Went to Summit to day to pickup parts for the Ranchero and walked in the door and low and behold they had this beauty on display. Lousy cell phone pics, but trust me when I say this car is absolutely beautiful. I couldn't tell what motor was in it, I was guessing a DOHC 4.6 with some fancy valve covers. They looked like Boss 429 covers but were labeled Boss 357, maybe a windsor based Boss motor I've never heard of, that's entirely possible. Had a sweet EFI Weber style induction system on it though. No idea if this is a tribute car to the movie car or an actual car from the moive, either way beautiful piece.
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I know you can get 557 stroker kits for 429-460's. I think there a 4.5 " stoke with a .060 overbore.
Man that's a nice car.....
Randy
Awesome!! Makes me want to dig out that movie and watch it again. Didn't they have a Lincoln engine in the story line for the movie?
4.5 stroke and plus .080 bore on OEM block...600 plus cubes on aftermarket blocks
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Man, mine still has a puny 460 in it.
I know you can get big numbers out of the 429/460 block. The guy I bought my Ranchero from has a 514 stuffed, and I do mean stuffed, into a Model A. Pretty wicked car to say the least. And those covers could had said Boss 557, the car was on a spinning turntable and hard to see, but I swore it said Boss 357. Any way you shake it, killer car.
Did you get any pics of the engine? That's an absolutly gorgeous car...love that shiny shiny shiny.
Sadly no, No pics of the car. They wouldn't let me into the roped off area next to the car and with it spining no way for me to get high enough to get a good look let alone good pics of the engine. I really did want a better look at it, but no dice sadly.
Thanks for the pictures. Really nice looking custom. Looks like back seat delete, but has a radio antenna. I would like to know the tire sizes.
Looks like what Norwell is hoping to create.
I'd lie the option to put steeliness on my black sedan for a change of look, but the 13" Baer rotors cut down the wheel options.
Quote from: suede57ford on 2013-08-04 23:39
Thanks for the pictures. Really nice looking custom. Looks like back seat delete, but has a radio antenna. I would like to know the tire sizes.
Looks like what Norwell is hoping to create.
I'd lie the option to put steeliness on my black sedan for a change of look, but the 13" Baer rotors cut down the wheel options.
That is Badass!....Yes Pat....... that's EXACTLY what I want..... 'cept I am using a FE..........Damn....... that made my morning.
Man.... that 57 has PERFECT STANCE!!!....ever so important.
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-05 07:00
Man.... that 57 has PERFECT STANCE!!!....ever so important.
Not to nitpick, the rake looks great to me however for my taste the altitude gives me nose bleeds. It is beautiful though maybe it will become a Summit catalog centerfold if we're lucky.
Zap- :unitedstates:
And for the record, personally really hate to pick anyones' car apart. Am sure its perfect for the owner and definitely tons better than the Thunder Road 57 ever was.
That rake levels right out when you load the Shine :003:
Wasn't the thunder road car a Fairlane?
Quote from: rmk57 on 2013-08-05 09:56
Wasn't the thunder road car a Fairlane?
Yes it was a Fairlane, the black Custom was driven by his enemy the best I remember.
I had forgotten the movie car was a Fairlane but yes, his competition drove a black Custom. I would guess now that's just some kinda Georgia bootleg moonshine car and they put out the movie poster to go with it, no idea. Next time I make a run to Melvins for parts for the Ranchero, I will ask if anyone there knows anything about the car. Given they are a fantastic supplier of early Ford parts whom I have gotten alot for the Ranchero from, I figure if anyone knows anything about that car, they would have the best chance.
Also I went to Summit to get all the parts to plumb in the 4 wheel disc brake conversion I am currently in the middle of, I have to make a few exchanges for various reasons. But when I go back sometime this week I will be bringing my camera with me and should be able to get something better than the cell phone pics I have now. I'll be sure to share with you guys when I do.
And just out of curiousity Jeff, what FE are you building for your car?? Do you have a build thread somewhere I can follow?? My cars are destined to have FE's as well, just curious what your setup is going to look like. Thanks. Jim
CableguyJJS3/
No I have no build thread as of yet...but starting in the fall..... I just sealed the deal on a 406 I have been chasing for a while....and have been collecting some FE's for the transplant.
a very good 390 GT and 1 65 plain 390 out of a 65 Galaxie.
I really want a look very similar to what you posted and this pic I grabbed off the net.
My car is a 300 custom...But I made use the reg. custom trim....not sure yet.
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Keeping it with the stock look like the photo is what I would do also if I had a Custom. If you put the FE in it those rear tires and rear U joint wont last long :003:
I wonder if the 58s used a heavier front spring on cars equipped with the FE?
Ha ha ...don't know Jim...but I will buy stock in tires and u joint ha ha
that look is my plan
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2013-08-06 07:57
Keeping it with the stock look like the photo is what I would do also if I had a Custom. If you put the FE in it those rear tires and rear U joint wont last long :003:
I wonder if the 58s used a heavier front spring on cars equipped with the FE?
They would be pretty close to the same weight
Ford Y block V8 625 (272-312 CID)
Ford FE big block 650 (332-428 CID)
Ford FE big block 670 ('59 352 CID)
With Aluminum heads and manifold around 625 for an FE
Thats interesting, I just assumed a FE would be a lot heavier then a Y, 25lbs isn't much at all.
Guys:
For authenticity I believe the car should have had a large built-in tank for "haulin or dumpin the shine," but it still looks great with the mason jars in the trunk. (LOL) Besides that, yes, it is a great looking car and makes a heck of a display. And, yes, I'm going to break out my DVD of Thunder Road and get me a fixin of the good ole South. My Southern California up bringing just doesn't do justice to what you guys back East were raised in and are able to drive your 57's in.
Bob
57 AGIN
Quote from: 57AGIN on 2013-08-06 13:36
Guys:
For authenticity I believe the car should have had a large built-in tank for "haulin or dumpin the shine," but it still looks great with the mason jars in the trunk. (LOL) Besides that, yes, it is a great looking car and makes a heck of a display. And, yes, I'm going to break out my DVD of Thunder Road and get me a fixin of the good ole South. My Southern California up bringing just doesn't do justice to what you guys back East were raised in and are able to drive your 57's in.
Bob
57 AGIN
Are you saying with all you modification you still can't lay an oil slick :003: I wanted to watch the movie again too, then realized I only have it on VHS and I don't even have a VHS player anymore :005:
hiball3985:
Now that is a sad story of technology catching up and passing us by. By the way, the only oil slick I can lay is out the Side of the Engine, Oil Pan, Transmission or Differential and I really don't want to do any of them. lol
Bob
57 AGIN
Jeff,
Definitely keep me in the loop on your build, I am very interested. I also have a Custom 300 that's getting a 406. So is the Del Rio wagon and the Ranchero I have, gonna be a matched set lol. I prefer the look of the full length stainless with the gold trim but that pic you posted is a sweet looking car as well, should look killer either way. I will probably be making my return run to Summit tomorrow or Thursday so hopefully i will have better pics of the car to post then. As for the guys that asked about springs, I hae been told to get the stance you guys hae been talking about, mid 60's FE Galaxie springs are the ones to use. But that's just hearsay at this point , even though my Custom 300 has a 390 in it already, I believe the springs are original, not entirely sure. I plan on investigating that further when the time for suspension comes closer.
Jim
I will keep you(and all) posted on the build.
I will say this here and deny it if anyone ever asks me...Somedays I want to get rid of my 32s and just concentrate on my 57...... I just love them.Saying that,I had one of my 32's longer than I have been married. ha ha ha
32's are just money pits..... like no other........... ugh.
Quote from: 57AGIN on 2013-08-06 17:46
hiball3985:
Now that is a sad story of technology catching up and passing us by. By the way, the only oil slick I can lay is out the Side of the Engine, Oil Pan, Transmission or Differential and I really don't want to do any of them. lol
Bob
57 AGIN
We sure don't want that kind of an oil slick :003:
I don't even try to keep up with technology any more, it moves way faster then I do. I'll probably die with holding the record for the last person on earth without a cell phone..
I do have a DVD player and my son has the movie on DVD so I will have to borrow it.
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2013-08-06 18:38I'll probably die with holding the record for the last person on earth without a cell phone..
Nope. Me & at least two other guys I know.
Got a combo DVD/VHS player recorder at Costco a few years ago so I could copy VHS to DVD.
Use it so seldom that I have to check the crappy damn manual every time I want to record a race.
Then it usually takes me about a half hour to get the recorder set up. >:(
Well bad news guys, I went back to Summit today, the car was gone. I asked the guy at the counter, he said the trailer came and got it yesterday. But I did find out that I was wrong with my engine guess. According to the counter guy it was a big block car. A 429 based motor with the new John Kaase Boss 429 heads stroked out to 547"s. He said around 850hp and it sounded wicked when they drove it out and into the trailer. It is owned by someone local here in GA and I have an idea who, based on what he told me. If I am correct it is hiding in a private car collection of some of the most amazing Fords on the planet in west Georgia. I believe there is a museum also for viewing, but I am unsure at the moment, I need to do some more research. I'll let you know what I find out.
If I had a chance to own a car like that it would never see a trailer..
More research Jim!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bossmustang/3430380776/
I don't whether these are all his cars, but somebody has a pretty nice collection. Boss 302, Boss 429, 68 1/2 cobra- jet Mustang, 67 Shelby..........
Mmmmmm I was searching and skimming the net..I do like this......
The things dreams are made of. I could make that one just like my old black one in a heart beat :002:
Ha ha ha ...yes Jim...Daddy Like!!
I have no idea what it went for at auction.. but if it was Mecum..... it was not cheap.I just did not have any time to search details on that beauty.
Beautiful cars... I'll take all of them. Did you also notice that there were no Brand X cars in there to contaminate things?
Jeff I'll be in touch to let you know how I make out on that tire question.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2013-08-08 18:13
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bossmustang/3430380776/
I don't whether these are all his cars, but somebody has a pretty nice collection. Boss 302, Boss 429, 68 1/2 cobra- jet Mustang, 67 Shelby..........
This is at Parker's restoration shop in Columbus, OH. The 57 had a Boss 429 engine. Was for sale a while ago. I think maybe he sold it.
I love this Fairlane too...... Looks like it's ready to kick a Chevys Hiney...... hahahah
I wonder if they actually ran that on the salt and how fast it went
That yellow and black Fairlane was one of the two that Ford took to Bonnevelle and set 458 records while averageing over 108 mph for 50,000 miles. It was called the longest left turn in history!
Quote from: wildhog on 2013-08-19 19:16
That yellow and black Fairlane was one of the two that Ford took to Bonnevelle and set 458 records while averageing over 108 mph for 50,000 miles. It was called the longest left turn in history!
Thanks, I knew of the records but had never seen the cars.
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-19 17:00
I love this Fairlane too...... Looks like it's ready to kick a Chevys Hiney...... hahahah
Those are sweet words. That's what Fords are supposed to do!