https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3450168361692194/
Beautiful 57,
Yes it is.....strange advertisement......a half dozen pics of the hood (best left closed on this one)....no pics of the interior or underside. Not sure what's under the hood, but certainly not the d or f code I was expecting to see at that price.
Looks like a BBC. Cant find the barfing emoji.
It took a second for me to understand your comment Rich, about keeping the hood closed. I need another cup of coffee.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-01-28 09:46
Looks like a BBC. Cant find the barfing emoji.
Well...this sure shoots down the comment that it the best '57 n existence..."
Ample horsepower is provided by a GM ZZ572/620hp big block sporting a Demon 850cfm carburetor, Tru Trac serpentine drive, Flex-a-lite cross-flow radiator with dual electric fans."...cause it is not! Not with that thing between the rails!
Sorry guys. I did not notice the bowtie on the oil filler cap, or read any details until your comments. I thought it was a coyote engine.
Ill need to pay more attention, I'd have to get tarred and feathered!!!
Quote from: Wirenut on 2020-01-28 17:57
Sorry guys. I did not notice the bowtie on the oil filler cap, or read any details until your comments. I thought it was a coyote engine.
Ill need to pay more attention, I'd have to get tarred and feathered!!!
Well...I didn't look at the pics...just read the narrative. Sure isn't worth the asking price. Maybe $10k...and then I would pull that mouse out of there and put an FE in it! I just happen to have an extra block and tri-power that would fit right in there! Could repair the damage real quick!
Who ever put that in there ought to have his hand amputated! :angry7:
10k?? Honestly Hugh?? I'm gonna input my 2 cents only because I've seen it so many times on almost everything that's come up for sale..........I think your estimates on what things are worth are more realistic for the 80's. You probably can't get a bare body brought back to life for much less than 10k with today's cost of panels, paints, etc etc.......if you do the work yourself. I probably have over 2-3 k in rubber components alone! I've turned down 35k for mine without even thinking twice.
I suspect it's been a good many years since you've restored a car.
I often wonder how much guys are paying to have their stuff done........Les's interior..........Jeff's bodywork, etc etc I remember when Bob Lee (57AGIN) was having his repaired after an accident, he commented the insurance company had paid out over 75k and counting.
Certainly don't mean to offend, Hugh, I just think it's detrimental to the value of our cars to be throwing unrealistic numbers out there. :burnout:
Going to agree with you Rich. I do most all my own work, just paint on the Ranchero is already at the $2.3K level and I still have to buy the base and clear for the body. Those dollars include filler, paper and the bed liner. Rubber for the car is at$1.2K and the Ranchero doesn't have as much as passenger cars. Both the 58 Edsel and the 65 Bird have over $2K in rubber and felt. I was "lucky" as the sheet metal on the Ranchero was really pretty good, only $800 in panels plus some scrap sheet metal to make several small patches.
To this point the Ranchero has right at $10K in it including the purchase price.
The 58 Edsel has $12.5K in it, interior was nearly completed.
The 65 Bird has $11K in it, interior needed no work other then cleaning.
Can't even begin telling how many man-hours are in each, but it is my only hobby. I don't hunt, fish or chase little white balls around the pasture.
While I said what I did as a slam on the bow-tie motor I admit the body is nice. And yea it is worth more. I agree. I wouldn't pay more than that though for a car desecrated with that motor in it. Just being mean probably.
I have to agree about the cost of panels. I estimate about $10K on the body/frame and haven't bolted anything back together, not even the body shell back onto the frame.
It really is a great looking car, although I would prefer the stock tail light configuration. Likely selling at a loss for $89,000, but the Chevy engine is a major turn off for a true Ford guy. Funny how so many people say that they use a Chevy engine because "it`s cheaper", but this car was obviously built with a pretty healthy bankroll. I`m a FE guy, and yeah, they can be kinda pricey, especially with 427 and 428 engines, but I really doubt the money spent on that BB Chevy would not have covered an equally stout 460 based Ford engine. I am sure the Chevy engine will severely limit the cars appeal to many people.
That engine in there must be worth quite a few bucks to the GM guys.......should be enough to cover a healthy FE replacement, or at least a good portion of it.
If there is quality in work, a reliable runner and fun to drive; I would have no problem driving or owning it. Of course, if the price is right. I wouldn't have an issue owning a 32 Ford powered by a 53 hemi either.
Well-----I looked at the pics and read everyone's comments, so, as an oldtimer ( 81 this April ) And a 57 lover. With no argument this is a beautiful car, judgment being made without seeing the whole car, I really do not understand what market this would appeal to? Especially when the asking price is what it is. To me, the builder was not thinking too clearly about who a customer might be. I agree with the comments pertaining to the cost of parts and labor, however, if this is being done for re-sale some thought should be given to the buyer of the product, in this case a 57 Ford lover would be totally turned off when they opened the hood and saw the Bow-Tie and other items. As it sits, 40K/45K. If a true 57, 80K/90K
The builder should have could have ponied up another 4-5k for a 557 Kaase Boss 429. it would certainly have more interest in potential buyers, not to mention the added feature of leaving the hood up at a car show without the rolling eyes from the Ford faithful. Probably get closer to the asking price to boot.
Quote from: thumper on 2020-01-31 10:40
Well-----I looked at the pics and read everyone's comments, so, as an oldtimer ( 81 this April ) And a 57 lover. With no argument this is a beautiful car, judgment being made without seeing the whole car, I really do not understand what market this would appeal to? Especially when the asking price is what it is. To me, the builder was not thinking too clearly about who a customer might be. I agree with the comments pertaining to the cost of parts and labor, however, if this is being done for re-sale some thought should be given to the buyer of the product, in this case a 57 Ford lover would be totally turned off when they opened the hood and saw the Bow-Tie and other items. As it sits, 40K/45K. If a true 57, 80K/90K
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Not a fan of the car considering the engine. The car is listed on eBay with a BUNCH of pictures, it is very nice but not to my tastes. The engine is listed for $16K and I think I could build an aluminum 427 FE stroker motor for under $20K. My 462 FE cost under $10K to build.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Ford-Other-OVER-240-000-SPENT-ZZ572-4L85E-Gabe-Lopez-leather/352937866695?hash=item522cbc75c7:g:D~MAAOSwWbReImkR
I looked at all the pics on the ebay ad............wow, it sure suits my tastes. This may be the only mid-50's or newer Ford with a Chevy engine that I've ever seen that I'd have to agree with Les and wouldn't mind driving it all all. With this car I could get over my Chevy-in-a-Ford phobia in a hurry. But, I guess if I could afford it, I guess I could also afford to change it over to a 427 sohc, then it would be perfect. I don't think I could drive it as much I do mine though, so there would always be that conflict.
I'd rather have something like this. A little rough around the edges and well, who needs a hood anyways....
(https://i.imgur.com/CtjraW4.png)
Quote from: rmk57 on 2020-01-31 20:08
I'd rather have something like this. A little rough around the edges and well, who needs a hood anyways....
(https://i.imgur.com/CtjraW4.png)
Now THAT...I would roll a couple of drug dealers for their cash...and go buy it!
That SOHC 57 is cool..... but... it can only do one thing.. straight line fast and a short distance..... do I like it?... hell yea... I love it!
Otherwise its on a trailer from show to show..... no offence to anyone,... been there, and done that.I personally love driving my cars for long distance... and all my cars have been made to do so in the last 6-8 years.
The 57 with the BBC is not for me.... I have seen before and while the workmanship is outstanding...... it's like taking an easy way out.I prefer vintage stuff and while I respect the work... it should have had a Ford.But hey... just my thoughts.
It's funny... the magic line is 1955 and above for keeping the original power plant or Original Companys driveline in it.
I can certainly love a 49 shoebox with a Big Early Caddy, but a 56 Ford with a nailhead is all wrong.
But again,... just my taste... and godbless the freedom of choice.
Exactly what I was thinking yesterday, Jeff....right to the years. I have no idea why, just seems like anything after 54 should have a Ford in it. Even 52-54 is kinda iffy, but as you said, a shoebox, or older, with a Caddy, Olds, Hemi,..... is alright in my book.
you have a point there boys. Is it maybe because in 1955 the Y block really got rid of its 54 weaklings attributes and became a strong and reliable engine for the time, that did not need to be replaced that often in the early days.
It sure was nice reading about this car with the off shore engine. Problem is that I couldn't open the thread without joining something
called face book, whatever that is. I ain't joining nuthin!
Can someone post a picture of it?
Try this link...
https://www.streetdreamstexas.com/vehicles/604/1957-ford-custom-over-240-000-spent-zz572-4l85e-gabe-lopez-leather-kugel
Sale pending at $89,500
There is nothing 57 Ford about it except the sheet metal. You could put a 49 Willys Jeep body on it and call it the worlds finest Jeep. Just my opinion and I'll get out of here before the rocks get thrown
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Quote from: lalessi1 on 2020-02-16 08:57
Try this link...
https://www.streetdreamstexas.com/vehicles/604/1957-ford-custom-over-240-000-spent-zz572-4l85e-gabe-lopez-leather-kugel
Sale pending at $89,500
Thank you for posting that link. Now that I got to see it, all I can say is It's not my cup of tea.
Title claims over $240,000 on this 57, but apparently it seems using a Ford engine would cost too much! :005: :naughty:
Good point, and funny to.
Well, here's one to balance the scales a little...........one of the featured cars at the Starbird show was this icon. Body used components from 4 cars including pontiac and corvair. Front suspension Corvette, rear Jag. For drivetrain the builder used a 4.6 dohc from a Lincoln Mark VIII
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2020-02-19 01:09
Well, here's one to balance the scales a little...........one of the featured cars at the Starbird show was this icon. Body used components from 4 cars including pontiac and corvair. Front suspension Corvette, rear Jag. For drivetrain the builder used a 4.6 dohc from a Lincoln Mark VIII
I appreciate the work put into it but wouldn't stop to look at it. I understand that it is someone's idea of great, just not mine.
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Not really my cup of tea either, Just really nice to see a Ford drivetrain in a gm inspired build.
Resembles a mid 60's corvette.