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Title: race/shootout
Post by: wv 57s forever on 2013-08-25 16:25



       Looks like ,weather permiting there will be a shoot out this coming weekend at columbus.  I know of three,  Jim Nolan, Larry Nichoson, and myself. Are there more that are coming.

     :burnout:
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Post by: GaryI72 on 2013-08-25 19:32
Have a safe and fun time.  I'll be at the pig iron derby in NE Ohio. Real Horsepower! :-)
Post up some pics when you guys get back.  I think the weather will be in your favor.
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: wildhog on 2013-08-25 21:47
I will be there ,but  y powered this year. Tom
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Post by: JimNolan on 2013-08-26 10:02
Tom or anyone,
     Which bracket would you be in if you just wanted to run the 57 Ford bracket. The Y Block bracket is B5 and the Nostalgia bracket is B4. Where would we fit in. Jim
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Post by: Hoosier Hurricane on 2013-08-28 05:30
Jim:

In past years, bracket 3 has had the cheapest entry fee.  You can opt for that at the gate, run the '57 bracket, and skip the bracket 3 eliminations if you so desire.  You can ask at the gate if there is a separate class for Y block, and enter that if it is cheaper.  Obviously we won't let you run with the Ys with your car, but you can get through the gate claiming to be Y powered.

John
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Post by: JPotter57 on 2013-08-28 17:27
How are you feeling John?  Hope all is going well with the port and polish on the ol' ticker system...
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Post by: Hoosier Hurricane on 2013-08-29 06:47
James:

Thanks for asking.  I'm feeling fine, better than before the surgery.  Been doing the rehab exercises at the hospital rehab center.  Finished the doctor prescribed 6 weeks of exercises with the monitors stuck to my body.  I figured that is all that medicare will pay for.  Then I progressed to a self paid program without the monitors.  That only costs me $28 a month, and I can take a guest.  My wife goes along and she needs to do some exercising also, we go 3 days a week.  On the other 4 days I walk 2 1/2 miles.  On Aug 22 I was cleared to do "anything I want to".  No restrictions.  For those of you who haven't heard, on May 22 I had quadruple bypass surgery.

John
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-08-29 07:33
That's great John....sorry to hear about your need for surgery, but happy to hear your progress. Obviously your heart's always been into racing..now you can bring the rest of you along with it again!
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: F570RD on 2013-08-29 07:46
"Obviously we won't let you run with the Ys with your car, but you can get through the gate claiming to be Y powered"

  Sounds kind'a Dragracist :002:..  John,best to ya with your surgery!!
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Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-29 11:53
Please take pictures!
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: wv 57s forever on 2013-08-29 16:30



    weather channel.com say 60% chance rain.
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: JimNolan on 2013-08-29 17:16
Alan,
   I've been looking at that (rain). But, I'm packed and I'm outta here at 7am in the morning. If it rains I'm going to be pissed. I was looking to break the 13 second barrier this weekend. Now that's wishful hoping.
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: JPotter57 on 2013-08-29 20:12
Jim and Allan, every time I have been it rains.  I just dont have the money to go this year, or I would be like last year, hanging out in the rain with you guys.  I had a blast last year, and cant wait to do it again.   I just bought a bunch of new furniture for wife, and a new 18 ft trailer for me and the `57.  Broke.  Bad. 
John, I am so glad to hear you're doing better.  I have been wondering about you, take care of yourself my friend, and good luck this weekend.  You know I am always rooting for that big white Fairlane!  Love that F-code 312, man...
Ditto on Jeff's photo request, I know Tom Drummond (wildhog) usually takes a bunch, but he's bringing his Y block powered ride to play this year, so he may or may not have time to take many.  I will be sure to watch the Y block site, 4 or 5 guys always take lots of great, hi def photos, and there are a ton of `57s that run the y block class.
Steve, like John and Pegleg Rice, I too am a little dragracist, but I have been known to run with the non-Y people from time to time, lol.  In fact, I really, really wish I still had my old stroker car, would have been fun to bring it along...Maybe next year, if there is still a world to live in....

Everybody, please be careful out there, on the road and at the track.  Stay dry, keep the shiny side up and the greasy side down.  Most of all, have fun, wish I could be there.
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: JimNolan on 2013-08-29 21:01
James,
Talked to Pegleg up at Middlebury the other week and he said he was racing somewhere else. Forget where. That's a fast car he's got. I'm sort of like John. I had a heart attack in April with a couple stints and the blood thinners they have me on caused me to loose 5 pints of blood through my intestines a couple weeks ago. Now that was a sight to behold, your body only holds 8 -10 pints. They worked their asses off bringing color back to my cheeks.
I took so much grief about missing last year I'm not missing this one. I just hope the rain stays away. If I get tired I'm just going to run the 57 Ford bracket and be done with it. But, I'll be there. Jim
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: JPotter57 on 2013-08-29 23:32
I wish I could be there. ..especially since I was the one giving you grief about not being there last year.   I should have considered all of the factors that cause one to not be able to attend before I jumped the gun on that one.  For that, Jim, I am sorry.  I wish I could take it all back but I can't.   I can say that I will choose my words more wisely.  I hate to hear about your heart attack.  I am glad things worked out for you.  I hope you have a great time this weekend.   I hope the new mill gets you into the 13s.  Finally I hope the rain stays away so the Fords can play.  Have a great time man..truly wish I could be there.
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-08-30 06:30
Jim. Sounds like you had a close call. I guess the good news for you, and John, is your both here and able to talk about going to the shootout. Stuff like what you've gone thru makes you appreciate the things you enjoy in life....just take care of yourself while doing them! You guys have lots of friends here that don't want to be reading bad news.
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: JimNolan on 2013-08-30 06:56
Thanks Rich and James,
   I'll say one thing about losing 5 pints of blood over a 3 hr. period. The talk you have with Jesus is more meaningful. I begged but for one thing, not to get better but to save my soul. I figure there's enough kids at St. Jude that deserve their body's healed more than mine. I just hope the new found attitude towards how I express myself stays with me. Ain't much argument left in me right now. I especially regret saying some off the wall things to James months ago. He didn't deserve it and I'm better than that. I ask his forgiveness. Jim
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-30 07:24
You take care Jim.
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-08-30 09:37
Jim and John
     I will keep both of you in my prayers and I really mean it!!
     Happy to hear that both of you are on the road to recovery.
     May both of you  be here to see and to participate in many many more race/shootouts.
Jay 

PS 
  " I'll say one thing about losing 5 pints of blood over a 3 hr. period. The talk you have with Jesus is more meaningful. I begged but for one thing, not to get better but to save my soul.  Quote  Jim"
      Jim I get the message and know exactly what  you are saying.  Jay 
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: 57 Ford Kustom on 2013-08-31 07:01
Jim, thanks for your testimony, very inspiring. Tim
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: JimNolan on 2013-08-31 22:01
Just got back from Columbus. I beat my car to death Friday and had no idea what to dial when I got through running. I ran 5 times and my times varied from 15.7-14.6. So I dialed 14.6 in the Shootout between Nick ( Tom's buddy, forgot his last name, real nice guy), Larry Nickoson and myself. Allen White left Saturday morning ( he had water in the trunk and he was afraid they run him off the track like they did last time when water dripped from his car onto the track). Anyway, Nick and me ran the first heat and at the end of the track Nick said he let up because I was so far behind. I passed him at the finish line. For the Bragging Rights I dialed 14.6 against Larry's 12.5 second 300 and pulled a good reaction time and crossed the finish line in front of him. Problem was, I ran a 14.3 and broke out. I could see him in my mirror and I could have let up. But, to tell the truth that was the only run I'd had this weekend that it felt like I was flying. Everything was working and I didn't want to let up. Win or lose I wanted to play that run out. I'm happy, it's a heavy car and 14.3 isn't anything to be ashamed of when you use it like I do. Jim
PS:   Tom Drummand brought me another hat button with the Y-Block event printed on it. (they gave me one for Byron also). This time my name was printed on it as well. I want everyone to know how much I appreciate him including me with their group even though I don't run a Y. I had a great time. Thanks Tom and Bob Martin and the rest of the Y-Block group.
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-09-01 09:06
Sounds like a great time. I'm envious of you guys getting together like that. The racing part of it sounds like a ball, but that's something I'm not going to be doing for sure...don't even want to think about trying to learn all the engine/drivetrain stuff you need to know for it..just to old to start into something that takes another lifetime of learning. Besides I'll be estatic just to get it to the point I can turn the key and drive it down the street. But, I'd sure like to hear from somebody that's got a same weight '57 w/ basically stock 4.6 dohc drivetrain as what mine will be that has raced theirs. Just curious what kinda numbers. I'm not building a racer for sure, but it shouldn't be a slouch either.
Jim..any idea what the weight of your car is?
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: JimNolan on 2013-09-01 10:23
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2013-09-01 09:06

Jim..any idea what the weight of your car is?
Rich,
   I've never weighted my car but given the specs that you find on 57Ford.com website I figure with me in the car I'm pushing 4066 lbs down the strip. That's throwing in my weight plus 10 lbs for floor mats, 20 lb for traction bars and 25 lb for bigger tires. I figure a 312 and the 410 engine I have is about the same weight. Jim
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-09-01 12:00
That's in the neighborhood of what I was guessing. My little custom should be about 400-450 less than that with me in it. The loaded Aluminum 4.6dohc with the 4R70W tranny isn't all that much more weight than the original 6. A lot of stuff I've changed is much lighter than the oem stuff like seats,window mechanisms,steering, no back bumper, etc. etc.
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-09-01 12:25
Jim
   I'm rather  new  so  what body style do you have?   I already know what Rich has.
A picture would be nice.
Jay
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: JimNolan on 2013-09-01 13:19
Jay,
Here's a picture of it at National Trail Raceway this weekend.
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: JPotter57 on 2013-09-01 14:18
Fairlane looks good as always.  I also apologize for letting my pride get the better of me.  Lifevis too short,  you know?  I am glad you guys had a god time..I saw all the times last night on nra site....good show.
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-09-01 15:22
  Thanks Jim
   I was kinda thinking that it's a Fairlane but was not sure.  It looks absolutely beautiful.  Is there much difference in weight between a Custom and a Fairlane?
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: JimNolan on 2013-09-01 16:59
The 57Ford.com website says 100 lbs but that's unbelievable to me. The first time I can get my car weighed I'll do it.
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Post by: GaryI72 on 2013-09-01 20:08
Thank you for those paint codes, Jim.  We got it painted, but it's still looks a little rough.  That photo is our goal. Your car is a beauty.

Gary I
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Post by: JimNolan on 2013-09-01 20:15
Thanks Gary
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Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-09-02 00:07
The weights I remember hearing were more like a 3-400 lb difference. I believe the guys that reported their weighed weights (weighed weights?) on their Customs were averaging 3450 - 3600 if I remember correctly. plus 400 lbs would roughly correspond I guess to your(JIM) estimated weight. It just doesn't seem logical to me, that there'd be that much difference though. I think the Fairlanes are about 10" longer than the Customs.? I know the Fairlane back bumpers are more massive, but other than that, simplified, your just talking about a 10" crossection of sheetmetal and frame. Just doesn't seem like they'd be that much weight there.
I never have been able to locate weight or dimensions on the 1957ford.com site. There's always a blank following most of the spec callouts on my computer.
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: wildhog on 2013-09-05 19:09
Jim, The one thing I forgot to ask you,do you like the mural on the tail gate of my Ranchero?
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: JimNolan on 2013-09-05 19:47
Quote from: wildhog on 2013-09-05 19:09
Jim, The one thing I forgot to ask you,do you like the mural on the tail gate of my Ranchero?
I didn't get a good look at it. I couldn't get close enough to you. lol
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Post by: JPotter57 on 2013-09-05 20:28
Put a picture up Tom..
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Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-09-05 21:45
For gods sake.......SOMEONE PUT A DANG PICTURE!
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: JimNolan on 2013-09-06 07:07
Show them Tom, here's mine. I'm number 13. Larry Nickoson was 651.  lol  PS. Next year you'll need to put that mural on the hood of the Ranchero too so I can see it in my rear view mirror.
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Post by: glen b henderson on 2013-09-06 07:18
I saw the mural in the parking lot Tom, looks great. How does the rear of the Falcon look?
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Post by: wildhog on 2013-09-06 10:09
Glen, I think the rear end of the Falcon will always look scary to me, when I found out the steering fell off in the pits, so now I will have to try to be ahead of you. With any luck I should be able to get the supercharger working and have a better out come next year. Thanks again for the parts. Tom
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Post by: wildhog on 2013-09-06 10:26
All kidding a side the good Lord was looking out for Glen ,when he had a steering failure in the pits and not at over 100 mph on the track. That is not how you want to test your new roll bar. Glens Falcon looks great and runs good and leaves hard! As for the Ranchero I was happy how it ran, but I need a new driver, I got beat by faster cars,I got beat by slower cars, once I was passed by a track worker on a 4 wheeler!
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: JimNolan on 2013-09-06 11:14
Quote from: wildhog on 2013-09-06 10:26
once I was passed by a track worker on a 4 wheeler!
Don't worry Tom, that 4 wheeler had a modified Briggs and Stratton engine.
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Post by: glen b henderson on 2013-09-06 12:38
Steering is good to go Tom, new joint installed from NAPA. The old one looked good but after I pulled it off, I discovered the material was rotten, my guess it was original to the 63 merc that I pulled it from. The car steers easy, but with the amount of caster that I'm running, it puts a great load on it when turning. I am going to replace it with a steel u joint this winter. I know how you fill about letting a slower car beat you, Bob Martin beat me in the 2nd round by .019 thous when I went to sleep on the tree. That Ranchero looks better in person than in the pics and should really haul butt when you get the blower hooked up. See ya'll next year, good Lord willing.
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Post by: Mark on 2013-09-06 12:56
For those who have not seen Tom's tailgate----all his cars are on it----check out that lic plate
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Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-09-06 16:39
That mural looks great...and that '57 plate is unreal... D 6...easy to remember. Even the D fits right in place with his last mame.
Tom...you gotta start posting some pics. What are those tailight lenses from? They look great. I like them even more than the '63 Galaxies I've got on mine.
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Post by: wildhog on 2013-09-06 17:59
Rich, I have a ton of pictures to post, but need a new confuser, this thing will lock up when I try to post pictures. A red fluid runs all over the top of the desk and green smoke comes out the sides and then it starts to whistle!!!!
The tail lights are 63 Fairlane and the body bolts right in to the 57. The outer reflective ring kind of flotes in the dark like neon. I have these on my custom and Ranchero and even on my Ranchero 1/2 trailer.
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Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-09-06 18:48
About a year ago, things changed on the way I was able to post pics here. Thought it was my computer, but maybe not. If I try to resize a pic small enough to post here that I have found using the brouser, my computer will lock up when I try to open the pic in Paint. I have to resize the pic before I search for it with the brouser now, then there's no problem.
Title: Re: race/shootout
Post by: glen b henderson on 2013-09-08 07:37
Hey guys, I just read some sad news over on the Y Block site and thought that I would pass it along over here. Mickey Bogden, winner of the Sunday shootout, had a stroke on Monday. He is in the hospital. A address is posted over there if you want to send a card or note.