Is there any place that I can get a power steering control valve without having to send mine in for rebuild?? They seem to be impossible to find.
There has to be someone that has them rebuilt and for sale somewhere.
Prestige thunderbird or Concours parts probably have them in stock.
There is a Forum Member that goes by the name SkylinerRon from Maryland as I recall, that will be a vendor at The Fall Carlisle Swap Meet the end of September, he might be able to help you.
Thanks for the imformation. My nephew was hoping to use it in his wedding but I don't think that will happen since finding a control valve is so difficult.
Don't worry about it! It will stop dripping, after all the oil runs out! Think of it just like a Harley "marking it's spot".
Back in the day, they leaked when they were new. As soon as you got the control valve sealed up, then hoses started leaking. Fix the hoses, then the Ram leaked. The design was not one of the better ideas from Ford.
I'd be interested to hear if you find any "new" suppliers for the control valves. I know Concourse only had rebuild services for the entire control valve when I was putting together a system a few years ago.
If there isn't any hardware damage and you just need to try to get things sealed up, Concourse does have a control valve rebuild kit and seals available. It's pretty easy to swap out all the soft parts.
This past winter I added PS to Raunch Wagon. I found repop hoses and slave cylinder. My donor car was a '64 Galaxie (much easier to find than '57s). At that time I found no supplier for valve. I've had positive experiences with CARDONE Remanufacturer. A few times, I have sent them my core to rebuild and return. My core was returned fresh and renewed with new insides, new seats, and new end cap. So far all works fine with no leaks yet...about 4000 miles this summer. $365.00 with a year warranty.
Seems like I saw new ones for sale lately. Maybe check with the major vendors. If I see the ad
again i'll post it.
My 57 driver has been leaking for years mostly while setting. I put a flat pan under it in the garage,
it doesn't seem to leak once warmed up, probably just hard seals.
Goodluck,
Ron.
Quote from: John Palmer on 2017-09-17 14:31
Don't worry about it! It will stop dripping, after all the oil runs out! Think of it just like a Harley "marking it's spot".
Back in the day, they leaked when they were new. As soon as you got the control valve sealed up, then hoses started leaking. Fix the hoses, then the Ram leaked. The design was not one of the better ideas from Ford.
Yes it does stop leaking but it makes for some hard steering.
Quote from: gasman826 on 2017-09-17 20:53
This past winter I added PS to Raunch Wagon. I found repop hoses and slave cylinder. My donor car was a '64 Galaxie (much easier to find than '57s). At that time I found no supplier for valve. I've had positive experiences with CARDONE Remanufacturer. A few times, I have sent them my core to rebuild and return. My core was returned fresh and renewed with new insides, new seats, and new end cap. So far all works fine with no leaks yet...about 4000 miles this summer. $365.00 with a year warranty.
Im afraid I will have to send mine off for rebuild. I haven't found anyone who sells them new or rebuilt. Its hard to believe they are that scarce. My nephew wanted to use my car in his wedding but I guess that isn't going to happen.
Quote from: gasman826 on 2017-09-17 20:53
This past winter I added PS to Raunch Wagon. I found repop hoses and slave cylinder. My donor car was a '64 Galaxie (much easier to find than '57s). At that time I found no supplier for valve. I've had positive experiences with CARDONE Remanufacturer. A few times, I have sent them my core to rebuild and return. My core was returned fresh and renewed with new insides, new seats, and new end cap. So far all works fine with no leaks yet...about 4000 miles this summer. $365.00 with a year warranty.
What was the turn around time??
about 30 day turn around
Give Thunderbird Headquarters in Concord CA. a shot. I'm pretty sure the one I got several years ago was on an exchange basis. No waiting.
Jack
While it is not the best solution for the wedding, the car can still be driven with the pump belt removed so you don't burn up the pump. It just won't have power assist.
Quote from: mtwilsonboy on 2017-09-18 07:29
Im afraid I will have to send mine off for rebuild. I haven't found anyone who sells them new or rebuilt. Its hard to believe they are that scarce. My nephew wanted to use my car in his wedding but I guess that isn't going to happen.
Trying not to sound too much like a commercial for Concourse, but... Their site lists the control valves on an "exchange" basis. Maybe they have some in stock that they won't sell until you send yours in? Not sure how they'd be certain you were going to send in your old one unless they have a HUGE deposit or wait until they get the original? Might be worth a call (if you haven't already) to see how they would handle the exchange.
I know exactly what you're dealing with trying to find spare parts. Not sure how many '57s there were with PS. Apparently, all are either still installed on running cars or have been scrapped. I'm sure this is why the parts houses don't have any rebuilt units just sitting on the shelf.
Again, I'll mention that replacing the seals in the valve is very straightforward. For roughly $65+shipping you can buy the kits with all new "rubber" parts along with a new ball stud. You'll probably have more time in removing/replacing the control valve than you will for installing the kit parts. Unless there's obvious damage to the hardware/casting or there's a problem with steering performance outside of leaks, this is a quick thing to try. Worst case, you're out $65 and an hour or two. Best case you save $300 (or more) that would have gone to a rebuilder.
Having installed a Borgeson in a friends car I would do that instead of using the old system. Late model parts, easy to get hoses and the kits are complete when ordered with the pump. Brackets are perfect, fit as they should with to "tweaking" required. Steering column does require mods but still a great swap IMHO.
Quote from: Ford Blue blood on 2017-09-20 08:30
Having installed a Borgeson in a friends car I would do that instead of using the old system. Late model parts, easy to get hoses and the kits are complete when ordered with the pump. Brackets are perfect, fit as they should with to "tweaking" required. Steering column does require mods but still a great swap IMHO.
Agree, I have a brand new one still sitting in the shipping box. Just too many projects to start another one. It seems to be the best answer to the original style leaking power steering systems. Mine (the old system) leaks when sitting for more than a week, and works fine when driving.
Maybe a can of Lucas p/s stop leak as a temporary fix for the wedding.
Goodluck,
Ron.