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Title: Question to Gasman Gary
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-12-14 17:29

"Quote Gasman826
.  The '70s pickups had braces and the bumper would flex back and wrinkle the fender.  The bumper would move back to its original position and the fender would be buckled.  Same with the '57.  My '57 did not have the common bracket.  It had a brace from the outer end of the bumper back to the rear bumper bracket bolt on the frame.  This brace kept the bumper from vibrating but not sacrifice the fender with a small bumper impact.  I have both sets of braces and am still trying to decide which to use."

Gary
     At this very moment I am at that stage where I have to make the decision of how to attach the front fender extensions and don't want to use the ones that attach to the sheet metal.
      Is there any chance that you would post a picture of the brace that goes from the outer end of the bumper back to the rear bumper bracket bolt on the frame.  I would be inclined to make a pair of them for my car.  Thank you very much.   Jay
       
Title: Re: Question to Gasman Gary
Post by: gasman826 on 2013-12-14 20:11
I found an old picture of the braces.  I'll have to do a mock up and take pictures to show installation.
Title: Re: Question to Gasman Gary
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-12-14 20:52
Mine are still attached to the bumper...I'll get a pic posted tommorrow.
Title: Re: Question to Gasman Gary
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-12-14 20:59
Gary
    That's OK.   
    You don't have to do a mock up.  Now I know what it is supposed to look like.   If you do have a  pair of them,  would you give me an overall measurement or take a picture of the edge of one or them so I can get an idea of the angle of the bends on the ends.
Thank you very much .   Jay .   
Title: Re: Question to Gasman Gary
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-12-14 21:20
Rich and Gary
     That bracket is going to be a whole lot better than using these dangerous ones that attach to the inner sheet metal.  I would hate to get a little tap and have to stretch my fender to straighten it.
      They're going to be easy to make.
       This sure is a good forum.  The guys do make a serious effort to help each other.
Thank you very much!   Jay
     
Title: Re: Question to Gasman Gary
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-12-15 08:27
I'm glad you brought up this question Jay, I don't have those either. Did they come from the factory with those or where they possibly a dealer added item after they found the damage that could be done with just the ones going to the sheet metal?
Title: Re: Question to Gasman Gary
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-12-15 11:16
well, I misspoke. I went out and looked, and I do have those brackets. GR#2!!**%
Title: Re: Question to Gasman Gary
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-12-15 12:07
Rich...   I think you meant to say that you do not have them.  Right?

Gary...  Are the ends bent in opposite directions?

Jim.....  I don't know if they are factory or not.  Most likely Gary knows and he will let us know.
            There is one thing that I do know since my bumper ends are bowed out a little.  I'm  not
            going to use the ones that I  have that connect to sheet metal.   Until I get a set
            made  like in Gary's picture, I'll use something hi tech like coat hanger connected
            to the frame       
Title: Re: Question to Gasman Gary
Post by: rmk57 on 2013-12-15 13:59
Not the best pics, I can get more if you need them. Bolts may not be the right way around.

Randy
Title: Re: Question to Gasman Gary
Post by: rmk57 on 2013-12-15 14:01
Frame bracket
Title: Re: Question to Gasman Gary
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-12-15 14:06
Jay, no, LOL,... I meant to say I have those brackets..."those" meaning the ones like you have
Rich
Title: Re: Question to Gasman Gary
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-12-15 14:58
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2013-12-15 14:06
Jay, no, LOL,... I meant to say I have those brackets..."those" meaning the ones like you have
Rich

Yes Rich
   That's what I understood you to say..   
    What we need is pictures of the ones that Gary has.  Jay
Title: Re: Question to Gasman Gary
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-12-15 15:09
Quote from: rmk57 on 2013-12-15 13:59
Not the best pics, I can get more if you need them. Bolts may not be the right way around.

Randy

Randy
    That's the same way I have my bolts facing.  I'm sure that someone will tell us if that is right or wrong.
    The thing I'm trying to do is to not use that bracket from the sheet metal to the bumper end.
     I need to make a pair like the ones Gasman posted in his picture.  His brackets do not bolt to the sheet metal panels.  They go directly from the frame to the bumper end.    Jay
Title: Re: Question to Gasman Gary
Post by: rmk57 on 2013-12-15 15:51
Now I get it! Yes the ones that bolts to the back of the valance could buckle the fender in a collision.
Now I've got to make myself a set! 1/8 x 1 1/4 flat bar should do the trick.
Title: Re: Question to Gasman Gary
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-12-15 16:22
Randy
      I heard that all it takes is  very slight tap and you can bent the arch in the front fender.  It's no picnic  straightening that section and making it look right.
      I'm not 100% sure that Ford really did make the bracket we want for the 57, but I'm not going to take a chance with the ones that I posted in my picture.   Jay.   
 
Title: Re: Question to Gasman Gary
Post by: SkylinerRon on 2013-12-15 23:27
The chance that the vibration brackets will bend a fender are remote at best.  They bolt to the valance/inner deflector. The front sheet metal is designed to flex side to side with the pivot point being under the radiator. The trucks have a different mounting system that is harder on fenders.

Ron.
Title: Re: Question to Gasman Gary
Post by: gasman826 on 2013-12-16 14:01
Dug mine out.  They are definitely home made...3/16x1-3/4 flat stock.  Thirty degree +/- bends on the ends.
Title: Re: Question to Gasman Gary
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-12-16 16:21
 Gary
     Are the bends on the end in the same direction or opposite directions?   
Thank you very much.  Jay

Title: Re: Question to Gasman Gary
Post by: gasman826 on 2013-12-17 09:24
Same
Title: Re: Question to Gasman Gary
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-12-17 09:50
Thanks Gary.