I don't see a bump or anything else that could make that thing jump anyway near that high. I thought it was a 1939 or 40 but seeing that the engine compartment sides are open leads me to believe that it is a 1937 or 38 which have hoods much like car number 8 right behind it. The hoods on 39s & 40s wrap around the upper part of the cowl & wouldn't leave that much of the engine compartment sides open.
Randy,
I have the video on this run, he did not let off and went on to win the round.
T/F
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Could have been a different pass. Looks like the front tires are both flat with more damage I would suspect.
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Different dial-in on the second picture, I will attempt to send the winning video.
T/F
:canada:
Very Special Thunderbird logo. must have been a DSO (dealer special order) item.
T/F
:canada:
Buried :085: