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Technical => Steering & Suspension => Topic started by: canadian_ranchero on 2015-01-11 01:58

Title: borgeson box install
Post by: canadian_ranchero on 2015-01-11 01:58
picture of my borgeson steering box install.doing this at the same time as my engine swap
Title: Re: borgeson box install
Post by: lalessi1 on 2015-01-11 08:04
I see the clutch rod, of particular interest to me is whether or not the clutch equalizer bar clears the steering box, from this angle it looks like it may very well clear. Keep us posted.
Title: Re: borgeson box install
Post by: canadian_ranchero on 2015-01-11 08:10
that is coming out,going with a auto trans
Title: Re: borgeson box install
Post by: lalessi1 on 2015-01-11 08:37
Whoops, I was looking at your engine swap thread and I realized that...I was coming back to clear my post. It would be a great help if you are still at the point in the picture if you could position your z-bar and take a couple of more pics. It is difficult to make an educated guess in the absence of info. I get conflicting information from different sources and I know there are a couple of guys on the forum looking for that info. Pics are worth a thousand words.
Title: Re: borgeson box install
Post by: canadian_ranchero on 2015-01-11 10:32
i will see what i can do about some pictures
Title: Re: borgeson box install
Post by: lalessi1 on 2015-01-11 11:17
 Thanks, I really appreciate it. If you can position the z-bar from the frame side bracket and hold it mostly level and at 90 degrees to the center axis of the car any pics will help give me a sense of whether mine will clear the box. Here is a pic from the only real vantage point I have on mine relative to box clearance. I have a 58 box.
Title: Re: borgeson box install
Post by: canadian_ranchero on 2015-01-11 11:54
here are some pictures.looks like arm will hit box.may be able to modify arm.
Title: Re: borgeson box install
Post by: lalessi1 on 2015-01-11 12:05
I can't thank you enough for taking the time to do that. Looks like the cearance issues are with the zbar arm on the pedal side not something I considered. Looks like a fairly simple fix. Clearance under the box looks like it might work. Thanks again.
Title: Re: borgeson box install
Post by: canadian_ranchero on 2015-01-11 12:10
the turning radius looks good.i have the granada type sindles.going to be about 3.5 turns stop to stop.i needed to do a little grinding on the frame[at the welding seam on the top] and needed to shim the lower front bolt to make the steering box fit
Title: Re: borgeson box install
Post by: VwDrvFnd on 2015-01-14 17:12
Are you going with a floor shifter or a column shift with your automatic? It really looks like there is not enough room between the firewall and the box to put any kind of column shift linkage. I am also going to do this install but i was hoping to be able to use a column shift column. doesnt look like it's going to fit.
Title: Re: borgeson box install
Post by: canadian_ranchero on 2015-01-14 19:21
i am working on a coupler set up,with a adapter to mount the coluum tube to the box.will post some pictures when i get it a little more engineered.if this works,there will be room for the stock shifter
Title: Re: borgeson box install
Post by: canadian_ranchero on 2015-01-14 23:53
here are some pictures,the safty switch will not clear[does not matter,will be on the trans].i have not fitted the center shaft yet[will be from a 59 box,so will the signal/horn switch]so far it looks like it should work.the 3rd picture shows what i made the adapter from[exhaust adapter]how much i cut off and the coupler you will need[borgeson part]as you can see the shifter is in the stock location.will keep you posted on progress   
Title: Re: borgeson box install
Post by: lalessi1 on 2015-01-15 12:13
Gary, Do you recall the inside diameter of the column extension (or the OD of the box where the column slips on). I have an Edsel column that is shorter than the 57 column and is expanded on the end already. Great pics by the way. Thanks.
Title: Re: borgeson box install
Post by: canadian_ranchero on 2015-01-15 19:07
will try to get that for you tonight
Title: Re: borgeson box install
Post by: canadian_ranchero on 2015-01-16 13:40
the borgeson box with the rubber by the input shaft removed is 1.815 in od.the 1957 coluum tube is 1.375 in id and 1.5 in od 
Title: Re: borgeson box install
Post by: lalessi1 on 2015-01-16 17:37
Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: borgeson box install
Post by: canadian_ranchero on 2015-01-17 12:06
got the center shaft modifyed[from a 59]looks like it is going to work.you need to watch the steering box/dash mount tilt angle to make sure there is no binding
Title: Re: borgeson box install
Post by: canadian_ranchero on 2015-01-21 19:14
the 59 turn signal switch is bad, looking for parts now[2 ahead 4 back] :005:
Title: Re: borgeson box install
Post by: canadian_ranchero on 2015-01-21 23:42
spent 2 hours carefully taking the switch apart,cleaned all the contacts,was able to make the switch work :003: