Anyone mount the motor under the dash, if so what did you use and have any pictures to share?
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Cut the lower cowl tank from a 58 Ford, weld it into the lower tank of your 57, use all 58 stuff, its the easiest way. You also get the added benefit of arms instead of cables too. Thats what Tom Drummondand I both did.
Did you guys find a good 58 defrost duct, or modify one? Mark
Mark, Ride down and look at my set up, or maybe James can post some of the pictures I sent him. I always have trouble trying to post pictures. Tom
I'll try to post those up later today. It is really the best setup, uses factory Ford parts. Ford should have come up with that a year earlier.
You will either have to find an intact 58 part (good luck), or modify your 57 part. Mycar is everything delete so I'm not ysing one. The 58 part I had was intact when I took it out, but disintegrated during the ride home. Its just cardboard, so if you have one fairly intact, mix up some fiberglass resin and brush it on liberally, inside too if you can reach far enough into it. I had planned to do that to mine, but it didnt survive the trip home.
James, I started cutting up a 57 duct and decided to fix the 58. I mixed up some fiberglass and troweled it on the bad spots. Then I went over the missed spots with seam sealer. Tonight I compared the 58 and the 57 side by side, the firewall is the same except for the holes on the 57 for the wiper motor.I believe the difference is on the inner firewall, just below the cowl.That is where the 58 mounts the wiper motor. When I did the 58 installation of the electric motor, I had the dash out and took pictures. Hopefully I can find them and post them, I figured this topic would come up. Tom, I need to get this car a little further along, then I'll be ready for a road trip and to see what you are up to. I have this car home in my shop now and am working on it almost daily. Got comformation on haggerty insurance today, they are talking 70 degrees this weekend, so things are looking good. This has been a long cold spring in the midwest, rarely out of the 30s. Mark
By any chance 59 same as 58?
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I don't know for sure, but I bet it is. Many of the 58 parts are the same on the 59. I just ordered door gaskets, window gaskets and other parts from dearbourn classics, most stuff fit the 59 too. Took a long time to get through to dearborn, the were bought by a Chevy parts supplier.I told him not to pollute dearborn, ha ha Mark
No, 59 is completely different. I got the wiper transmissions from a 59, and nothing is the same about them, the rods are longer, the wiper motor mounts in a different place, best bet is a 58...
just so I am clear (easily distracted I am) besides all the obvious wiper related parts I should also cut out piece of the firewall where the motor assembly itself mounts. Anyone have a picture of that install or a factory part book illustration?
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Don't mean to be doing this > :deadhorse: but guess I am.
Just for reference sake, because mine is allready done, I'd like to see some pics of the cowl area work needed also. I of course went the more difficult route...seems to be my modus operendii (sp?). And also I think I may have asked this before...are the '58 motors rebuildable, or available as a repop? I ask because it seems '58's are a lot scarcer than '57's.
Guys, I think I mentioned that the 58 is also vaccum operated. So if you go inboard you need to get the electric replacement. I have a 58 shop manual that has a picture of the stock setup and the cowl linkage. I don't have a scanner to send the pics. I'll go in and look at my camera disc, I know I took pictures with the dash out. Stay tuned, Mark
Hey guys, sorry it took so long, I suck at computers! :deadhorse:
Check out the pictures I took before I put my dash back in the 58. It shows the wiper motor area and the cowl area.
(http://i51.tinypic.com/28lb2wh.jpg)
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2zyk61j.jpg)
pictures are great, what motor and arms did you use?
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Zap, the arms and bezels arm from a 58 ford, the motor I got from Newport engineering. I think it was on ebay. Nice kit, came with a switch and wiring. I was able to put a 58 knob on their switch, 2-speed motor. Probably was one of the easier upgrades I did on this car.Now bolting this on a 57 will be a different deal.When I get time I'll put a set of arms on the 57, and see if a motor could be installed without the 58 cowl, with some sheet metal mods. Mark
I'm not sure really what you have to start with, but I just bought the Newport kit for my 57. I had it bolted on and wired in under 3 hours. If you use the stock location for the switch, you need to make sure you get the "shaft extension" kit. It held me up since I had to re-order.
Nice kit works perfect.
Roothawg, I'm just one of those stubborn guys that likes to find different ways rather than 1-800 parts. Even though there is nothing wrong with that approach. Been "recycling" parts from all different sources for 40+ years now don't believe its possible to change that now. That been said I do on occasion buy from the aftermarket.
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I'm sure there is a motor out there that will work, the back and forth sweep could be a problem.Most newer motors go round & round. My car came with a stock motor adapted to it, but it was a frustrating piece of crap so I bought one. I think it was under $200 Mark
It's probably been mentioned but 57 Chev electric motors bolt on, I am using one. Another thought-Chevs used cables and spools like Ford did; Chev motor bolts up to Ford; Pacific Western Design makes a link system for 57 Chev to replace cables; ergo ( :003:) maybe Pac West unit can be made to work on Ford(?)
I for one would like to use a different system. Maybe this group should do a poll and give the data to Pac West Design to help persuade them.
I am making several assumptions here...the '57 chev "bolt in replacement" is a back and forth sweep,as well as the Newport Engrg. '58 ford motor???
I looked at the Pac west '57 chev kit...very complicated install even in '57 chevs...location of all the components looks like it would not work for '57 fords (It looks like it would interfere with defrost ducts in their intirety aside from placing the motor in the brake/clutch bracket area. And at 480. it's alot of money for something that would need heavy modification) Sounds like the '58 setup is the easiest way to go by far.
If any interested members missed it, I had a long post last year about installing a '97 Mustang wiper motor (roundy-round, not back and forth) inside the cowl. there's a pic of the modified wiper shafts and hard links I fabricated to make it work on the '57 with our one-going clockwise-and-one going counterclockwise setup.The post is in the general technical discusion area, currently page 7. Also, I'm posting a pic of the sealed access door for the wiper motor. I found an outdoor electrical box that should be pretty leakproof to bond to the cowl area. Not too pretty, but functional and no one will see it.
Rich
So the Pac West wouldn't fit in the space currently occupied by the cables and spools, with the motor remaining in the stock location?
Guys, here's a shot of the 58 wiper arms.
(http://i55.tinypic.com/30rqgyh.jpg)
After searching for information online its apparent to me that the simplest & best way to install electric wipers is to do it the way Ford should have done it in the first place. And that is to use nothing but 58 parts from the cowl forward and and a early 60s (again ford) electric motor. If you look at Frankenstein57's latest posting you know that it doesn't get any better. I thought finding the 58 parts would be hard but have found them rather easy to find thanks to the internet.
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That's a nice clean set-up. Zap..just make sure that 'early 60's electric motor goes back and forth, not roundy-round. When both connecting links are connected to the wiper motor arm, a roundy-round won't work. Does anyone know at what point Ford stopped using the back and forth motor?
Rich
Quote from: cool57 on 2011-04-23 17:27
So the Pac West wouldn't fit in the space currently occupied by the cables and spools, with the motor remaining in the stock location?
Are we talking about the same thing here..here is what I found for Pacific western design's '57 chev kit. I have no idea what the original '57 chev setup was, but it looks to me like this kit is desined to come back thru the firewall with all of the linkage on the interior side of the firewall (on the '57 fords right where the defrost duct plenum is.) I don't see how or why you would want to adapt this to a '57 ford, especally modiying it so the motor ends up in the original location on the engine side of the firewall. If you're willing to that much work, why pay $500... just by a salvage yard late model setup and adapt it.I think I paid 50.00 for my complete setup from a '97 mustang including the electronic control module.
Mark... Thanks for posting the pics...we finally get to see what the setup looks like after talking about it for so long. I'm confused as usual though...I'm trying to figure out the pic of the wiper motor and defrost plenum. It looks like you have the plenum attached to the cowl in the picture..is that how '58's are setup? My '57 has the plenum attached to the dashboard. Thanks Rich
Zap...almost forgot a biggie..and the whole reason I went specifically with a '97 Mustang wiper motor...
I'm almost useless when it comes to electrical stuff, but the motor you select needs to be compatible with what you want to use as a switch, otherwise you could get into some major electrical problems. Bill could give you better input on that. My setup for example started by wanting to use all the factory controls built into the '97 Mustang steering column I was using, including the wiper intermitent switch(arm). The only way I could do that(or at least the easiest way) I was told was to have a wiper motor compatible with the swich and control box. It was easier for me to adapt the Mustang wiper motor than to find an electrical guru that could try and wire my switch to the 'easier to install '58 wiper motor. Kinda a reverse order of things, but you get the point of considering the electrical switching end of the swap.
btw..I sent a pm to Jim Nolan asking him if the stock wiper motor on his '63 is a back and forth setup.
Rich
Rich,the 58 defrost duct is rather fragile. I was having trouble getting it over the electric motor without breaking it, so it wouldn't be any easier with the dash in the way. I installed the heater, then left the duct loosely attached to the heater. Then the dash just dropped on top of the duct studs. Zap, curious why you moved on to a 60's vintage electric motor? I know you take pride in reusing salvage parts, but at some point your time has to be worth something too. As an ex racer,I also get a kick out of making older parts work on our upgrades and mods. I think the hot rod industry has really exploded with kit cars, chassis replacements, not to many home builders left. On my 57 I spent a whole weekend installing a GM van column, I don't like it. I'm going to replace it with an aftermarket piece. :deadhorse: : Mark
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2011-04-24 06:03
That's a nice clean set-up. Zap..just make sure that 'early 60's electric motor goes back and forth, not roundy-round. When both connecting links are connected to the wiper motor arm, a roundy-round won't work. Does anyone know at what point Ford stopped using the back and forth motor?
Rich
RICH,ford used the back and forth motor on the 60 edsel,ford full size 60-early 62[6-15-62]merc61-early 62.i used this motor on a other early ford project,and the cable switch from the vacuum motor bolted right on.59 may be the same but i have not looked at one
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2011-04-24 06:03
That's a nice clean set-up. Zap..just make sure that 'early 60's electric motor goes back and forth, not roundy-round. When both connecting links are connected to the wiper motor arm, a roundy-round won't work. Does anyone know at what point Ford stopped using the back and forth motor?
Rich
I hate quoting myself when I'm wrong but I was. Jim Nolan just confirmed that his '63 has a continuous rotation motor, but he also said both wipers were driven by one long linking rod. I wasn't thinking in terms of connecting one rod to the motor arm with a pivot joint in the
middle and driving both wipers from one rod. I was further thinking you could also attach two seperate connecting links with ball joint pivots at the ends to the arm of a roundy-round motor, you just need to attach them both to the same end of the short arm, not oposite ends like the photo of the '58 setup shows.
Gary...great info as always..we need to archive that for future reference
Rich,
I told you wrong. I have two arms (one about 20" long and one about 10" long, don't quote me on length) that feed off the small two inch arm attached to the wiper motor itself. The amount of sweep on the wiper blade is controlled by the length of the small arm attached to the continuous wiper motor. The reason they made two or three different small wiper motor arm lengths is because the same motor was put on different cars with different windshields.
It dawned on me that this same motor and drive system could very easily be adapted to a 57 using the same hole as the original location. You just have to have two arms that go from the small 2" wiper motor arm to the wiper assembly, and then adjust you sweep by the length of the small wiper motor arm.
I told Rich the first time that it just had one arm that attached to both wiper assemblies with a piviot for the small 2" wiper motor arm. I was wrong.
The continuous rotation of the small 2" wiper motor arm results in the @ 50 degree sweep of the wiper arm assembley. Jim
I'm confused now and I just got through putting a new wiper motor on the 63 and adjusting the stop position. Jim
The part about using a continuous wiper motor on a 57 is leaning toward stupidity, think about it. 04/25/2011 Jim
Guys,
I need to add that both wiper blades with a 63 setup would travel in the same direction.
Since I drive in the rain quite a bit I really like the wiper blade movement of the original setup. So far my system has only failed me once and that's because I didn't have the cable tension set right. So far I've put about 2000 miles on the car this year just driving it within 50 miles of home. Jim
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2011-04-24 06:23
Are we talking about the same thing here..here is what I found for Pacific western design's '57 chev kit. I have no idea what the original '57 chev setup was, but it looks to me like this kit is desined to come back thru the firewall with all of the linkage on the interior side of the firewall (on the '57 fords right where the defrost duct plenum is.) I don't see how or why you would want to adapt this to a '57 ford, especally modiying it so the motor ends up in the original location on the engine side of the firewall. If you're willing to that much work, why pay $500... just by a salvage yard late model setup and adapt it.I think I paid 50.00 for my complete setup from a '97 mustang including the electronic control module.
I didn't realize the motor for the Chev application mounted the way it does in the pic you posted. I wrongly assumed the motor mounted on the engine side of the firewall.
Quote from: Frankenstein57 on 2011-04-24 07:48
Zap, curious why you moved on to a 60's vintage electric motor?
I'll be using a 59-61 motor because that is what the guys that have already done this swap tell me works. If someone has a Hollander interchange manual I'd be curious to know all sources for those.
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Zapato,
Electric Wiper Motors
No. 362 - 59 Ford and Edsel Pass. only
No. 209 - 60 Edsel, 60-62 Ford Pass., 61-62 Mercury / 1 sp. C0AF17508E 60-early 61, 2 sp. C2AZ17508B late 61-62
No. 383 - single sp. 62 Ford Pass., 62 Fairlane, 62 Meteor, 62 Mercury
No. 415 - single sp. 63-64 Ford Pass and Mercury
No. 416 - 2 sp. 63-64 Ford Pass. and Mercury
1954-66 Hollander Interchange
Jim
looking at the hollander list puzzles me (lol...I'm tired of being confused...so this time I'll be puzzled) How can the 62 and 63 wiper motors interchange with the 59-61 if the 62 up are continuous and the 59-61 are back and forth? Rich
Rich,
My Hollender book shows about 5 different motors from 59-64. The 59 motor won't fit a 60 car. A 61-62 motor won't fit a 63-64 car. I think what Zapato was saying is that people use those motors to adapt to a 57. Along with that adaption you'd have to use arms and linkage for whatever type drive it was, back and forth or continuous. I don't think he meant you could just hang the motor on a 57 and be done with it. I hope he didn't mean that.
Come to think about it, how could you hang a continuous motor on a 57. The arm's are evenly spaced on the 57 and the continuous motors are made for cars that the wiper blades go the same direction and the location of the passenger wiper is at the center of the car. I hadn't gave that thought. Jim
I thought what Zap was asking was if there were any other motors other than the ones he mentioned that would interchange with the '58 linkage setup and '58 motor location he is planning on using.
Since we're discussing it, the attached photo is of the linkage I made to adapt a continuous motor to the '57's need for one clockwise and one counterclockwise movement. The linkage wasn't laid out too well when I took the photo...The #2 arm is just laying under the "direction changer pivot bar #5, it is not attached to it.
#8 	 are the stock '57 wiper shafts with all of the pulleys and excess casting removed. The shafts are press fit into #3 and #10, and eventually welded after the setup was checked out.
The #2 arm attaches to the motor at location#1, and to the #3 wiper shaft/bar. I could not directly connect the #4 arm to the other wiper because as we mentioned, one wiper would be up when the other was down. what I did to remedy this was to create another pivot bar, #5, which pivots in the middle,attaching the #4 arm on one end and the #7 passenger arm on the other end. Now the continuous motor works with both wipers down at the same time.
That additional pivot bar is attached to a piece of tubing (#6) welded to the cowl just under the air intake grille.The arms and some swivel hardware are '97 Mustang. The two arms that are connecting to the direction changer pivot bar are using carburetor throttle ball joint swivels with a 1/4-28 thread.The pivot bar has a bronze bushing and a 1/4" ground shoulder screw for the rotating mechanism.
oops...I lost the #10 on the pic... It is the bar on the end of the #7 arm. All arm lengths were modified by cutting the 1/4" i.d. u channel that the arms were manufactured from, and welding 1/4-28 nuts on the ends. This allowed me to use 1/4-28 allthread to make the arms any length I needed, and be adjustable.
I'd be surprised if anybody else in the world needed to do this but me..lol Rich
Rich,
I can see how it works now. Trying to visualize in my head how to make a continuous wiper motor work on a 57 has caused me to bust 2 blood vessels in my brain and I've forgotten everything I remembered before the age of seven. LOL Jim PS. That is a good job of design and it's no more elaborate than what came on a 57 to begin with.
Quote from: Zapato on 2011-04-25 19:11
I'll be using a 59-61 motor because that is what the guys that have already done this swap tell me works. If someone has a Hollander interchange manual I'd be curious to know all sources for those.
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see my post on page 2.that is the list of back and forth motors
I know this is well into this discussion but, has anyone tried any of the tube/cable kits you see for use in hot rods?
Like SPW as seen http://www.specialtypowerwindows.com/products.php?c=2&t=13 and http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SPECIALTY-POWER-WINDOWS-WIPER-DRIVE-KIT-HOT-ROD-RAT-ROD-/310114860739
or
Its a snap wiper kit http://www.hotrodhotline.com/pr/2010/010itsasnapfeb/
or
http://www.hotrodssuperstore.com/winwipkit.html
These systems are very similar to the ones made by Lucas/BMC and seen in MGs Morris, Triumphs etc.
guys,
Just curious if anyone has bought one of the new two speed 12 volt electric wiper motor replacements for their 57. I don't mean a Delco Remy motor. If you did, were you happy with it and was you able to use the old control knob. I don't like the knob with the windshield wiper picture on it. Jim
Jim, it wouldn't take much to rework the stock knob to fit a different switch. just get anyone with a lathe to whip up a threaded bushing that matches your stocker, drill it out and epoxy it in. ----OR----- find one of those thread repair kits believe permatex makes them, drill your knob,fill it with the ix from the kit,coat the threads with the supplied release agent, screw it in,let it set-up and you're free of that dorky knob with the wiper pattern.
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Zapato,
My Delco Remy motor has one fault to it that I don't like. When it's running the lower part of the windshield doesn't get swept. When you turn it off it goes to the bottom of th windshield for the park position though. I'd like it to sweep the whole windshield.
I joined Tri-five.com just to see if my windshield wiper motor had an adjustable sweep and adjustable park position. It doesn't. It's operating like it suppose to. I just wondered if the new replacement that they have for our cars would be better than a delco remy. Jim
Jim I have missed something.......new replacement? Are you talking about the Newport Enrineering setup or a different motor?
YES
Great day so far, traded some future louver work for the cowl piece, arms etc... from a 58. Still need a 59-61 wiper motor so if anyone has a lead I'm still hunting. He's parting out a 58 Fairlane 500 more door type so if anyone is looking for say a steering box or whatever I can forward his contact info.
GREAT DAY!
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Almost forgot will soon have a contact number for a guy that has the rear floor shelf piece I need for my business coupe, like I said a great day.
I've done this swap on a 58 Edsel and the wiper motor I used was a marine wiper motor. They have two speeds, adjustable sweep, adjustable park and they sweep back and forth
not 360 degrees. The brand I used is Ongaro, which has a huge selection. The only problem I had was the cardboard ducting.
rmk57, do you remember model number, so far comparing price direct for ongaro one was $189- and from an online dealer a very reasonable $79-, guess I won't be buying direct if I go with ongaro.
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found TRICO website this morning,requested model # and dealer info for a new motor that will work as a replacement for a 59-61 lets see what they recommend.
finding that most of the manufacturer sites list model numbers and you're supposed to know what you need,but Trico does have a contact us email spot for average joes seeking specific product information.
Sorry, I dont have the part #, it was 5-6 years ago when I did the swap but I do remember using the short shaft I think it was 1.5 inches. Gotta go hockeys on....
Tried the trico site and for my use they were pretty worthless, Ongaro however did send me a jpeg file that gave specs for motors meant to be direct drive for single wipers, which means a back and forth motion, And that got me thinking about all those thousands of rear window wipers found on suv, vans, etc... There has to one out there with similar sweep angle. Then just minutes ago wandered into a new site (for me). www.Instructables.com . And low and behold there is a how-to by a guy who adapted one off a cherokee onto an early jeep to get rid of his vacuum wipers. So maybe there is a truly simple and lobuck answer using oem parts.
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Are there any multiple speed rear wipers out there?
Have all the parts now, the 58 cowl pieces and arms were a surprising easy find, then was contacted by Oris Hove out of South Dakota he had the early factory electric wiper motors, switches and cable. Will check it all out but its nice to gather another piece of the puzzle. And will be done with all OEM parts and very little money.
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I'm using a motor & rack & pinions from a 60's Morris. These were common in MG's, Jaguar's, Austins & a whole load of English cars from the 50's to the 80's. They're quite compact, can be twin speed/self parking and the rack & tubes can be cut down to any size.
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwtrWrM-LnXXVINX7CtM-AKdCY7gOYjmb930MhMBCBkKHk2Wu1_wOLZNsc)
Limey, that was a common option pushed by the magazines in the 70/80s. a neat alternative specially since the motor could be mounted far away and since it basicly uses speedometer cables for drives one was never limited by the original design. There was some trick to plumbing the lines so that you could have opposing wipers as our 57s have, believe it was simply driving it from the opposite side. I thought of using that kind of set-up till I found a way using Ford parts, plus having had several British cars in my early years I have nothing good to say about anything labeled Lucas, now if said Bosch I'd reconsider.
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All you have to do is remove one of the wheel-boxes & flip it over.
I hear you on the reliability, British built cars were beyond a joke regarding reliability up to the 90's. Nowadays the "British makes" are all foriegn owned anyway, but the British unrelibility still creeps in now & again.
limey...that sure is a whole lot simpler than what I went thru fabing a complete wiper arm assembly starting with a '97 Mustang setup (long story).
Zap....not to change the subject, but in rereading the earlier posts in this thread, you talked about getting a contact number for a guy who had the business coupe rear package shelf....anything ever happen with that?
Also, a local yard here has a '58 he'll cut the cowl area out of, but wants 150. for it...as much work as it would be to graft it onto the '57 cowl, I personally would just do it from scratch. I've got a rather poor pic of it if anybody wants to see what the '58 cowl wiper motor area looks like.
Rich
I'm still waiting for that contact information. I would think that $150- is a bit steep for that small piece of sheetmetal. I traded some future louver work for my piece along with the arms, wiper posts and arms heating duct and the outer cowl vent piece.
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The 150. was because of where the car was in the yard and the number of cars they'd have to move to get to it so they could bring it to their shop area where they do the cutting. If I had portable cutting equipt I could probably get the piece for 20.
Quote from: Limey57 on 2011-11-07 13:42
I'm using a motor & rack & pinions from a 60's Morris. These were common in MG's, Jaguar's, Austins & a whole load of English cars from the 50's to the 80's. They're quite compact, can be twin speed/self parking and the rack & tubes can be cut down to any size.
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwtrWrM-LnXXVINX7CtM-AKdCY7gOYjmb930MhMBCBkKHk2Wu1_wOLZNsc)
These are similar
Like SPW as seen http://www.specialtypowerwindows.com/products.php?c=2&t=13 and http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SPECIALTY-POWER-WINDOWS-WIPER-DRIVE-KIT-HOT-ROD-RAT-ROD-/310114860739
Its a snap wiper kit http://www.hotrodhotline.com/pr/2010/010itsasnapfeb/
http://www.hotrodssuperstore.com/winwipkit.html
These systems are very similar to the ones made by Lucas/BMC and seen in MGs Morris, Triumphs etc.
I have done the 58 swap on my 57 Ranchero .It works great as you use all Ford factory parts. I took the easy way out and used the Newport Eng. unit on the 300 and it burnt up in the first real rain it was ever in coming back from Columbus this year. The Newport was 4 years old, but that was only the second time the car was in the rain, and only the first time it had to run over 1/2 hour. On my Sunliner I used a 61 Ford electric wiper motor and mounted it in the original spot on the cowl, this also works good, but I like the clean look of hiding the motor under the dash.
Quote
TFG, I've always believed those kits trace their heritage to the Lucas wipers. Seldom seen are new ideas lots of improving but not always when copying proven designs. Main improvement with these is they come with directions that explain how to install and set sweep angles.
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Tom,
Thanks for that post. I wondered about the Newport Eng. wiper motor. I've got the old Delco unit that came out in the 1950's. It's seen hours of continued use with no problems. I do need to look for a spare unit though. It won't be Newport Eng. Thanks for the information. Jim
Quote:"Main improvement with these is they come with directions that explain how to install and set sweep angles."
Zap...so true for many non-mechanics like myself...I won't hesitate to install the Ron Francis wiring kit or the Rack and pinion set-up from Sparky, but to start a project from scratch (or salvaging components from other vehicles) for many things requires a whole new set of knowledge.
Rich, i think you have that knowledge or at least another set that equals it. What you did figuring out arms and adapting the Mustang set-up is nothing short of incredible.
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Quote from: Zapato on 2011-11-10 10:22
QuoteTFG, I've always believed those kits trace their heritage to the Lucas wipers. Seldom seen are new ideas lots of improving but not always when copying proven designs. Main improvement with these is they come with directions that explain how to install and set sweep angles.
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I agree, I the directions and or shared knowledge such as found on this site, are always the best route. I did get a chance to see a setup like theses being installed in a 38 Cheby Truck and immediately thought this would be a good way to go for us. It is very simple, clean, and it does not take up a lot of space. Most of all, you do not have to cut up your car, something I am not to keen on doing, as needed for the 58 conversion.