hey Guy's
I talked to Tom S and he suggested a thread on this subject. I have a 4100 carb, I'm putting it on a 351w with a c4. My problem is the kick down, The # C6Af A is for a 66 Tbird with auto tran. My question is what was used for the kick down? Is there a part on the throttle that I don't have with mine (see Pic) ? or did they have some thing different? thanks for the help!
Thanks,
Tim :unitedstates:
The kick down for the Birds (61 - 66 I know for sure) (have a 65 under restoration right now) was done at the linkage on the back of the intake manifold. Only one link going to the carbs in those cars.
Blue blood,
Can you send a pick, or a place I could order one? Would a aftermarket brand work, if so, can you suggest one.
Thanks,
Tim :unitedstates:
I forgot to add that currently I have a cable kick down, Had a edelbrock.
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Tim :unitedstates:
Tim I will try to get a shot of the linkage and scan the tech manual diagram. This will take a couple of days.....I would recommend contacting www.lokar.com as they have the adapter for the AOD cable and that will work for your setup.
Blue Blood,
Thanks for the valued input, I emailed them this am, haven't heard back. I can wait for the pic's, cars in the garage for the winter anyway, with the engine half torn apart! LOL
Thanks,
Tim :unitedstates:
Thanks Blue blood as I am doing the same thing too.
Blue Blood,
Do you have the part # for that adapter? The response I got from Lokar tech was " we do not offer anything for your application, you will have to make your own". What kind of response is That?????
Thanks,
Tim :unitedstates:
Blue Blood,
I see on evil bay that they have a couple of ford 352 engine autolite carbs for years 65, and 66 that have a kick down, Why don't the tbird carbs?
Thanks,
Tim :unitedstates:
Haven't got the fogiest idea, just know how the Birds are set up. My 63 1/2 (many years ago) was a 4-speed car, Z motor with the 4100 on it so no kick down.
Blue Blood,
Do they reman the bird set up? or do you know the part # for the Lokar part. It is beginning to look like I may have to buy another carb just for the kick down lever.
Thanks,
Tim :unitedstates:
Not that I know of. Google Thunderbird and contact a couple of the vendors listed, I know one in OR deals with used parts and is very responsive. It will be pricey to retro fit the Bird linkage as it is a real "interesting" lash up. You should be able to fabricate a kick down bracket using dimensions off a laqter model carb. I'll try to get the info I have posted today.
I am sorry I didn't get back to you.
As stated the mid-sixties BIRD had the kick-down rod actuated off the bell-crank and did not have the kick-down lever on the carb throttle shaft.
If you previously used a LOKAR cable as a kick-down, you should be able to piece enough parts from them to mount on the 4100. Would you like me to help or is someone else helping you?
Thanks guys for all your time and effort, somewhere on this site I got hooked up with classic@championmustang.com. They specialize in the autolite carbs, and sell parts for them! :icon_biggrin: I was able to purchase the throttle assemby with the kick down for $50.00 +$5.25 S&H. :hello2: If anyone is looking for Autolite carbs, or parts, go there, great, and helpfull guys! Just like here! I can't begin to tell you how Blessed I am because of this site, and the Guy's on it! :occasion14:
Thanks,
Tim :unitedstates:
Quote from: 57 Ford Kustom on 2012-11-01 16:52
Thanks guys for all your time and effort, somewhere on this site I got hooked up with classic@championmustang.com.
........ I was able to purchase the throttle assemby with the kick down for $50.00 ........I can't begin to tell you how Blessed I am because of this site ...
You might return the help & help someone else here by putting up a direct working hot link to that kick down linkage that you bought. I saw someone else was doing the same thing you are trying to do. I found that, or at least one, 'championmustang' site but couldn't find what you bought.
A link to those Autolite carbs you saw on ebay that have a kick down would be nice too. You have me curious to see what they look like now & it might take a long time to search those out. You have already seen them so I assume you could find them again without much trouble?
Tom,
Great idea! here is a link to that carb on evil bay http://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-FORD-AUTOLITE-4100-4BBL-CARBURETOR-C6AF-F-1-08-/221147227859?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item337d66e6d3&vxp=mtr For the carburetor parts on www,championmustang.com They do not list all the parts, you must contact them and let them know what part you need.Their inventory of parts are limited to availability, not mass produced, they are all oem. This is why they do not list it.
Thanks,
Tim :unitedstates:
Quote from: 57 Ford Kustom on 2012-11-01 17:55
Tom,
Great idea! here is a link to that carb on evil bay http://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-FORD-AUTOLITE-4100-4BBL-CARBURETOR-C6AF-F-1-08-/221147227859?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item337d66e6d3&vxp=mtr
Can you be more specific with a link to at least one carb that has a pic of that linkage? There were 88 carbs there. I looked & looked thru individual ads & never did find one that had a kickdown linkage.
Tom ,
Try this one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-66-Ford-Galaxie-XL-500-352-autolite-4-barrel-carburetor-1-12-C6AF-L-/370675701624?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item564dfe5778&vxp=mtr,
Thanks,
Tim :unitedstates:
Sprink88,
Did you see the site for champion mustang? You will have to contact them for the Carb kick down, it's not listed on their web page. I got mine today, It only took them 2 days from TX to get to me in Vt. It is a great looking part, in great condition!
Thanks,
Tim :unitedstates:
What I have done on other carbs. Is drill a little hole in the top of throttle linkage. Find a small tube mash the end an drill a hole same size as in th linkage, then take a small rod that fits i the tube mash the end to bolt to a L . make a L shape of out alummun with a bracket to where it would bolt to the manifold in the back then a long tube to your kick down lever. I have made different styles to fit my motor an cars.
I saw it. I don't have my engine yet. So I may be going with a Holley. Depends on what comes with the motor