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Title: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-22 16:28
The Gold cup was on last weekend.... lots of my friends went......but this made me smile.....alot.
If you don't care for this picture...Please check your pulse.


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Eat that Chevy....A L I V E .
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: rmk57 on 2013-08-22 17:59
291 cubic inches? seriously what did it really have in it?
hope he beat that two lane blacktop chev
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Zapato on 2013-08-22 18:00
its because I ''like this picture'' that my pulse needs checking, great shot love the grille among other things.

Zap- :unitedstates:
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-22 18:37
Not positive..But is is a BB Ford.....I do know that.
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-22 18:38
And yes.. he smoked that taxi cab.
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-08-22 19:15
SWEET!
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: JPotter57 on 2013-08-22 20:45
That is killer..is that the same car as that black boss 429 one, also called Bone Shaker?  Very cool car any way you slice it.
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-08-22 20:52
very very nice. I also like the grille treatment...looks like the "outer band" of the grille was trimmed down on the top and sides....interesting. Like the cutouts in the nose piece also.
Chevy? Is that what's behind the smoke? That car looks bad to the bone just sitting.
Rich
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-08-22 21:19
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-22 18:38
And yes.. he smoked that taxi cab.


Jeff
    You scared me when I  read 1-2-3- Lift Off .   I first thought that it meant lift of as in "body lift off".  Nice looking 57.
     Glad that he smoked that taxi cab, but to me they look more like that school bus out back where I keep spare parts. 
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-08-22 21:27
Just noticed the headlight treatment..
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: 57chero on 2013-08-23 00:03
Looks like a one piece fiberglass front clip with a painted on grill, very cool.
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-23 05:34
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2013-08-22 21:19

Jeff
    You scared me when I  read 1-2-3- Lift Off .   I first thought that it meant lift of as in "body lift off".  Nice looking 57.
     Glad that he smoked that taxi cab, but to me they look more like that school bus out back where I keep spare parts. 


HA HA HA...No Jay.... that's just crazy talk!
Sticking with the plan.
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-23 05:38
Quote from: JPotter57 on 2013-08-22 20:45
That is killer..is that the same car as that black boss 429 one, also called Bone Shaker?  Very cool car any way you slice it.



Not sure James..This car is called the "Boneshaker III".... so maybe this is a 3rd Gen race car...... I will call some pals and investigate further.
In the last 3-5 years.. the Northeast has become a hotbed of Nostalgia racing.From Ohio eastward has more Gasser style racing than anywhere else.
I love the car..... but a few friends asked me when I got my 57 if I was doing a race car.......I could never bring myself to cut mine up.
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-08-23 08:25
Jeff....lol....no wonder you Canadians don't have a space program...it's 3-2-1-liftoff, not 1-2-3-!
Found the Chevy..didn't see the slide bar below the photos.
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-08-23 08:31
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2013-08-23 08:25
Jeff....lol....no wonder you Canadians don't have a space program...it's 3-2-1-liftoff, not 1-2-3-!
Found the Chevy..didn't see the slide bar below the photos.
:003: :003: :003: :003: Good catch
Who made fiberglass front clips for 57's? Not that I want one, I'm not a drag racer, just curious.
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: robhaerr on 2013-08-23 08:38
Love........it!

Meanwhile...my throttle got stuck open when in Park, over-revving the motor by accident. I was messing with the throttle return spring and idle screw. The spring hung up on the screw and the engine revved very quickly, taking me surprise for a second. It was all I could to shut off the motor.

Think I bent a push rod...stupid.
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-08-23 08:51
Bent push rod or broken rocker stud usually only happens when the valve hits the piston, hope that isn't the case..
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: robhaerr on 2013-08-23 10:12
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2013-08-23 08:51
Bent push rod or broken rocker stud usually only happens when the valve hits the piston, hope that isn't the case..

Me, too...lucky I wasn't driving on the freeway.

Engine runs a bit rough like running on only 7 cylinders. No bad noises, though. Will know more after inspection in a few days when time permits.

*thread hijack over*

Rob
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-24 06:58
Hope your car is ok Rob.

Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-08-24 11:35
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-24 06:58
Hope your car is well alsook Rob.

Rob
I hope that it checks out OK also. 
Jay
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: robhaerr on 2013-08-24 19:20
Thanks for the thoughts, guys.

Will know more after my engine guru comes over to inspect Monday evening. I am not touching it until then.

I have been very nervous hoping it's not serious...ground cam lobe, valve hitting piston, you know...

I have read lots of forum threads about over-revving and what it *could* be.

Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: robhaerr on 2013-08-26 23:05
After inspection...

-compression in all cylinders good
-no broken valve springs
-no bent push rods

maybe a lifter got stuck...will check next session. Need to replace cheap intake manifold gaskets anyway that seem to be leaking a tad.
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-08-27 07:23
 :041: :041: :boobies2: :boobies2:
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-27 07:55
Emotioncons are getting more bizarre monthly... hahahaha
Good news Rob.

Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-08-27 13:49
Quote from: robhaerr on 2013-08-26 23:05
After inspection...

-compression in all cylinders good
-no broken valve springs
-no bent push rods

maybe a lifter got stuck...will check next session. Need to replace cheap intake manifold gaskets anyway that seem to be leaking a tad.
Might be a collapsed lifter. Be careful where you buy them if needed, many of the Chinese ones aren't too good.
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: robhaerr on 2013-08-27 14:59
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2013-08-27 13:49
Might be a collapsed lifter. Be careful where you buy them if needed, many of the Chinese ones aren't too good.

Thanks...that's the next thing we will check.
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Limey57 on 2013-08-27 15:04
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-22 16:28
The Gold cup was on last weekend.... lots of my friends went......but this made me smile.....alot.
If you don't care for this picture...Please check your pulse.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q7/JEFFNORWELL/WIDOW%20MAKER/DSC_3475-XL.jpg) (http://s132.photobucket.com/user/JEFFNORWELL/media/WIDOW%20MAKER/DSC_3475-XL.jpg.html)



Eat that Chevy....A L I V E .

Well that settles it, I'll print that out and put it in the frame on the wall that currently has our wedding photograph in it, I mean, come on, we've been married for 13 years, I know what she looks like by now.
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: glen b henderson on 2013-08-27 20:29
Sun Coast Racecars in FL makes a one piece frontend in addition to a full fiberglass body. Ted Eaton out in Lorena TX has one on a tube chassis. Maybe he will get caught up building engines long enough to finish it one day. It would be awesome with one of his 500 hp+ y blocks.
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-28 04:35
This one is a local car... with a full tilt front end and a Cammer...... the man that owns this has a brother who has a 57 ranchero as well with a 427 side oiler... both have been in the family since the very early sixties...I will try and get some better pics....
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: robhaerr on 2013-08-28 08:50
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-28 04:35
This one is a local car... with a full tilt front end and a Cammer...... the man that owns this has a brother who has a 57 ranchero as well with a 427 side oiler... both have been in the family since the very early sixties...I will try and get some better pics....

Oh Man...I am really missing a bundle o' snakes headers in those wheel wells!
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-28 09:26
Here are some others(and better pics!)
Although..I do love a 57 ford Gasser....custom or Fairlane....
....I would not do one..... unless I had a basket case project... I just could not start cutting up a good car......oh god..I have turned into a antique!!!!


....more.


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(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q7/JEFFNORWELL/JEFFNORWELL002/01009ChargerStevesWildRides017-vi.jpg) (http://s132.photobucket.com/user/JEFFNORWELL/media/JEFFNORWELL002/01009ChargerStevesWildRides017-vi.jpg.html)
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q7/JEFFNORWELL/JEFFNORWELL002/1957fordgasser02.jpg) (http://s132.photobucket.com/user/JEFFNORWELL/media/JEFFNORWELL002/1957fordgasser02.jpg.html)
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(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q7/JEFFNORWELL/WIDOW%20MAKER/-14661392906D5FBA5E.png) (http://s132.photobucket.com/user/JEFFNORWELL/media/WIDOW%20MAKER/-14661392906D5FBA5E.png.html)
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-28 09:28
400 horse 390.....
the Boneshaker III........
Yea....... hell yea.....


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Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Zapato on 2013-08-28 10:29
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-28 09:26

Although..I do love a 57 ford Gasser....custom or Fairlane....
....I would not do one..... unless I had a basket case project... I just could not start cutting up a good car......oh god..I have turned into a antique!!!!




Almost spewed my breakfast reading this, great to start the day with a good laugh. Thank you Jeff now known as ''Jeff the Restorer''.
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-28 20:56
Quote from: Zapato on 2013-08-28 10:29
Almost spewed my breakfast reading this, great to start the day with a good laugh. Thank you Jeff now known as ''Jeff the Restorer''.

Don't choke Pal.
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-08-28 23:47
    In my honest opinion, the Gassers are nice to look at and their owners put a lot of work into them, but.....
    I agree with Jeff and would never cut up a good car to build one unless it was a real serious basket case.
    It makes me wonder what those persons actually started with. 
Jay     
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-08-29 06:48
We all have a different dream for our 57's. Drag cars, customs, stock, etc. If I had one to spare that I could modify I would do a version of one that ran on the beaches of Daytona in 57..
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-08-29 07:29
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2013-08-28 23:47
    In my honest opinion, the Gassers are nice to look at and their owners put a lot of work into them, but.....
    I agree with Jeff and would never cut up a good car to build one unless it was a real serious basket case.
    It makes me wonder what those persons actually started with. 
Jay   
Jeff may jump in here and tell the forumn what a friend of his started with.
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-08-29 10:07
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2013-08-29 06:48
We all have a different dream for our 57's. Drag cars, customs, stock, etc.

Jim
    There is no way that I could  have said it any better than that.   
Jay
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-29 11:47
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2013-08-29 06:48
We all have a different dream for our 57's. Drag cars, customs, stock, etc. If I had one to spare that I could modify I would do a version of one that ran on the beaches of Daytona in 57..

Very well said Jim.
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-29 11:52
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2013-08-29 07:29
Jeff may jump in here and tell the forumn what a friend of his started with.


Yes Rich......
The gasser I was showing in progress on another thread..... My pal donnie.... used 2 very very ruff 57 customs.So ruff in fact... his car has a custom frame.The best of the 2 was rotted 12 inches from the floor and is ALL hand fabbed.
Quite the dedication to do this... and he has been at it for many years.....
It's what HE wanted.... and that is all that matters.

I applaud his efforts and his final outcome is nothing short of stellar.
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-08-29 12:13
Jeff...I was refering to the guy who did/is doing a car starting with a super low miles all original car. I think you have some parts for yours off the one I was thinking about.
Rich
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-30 06:37
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2013-08-29 12:13
Jeff...I was refering to the guy who did/is doing a car starting with a super low miles all original car. I think you have some parts for yours off the one I was thinking about.
Rich


Yes Rich.. you are referring to Ken Heaslip's 57..... he bought a Killer all original 11k mile 57 ........
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-30 06:52
Rich.... this the car you are referring too....

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q7/JEFFNORWELL/WIDOW%20MAKER/048.jpg) (http://s132.photobucket.com/user/JEFFNORWELL/media/WIDOW%20MAKER/048.jpg.html)
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q7/JEFFNORWELL/WIDOW%20MAKER/050.jpg) (http://s132.photobucket.com/user/JEFFNORWELL/media/WIDOW%20MAKER/050.jpg.html)
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q7/JEFFNORWELL/WIDOW%20MAKER/061.jpg) (http://s132.photobucket.com/user/JEFFNORWELL/media/WIDOW%20MAKER/061.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-08-30 07:03
Yep, thanks. Love that car...LOL ... not exactly a sleeper is it, or one that was "saved".
Gotta give some extra brownie points for the one Donnie built for the save( or saves, since he used two)
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-30 07:11
From one end of the spectrum to the other...... this is my friend,Lenny's 57... a fairlane....a fairlane Kustom........
312 car..... Has a very East feel too it...

Lenny is a great guy..... he is from the Bronx.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q7/JEFFNORWELL/WIDOW%20MAKER/Page1.jpeg) (http://s132.photobucket.com/user/JEFFNORWELL/media/WIDOW%20MAKER/Page1.jpeg.html)
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q7/JEFFNORWELL/WIDOW%20MAKER/Page2.jpeg) (http://s132.photobucket.com/user/JEFFNORWELL/media/WIDOW%20MAKER/Page2.jpeg.html)
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q7/JEFFNORWELL/WIDOW%20MAKER/Page2.jpeg) (http://s132.photobucket.com/user/JEFFNORWELL/media/WIDOW%20MAKER/Page2.jpeg.html)
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q7/JEFFNORWELL/WIDOW%20MAKER/Page3.jpeg) (http://s132.photobucket.com/user/JEFFNORWELL/media/WIDOW%20MAKER/Page3.jpeg.html)
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Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-30 07:17
My speed and taste is still around this flavour.....
BUT I LOVE ALL 57 Fords...every make and model..... yes siree Bob.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q7/JEFFNORWELL/JEFFNORWELL003/Pagew1.jpeg) (http://s132.photobucket.com/user/JEFFNORWELL/media/JEFFNORWELL003/Pagew1.jpeg.html)
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q7/JEFFNORWELL/JEFFNORWELL003/Pagew2.jpeg) (http://s132.photobucket.com/user/JEFFNORWELL/media/JEFFNORWELL003/Pagew2.jpeg.html)




These were taken at Syracuse... no idea who the owner is.
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-08-30 07:50
It's amazing how one's tastes can almost unawaringly evolve. When I bought my '57, because my wife and I wanted a '50's type cruiser,what I had in my head wasn't too far from the Fairlane pics. Thanks for posting. That Chevvy grille sure works great in that style build. And, I still like that look, btw. Brings back memories.... maybe because it's a "back east look" as you mentioned.
Rich
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-08-30 13:14
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-30 07:17
My speed and taste is still around this flavour.....
BUT I LOVE ALL 57 Fords...every make and model..... yes siree Bob.

These were taken at Syracuse... no idea who the owner is.
I'm with you on that one Jeff
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: robhaerr on 2013-08-31 10:19
Love those!

Here is my over-revved engine update...
Problem solved...runnin' good. Prof Steve Toothaker-meister (my engine buddy from the Project 302 videos)decided we should look in the distributor...bingo. Over-revving made the distributor dizzy.
Still had to take the long route by checking the bottom-end and valve train to be sure. Valve train back together, turn the key, vacuum good...the Toothman rocketh. Whew.

Moral of the story...
Check your throttle return spring for possible hang-ups.
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-08-31 11:38
That's real good news  :001: Checking the bottom end and valve train is smart, better safe then sorry. Out of curiosity what went south in the dizzy?
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: robhaerr on 2013-08-31 15:10
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2013-08-31 11:38
That's real good news  :001: Checking the bottom end and valve train is smart, better safe then sorry. Out of curiosity what went south in the dizzy?

The distributor is a MSD Ready-to-Run. It has spacers under the changeable springs that sit on top of the "plates". For some reason...either done at the assembly plant or Steve accidentally did this after changing the advance springs...the little spacers were UNDER the plates, causing them to hang up on each other. The over-rev really sent them into orbit, so it made the potential problem worse.

Whatever the case, we corrected after looking at the MSD instruction diagrams and it is running mucho better.

It's the little things!
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-08-31 15:26
Thanks, I will make a mental note of that for future reference. You were so lucky to get away that easy.
Title: Re: 1-2-3-...LIFT-OFF!
Post by: gasman826 on 2013-09-01 10:51
Quote from: robhaerr on 2013-08-31 10:19


Moral of the story...
Check your throttle return spring for possible hang-ups.

to add to the moral:
a rev limiter is cheap compared to the cost of a modified engine.