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Title: Looking for answers for 2 questions---9 inch rear ends and rear window stainless
Post by: KYBlueOval on 2015-08-15 18:30
I've located, in an old junk yard, several '58 and '59 Ford sedans, both 2 door and 4 door, that have their rear ends under them.
I need a 9 inch for my Ranchero, to replace the 8 inch some previous owner installed.
1) are all rear ends in '57,'58 and '59's, regardless of model, 9 inch rear ends with big bearings and are they all the same width?
2) what is the correct way to remove the stainless steel trim around the rear glass in a Ranchero, so as to not damage it. The corner pieces are of real interest.
Thanks
John
Title: Re: Looking for answers for 2 questions---9 inch rear ends and rear window stainless
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2015-08-15 19:16
I can answer some of that, John. All '57's and '58's are the same width. All are "9 inch", but neither of the cars you found will have the big bearings, at least oem. The bigger brake/bearings  came in Ranchero's and wagons. I think '59's are the same, but don't know for sure.
Title: Re: Looking for answers for 2 questions---9 inch rear ends and rear window stainless
Post by: 57chero on 2015-08-15 22:32
57-59 rear ends are the same, 57,s have a smooth pumpkin 58-59 have two dimples.  All three are 57 1/4" wide wheel mounting surface to mounting surface. As far as the ranchero rear glass you have to cut the rubber from the inside and push the glass out then remove the stainless trim.
Title: Re: Looking for answers for 2 questions---9 inch rear ends and rear window stainless
Post by: hiball3985 on 2015-08-16 07:54
Quote from: 57chero on 2015-08-15 22:32
57-59 rear ends are the same, 57,s have a smooth pumpkin 58-59 have two dimples.  All three are 57 1/4" wide wheel mounting surface to mounting surface. As far as the ranchero rear glass you have to cut the rubber from the inside and push the glass out then remove the stainless trim.
I always wondered about this. If all models are 57 1/4 from the wheel mounting surface what was different on the Rancheros/Wagons to compensate for the wider shoe/drums? Is the axle housing shorter, or different backing plates?

Also 57 pumpkins were a one year only design that had the large pinion seal and retainer.
Title: Re: Looking for answers for 2 questions---9 inch rear ends and rear window stainless
Post by: hiball3985 on 2015-08-16 08:05
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2015-08-15 19:16
I can answer some of that, John. All '57's and '58's are the same width. All are "9 inch", but neither of the cars you found will have the big bearings, at least oem. The bigger brake/bearings  came in Ranchero's and wagons. I think '59's are the same, but don't know for sure.
Everyone referrers to them as 9" but they were actually smaller, true 9" wasn't used until the early 60's cars
Title: Re: Looking for answers for 2 questions---9 inch rear ends and rear window stainless
Post by: lalessi1 on 2015-08-16 10:37
Where does the 57.25" rear end width information come from? Is it measured to the brake drum outer face or the  axle  flange face? I am trying to make all the numbers match.... rear track, wheel offset, and rear end width.... something isn't adding up.... driving me even crazier...
Title: Re: Looking for answers for 2 questions---9 inch rear ends and rear window stainless
Post by: Ford Blue blood on 2015-08-17 06:54
57.25 is alxe flange to axle flange.
Title: Re: Looking for answers for 2 questions---9 inch rear ends and rear window stainless
Post by: lalessi1 on 2015-08-17 20:31
Thanks, that makes things a lot closer, I will sleep better tonight!  :003:
Title: Re: Looking for answers for 2 questions---9 inch rear ends and rear window stainless
Post by: SkylinerRon on 2015-08-17 22:31
57-59 Wgns, Retracts, SD's and Rancheros used the big bearing/big brake rear housing.
All are the same width. Backing plates and drums are different.

Ron.