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Title: some component issues resolved
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2012-06-29 15:04
I found some pieces of the puzzle this week. first being the air/heat vents. The units Ford Blue Blood suggested out of an 05-08 Mustang or f-100 wouldn't work because they were too large a diameter.I found a little shorty unit at Parr Automotive in Ok. city that had polished billet trim rings rather than plated plastic, and were not too expensive @ 30. ea.
second thing I found were some neat little windshild washer nozzles. They are actually headlight washer nozzles for a 69 Camaro rs. set of 4 for 32. Found them at classic auto parts, also in Ok. City in their chevy division
Also found a neat little steering wheel Ford Logo..I think out of a Taurus. Has little fold over tabs to secure it to the vinyl. I got to thinking this would make a neat little logo for a baseball cap....I may look for some more of these.
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: gasman826 on 2012-06-29 15:40
Its suprising how hard it is to find the right AC register.  The generic ones look so simple to install but few dashes are flat and they take up way more real estate than you would think.  Good finds.
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: Zapato on 2012-06-30 12:22
Rich are the Camaro spray heads a solid stream or fan pattern?

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Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2012-06-30 13:05
Just a round hole,so I imagine a stream. My main concern was whether or not they'd be enough of a stream, but the hole size seems to be substantial. I may hook up some tubing to that reservoir/pump i bought last week and hook up a power source and test them.
LOL...at 40 0r 50mph it probably doesn't matter whether it's a stream or fan.
The nozzle tip by the way is like a tiny heims joint...they can be swiveled to aim them
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2012-06-30 21:13
Got the nozzel checked out...as well as checking out the washer reservoir/pump I picked up at the salvage yard a few weeks ago. Definetly no problem with not enough water due to it being a headlight washer nozzel, it shot a stream clear across my garage!! Since I've got two extra to play with, I may see if I can alter the spray pattern....although I'm probably thinking too much on it...if I really need a windshield washing, it'll probably be a situation where I won't care if the water gets a little messy.
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: Ford Blue blood on 2012-07-01 07:31
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2012-06-30 21:13
it shot a stream clear across my garage!!

Rich you just have too much fun from time to time.....  :003:
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: 57 imposter on 2012-07-04 11:45
Hey Rich, Can you throw a tape on the round vents and see what the outside dia . is? I am trying to find ones small enough to go at each end of a 57 dash.  Thanks Doug Mc.
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2012-07-04 13:31
hole size and duct size are 2 1/2", outer dia. of aluminum bezel is 2.90", protrudes 1 7/8 behind dash. They also have a plainer looking, just beveled bezel avail.as well as rectangular.
www.parrautomotive.com
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: Zapato on 2012-07-04 15:13

not sure on size, but did a google image search for car ac vents and the ones used in the current min coopers look really nice. retro in style. non flap look almost a jet turbine appearance.

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Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: 57 imposter on 2012-07-04 19:12
Thanks, I'll go do some measuring. I don't think it will be easy to get anything up in the corners but we are using an extra dash shell so I'll try anything.
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: gasman826 on 2012-07-04 19:14
Getting ones to fit the outside ends of a '57 dash is tough.  I really wanted them up in the dash for a more OEM look and have cool air on my face not my elbow.
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: Zapato on 2012-07-09 01:00

went to Harbor Freight today and when i came out there was a mini cooper parked next to me. checked out the vents from outside am guessing they're 2.5/3.0" range. Do look great. wish the owner had come out.

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Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: jrw429 on 2012-07-10 17:29
Do you want something measured? I have a 2005 JCW.
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: Zapato on 2012-07-11 09:20
Sure could you measure one of the round air vents in the center of the dash. And if you can post a picture that would be great Thanks.

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Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: wildhog on 2012-07-11 09:49
Zap, All you have to do is sit up on the hood and the owner will come right out!!!!!
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: Zapato on 2012-07-12 00:07
Quote from: wildhog on 2012-07-11 09:49
Zap, All you have to do is sit up on the hood and the owner will come right out!!!!!

not a lightweight anymore, not sure the hood would hold me. will consider it next time.

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Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: Tom S on 2012-07-12 16:47
Quote from: Zapato on 2012-07-11 09:20Sure could you measure one of the round air vents in the center of the dash.
Here ya go, Zap.  2002 Mini Pooper vents ....
"...2.5 to 3 inches..."  Good guess!  :003:

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/Ranchero/MINIVENTS3.jpg)

Maybe not exact but as best I could measure the vent itself ...

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/Ranchero/MINIVENTS4.jpg)
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: jrw429 on 2012-07-12 18:50
And a photo of a 2005 vent. I've not taken it apart, but I'm guessing the silver trim ring is pretty integral to the system. Looks to me that the outside diameter is 3.75". Photos don't show it well because of parallax.

And when did it get so dirty?!?!

(http://www.puaa.net/2005MiniCooperJCW/IMG_0728.jpg)
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: Tom S on 2012-07-12 19:11
Quote from: jrw429 on 2012-07-12 18:50... I'm guessing the silver trim ring is pretty integral to the system.
I donno if it does or not but the outside vents don?t have that trim ring. Different surrounding area though.  Looks to be separate.
I bet mine is dirtier than yours!  The whole damn car! (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/lol.gif)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/Ranchero/MINIVENTS5.jpg)
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: Zapato on 2012-07-12 19:27

Thanks, now no longer have to consider any hood crushing tactics,

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Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: Tom S on 2012-07-12 19:31
I'm sure you can find something on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Dash+Air++Vent&rt=nc

These would probably be a lot easier to come up with than the Mini ones.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/04-07-FORD-F150-LARIAT-DASH-A-C-AC-AIR-VENT-CHROME-STREET-ROD-VENTS-/130727969649?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e6ffe8371&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2012-07-12 20:28
Those f100 vents on ebay are nice units...I had one in my hands at the ford dealers..unfortunatly too big for most of our needs at 4 inches. If those Mini-cooper vents are 3 3/4 on the outside, I'm guessing they'd be too big also.
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: Ford Blue blood on 2012-07-13 07:07
I'm wondering if the factory air vents from 67 - 68 Mustangs might work.  The lower half of the dash has a similar slope to the 57s?
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: cool57 on 2012-07-13 07:53
I have seen simple, clean and compact ones on aircraft supply websites. Google.
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: Zapato on 2012-07-13 10:18
found this one,small simple probably not cheap as its for that truly expensive hobby,airplanes.

              www,cozygirrrl.com/vents.htm


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Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: gasman826 on 2012-07-13 14:09
It just dawned on me that I bought a bag full of airplane air vents.  I used a couple on a project and the rest were put away somewhere.  If I can find them, I'll send a picture.
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2012-07-31 16:38
Finally got one of the lower panels recovered and a Parr Automotive vent added.In the pic the vent looks further towards the center of the car than it really is....the vent is about inline with the right side of the original glove box opening.
The second pic was my excuse for not getting a lot done on my '57 last month...a 'minor diversion'.
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: gasman826 on 2012-08-01 07:37
Mechanic and wood butcher...impressive skills!
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2012-08-01 10:49
It's amazing what you can learn to do when you can't afford to pay people to do what you want done.
Gary...got a question you may be able to answer....as I know you're using a late model steering column in your car. I had this info and lost it, think it came from AllData.com, but just spent 2 hours and can't find it again....
My Mustang steering column has a spiral wound encased electrical ribbon at the top of the steering column for all the in-the-steering-wheel-connections. The travel of this ribbon has to be centered when you do the final u-joint connections so you don't reach the end of it's travel before you reach the lock-to-lock actual steering stops.
Do you know which way the steering wheel has to be turned to reach the end of the ribbon's travel, and from there how many turns in the oposite direction to 'center' it? It will be different than the lock to lock of the steering gear.
I just got to thinking...I sure hope that Mustang ribbon's 'lock to lock' meets the requirements of the '57's R&P lock to lock....hmmm....one more mental project on my list.
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2012-08-01 12:19
Scratch that question...issue resolved. Amazingly, the ribbon has 25 turns stop to stop.
Title: Re: some component issues resolved
Post by: gasman826 on 2012-08-01 19:28
Ya'...those racks are only 3.5-4 turns lock to lock!