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Title: Auto City radiators with FE. What hoses?
Post by: 59meteor on 2020-04-24 10:36
I am installing my new aluminum radiator from Auto City Classic, in my 59, which has a 428 FE. Both my original 332 rad, and the new one, have 2" lower hose nipples, so I assume a new stock replacement hose should work. However, the upper hose nipple on the new rad is 1 1/2" diameter, and every FE thermostat housing I have is 1 3/4". I have a new upper hose from a mid 70s FE PU truck, but it is 1 3/4" at each end. Is anybody aware of a factory FE application that has 1 3/4" at the engine side, but 1 1/2" at the rad? Or a part number of some other application that can been made to work? I do not want to use a universal ribbed flex hose, or some aftermarket chrome tubing, just  black molded rubber hoses. Lacking that, does anybody know a website that shows a list of various hoses with shapes, lengths and diameters, hopefully with photos. Just hoping somebody that has gone thru this has some thoughts. Thanks.
Title: Re: Auto City radiators with FE. What hoses?
Post by: rmk57 on 2020-04-24 14:08
  Rory, if no one can supply an application or part# Dayco has a hose dimensional chart you can fill out to help you along.

                 http://www.daycoproducts.com/online-catalog-1?part_type=10
Title: Re: Auto City radiators with FE. What hoses?
Post by: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-04-24 14:55
Dayco had a book with pictures, dimensions and inlet/outlet sizing.  A veteran Lordco parts man might still have one in their library. 
If you are stuck let me know and I will go see if I can find mine.
Also found the push rods from my engine, you want them?
Terry
Title: Re: Auto City radiators with FE. What hoses?
Post by: 59meteor on 2020-04-24 15:21
Hi Terry, if they are the ball & cup pushrods, yes I would like them please. By the way, I moved to Abbotsford about a month ago, so we are almost neighbours now!
Title: Re: Auto City radiators with FE. What hoses?
Post by: FiveSevenLiter on 2020-04-25 01:14
Let me know when you want them.
Terry
Title: Re: Auto City radiators with FE. What hoses?
Post by: 59meteor on 2020-04-25 03:35
I sent you a PM, Terry. Thanks.
As for my Auto City Classic rad, the mounting holes were a bit narrower than my rad support, and once I slotted the holes, it seems the mounting holes are also too high, the radiator cap will hit the hood. Not a huge problem, as there  is over 1 1/2" between the bottom of the radiator, and the rad support. Still, have to wonder hard would it have been to put the holes in the correct locations? Not a huge amount of space between the fan and rad, either, anybody else with a FE in the same boat?
Title: Re: Auto City radiators with FE. What hoses?
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2020-04-25 08:12
I don't remember the mounting holes being too high, but that doesn't mean they were not. I got mine over 5 years ago. The radiator can be easily moved forward about an inch, but it also has to be moved almost all the way down to the core support if you do that. The downside to moving it forward, is the radiator cannot be removed without removing the hood.
To move it forward, the top of the core support has to be slotted to allow the side flanges of the radiator to slip down in front of the core support instead of behind it. You need to make 2 spacers........I used 3/4" aluminum tubbing long enough to get both the mounting holes on each side. Makes it alot easier than trying to deal with individual spacers. I double face taped the tubing in place. I got pics somewhere if needed, but all they'll show is the location of the slots.
I also removed the flange on the core support underneath the radiator. For reference, the bottom of my radiator just touches the main center core support bolt's head. I have about 1/4" clearance from the std. radiator cap to the underside of the hood.
Title: Re: Auto City radiators with FE. What hoses?
Post by: lalessi1 on 2020-04-25 10:12
I have a Griffith radiator and I moved it forward 2" (as far as it would go without hitting the core support). I moved the mounting flanges 2" to the rear of the radiator and did a minor amount of grinding for clearance at the top of the core support. I didn't need to remove the hood. The core support is designed to allow radiator mounting with the mounting flanges flush with the front of the radiator (V8) or flush with the rear of the radiator (I6). There is room for a 2" gain in spacing.

I don't have a problem with the upper hose....
Title: Re: Auto City radiators with FE. What hoses?
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2020-04-25 10:28
I believe both the 6 and 8 cyl radiators were mounted on the engine side of the core support. It's the flange locations on the different radiators that position it.
Title: Re: Auto City radiators with FE. What hoses?
Post by: hiball3985 on 2020-04-25 10:51
As far as I can remember all FE's through the late 70's are 1.75 outlet. I'm guessing the radiators are only for Y blocks cars which are 1.5. Auto City may not have one for an FE car.
Title: Re: Auto City radiators with FE. What hoses?
Post by: 59meteor on 2020-04-26 12:13
Well, after some researching, I found that a 69 Mustang 390 used an upper radiator hose with the correct sizes, 1 1/2" for the rad, 1 3/4" for the T stat housing. will need to be shortened, but hopefully it works out. And I was able to get a new lower hose for a 59 Ford with a FE engine, from my local parts store, although it does seem a fair bit longer, but easy enough to trim.
Title: Re: Auto City radiators with FE. What hoses?
Post by: hiball3985 on 2020-04-26 17:52
Thats good information, I hope to remember it for the future. Thanks