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Title: 351w Pulley spacer
Post by: 57 Ford Kustom on 2013-02-10 14:33
Guys,
   My crankshaft pulley is .20" off from lining up with the water pump pulley. I have looked and can't seem to locate one,.35 is the smallest in Jegs, and Summit. Any ideas? By the way my 351w is a 69' which means it is a 3 bolt Harmonic balancer. 
Thanks,
Tim :unitedstates:
Title: Re: 351w Pulley spacer
Post by: 57 Ford Kustom on 2013-02-11 16:19
Can I just use flat washers?
Tim :unitedstates:
Title: Re: 351w Pulley spacer
Post by: Tom S on 2013-02-12 15:29
Quote from: 57 Ford Kustom on 2013-02-11 16:19Can I just use flat washers?
Your water pump pulley is .2? behind the crankshaft pulley?  If so I guess you could try washers but I have had things wobble when trying to space them with washers.  Be pretty easy to check & see that though.
A spacer would be better.  A 1/4" aluminum spacer would only put it off .05".  Might be ok that way, might not.  Also might depend on how good your .2 measurement was.

A '69 351W?. (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/THUMB.gif)  That & the 1970 ones are the good ones. More compression.
Title: Re: 351w Pulley spacer
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-02-12 19:10
If the .20 is accurate, a 3/16 (.1875) spacer would only put it out by .0125. Twelve thousands should be ok.
Title: Re: 351w Pulley spacer
Post by: 57 Ford Kustom on 2013-02-12 19:47
Tom, and Rich,
   Thanks for the reply, I was beginning to think I was the dumbest person on this site! It is my crank pulley that is .2" behind the water pump pulley.I used a straight edge off the water pump pulley and used a micrometer to make the measurement (the one I use to reload my ammo). I could only find one on summit, and jegs that are .35", Any ideas where I could get a smaller one?
Thanks
Tim :unitedstates:
Title: Re: 351w Pulley spacer
Post by: 57 Ford Kustom on 2013-02-12 19:53
Tom,
   It is pretty sweet! My Dad had it laying around his garage. I just put a performer plus cam in it, a performer intake, and my rebuilt Auto lite 4100. I need a carb spacer though, because the linkage hits the intake.   
Title: Re: 351w Pulley spacer
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-02-12 20:02
quote:"I could only find one on summit, and jegs that are .35", Any ideas where I could get a smaller one?"
Tim..not sure what you are finding..a .35 thick spacer?
I would think with some careful layout you could make a spacer out of 3/16 aluminum plate with a minimum of hand power tools. If you have a bandsaw even easier. Lay it out with dykem, and a compass (metal point, not pencil). I've known toolmakers that could hold .001 working to layout lines on steel rule dyes. Keep a little off the lines with the saw, and file or sand to finish.
Title: Re: 351w Pulley spacer
Post by: 57 Ford Kustom on 2013-02-12 20:13
Rich,
   Yes, the ones listed on those sites are .35" that would throw me the other way .15". I had never thought about the aluminum plate. Great idea :003:!
Thanks,
Tim :unitedstates:
Title: Re: 351w Pulley spacer
Post by: Hoosier Hurricane on 2013-02-13 05:49
Tim:

If you have a lathe, or know someone who does, the .35 thick spacer could be cut down to .20 very easily.

John
Title: Re: 351w Pulley spacer
Post by: Tom S on 2013-02-13 05:55
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2013-02-12 20:02... spacer ... 3/16 aluminum plate ... Lay it out with dykem, and a compass (metal point, not pencil). I've known toolmakers that could hold .001 working to layout lines on steel rule dyes. Keep a little off the lines with the saw, and file or sand to finish.
Rich, you?re right 3/16" would work better.  But I don't have any 3/16" around. (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/lol.gif)
Since it is the crank pulley it's onna be a little harder to make than a water pump spacer because of the bigger center hole.  Probably gonna need a hole saw for that.
A much easier way to lay out the pattern is to just press a piece of paper against the mounting side of the pulley & trace the hole locations & such.  You know, rub the side of a # 2 pencil lead over the holes.  In fact, I have found that a dirty hand works just as well if not better.  : )
I think I would make the large center hole, sans pattern, in the 3/16" first.  Then tape the pattern in place over that to mark the bolt holes & diameter.  It doesn?t have to be perfect by any means, just fit & be close to center & *mostly* round.   : )  The tiny amount of weight of the 3/16" that close to the crank centerline is not going to cause an imbalance if it's not dead perfect .
Title: Re: 351w Pulley spacer
Post by: xsilencex on 2013-02-13 06:04
i have a 69 351 as well. i got a new pully set through summit from march performance. you could give either march or summit a call. I called summit because I couldn't find what I needed and they were able to help quickly.
Title: Re: 351w Pulley spacer
Post by: 57 Ford Kustom on 2013-02-13 15:44
I was fine with a edelbrock water pump that was originally on the car. But, then I purchased a Summit hi volume water pump to replace it, and that's why I ran into this problem. Thanks, I will give them a call.
Thanks,
Tim :unitedstates:
Title: Re: 351w Pulley spacer
Post by: gasman826 on 2013-02-13 16:08
I changed out my no-name remanufactured water pump for a Milodon aluminum water pump and nothing lined up correctly.  Water pump pulley shims are fairly common.  I would consider getting the .035" shim and have it surface ground to the required thickness. 

If Edelbrock won't rebuild their water pump, for a up charge, you can send your water pump to the remanufacturer and get it back.  I have done this on 'numbers matching' rebuilds.  Cardone will do it.  I think it cost an extra $10.00 to get my core back.
Title: Re: 351w Pulley spacer
Post by: 57 Ford Kustom on 2013-02-14 16:55
Thanks Guys for the responses! I think I will do that Gasman, finding a machine shop around here is scarcer than hens teeth!
Thanks,
Tim :unitedstates:
Title: Re: 351w Pulley spacer
Post by: gasman826 on 2013-02-14 17:01
At least that's one thing nice about being in the outskirts of Detroit, lots of shops with little or nothing to do.  Lots of talent but not much work.
Title: Re: 351w Pulley spacer
Post by: Tom S on 2013-02-15 00:29
Quote from: 57 Ford Kustom on 2013-02-13 15:44
I was fine with a edelbrock water pump that was originally on the car. But, then ...
"If it ain't broke ..... ":naughty: