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Title: 1957ford.com possibilities..
Post by: JPotter57 on 2016-11-10 14:38
OK, guys, here we go.  I have decided to try and figure out a way to raise the money to acquire John's site, 1957ford.com and all of the material.  If anyone has any ideas, let me know.  It is too good a resource to just let go away.    If anyone has any ideas, let me know.  I want to do this without going to the bank and taking any loans.  I also want to do it without having to make the site a paid membership site.  If I could raise a couple grand somehow, I think I could afford to put the rest in and buy it.  The price he gave me is very fair for everything that he has.  Let me know your thoughts.  Keep in mind that once everything is said and done, it would take me some time to get it all assembled into a working and attractive website like it was before.  However, once done, it would be there, I would have backups on disk, backed up every week.  This would ensure little to no interruptions in the event of mishaps.  Note that it would be housed alongside here, this forum, and would be integrated nuch like other forums such as the Ford barn, the HAMB, etc, with static pages and dynamic forums.  I had originally intended to wind it down, pass it along to someone else, and move on into something else, but as I get older, I realize that this is my bag.  I don't think I could successfully transition into a Mustang or anything else other than another 57 Ford.  Maybe a Galaxie, but probably not.  I love these old cars, they have been part of my life for over 20 years now, and before that, a future goal to own.  Not something you can just walk away from.  So, I guess it's time to go big or go home.  Any ideas how we can scare up some green for this thing?  Let me know what you think.  JP
Title: Re: 1957ford.com possibilities..
Post by: Lou on 2016-11-10 15:31
How about a "Go fund me" page explaining it need to be saved as a research source. 
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Post by: Ray on 2016-11-10 16:20
ditto, I'm in
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Post by: gasman826 on 2016-11-10 17:49
'Go fund me' popped into my head before I finished read OP.  If that's too complicated, PayPal works for me.  Also, maybe a 15 minute consultation with an attorney.  Living Trust or LLC to financially protect your family from internet whatever.
Title: Re: 1957ford.com possibilities..
Post by: lalessi1 on 2016-11-10 18:23
I do not get "go fund me" stuff but to some of my younger friends it seems to be a viable way to raise funds. Are we talking about a one time thing here? I will contribute in anyway I can...the information on the website is too valuable to loose. Lots of ways to raise funds...sponsors? raffles? cake bakes? (Just kidding about the cake bakes.) Macs, Concours, Dennis Carpenter, LeBaron Bonney ...Lots of suppliers should have an monetary interest in maintaining the brand. Maybe an LLC is in order. This forum freely advertises and indirectly promotes suppliers...
Title: Re: 1957ford.com possibilities..
Post by: junior58 on 2016-11-10 18:44
I'm with Lynn on this one, sponsorship from the suppliers that are linked, I'm sure they could claim it back as advertising anyway, so shouldn't cost them a whole hill of beans.
Otherwise, I am happy to donate, because without the likes of both of these sites I wouldn't know half of what I now know about my car.
Good luck.
Title: Re: 1957ford.com possibilities..
Post by: Ford Blue blood on 2016-11-11 07:24
I'm in, either way.  I can support with bucks.  LLC and "go fund me" both came to mind.  The suppliers would be a worth while endeavor as well.  Let's make this happen.  James is willing to put in the work, we should be willing to support him.
Title: Re: 1957ford.com possibilities..
Post by: JPotter57 on 2016-11-11 09:58
Well, this site isnt going anywhere.  I just renewed it for 2 more years.  The content of Johns site and the domain names is what I am trying to acquire.  John had tons of literature, both in print and digital.  Plus, all of the photos, model information, color codes, vin decoding info.  Just way too much information to let fade away.  It would take me a lifetime to collect all of the information he has amassed already.  I have received a couple donations already, I had planned to use to purchase new stickers with, but I will hold off on that until I get this website deal nailed down.  Just with what I have from the last couple days, we are already up a couple hundred bucks.  I may look into the gofundme thing.  I never considered it before, as i figured it was just a way for entitled brats to get a new xbox or something.  I will check it out.
Title: Re: 1957ford.com possibilities..
Post by: gasman826 on 2016-11-11 15:35
Disseminating information, educational, of value to the community and not requiring memberships, sounds like the site is candidate for 401 or 501 non-profit status.
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Post by: Wirenut on 2016-11-11 18:51
I'm in for whatever the final decision is. Just keep us informed so if it's a go fund account or direct donation. Thank you for your commitment .
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Post by: racton on 2016-11-11 19:31
 :unitedstates:I still would like to have a 57 Ford Forever membership card to carry in my wallet.It seems to me it would be worthy of a $20 bill and soon we would have e-nuff for the site.Just thinking.Racton
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Post by: Randyh on 2016-11-11 20:44
I am willing, as I guess most of us, are to donate to help. John's site had a ton of useful information that needs preserved.

Randy 
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Post by: RICH MUISE on 2016-11-11 21:44
Me too...I'll just have to wait til next payday. I'll pledge a hundred. I'm almost embarrassed to admit it, but my log in time on this forum is now over 80 days...that figures out to be cheap entertainment....or cheap education. I've got to learn to type and read faster!
Title: Re: 1957ford.com possibilities..
Post by: Wirenut on 2016-11-12 21:12
Rich, my log in time is 8 days. I log on every night to read updates and new post. I knew you were on a lot since your always posting on your car build but 80 days might be a record. Now you've got me wondering who can top your time logged on.
Title: Re: 1957ford.com possibilities..
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2016-11-13 14:23
Any help you need James. just ask.
Title: Re: 1957ford.com possibilities..
Post by: JPotter57 on 2016-11-13 17:55
Thank you guys.  I plan to try to keep some of the original flavor of John's site.  I cant keep the complete look, as it was proprietary to the guys who built Johns site, and I am not interested in going there.  I would like to keep the basic look and feel though, colors, etc.  I believe I can make a decent looking site with some new software I have been playing with.  I dont want anything really heavy, so that it is a reasonably fast site.  I''ll just have to see as we go along, and get closer to being able to buy it.  Obviously, with the domain names, they will all point to here, so no matter which one you type in, they will all go to the same place. There are several variations of 1957ford.com, and I hope to retain all or most of them.
Title: Re: 1957ford.com possibilities..
Post by: Jerrys Kars on 2016-11-14 08:46
JP, I have John's 57 blue and white supercharged Custom. Bought it from Tom Kitchen several yrs ago. I am more than willing to contribute to the fund for the site. Just let me know how and what. John had about 100 pics of the car as the signature page on his site. I would like to have a copy of them. Willing to pay. Hope John is doing OK. I know he's been trying to sell site for some time. Hope your plan works out. Pm me.
Jerry
Title: Re: 1957ford.com possibilities..
Post by: JPotter57 on 2016-11-14 12:14
John is doing well.  He is just tired.  He has kept this site up for 20 odd years.  He is retired and ready to move on at this point.  Hopefully, we will be able to get the money to purchase the site by Christmas or New Years.  Once we have everything at my place, I can begin assembling it on our webspace, and then we can see what we have.  Once I get them, I will make available ALL photos that John has, plus several hundred that I have taken myself. 
Title: Re: 1957ford.com possibilities..
Post by: JPotter57 on 2016-11-14 12:28
https://www.gofundme.com/purchase-of-1957fordcom-website (https://www.gofundme.com/purchase-of-1957fordcom-website)

Here is the link to the GoFundMe page
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Post by: lalessi1 on 2016-11-14 13:13
Excellent job James. I will contribute and follow the page religiously.
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Post by: RICH MUISE on 2016-11-14 13:44
How are the donations made to go-fund-me? Do they accept paypal, and if they do, is there going to be a double fee charged...one by go fund me, and one by paypal?
Title: Re: 1957ford.com possibilities..
Post by: JPotter57 on 2016-11-14 13:54
I dont know, I havent made a donation to the gofundme page yet..
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Post by: junior58 on 2016-11-14 16:44
Simple to do through the gofundme page, just loaded bank card (credit or debit) and away it went. Didn't see an option for Paypal, but if that is your prefered method of payment you could possibly just do it direct to James (if he has a Paypal account, which is also simple to set up).
Title: Re: 1957ford.com possibilities..
Post by: gasman826 on 2016-11-14 21:03
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2016-11-14 13:44
How are the donations made to go-fund-me? Do they accept paypal, and if they do, is there going to be a double fee charged...one by go fund me, and one by paypal?
As I read it, gofundme gets 5% and 2.9% for credit card fee.  100% of your donation goes to the fund raiser and the giver pays the 7.9%.  I know all of you can do the math but to be clear, $100 donation to 57fordsforever means JP gets $100 and you're billed $107.90.  If you send $100 PayPal, you get billed $100 and JP gets $100 minus the PayPal charge of 2.9% and $0.30 per transaction.  So either system is fairly safe and proofed.  If you have PayPal...use PayPal.  If no PayPal or you want to stay anonymous, use gofundme.  Gofundme does keep a running total toward the goal so JP doesn't have to do the accounting or get status updates.  For that reason alone, gofundme might be the way to go.
Title: Re: 1957ford.com possibilities..
Post by: lalessi1 on 2016-11-14 21:24
Thanks gasman826 for the info. The gofundme site is up to $650 as of now. I joined the AACA today and I am going o a meeting tomorrow, seems to me a buck here and there will add up, I will try to get it out there!!!
Title: Re: 1957ford.com possibilities..
Post by: JPotter57 on 2016-11-15 08:28
I also have 225 cash that I got in the mail to add to the pot.
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Post by: hiball3985 on 2016-11-16 08:01
Bump. I think this should go to the top occasionally so no one misses it.
Title: Re: 1957ford.com possibilities..
Post by: JPotter57 on 2016-11-17 09:16
We are now halfway to our goal.  Spread the word fellows, we still have $1543 to go.  A big thanks to everyone who has donated so far. 
Title: Re: 1957ford.com possibilities..
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2016-11-23 08:22
To The Top
Payday finally got here and I sent my donation I had pledged back when this first came up.
2/3 the way there now.
Title: Re: 1957ford.com possibilities..
Post by: JPotter57 on 2016-11-23 08:28
Got 200 more in the mail yesterday, so we are getting closer still.  Cant wait to be able to cut a check to John. 
Title: Re: 1957ford.com possibilities..
Post by: 57AGIN on 2016-11-25 01:47
James:

I'm in for $100.  I think I'll do the gofundme route.

Bob
57 AGIN
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Post by: hemidave on 2016-12-06 19:35
I will do $100..what a great site !
  Whoa.. I just tried, and the site is no longer taking donations. It has been a while since I have visited here. Let me know if I can help in the future!  Dave
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Post by: hemidave on 2016-12-14 18:06
Any idea when the 1957ford.com site will be up and running again ??
Title: Re: 1957ford.com possibilities..
Post by: JPotter57 on 2016-12-15 18:55
Hopefully after the first of the year.  I am still working on getting the domain names transferred to me, so I can get that part of it squared away.  The site is basically functional on my computer, just need to update the cosmetics a little.