Dropped the 351C in the Ranchero this afternoon. Used NAPA supplied 63/64 Galaxie 260/289 mounts. Don't remember which is which ( L or R ) but installed on the engine they ate 12 1/2 inches from the end of the block (surface the bell bolts to). Given the 351 pan is just a touch larger then the 289/302 pan I had to put a 5/16 inch spacer between the mount and the chassis bracket. Used the 5/16 because there were two pieces the right size in the drop pile, 1/4 might be OK as well. With this spacer the bottom holes lined up perfect and it dropped in with just a little wiggle side to side. Pan clearance is good with the closest being a 1/2 inch. Will put a couple of pics up tomorrow, had to wrap up early because of pending storms (which didn't happen).
Part #s are 602-1133 & 602-1134
Couple of shots, will add when the exhaust manifolds are dumbied up.
Excellent!
Keep the photos coming. I have those mounts for my 302 going in, and I also have the other 68 Mustang/Ranchero mounts in case my installer wants to fabricate different chassis-side mounts.
You can see these mounts here...they use a bolt that fastens horizontally...
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?carcode=1127270&parttype=5552&partkey=314925&a=FRc1127270k314925-2516675
I would also like to see what tranny and mounts/cross member you are using.
Thanks!
Rob
A 93 AOD is on the shop floor waiting it's turn. I will post pics of the mount after it is ready.
Looks awesome!
Are you going to replace the harmonic balancer? Looks to be in rough shape.
Nope...looks nasty buy when I degreed the cam it was dead on. If it ain't droke....don't fix it!
FWIW The balancer was right on on my boat motor too. I replaced it with a remanufactured one.
It came undone and broke the crank in three places along with most of the engine.
Now I have a 1970 L7 that's junk. If u do change it, buy a good one. :003:
That engine was a good runner when my wife ran it out of oil, didn't really hurt anything real bad. The crank was just out so we turned it 10/10, the bores were in real great condition so honed them to break the glaze and have 5 & 6 thousands clearance across all eight. Did the heads as it is a 72 and pre hardened seats. Came back with a 351 Boss spec cam. Have a Holley 600 going on. Not a fan of headers on street engines if you can make the stock manifolds fit. With 9:1 pistons I fell it will come in at around 250 - 270 and the 3:56 gear with the AOD give me plenty of pep. Don't need another "hot rod" as the GT500 fills that need very well.
Bill, are you doing the ranchero project? Or just bored. I saw my friend at a funeral ,the guy with the 2 door wagon on ebay, he sold it to a guy from Chicago for $10,500. Another guy who came to look at it was sorry he didn't get a shot at buying it, so he sold him his Nova for $17,000. Mark
Yes and yes. Got under it to look it over real well while making preps for the tranny to go in. Found the rear most cross member missing, the thing is really solid except the front floors and rockers. Actually putting the engine and trans in it and the 60 wagon (that job is done) to get the stuff off the shop floor. It will all have to come out again to do the finish work on the frames, suspensions and fire walls. Just wanted to de-clutter the place so when the weather gets right I can get the paint on the wife's 65 Bird and get it out of the way!
Had a good weekend of work. Got the AOD in with the cross member. Engine and transmission sit real nice, nothing hanging down below the frame. Angle is good, room for linkage and tail pipes. Just lacks finishing now......Exhaust manifolds fit nice, plenty of room. Should add, the plate on the long flat portion is actually 1" X 1/2" channel and the lower portion is the channel cut in half and turned to face out (forward). The actual rudder mount is a 60 Ford 3 speed mount modified. It is 1" narrower then the 60 so I cut it and the rubber 1".
I also used an AOD in mine and your cross member looks to be about the same way that I done mine.Looks good. Tarheel57
That Cleveland clears everything quit nicely, good job.
Got a radiator for the car. It is a Summit universal #381425 201.90 to the door. Made brackets to mount the thing. The lowers mount up with one screw, they are out of 16 ga., the upper catches the lower horn bolt on each side and it is 18 ga.. Fit real nice and looks like it will do the job as the core is almost the exact size as the stock core.
and the rest of the radiator install.....plenty of room for a fan!
Looking good Bill, that old core support looks like mine did before remaking it. Those guys out west don't know what they are missing do they?
Glen:
Oh yes we do, just not to the extent that those living East of the Rockies or where they salt the roads in the winter. That was one of the repairs I recently had to do on my 57. Obviously the rust damage was nowhere near what you need to deal with. Of course floor boards are a different matter. I think that we all have nearly the same problems with floor boards, tunnels and kick panels.
Bob
57 AGIN
Thanks Glen. That core support came out of the Kansas car I parted. Figured to repair it one day.
That car was rusted really wierd. Frame rusted in half at the middle of the door area, front fenders ate up at the head lights and bottoms, floor and quarters completely gone except over the tank. The good, this car had a perfect hood and trunk lid, perfect splash pan, perfect doors, perfect gas tank, perfect upper grill panel and grill. Still had all it's glass. A running driving car except for the rust. All the lights still worked!
Bob you must to have come to AL and took one of our parts cars back west, that looks bad! I need to figure out why I can't post pics here, but I have some over on the Y block site that shows my so called rust free west TX car. One good thing about working on a project like this is that you sure get to hone your fab and welding skills, I love it!
Glen:
I can't fly under false colors. A welding torch in my hands would be dangerous me and disastrous to the part I was trying to weld. LOL However, all our 57 Fords throughout the country and world (maybe excepting Saudi Arabia) are subject to the same floor board rust issues. Courtesy of the Ford engineers who developed the little rubber cowl drain tube passing through the passenger compartment. That little piece of rubber connector has caused all our grief and sent a good number of otherwise decent cars to the crusher. Oh well, other than that the Ford engineers did a pretty good job.
Bob
57 AGIN
...heading out to the garage to see what condition my cowl drain hose condition is in....
WHY???? I didn't think in rained in Southern California!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I do keep the car out of the rain...wipers don't work. Need to get one of those electric units.
Suppose to rain tonight/tomorrow. I live pretty close to the Auto Club Raceway in Fontana, CA...keep an eye on the NASCAR race tomorrow. If it's raining there, it's raining at my house about 7 miles to the west.
Gasman:
You are pretty close to right about the rain in Southern California. However, unless we never wash our 57's, we still have to worry about those little tubes.
Back in 2004, when the Fun Ford Weekend had a show & race out at the California Speedway in October. We had a gathering of twenty (20) 57 Fords and we were over 20% of the entire show & shine. It was the first show my just back on the road 57 was at. Unfortunately, it rained us out on day two of the weekend and I was forced to drive my 57 about 50 miles in a driving rain. Fortunately, my wipers worked as did my cowl drain tube. I was lucky, and my baby didn't shrink. LOL
Bob
57 AGIN
Quote from: robhaerr on 2012-03-24 20:42
I do keep the car out of the rain...wipers don't work. Need to get one of those electric units.
Suppose to rain tonight/tomorrow. I live pretty close to the Auto Club Raceway in Fontana, CA...keep an eye on the NASCAR race tomorrow. If it's raining there, it's raining at my house about 7 miles to the west.
I've been it some real 'trash floaters' and had more water inside than out. I changed out the OEM wiper motor for a 'cheap', aftermarket electric. It was an easy swap. It worked and parked OK but the wiper sweep was reduced and the cable/pulley system slop was still there. I modified the switch bezel and used the original knob. This time around, I am changing out the entire system and using Speciality Power Windows (SPW) wiper kit. With new transmissions, cable in tube drives, and adjustable swipe motor, this system is very smooth and quiet. A add-on intermittent upgrade is also available. I have mocked up the kit only...no windshield. I have no more water diverters, no cables and pulleys, no access panels in the firewall, and no wiper motor hanging on the firewall. All access is through the fresh air intake panel and under the dash. Unfortunately, it does require modification to the car. I would not recommend attempting an installation on a finished '57 Ford.
Ha...I don't wash my wagon with a hose. Did it once, noticed water pooled in the headlight bezels and figured it will be best to keep as dry as possible
Washing is now with wet microfiber clothes.
We hijacked this thread pretty well!
Rob
Looking good there. Thanks for the tip on the Summit radiator. That looks like it will work will for my 5.0 swap also. Love the Clevelands. I would recommend changing that harmonic balancer though. We spun a ring off of a Cleveland balancer before. Never did find it. Of course that was on a 7800 RPM drag motor but still.