Okay, I've been driving for 28 years and 99% of my cars have been manual, so my auto trans experience is minimal. My Ranchero came with a good AOD (not AODE) transmission which I'm going to use, but I've got a couple of questions:
Do these transmissions have a neutral safety switch built in, or do I have to use the original 57 Ford one on the end of the steering column?
How do these transmissions work? Are they simply a 4 speed auto or are they a 3 speed with an overdrive 4th? If so, how does the overdrive 4th work?
Thanks
Don't know the answer to your question being an AOD but my 4R70W, which is a newer generation tranny originating with the AOD, AODE, has an external multi-function switch, one of the functions being the neutral switch. I would think your AOD also had an external switch....but just a guess.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-1974-89-Ford-Lincoln-Merkur-Neutral-Safety-Switch-/380116612212?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5880b73474&vxp=mtr
That ebay switch, btw, is nothing like the one on later trannys.
I recently installed an AOD behind a 363 Ford Crate motor in a 66 Mustang we are building for a customer. The Neutral Safety Switch was internal and the plug sticking out of the left front looked like the plug on the end of the one pictured in the ebay ad. The only place I found the matching plug was at Ron Francis Wire Works in PA.
Probably just a matter of definition here. When I think of something "internal", I'm thinking of having to get to the inside of the tranny to remove it.
I am thinking semantics on the overdrive thing. I had an AOD in the Custom I bought but I put in a 4 spd manual in short order. To me after a tad of research an AOD is a 4 spd automatic with the 4th gear being less than 1 to 1. To me a "real overdrive" implies that there is a final planetary gear set that alters the other gear ratios when it is employed. That is not the case in this case, an AOD is simply a 4 spd automatic. I don't think whoever put the AOD in my car had a clue..it would start in gear and it had an adapted manual column (guessing gears) with the clutch pedal still in the car (good for me). :003:
Thats what I like with the old style OD, gives you six gears not just in 3rd OD. I've driven sticks all my life and auto's don't appeal to me at all. Every once and a while I have to drive the wifes Fusion and I still press in the clutch that isn't there before I turn the key :003:
there is a switch above and a little back from the shift lever.this operates the neutral safety and the back up lights.
Thanks for the replies, I'd prefer to use a transmission mounted safety switch as I always think they're safer than one mounted on the column linkage due to movement of the linkage while the engine is ticking over.
Quote from: Limey57 on 2014-12-30 13:56
Thanks for the replies, I'd prefer to use a transmission mounted safety switch as I always think they're safer than one mounted on the column linkage due to movement of the linkage while the engine is ticking over.
Limey57 I hope I am not too late on this but hooking an AOD to a carbureted engine can be very tricky. The transmission is controlled by the TV cable which is just as sensitive as a 700R4. The problem is created due to the fact that the geometry of the carb. lever that is pulling the cable is not the same as the throttle body it was originally hooked to. It took 3 complete transmission rebuilds to make a believer out of one of the guys in our group. The fix is to make a template from a throttle body that goes from the center of the shaft to to mounting point of the TV cable. Then duplicate that dimension onto your carb lever and make sure you have exactly the same travel.
Quote from: Limey57 on 2014-12-30 13:56
Thanks for the replies, I'd prefer to use a transmission mounted safety switch as I always think they're safer than one mounted on the column linkage due to movement of the linkage while the engine is ticking over.
That and the 57 will only start in neutral.....
if you use the switch from the AOD it will start in park and neutral.lokar makes a TV cable kit
TV cable in a car....a really long coax? ???
TV cable? Heck, never realised that......... I heard loads of horror stories with guys using the 700R4 in hot rods trying to hook up the TV cable and untold grief/damage when done wrong. Oh well, with gas at $9 a gallon (yes, you read that right......) I'll persevere with the AOD over the easier C4/C6. Just expect lots of "how on earth" questions when I install it!
As ever, thanks for the help.
Oh, that kinda TV cable. Thank you Mr. Google.
Actually by description this one is "self adjusting"....
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/tci-370815?seid=srese1&gclid=CJX12O2misMCFQdafgod3poAdA
Can I leave the TV cable off and just shift down manually with the column shifter or is the cable required for normal driving conditions?
you need it. the TV cable will adjust hydraulic transmission pressure according to your accelerator pedal/carb linkage ( originally the FI throttle valve). take your time with the adjustment. it is not so difficult. you will need a pressure gauge and braided hose. lokar cable includes a how to sheet.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2015-01-10 15:13
you need it. the TV cable will adjust hydraulic transmission pressure according to your accelerator pedal/carb linkage ( originally the FI throttle valve). take your time with the adjustment. it is not so difficult. you will need a pressure gauge and braided hose. lokar cable includes a how to sheet.
Thanks, I've just looked at the Lokar set up and it's added to my "need" list. It would have been so much easier with a stick shift!
The AOD that was in my car had kick down throttle linkage and no cable. As far as I know it all worked ok except it started in gear and was connected to manual column shift linkage with no "PRNDL" indictator. The TV cable was news to me , I'd never heard of such. Toploader for me! :003:
I've heard the term "TV cable" frequently, but never understood why it was called that. I'm sure somebody here will explain it.
Look at the link I posted.... it is for a "Throttle Valve Cable Corrector Kit". Automotive kickdown transmission kickdown cable is the part type.
Quote from: lalessi1 on 2015-01-10 14:54
Oh, that kinda TV cable. Thank you Mr. Google.
Actually by description this one is "self adjusting"....
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/tci-370815?seid=srese1&gclid=CJX12O2misMCFQdafgod3poAdA