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Technical => Transmission Swaps => Topic started by: Geofordman on 2016-11-21 22:13

Title: Three speed column controlling an automatic.
Post by: Geofordman on 2016-11-21 22:13
I was wondering if anybody had been able to make a three in the tree column shift an AOD trans. Or do you guys feel that a proper auto column is the way to go... Cause that's gonna be a lot of extra work.
Title: Re: Three speed column controlling an automatic.
Post by: lalessi1 on 2016-11-22 06:12
For what its worth, my car had an AOD operated by a manual column. No starter lockout, no indicator, no park detent, still had the clutch pedal... I put a 4 speed in it. Auto column seems simpler and better.
Title: Re: Three speed column controlling an automatic.
Post by: Ford Blue blood on 2016-11-22 07:57
Yes, the column in my Ranchero is a 62 Bird which has roughly the same operating leverages and parts.  The shift lever hits the proper detents in the column at the same time the detents in the AOD are hit.  Took several tries to get the length and angle of the lever on the transmission correct but I did hit the "sweet" spot.

That said, it is not a bolt in.  Just work at it and keep trying.  There is a photo of what I ended up with on my build thread "Ranchero build".
Title: Re: Three speed column controlling an automatic.
Post by: canadian_ranchero on 2016-11-22 17:26
if you look under my 4.6 swap you will see what i did for a shift linkage
Title: Re: Three speed column controlling an automatic.
Post by: Ford Blue blood on 2016-11-23 06:39
Forgot to add, the column is still 100% stock so the back up light and neutral safety still hit when the detents in the column hit.  I modified the lever on the transmission so it would hit it's detents at the same time as the column.

http://57fordsforever.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6035.0;attach=15400;image

Pic of the final product....
Title: Re: Three speed column controlling an automatic.
Post by: canadian_ranchero on 2016-11-23 19:15
Quote from: Ford Blue blood on 2016-11-23 06:39
Forgot to add, the column is still 100% stock so the back up light and neutral safety still hit when the detents in the column hit.  I modified the lever on the transmission so it would hit it's detents at the same time as the column.

http://57fordsforever.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6035.0;attach=15400;image

Pic of the final product....
back up and neutral safety switch is on the side of the trans on the aod
Title: Re: Three speed column controlling an automatic.
Post by: Ford Blue blood on 2016-11-26 09:30
Quote from: canadian_ranchero on 2016-11-23 19:15
back up and neutral safety switch is on the side of the trans on the aod

Yup, not using them, using the column ones.....cars with automatic transmissions MUST have a neutral safety switch!  A fellow 57 owner (not on this site, friends with me and a friend in TN who has a 57 HT) in NH was pinned between his door and the upright of his lift.  His wife was at work and his cell phone was on the work bench.  Yup, he was there until the car ran out of gas.  Tommy was lucky to be alive, he never did get to 100% after that.  He passed a couple years ago due to complications from agent orange.
Title: Re: Three speed column controlling an automatic.
Post by: suede57ford on 2017-09-26 22:56
You can modify an original automatic shift lever and rod to work perfect with the detents on an AOD and still line up with the letters on the indicator.    The lower lever should have about a 1.5 or larger distance throw with the trans lever modified to be angled down and ahead.   

The lever on the column needs the hole redrilled in about 1" closer to the gearshift shaft.

Modify the rod to fit between those points with a way to do final adjustments.

AOD's have a built in neutral safety switch, use it, and get rid of the 57-59 style.   Ron Francis makes a harness if necessary.

I even went as far to use a three speed indicator of '58 or '59 and repainted the letters white as original '57 would be.   An original '57 with the D and 1 can be used successfully as well.