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Technical => General Tech Discussion => Topic started by: Ford_Crazy on 2010-08-08 16:14

Title: More Radiator Questions?
Post by: Ford_Crazy on 2010-08-08 16:14
I installed my stock Y-block 57 radiator in my car for a trial fit with my 390 FE motor.  It seems the stock Y-block radiator bolts to the support and sticks out to the rear of the car.  I only have about 2 1/2" between the water pump and the radiator and can't use a clutch fan.   A friend told me I need a 57 6 cylinder radiator which bolts to the support but runs forward through the hole giving me more clearance.  I have another friend with a 23,000 mile 1957 Ford 6 cylinder parts car with a radiator he will sell me, but I'm pretty sure it won't cool my 390.  I measured the hole in the radiator support and its 24" wide and about 18" high.  This means I may be able to use a universal aluminum radiator if I work up some custom mounts.  Of course there's always the Griffin option...  Can anyone that's been through this verify my options?  Thanks!
Title: Re: More Radiator Questions?
Post by: Ford Blue blood on 2010-08-09 08:58
Don't bet on that 6 banger not cooling, might surprise you how well it will work.
Title: Re: More Radiator Questions?
Post by: Ford_Crazy on 2010-08-09 09:27
I can buy it cheap.  Should I try it?
Title: Re: More Radiator Questions?
Post by: canadian_ranchero on 2010-08-09 10:26
check the bottom outlet.i think they are on opposite sides
Title: Re: More Radiator Questions?
Post by: Ford_Crazy on 2010-08-09 17:01
I checked and the 6 cylinder radiator definitely won't work.  The hose connections are very different.
Title: Re: More Radiator Questions?
Post by: KidKourier on 2010-08-09 17:56
    How about taking the V8 radiator to your local radiator guy and have him flip the brackets or cut 1/4" slots on top of your core support in front of original mounting location dropping radiator in front of it then use longer bolts,spacers,lock washers and nuts? Should give you the added space you need and use the existing radiator with just the cost of mounting hardware. KID
Title: Re: More Radiator Questions?
Post by: shopratwoody on 2010-08-10 11:20
Any rad shop can change the outlet location. Had the bottom done
on mine 50 yrs ago.
Title: Re: More Radiator Questions?
Post by: Ford_Crazy on 2010-08-10 11:54
I'm looking into using a Universal Aluminum radiator from Summit.  Looks promising.  I'll post when I have it worked out.
Title: Re: More Radiator Questions?
Post by: jwtdvm on 2010-08-10 14:58
make sure your motor mounts arent backward making the engine too far forward--I dont run a clutch fan but I do have a small spacer between water pump and fan with no problems--that original rad which checked out fine at the shop used to cool a 428 pulling a 20 foot trailer
Title: Re: More Radiator Questions?
Post by: Ford_Crazy on 2010-08-10 15:48
In order to drop a FE motor and 4 speed into a 1957 Ford and have the transmission cross member line up, you have to turn the stock motor mounts backward.  I've looked at a bunch of FE 57 swaps and most of them use the stock 57 V8 radiator with a normal non-clutch fan.  Even saw a 427 SOHC with this setup.  The universal aluminum radiators are definitely an option, but the car will lose some of its vintage look.  After a bunch of research, I think I'm going to order a new 3 row 57 V8 radiator and use a non-clutch Galaxie fan and be done with it.
Title: Re: More Radiator Questions?
Post by: Bubba on 2010-08-11 10:29
Bros:
Don't overlook SPEEDWAY they have their own line of universal aluminum radiators which are very reasonably priced and are available in at least three different sizes.  Also Ford had two different radiators [perhaps 3] for V8 equipped cars in 57.  The HD radiator has fewer and wider "ribs" on the top tank.
BuBBa
Title: Re: More Radiator Questions?
Post by: Ford_Crazy on 2010-08-12 18:19
 I decided to order a Summit universal radiator.  With a little work on the radiator support, it looks like it will drop right in the hole where the 6 cylinder radiator fits allowing me to use my clutch fan.  The whole thing with brackets only  costs about $200, so it if doesn't work I haven't lost much.  Stay tuned...