I just had my 57 Custom 300 weighed and what they came up with
sounds pretty light to me.
My 57 has a 390 with headers and an aluminum intake. It has no
power steering, a/c or anything. Even the heater and defroster ducting
has been removed, so as you can see, its pretty well stripped.
It does however have a full interior.
They scale said it weighs 3260 lbs. I have a hard time believing its
that light. What do you guys think?
Thanks, Roger
Awesome. 390 is not as heavy as the brand x people say it is. An aluminum intake will get it weighing pretty close to what an iron intake 351W weighs, about 535 lbs, barely more than a 350 chev. The 57 sedan body is the lighter of all the 57 bodies, so yeah, with a stripped down car, I can believe 3200-3300 lbs without driver. If my y block Custom gets anywhere near that weight, I will be thrilled. Of course, I have glass fenders, hood, trunklid, no rollup rear glass, package tray, pretty much like a business sedan, but still has the heavy bench seat, and the Y block, which weighs over 600 lbs itself. I did ditch the stock iron 3 speed for an aluminum T5 5 speed. I will be using some aluminum wheels on it, front only for the time being until I get the green for some matching ones. I have a lot of stuff to buy for my F-code 312 first, so some of the stuff has to wait.
Where did you have it weighed? Drag strip, truck stop? Landfill scales? It would be interesting to see what it would weigh on a different set of scales. If there is another in your area, try it and post the results back here. I didnt think these cars should weigh too much, maybe 3400-3500 or so. There is a bad white Custom, tubbed with an aluminum headed 521 big block, he says it weighs 3800 lbs, I just cant see it.
mine tipped the scales at Columbus at 3870 with me in it so that makes it a little over 3500 without me.
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Chero69gt:
I had my Custom 300, Tudor with a 351 W aluminum heads & intake manifold, Borg-WarnerT-10 transmission, weighed at the drag strip. Mine is fully upholstered with Dyno Mat sound deadner, so it isn't stripped down at all for racing. It weighed in at 3700 lbs., without me in it.
Bob
57 AGIN
57AGIN,
What headers, if any, did you use on that 351 w?
Thanks,
Tim :unitedstates:
57 Ford Custom:
Dougs tri-Y originally designed for a 65 Fairlane,
Bob
57 AGIN
Bob,
Was it a bolt on, or did you have to modify them?
Thanks,
Tim :unitedstates:
Manufacturer's shipping weight on a base model (Custom Tudor, 6 cylinder, 3 speed, delete everything) was under 3000.
With no springs, no brake drums, no steering box, no exhaust and no gas tank, business coupe rear windows, new glass, heater and ducts removed, all reduce weight.
Additions like frame reinforcement and 9" housing, bigger tires, bigger radiator, insulation, more wiring, AC, bigger battery, air bag pumps, tank and control system, fuel pump and lines, 460 with Lakewood, clutch and Tremec add a little weight even with aluminum transmission case, heads, intake, and waterpump all rolled over the scale at 3695 with a full tank (44 gals!)....without me or the wife's luggage.
The shipping weight was exaggerated for shipping purposes, less weight=less $$ to ship autos to market. I read that somewhere a while back. All the automakers did it, listed their cars at less than curb weight. Curb weight is actually closer to what it really weighs, as that is weight with a full tank, full of coolant and ready to go.
57 Ford Custom:
As I recall, I had Doug's design and build the headers in their shop, when it was located in Anaheim. They did have to modify the header nearest the steering box, but the installer said it was a minor mod only. I personally like the sound of a four into one setup, but the tri-Y is a good street type of header.
The tri-y worked and sounded great in the original Shelby GT350s.
Zap- :unitedstates:
I just thought I would let everyone know that I had my 57 weighed again,
at a different scale and came out at only 30 lbs different. Most of that can
be explained by me having more fuel in the tank this last time.
It came in at 3290 lbs. It still seems about 250 lbs less than I expected ,
but, I must have guessed high.
Roger
Thats cool to hear. I will take mine as soon as it is self-mobile and see how much difference fiberglass panels make.
My 2 dr sedan with the 427 goes 3640 with out driver.
Kind of an old post, but I just thought to check out the weight of the Lincoln Mark viii I'll be pulling my drive train out of. To compare, as posted above,the '57's weigh 3500ish...the Mark viii weighs in at a hefty 4921 lbs. I had no idea there was that much difference....kinda excites me a little...no, a bunch. The Marks were no speed demons except for top end, but they had enough giddy-up even with that 4900lbs. to make me think the stock 4.6 ain't gonna be no slouch in a '57.
A fellow street rodder put a 98 LSC and auto in his 46 Continental (3650 lbs) and it was really quick. He ran a 3:23 8", gave 25 MPG at 70 all day long.
Like Rich, I got kinda of excited about this weight post. Looking at my donor car (2004 Mach 1) sitting next to the 57, it doesn't seem possible they are about the same weight. The Mustang seems much smaller in size but recorded 3465 lbs with 100 lbs less in engine weight. The excitement factor comes in when that car was tested by Muscle Car it recorded a 4.7 0-60 time and a 13.2 @106.7 in the quarter. Now if I can only get that engine in and running!
Isn't that something!!!!!! 50 years of technology and a smaller, newer car weighs as much or more than an old car. '57s had no aluminum, very, very little plastic, and no high tensile steel (that's right no plastic trim, no aluminum moldings...everything is steel). A full frame to boot. I will give credit to late model construction when it comes to crash safety and comfort items. Late models have way too many comfort items! Power lumbar and heated seats may be one thing, but power adjustable pedals, rain sensing wipers, and hands free parking are increasing the complexity, weight, and cost of late models. Even with plastic dashes, bumper covers, Styrofoam sub bumpers and lots of aluminum, late models are weight hogs. Who needs a power butt wiper anyway!!!!!
As they say....if you are over 60 never trust a fart! So a power butt wiper might not be too bad an idea..... :003:
LOL, Bill...
"no aluminum trim"....got me to thinking about the door sill plates which are now made from aluminum, but I remember years ago pulling off the old corroded ones in pieces. Where the originals made from steel? Also I assume the side trim inside the stainless strips have always been aluminum.
The early 50's had to have been the era aluminum was just starting to be used big time for just about anything. I can remember as a very young boy listening to a conversation my dad and uncle were having about somebody somewhere having figured out how to weld aluminum.The conversation went something like..."wouldn't that be something if they could weld aluminum!! just imagine what they could do"
Rich Olds and Buick had aluminum sill plates in 1940, couldn't tell you if my 36 Chevy had them or not, the area they would have attached to was gone when I found the car.