I finally have most off the efi swap done and at least running,but I have not driven it yet I have some odds and ends to tiddy up.The engine is a 1990 5.0 Ho with ado.I found the engine and trans on craigslist with 39000 miles on itI swapped 3.73 into the nine inch so it should go down the road nice.I put four wheel discs on it a few years back.During this swap I did Ricks rack setup and I'm also doing a supercooler from vintage air.I have all the seats out right now and cleaning the floor pan and installing a simular product like dyanamat.I can't wait to drive it hopefully there won't be to many bugs to work out,but there always is.
Joe
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Heres some of the exhaust that I did,I still have to run the tail pipes.It's all 2.5" with flowmaster 2 chambers.I'll include some of the interior.
I'll include one of the rack also.
Joe
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Joe, looks good. I'd like to see it. Mark 414-303-3681
Mark no problem call my cell when you can stop,over it's located in West Allis right now. 111th Lincoln.I've been working on it during the and some nights.
Joe 414-573-0656
Hi. What type of steering column and steering wheel are you using. Thanks HR
The column is from ididit I don't recall the length I orderd it over two years ago.The wheel is just to move the car around the shop it's off a 56 chevy (forgive me) lol I want to run a ford wheel of some sorts but it's a gm style column.
Joe
May I ask where you mounted the computer and what you did with any unused wiring from computer harness?
Sorry I haven't checked in in awhile,I mounted the computer inside the car,passenger side on the firewall.It's right about where the cut out where the inside heater box would have been.I hade to take out the factory heater and fresh air to make way for the vintage air unit.
I can see where your floor tunnel looks like it was reworked on the passenger side. Did you have to do this to make room for the AOL? I've heard people say it'll fit without altering your tunnel,and others say it won't.
The floor was not touched at all,you might be confusing it with the dynamat like material I put down for noise and heat,but the floor was 100% untouched.
Joe
Looking at the interior pic, I guess the light reflecting off the dynamat at the slight buldge on the right side near the toeboard made it looked more pronounced than it actually is.
I realize this is an old topic, however I was wondering what the engine came out of. Or more specifiacally what vehicles had the pre-modular 5.0 ho as an option. I want to end up with a 4.6 dohc eventually but after following r claiborn's posts on his install, I'm thinking of a simpler route to get my car on the road sooner while I'm saving for the 4.6. ALSO AM i CORRECT IN ASSUMING THE PRE-MODULAR 5.0 IS THE SAME ENGINE AS THE 302 WITH THE NEW LITER DESIGNATIONS THEY WENT TO IN THE 80'S.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2010-08-29 13:22
I realize this is an old topic, however I was wondering what the engine came out of. Or more specifiacally what vehicles had the pre-modular 5.0 ho as an option. I want to end up with a 4.6 dohc eventually but after following r claiborn's posts on his install, I'm thinking of a simpler route to get my car on the road sooner while I'm saving for the 4.6. ALSO AM i CORRECT IN ASSUMING THE PRE-MODULAR 5.0 IS THE SAME ENGINE AS THE 302 WITH THE NEW LITER DESIGNATIONS THEY WENT TO IN THE 80'S.
mustangs had the 5L ho and mark vii had them also.the 5L [302]is very similar from 1968 on.they went roller cam on the cars in 86 the trucks a little later.they changed the balance in about 82.most parts will swap,depending on the year of engine.i am hoping to do my 4cam swap over the winter for about $2500[i have about $1200 in it now]
Rich the 5.0 HO in Mustangs was up through 95. The MK 7 was an HO as well and the Bird 5.0 was HO in all respects except the intake (lower to clear the Bird hood and more restrictive) and the exhaust system. The Crown Vic/Mercury Marque/Continental/truck 5.0 was a lower output speed density system. Not a bad system, just not as flexible as the mass air systems. I put the speed density 5.0 in a 66 Falcon Ranchero with 5-speed and 3:23 gears and got an honest 32 on the road at 65. Useing 72/73 F-150 302 mounts makes it nearly a bolt in with no exhaust clearance problems.
Thanks for the info Gary and Bill. Did the vehicles mentiond above come with an AOD, or AODE? It is my understanding that the 4r70w was a lincoln 4.6 tranny only at this timeframe (pre96)
I think I need to start a new post comparing this and the 4.6 posts Rich
Rich not sure when the switch over happened. My 93 F150 had the ADO. Google "Ford AOD" and you will find more info then you can digest in one sitting.
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Thanks for the info Gary and Bill. Did the vehicles mentiond above come with an AOD, or AODE? It is my understanding that the 4r70w was a lincoln 4.6 tranny only at this timeframe (pre96)
I think I need to start a new post comparing this and the 4.6 posts Rich
the crown vic only had a AOD,mustang started to use the AODE in 94.the t-bird AOD only.lincoln AOD only.trucks started using the 4R70W in 94.[note this list is 5L only]
What motor mounts did you use?
What type of fuel pedal did you use?
These days I am asking everyone what radiator they are using. Yours looks like it might be a Griffin. Can you tell me what it is and if it is a bolt in using the 57 mounting holes.
Dennis
The explorers had 302ho with GT 40 heads until 2001.
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These days I am asking everyone what radiator they are using. Yours looks like it might be a Griffin. Can you tell me what it is and if it is a bolt in using the 57 mounting holes.
Dennis
Yes it is a griffin and yes it is 100% bolt in factory holes.
Joe
Thanks Joe.
I had prety much decided on a Griffin and then when I saw your installation, I was convinced that this would be the best fit. I ordered one for my Custom 300 that I am installing a modified 351 Cleveland into.
Wighty
So just a rough estimate on the time invested in the swap?
I have done many 35-40 Fords etc so I am familiar with the pitfalls on those particular years but I am a 1957 Ford virgin.
I didn't keep track of time,I worked on it at work when I had spare time.I also have a lift which was a huge help.It was time consuming but doing anything correctly usally is.Thats funny you mentioned 35-40 fords I just picked up a 36 3 window Ford coupe that I'm going to do.I may end up running the Yblock out of my 57 wagon in it.
Joe
I should mention if your set on keeping your factory steering box you will run into trouble with the exhuast headers I ran.I'm running the shorty BBK off a mustang.I'm unsure if the factory headers from a mustang or Lincoln will clear or if you would have to find some older cast iron units,but theres no way mine would come close to fitting.I installed a rack and pinion setup so theres no issues with that.The passenger side upper control arm needed minor trimming or grinding so there was no contact.Overall it''s not a hard swap but it takes time fabbing stuff up from scratch.
Joe
This is a old topic but just wanted to let everyone know how the wagon turned out.The thing is a blast and joy to drive,it doesen't have any of the old car quirks or tricks to drive it.Get in hit the key with no worries and good milage to boot.I have a little over 5000 miles on it the first year without any issues.I do have to charge the air and figure out what to do for ac vents but it's pretty much done,the hard part is keeping my wife from driving it.Of course if I was doing it today without a budget I would be running the new 5.0 from Ford,now thats a Awesome engine and they sell it with a aftermarket control wiring harness,oh well next time.LOL
Joe
Joe, glad to hear you have been able to enjoy all of your hard work.I have the 58 on the road, returned it to the shop to fine tune it, install the ac and finish the interior. Do you still have the car at the shop? or somewhere else. I'd like to drive over and check it out. Finally warming up around here. Mark
It's at my buddys pole barn for winter storage but I would like to get it this week if it would stop raing for a few minutes!!LOL It will be at my house or work depending on when you want to stop by,just call my cell,I don't check this site very often.
Joe