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Title: Not quite done, but almost there
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-10-23 09:58
This is the progress report on what my custom is starting to look like.  I hope to get the front gravel pan painted as soon as our crummy weather lets up a little. 
Title: Re: Not quite done, but almost there
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-10-23 10:12
Wowza! Jay!....looking great!!!
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Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-10-23 13:25
Looking great Jay. Cut your grass. LOL
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Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-10-23 15:46
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2013-10-23 13:25
Looking great Jay. Cut your grass. LOL

Rich
    Remember that rusty grill that I talked to you about that I cleaned up and clear coated?  Well that's it.
    That's the back field.  If I cut it, where will the deer sleep?
Jay
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Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-10-23 16:22
Hey Jay.. can you run that YOM Mass. plate?... it would be very easy for a man of your talents to change that "8" beside the "E" and replace it with a "C"!
Hahahahah

Title: Re: Not quite done, but almost there
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-10-23 16:39
   That's a good idea. 
I just might do that this winter in the cellar where it is warm when I don't want to make the long cold journey to the shop.
   The 816 on the end should be changed to 312.  The 8 would be easy to make into a 3.   Making the last number 6 to a 2  is going to require some thinking.  Then it has to pass the DMV inspection
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Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-10-23 17:57
In my opinion that is the best 57 I have seen in a long time. Kudos for keeping as close to original as possible.
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Post by: 4thgen57 on 2013-10-23 20:24
Looking good!
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Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-10-23 21:12
Thanks for the comments guys. 
The look without gravel pan and front bumper is starting to grow on me, but I don't plan on keeping it that way.. 
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Post by: Frankenstein57 on 2013-10-23 21:21
Nice looking sedan :003:
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Post by: JPotter57 on 2013-10-23 22:38
I love that car Jay...cant wait to see it done.
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Post by: sprink88 on 2013-10-24 17:10
That is looking sharp!
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Post by: Limey57 on 2013-10-25 03:29
Very clean!  Panel fit looks spot-on as well.  Who makes the front anti-roll bar, is it a kit or a custom made one?
Title: Re: Not quite done, but almost there
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-10-25 05:52
Gary
    That front sway bar is a bolt on kit.  The front bumper and brackets still bolt right on with no modifications. I'll have find out the name of the company that makes them and let you know.
     I bought it new w/o papers from a friend of mine that did not use it.
     If someone on the forum knows the name of that company, please let us know. There must be someone that used a kit like this on his car.
Jay 
Title: Re: Not quite done, but almost there
Post by: Ford Blue blood on 2013-10-25 07:48
Thunderbirds Southwest, out of TX.
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Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-10-25 08:07
Lots of us have used the kit that is at least very similar to Jay's. What's got me wondering if it's the Southwest thunderbirds kit is the fact that it's plated. All the kits I've seen are black painted. I've heard of a kit that has a 7/8 diameter bar, the southwest t'bird kit uses 1 1/8. Southwest t'bird has them manufactured for them, and Concourse is a distributor. You can order it from either, price is the same I believe, and both are listed in our list of suppier links. They also make a rear sway bar kit.
a pic of mine for reference, and also for reference....when both Jay and I mount our front bumper brackets, we'll have to move the plates that are bolted to the frame so the bumper brackets can be sandwiched inbetween...thus retaining the oem bumper bracket locations.
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Post by: Limey57 on 2013-10-25 11:20
Thanks for the information.

Rich, where did you get the black cover from that covers the large hole where the steering shaft passes through the bulkhead?  Like you've I've junked the original steering box set up (mine has a Wurth kit installed) and I was going to fabricate a replacement cover that also locates the lower steering column, but being lazy if there's an off-the-shelf piece of kit I'll use that instead!
Title: Re: Not quite done, but almost there
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-10-25 20:57
Bill and Rich
     Thanks for the information on the sway bars.  Now Gary in England has some names to work with.
      I miked the diameter of mine today and it is 1" thick.

      So Rich  It looks like the inner bumper brackets will go in the original place and the outer will go outside of the sway bar support.  Right?   When I do get around to hooking up the front bumper, I'll just keep all the bolts loose until I get them all started.
Jay   

       OOPS!   Rich I just re read what you wrote earlier.   That makes good sense. Now I got it.
Jay
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Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-10-25 21:43
Quote from: Limey57 on 2013-10-25 11:20
Thanks for the information.

Rich, where did you get the black cover from that covers the large hole where the steering shaft passes through the bulkhead?  Like you've I've junked the original steering box set up (mine has a Wurth kit installed) and I was going to fabricate a replacement cover that also locates the lower steering column, but being lazy if there's an off-the-shelf piece of kit I'll use that instead!
I'm always amazes at how often I unintentionally hijack someone's thread...sorry Jay
Limey. I made it....quick and easy. Here's a link to the thread with pics, including the firewall support behind it. page 2 of the thread, about 1/2 way down. If you have any questions on it, just add it to that thread so we can keep it intact.
http://57fordsforever.com/smf/index.php?topic=518.15#lastPost
As I had said in that thread, in hindsight, I would have cut the flange around that opening off and welded it shut before I painted everything up. Then just a small hole for the 3/4" shafting and a support bearing.
Rich
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Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-10-26 06:08
Don't worry Rich...   You are not hijacking my thread. 
Title: Re: Not quite done, but almost there
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-10-26 20:55
Quote from: Frankenstein57 on 2013-10-23 21:21
Nice looking sedan :003:

Mark...Do you remember this custom steering wheel?  I finally got around to installing it in my car.

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Post by: hotroddonnie on 2013-10-27 18:54
Car looks great! I didn't see it before it was painted, interior looks in great condition as well... hard to find a steering wheel that's not cracked and chipped.
Title: Re: Not quite done, but almost there
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-10-27 20:44
Quote from: hotroddonnie on 2013-10-27 18:54
Car looks great! I didn't see it before it was painted, interior looks in great condition as well... hard to find a steering wheel that's not cracked and chipped.

    hotroddonnie
  That custom wheel was  a driver quality one when I bought it with some cracks and was good enough to use as is.  I'm told that they came on the very cheap models like taxis, police cars and 70D models.
  During the winter I repaired it and kept at home, then later installed it around the time the car got painted. Jay
Title: Re: Not quite done, but almost there
Post by: Frankenstein57 on 2013-10-28 19:51
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2013-10-26 20:55
Mark...Do you remember this custom steering wheel?  I finally got around to installing it in my car.
Looks good Jay! glad you gave it a good home,    Mark
Title: Re: Not quite done, but almost there
Post by: LAUDY57 on 2013-10-29 11:47
Looking at the pics of the front sway bar mount, can someone give me the measurement from the end of the frame to the CL of the first and/or second bolt hole? The ends of my frame were trimmed so I want to see if can make a mount for that front sway bar.
Nobody answered about the rear bar -anybody have a pic?
Title: Re: Not quite done, but almost there
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-10-29 15:10
Quote from: LAUDY57 on 2013-10-29 11:47
Looking at the pics of the front sway bar mount, can someone give me the measurement from the end of the frame to the CL of the first and/or second bolt hole? The ends of my frame were trimmed so I want to see if can make a mount for that front sway bar.
Nobody answered about the rear bar -anybody have a pic?
The best I could measure was 1" to the center of the first hole and 7" to the center of the rear.. Doesn't look like you are missing much..
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Post by: LAUDY57 on 2013-10-29 18:13
Thanks Jim - I was hoping that it was that close. Now I can order the sway bars.
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Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-10-29 20:42
Lorne...mine eyeballed a little different. Look at the pic I posted earlier in this thread. My front bolt is pretty much in line with the centerline of the most forward section of the sway bar, and about 6" center to center to the back hole. The center of the forward sway bar is also pretty much in line with the leading egde of the ribbed core support brace, if you still have it.
Fortunatly for you also, the sway bar jogs inwards a few inches where it attaches to the supports. From your pic, that jog may just make it work without a major headache.
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Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-10-30 00:08
Heres were I took the measurements from if I understood the question correctly.
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Post by: LAUDY57 on 2013-10-30 00:16
Yes Rich, it was your pic I was looking at (Encode's was too far away) and could see where the bar was going by the ribbed section. It looks like I can modify the mount, I have wanted to clean up the ends of the frame because they look rough. Both you and Jim's measurements seem the same. Thanks guys!
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Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-10-30 09:03
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2013-10-30 00:08
Heres were I took the measurements from if I understood the question correctly.
I went back and reread Lorne's request. Hiball..you had it correct, I didn't. I thought he was looking for the bolt holes to where the actual sway bar was.
Title: Re: Not quite done, but almost there
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-10-30 12:47
Well here's my contribution.  I agree with Jim and Rich's measurements. They figure out the same way.   From front of frame to center of first hole is 1" and from front of frame to center of second hole is 7 ".  The only thing that I can add to this is that the front my plate is set back about 1/8" from the front of the frame. The lower plate lip is 1" wide and is drilled with two sets of mounting holes for the sway bar.  See pics.   
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Post by: LAUDY57 on 2013-10-30 14:36
Great! Thanks again guys.
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Post by: wildhog on 2013-10-30 15:39
I talked to harry last night and he said ,it was a straight forward installation, and could be done in a couple of hours and there was no welding to mount the rear sway bar. I am sure harry will add some more detail.
Title: Re: Not quite done, but almost there
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-10-30 20:18
Quote from: wildhog on 2013-10-30 15:39
I talked to harry last night and he said ,it was a straight forward installation, and could be done in a couple of hours and there was no welding to mount the rear sway bar. I am sure harry will add some more detail.

I would like to learn more about that rear sway bar.  Maybe a link to it?
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Post by: Harry on 2013-11-05 13:16
I purchased both front and rear anti sway bars from Thunderbirds Southwest.
The front bar was real easy and straight forward, about 2 hours by my self.
The rear was easy, but you need about 3 hands just to make it easier, I did it myself and it took about 3 hours and should of taken 1 hour.
Bolt on assembly, you have to either drill and tap 2 holes for the upper link mount to the frame or it would be easier to weld the to small mounts to the frame.
The kit I feel was well worth the work.
My ride is the 57 Sunliner and made it handle a lot better.Tom thanks my car rides higher than normal (which it does) but that was how we set or cars up back in the 60,s.
If you call Thunderbird Southwest they will fax you a mounting instructions, It is just a sketch but very simple.
Title: Re: Not quite done, but almost there
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-11-05 13:53
Harry
    Thanks for that information on the rear sway bar.   I'll get in touch with Thunderbird Southwest and get the scoop from them on the mounting instructions.  Sounds like it is easy enough to do.   I like the idea that it's mostly bolt in. Jay
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Post by: LAUDY57 on 2013-11-06 12:24
I've ordered the bars, I'll take pics before and after mounting on the rear one. Expensive parts to get into the north!
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Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-11-06 14:48
Dey be heby! Dat aint no litewait stuf. chipin mite ben cheepr from Concours, dey be in Nevaduh
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Post by: LAUDY57 on 2013-11-06 17:32
I just gave the parts guy the Concours part number, but you're right about the shipping, he more of less said the same thing -maybe not the same accent though! lol
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Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-11-07 07:56
Laudy----don't know how far you are from a border town.. but i use a company called Kinek.... they have holding warehouse's all along the US border with Kanuckistan,.... Very cheap and reasonable.....
They will hold anything.... full service for loading(engines cars,etc,etc......)
I have an account in Buffalo
Title: Re: Not quite done, but almost there
Post by: LAUDY57 on 2013-11-07 09:37
I used to live a couple of miles from the border, now I'm about 60 mi and a FERRY ($)away. I order stuff from a 57 guy that brings the parts across the border and delivers, even Ebay stuff from sellers that won't ship to canuckistan. Right now I'm in Phoenix so I'm going to check out the cleaner/wax stuff prices that were talked about on another thread. Thanks for the tip though!
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Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-11-07 12:16
"Right now I'm in Phoenix..." Lorne If you haven't found it already..check out www.cruisinarizona.com   their events listings are always pretty complete. This weekend, 3 local shows and one in Casa Grande ( where Desert Valley auto parts- south is) Next weekend is the big Goodguys show. Have fun....my wife and I miss Phoenix already, and we've only been home for a few weeks. Great time of the year for the Pavilion cruise! Saturday
Rich
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Post by: LAUDY57 on 2013-11-07 12:42
We're trying to fit in cruises, missed the boat drags, going to the Nascar race, enjoying the sun, parts shoppin' -too much fun! Watching  Arizona Autoscene site, got to see the Car Chaser show (we don't get Veloc tv at home), can't stay for the goodguys show. Still thinking about Ecode's plated? sway bar.
Title: Re: Not quite done, but almost there
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-11-07 13:33
Jay's is the only one I've seen plated, and he did say it was 1". Maybe another manufacturer?
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Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-11-07 19:31
Rich
     You lucky guy..   You're in Phoenix.   Think of me when you go to the Pavilion cruise. 
I sure do miss that place. 
Jay
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Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-11-08 07:35
I'm not in Phoenix...Lorne is. I was there two weeks ago. I was quoting Lorne's previous post when I said (quoted)"right now I'm in Phoenix"
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Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-11-08 10:13
 Rich
      I just saw the quote.
         It's sort of like my adopted hometown.
Jay