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Title: door panel
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-01-06 21:26
As promised a year ago..I'm finally getting to my passenger side door panel, and have some pics. of the progress. I ran out of vinyl, and overstretched the fabic the first time, so I've gotta make a trip to the fabric store tommorrow. First pic is of the finished drivers side you guys have seen a zillion times, but just as a reference.
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-01-06 21:30
and some more. I glued 6 layers of chipboard to get a nice solid form. The main door panel was duplicated from the original with all of the handle holes, and panel clip holes. I used 1/8 oak veneer.
after I recover what you're looking at, I'll cover the top half of the main panel then attach the lower piece from the back with wood screws. After that is done, I'll wrap the side and bottom of the lower piece around both layers. The grey vinyl I'm using was a poor choice to begin with, but was only thing available here locally. It's a top grade marine vinly (22.00 yard),but has comparitively little stretch. Knowing what I know now, I would have opted to wait till I could get to a regular upholstery supply shop and picked a vinyl with maximum stretch....as I did when I recovered the console and dash.
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-01-06 21:48
I should note..I used a remnant I had left over to stretch that piece. All vinyls stretch more in one direction that the other...often indicated on the backside of the fabric with a diamond pattern...I did not have the option of which way to run the stretchier axis because the piece I used would only cover one way. I may have to buy 2 yards of material to be able to run the stretch correctly and get a better job out of it.
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-01-07 05:54
Rich
    Those door panels look real nice and I can see that you are putting a lot of quality work into them.   How do you get the fabric to follow the contours especially the low spots?
     Keep up the good work.
Jay
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-01-07 07:39
I use contact adhesive. Rattle can stuff just doesn't hold over the long haul, especially in heat. I learned the hard way to use what the pros use ....weldwood contact adhesive. I use the stronger one made for Landau tops. Aside from being better, it's also cheaper. any of 3m or other good brands are going to be 12. up for a spray can. The last gallon of the weldwood I bought while I was in Poenix costs about 22.00. Sprays real well with a cheap HF gun if you thin it just a tad with acetone. I keep a little jar of it handy to use with a brush when I need to do a small area.For example, when I did the first layer of chipboard, I only wanted the chipboard to stick to the panel for about 3/4 of an inch above the carpet panel, so rather than spraying I just masked off and brushed that area rather than spraying it.
On this part I had sprayed all of the contact artea, which was a mistake. when I redo it, I'll avoid adhesive where it isn't needed, allowing for easier repositioning without overstretching when needed.
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: geraldchainsaw on 2013-01-07 08:17
u sure do some nice work,   jerry
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: sprink88 on 2013-01-07 16:40
That looks beautiful!
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: 57 Ford Kustom on 2013-01-07 17:58
I think you missed your calling Rich!! Beautiful work, at what address do I send My panels to? :003:
Thanks for letting us see them.
Tim :unitedstates:
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: Re$urrected57 on 2013-01-07 18:34
Like always, Rich you have some serious skills my friend.  I'm with Tim, where do I send my panels.  Great work!!!
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: 57dohc on 2013-01-07 21:45
Rich, I too am impressed with your work.  I am also envious of how far along your car is.  I know you have the engine and drive train yet to get going, but with that done you should be almost ready to go.
I am also impressed by the members of this forumn and how much of their own work they do.  In  the previous clubs I belong to (Mustang and Crown victoria clubs) it was rare for anyone to do their own body work, let alone upholstery work.  An inspiration to say the least.!
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-01-08 08:42
Thanks a ton guys...very encouraging remarks. I've got a few more progress pics to post..but I need to spend a few hours glued to an auction site, so I'll get the pics on later. I was able to get all of the wrinkles out that were giving me fits the other night. I guess sometimes you just need to walk away and come back later. The funny part was, I had already gone to the fabric store and picked up another couple yards of fabric, and started to remove what I had done, then deceided to give it one last shot and REALLY tug on the fabic with canvas pliers. 5 minutes later it was all restapled with no wrinkles.
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: Zapato on 2013-01-08 13:37
Rich, if you're bidding on that wonderful epay site don't waste your day away watching it use a Snipe program and sit back and relax.

Zap- :unitedstates:
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: robhaerr on 2013-01-08 13:43
Beautiful craftsmanship!
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-01-08 14:53
No ebay...live,real time auto insurance auctions. The car I've been watching hasn't been released by the insurace company yet. Since this bidding online LIVE is new to me, I wanted to watch for a while anyways. I was also worried that if the car, which is overdue for release by the insurance company,was released during todays auction, that they might slip it in even though it wasn't listed prior to the auction as one of the vehicles to be sold. It wasn't. Next auction at that site is in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-01-08 17:22
.".weldwood contact adhesive."

Rich
I need to get some of that adhesive.   It sounds real good.
Jay

Title: Re: door panel
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-01-09 16:21
Just a few more things to do and it's done. I varnished the backside of the panel to help keep it from absorbing water when and if. I will also attach a piece of plastic sheeting to the panel when everything else is done. I prefer this to attaching the plastic  to the door. As I mentioned above, I was able to get all the wrinkles out of the bottom piece, so I screwed it to the panel from the back, and finished wrapping the fabric. The reason for all the staples in the recessed areas is the vinyl strips I'm using want to go back to the rolled up shape it had for 20 years or so. I tried heat to flatten them in the past, but the heat has an adverse affect on the 'chrome'. So, the stapples just add alittle mechanical help to the contact adhesive holding it to the panel.
I obviously need to color the red vinyl with sems vinyl coating..project for later this evening. I also need to finish up the door pull. I'll post pics on that when I get it done. The door pulls go on after the door panel is attached to the door, as the screws  go thru the inside panel of the door.
Title: Re: The NO SEW door panel
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-01-09 16:24
more...The lower carpeted panel was wrapped around a piece of 1/4" aspen..glued in front, stappled in back. I trimmed all the knap off the carpet on the backside to prevent it from sticking out too far. It also was screwed to the panel from the back.
I should have titled this thread the "NO SEW door panel"

and the third pic just for laughs...I was cutting up some Bell peppers for dinner last night and ran into this one. Never seen a pepper inside a pepper before.
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: gasman826 on 2013-01-09 17:09
...and here I am wasting my time looking for a double needle sewing machine

Super job!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-01-10 11:56
Just about finished. I got the handle painted/covered. Jay was asking about how to keep the fabric in low areas...this is a perfect example. I did have to keep the vinyl warm while sticking it down...needed as much stretch as posible. when your doing something like the handle base, you have to work to fabric first into the low areas, then work out from there. The sems worked great as usual on the strips and handle. I did loosen some of the chrome trip on the strips when I pulled the masking tape off...I'm going to go back and replace them and try to figure a diferent way to mask them off.
Notice in the first picture I had to build up the handle base with bondo to clear all the stuff on the backside that would have fit into a cavity on the oem car they came from.
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-01-10 12:00
more...
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: Zapato on 2013-01-10 23:51
looks great! freaking amazing

Zap- :unitedstates:
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: Ford Blue blood on 2013-01-11 08:22
Very nice Rich!
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-01-11 10:12
I have been watching your progress.
I'm amazed at how you actually do keep the fabric attached in the lower areas.

JAY A

Title: Re: grill
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-01-17 17:37
Rich
     These are the pictures of the grill that we were talking about.
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-01-17 17:39
The other grill
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: Limey57 on 2013-01-19 14:52
Excellent work Rich, looks really nice!
Title: Re: door panel
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-01-19 15:00
Jay...a couple of days late, but thanks for posting. Very similar to mine in condition.
Thanks for the compliment Limey....they're always appreciated.