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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: KYBlueOval on 2015-01-07 13:07

Title: Rear Bumpers
Post by: KYBlueOval on 2015-01-07 13:07
Is a '57 Custom 300 Rear Bumper the same bumper as on a '57 Ranch Wagon and '57 Ranchero?
Thanks
Title: Re: Rear Bumpers
Post by: gasman826 on 2015-01-07 13:32
Almost.  The wagon and Ranchero bumpers have holes for the license plate light wires.
Title: Re: Rear Bumpers
Post by: djfordmanjack on 2015-01-07 16:51
I never thought about that and you're right !
Title: Re: Rear Bumpers
Post by: lalessi1 on 2015-01-07 17:38
Bumper guards are different too....right?
Title: Re: Rear Bumpers
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2015-01-07 21:15
I might be wrong, but I don't think the Rancheros and wagons had bumper guards (Limey calls them overriders..love that term) because of the tailgates. I looked at a few wagon pics and they didn't have any...but that doesn't mean they never had them.
Title: Re: Rear Bumpers
Post by: Ecode70D on 2015-01-07 21:33
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2015-01-07 21:15
I might be wrong, but I don't think the Rancheros and wagons had bumper guards (Limey calls them overriders..love that term) because of the tailgates. I looked at a few wagon pics and they didn't have any...but that doesn't mean they never had them.

   Rich...Rancheros   do have bumper guards.  I took this rear bumper off of mine before I offered it for sale. When I put it on the custom, I put SS bumper bolts in most of the holes.  It will do for now.  Sometimes we have to do whatever we have to do to get them on the road
Title: Re: Rear Bumpers
Post by: 57chero on 2015-01-07 21:48
The picture of the red and white 58 ranchero posted by Ecode70D  has different bumper guards than a 57 ranchero or wagon.
Title: Re: Rear Bumpers
Post by: hiball3985 on 2015-01-07 22:57
Ranchero bumper guards house the license plate lights.
Title: Re: Rear Bumpers
Post by: djfordmanjack on 2015-01-08 04:00
Jay, wow. you shouldn't have sold the 58. that is one good looking sports truck ! yes the 58 bumperguards look different and better in my opinion. So now you got me started again. looking for a pair ( of probably super rare) 58 'chero guards now... :005:

edit, I just realized that there's something else in the pic  :002: :003:
Title: Re: Rear Bumpers
Post by: djfordmanjack on 2015-01-08 04:12
And I just figured out I can't even use the 58 guards, because they are much closer to the center than the 57s  :005:. our license plates are just huge and they wouldn't fit in the narrow recess. My old Canadian built Courier again had different bumper guards, most probably because the one piece cargo door was hinged on top and the Ranchero/wagon tailgate goes down.
Title: Re: Rear Bumpers
Post by: KYBlueOval on 2015-01-08 04:49
Quote from: gasman826 on 2015-01-07 13:32
Almost.  The wagon and Ranchero bumpers have holes for the license plate light wires.

Thanks for the reply. Other than the hole or holes for the license plate wiring, is the Custom 300 rear Bumper the exact same size and shape as a Ranchero and Ranch Wagon ( forgetting the bumper guards ). I can drill a hole for the wiring. I don't want to buy something I can use.
Thanks
John
Title: Re: Rear Bumpers
Post by: Ecode70D on 2015-01-08 05:53
Quote from: KYBlueOval on 2015-01-08 04:49
Thanks for the reply. Other than the hole or holes for the license plate wiring, is the Custom 300 rear Bumper the exact same size and shape as a Ranchero and Ranch Wagon ( forgetting the bumper guards ). I can drill a hole for the wiring. I don't want to buy something I can use.
Thanks
John

         Yes....   It's the same size and shape and it is a bolt on. 
Title: Re: Rear Bumpers
Post by: jumping jack flash on 2015-01-08 20:26
The ranchero has a more boxy shaped bumper guard with the plate lights in the inboard side of them. They are shorter than the car 's guards. The spacing of the guards seem to be wider for the car too. The bumpers appear to be the same with different guards.
Title: Re: Rear Bumpers
Post by: KYBlueOval on 2015-01-09 05:34
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2015-01-08 05:53
         Yes....   It's the same size and shape and it is a bolt on.
Thanks for the reply. I really appreciate it
John
Title: Re: Rear Bumpers
Post by: SkylinerRon on 2015-01-10 00:02
Custom 2&4 drs use the same bumper.
Sw, Rancheros & SD  are the same (different than sedans).

Ron.
Title: Re: Rear Bumpers
Post by: KYBlueOval on 2015-01-10 04:58
Thanks for the reply.
I want to be crystal clear on my reading / understanding of your reply.
Do I read it to say that the rear bumper on  Custom 2&4 Doors are unique to those models AND different from the rear bumpers on Station Wagons, Rancheros and Sedan Deliveries?
Or are you saying that all of the above listed models use the same basic bumper? An earlier reply said they were essentially the same with the Station Wagon, Ranchero, Sedan Delivery version having an addition hole in the area of the license plate for the license plate wire to pass through.
Thanks for your interest and reply.
John
Title: Re: Rear Bumpers
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2015-01-10 08:43
I understand your confusion...all of the above posts hit some of the topics, but not all topics together in one post....so here goes...
I believe what everyone is saying is that the bumper itself (for the Customs, sw, Ranchero, and sd), prior to having the oem bumper guard holes put in it, was the same for all models.
It is the location of those holes and the addition of a hole for the license plate light that makes the sw, sd, Ranchero bumper different from the Customs. The holes for the bumper mounting brackets should be the same on all models, as well as the brackets themselves.
The bumper guards on the sw, sd, and Ranchero are different from the Customs. The Customs have the license plate light in the tailpan below the trunk. The others have the license plate light in the bumper guards.
Since you never said what you have and what you're looking at for a bumper, it's hard to say if those differences would be a problem for you.
Hope that clears it up, and I for sure hope I got it right.
Title: Re: Rear Bumpers
Post by: Ecode70D on 2015-01-10 15:51
Rich
    You hit it right on the head  and got it right.  JA
     
Title: Re: Rear Bumpers
Post by: hiball3985 on 2015-01-10 16:38
When I think about it, bumper guards were almost useless except for pushing other cars which was common back then  :003:
Title: Re: Rear Bumpers
Post by: Ecode70D on 2015-01-10 19:16
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2015-01-10 16:38
When I think about it, bumper guards were almost useless except for pushing other cars which was common back then  :003:

That's right Jim.  In those days we weren't worried about scratching the chrome and usually the problem was a dead battery.  A new battery cost about $6.00 to $10.00 in the 50s.   
Title: Re: Rear Bumpers
Post by: KYBlueOval on 2015-01-11 07:16
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2015-01-10 08:43
I understand your confusion...all of the above posts hit some of the topics, but not all topics together in one post....so here goes...
I believe what everyone is saying is that the bumper itself (for the Customs, sw, Ranchero, and sd), prior to having the oem bumper guard holes put in it, was the same for all models.
It is the location of those holes and the addition of a hole for the license plate light that makes the sw, sd, Ranchero bumper different from the Customs. The holes for the bumper mounting brackets should be the same on all models, as well as the brackets themselves.
The bumper guards on the sw, sd, and Ranchero are different from the Customs. The Customs have the license plate light in the tailpan below the trunk. The others have the license plate light in the bumper guards.
Since you never said what you have and what you're looking at for a bumper, it's hard to say if those differences would be a problem for you.
Hope that clears it up, and I for sure hope I got it right.
This EXACTLY the information I was seeking. Thank you and all the others that replied.As to what '57 I have......it is a Ranchero
Thanks
John