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Title: Eye candy from the Moose!!
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2016-11-05 21:00
Hamb members know how fantastically talented The Moose is. Aside from his long running contributions to the "photoshop thread to end all", last week he started a new thread asking guys what their dream build is...assuming we won the lottery and money was no object.
My reply was....
"In 1957, Ford had the 70A Custom (mine), 70BCustom 300, and 70D Business sedan. Rumors have it the missing 70C was to be a Custom Convertible....the missing link between the longer Fairlane Convertibles and the T-Bird. So, if I had another build in me and I won your lottery it would be a contemporary Custom 300 soft top powered by a 427sohc . Sure would like to see a photoshop. You did a ghost flame job for me on mine while back, Moose.
AS long as we're dreaming....Interior would have to be like in this flawless 59 Buick at the Lonestar Goodguys"
A scant few days later, this appeared on the thread.....
The second pic is the '59 Buick's interior I was refering to
Title: Re: Eye candy from the Moose!!
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2016-11-05 21:17
Yep...I know what I said about the 70C maybe being the missing convertible doesn't make sense because the "70" was the model designation for the 2 dr sedan, a  Custom convertible would have had a different number all together.
Title: Re: Eye candy from the Moose!!
Post by: Lou on 2016-11-05 22:12
I always wanted to build a 300 convertible in stock form, and tell everyone it was a prototype that never got into production.
Title: Re: Eye candy from the Moose!!
Post by: hiball3985 on 2016-11-06 07:58
I wonder if a 300 conv would need an X frame?
Title: Re: Eye candy from the Moose!!
Post by: Ford Blue blood on 2016-11-06 08:26
I would think so.  The stock frame is a "perimeter" style with only the transmission and shock cross members to keep it stiff.  Not to worry about sag, twist would be the killer.  The top on sedans and hard tops do a bunch to keep the thing from twisting.
Title: Re: Eye candy from the Moose!!
Post by: lalessi1 on 2016-11-06 09:19
I have thought about building one and decided the best way to go would be to graft a Custom rearend to a Fairlane converible. Just a mental exercise for me unless I win the lottery. Cool to see that picture!
Title: Re: Eye candy from the Moose!!
Post by: Contibob on 2016-11-06 23:06
There is a guy in the High Desert that sells 57 Ford parts and has a great collection of 57's. He actually built a 300 convertible. I have never seen it but heard he did do it.
Title: Re: Eye candy from the Moose!!
Post by: Ford Blue blood on 2016-11-07 06:37
The floor pans are different, the rear seat sits more upright in the convertibles, the top of the quarters is completely different.

If it were me (and it won't be) I would start with grafting an X member in to stiffen the chassis.  Set the body back down, cut the roof off, graft a convertible windshield frame on, and then modify the inner structure to mimic the 500s inner structure.
Title: Re: Eye candy from the Moose!!
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2016-11-07 06:45
yep, exactly...then figure out how/where to get the soft top mechanism. For some reason I'm thinking the second generation T-bird might be something to look into for some donations. Too bad they were Uni-bodies, might have had something to offer for the frame also.
Title: Re: Eye candy from the Moose!!
Post by: ragtop on 2016-11-07 20:39
www.kolars.1957fordparts.com I think its the link to see his 300 convert. has some photos and small video of the car he built
Title: Re: Eye candy from the Moose!!
Post by: Lou on 2016-11-08 13:15
The Custom and 300 have the same wheel base as a 52 thru 56 Ford, I would use a 55/56 Conv  frame, and graft in the 56 top, windshield, rear windows, top mech.to the custom body shell.
Title: Re: Eye candy from the Moose!!
Post by: ragtop on 2016-11-09 14:21
kolars car he built  with a good 300 and good convert. and 10000.00 he will build you one
Title: Re: Eye candy from the Moose!!
Post by: Lou on 2016-11-10 12:44
Would look better with custom 300 trim.
Title: Re: Eye candy from the Moose!!
Post by: rmk57 on 2016-11-10 13:07
I think Ford got it right with the Fairlane platform from the start. The longer trunk big back bumper just makes it look more luxurious. The custom convert looks bare, it really needs more bling, at least like what was said the 300 side trim.
Title: Re: Eye candy from the Moose!!
Post by: Ford Blue blood on 2016-11-11 07:26
I'm a little out there with the big back bumper.  The 58 500 bumper is much more attractive on the 57s IMHO.
Title: Re: Eye candy from the Moose!!
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2016-11-11 22:37
I'm guessing Kolar started with a Custom, not a Custom 300.

interesting... Notice he grafted the top of the convertible donor car's door to the Custom's door.

World of difference in presentations between the Photoshop Moose did and Kolar's unfinished project. I agree 100% the trim would need to be the 300, which is what I stated in my "dream build" I think Moose's rendition is a perfect adaptation of the cleaner/straighter Custom lines making it more of a sporty convertible version vs. the luxurious version we already have available. Preference of Fairlane over Custom is no different than our preferences  shown by what we already own. JMO