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Technical => General Tech Discussion => Topic started by: wv 57s forever on 2022-01-23 09:27

Title: granada spindles
Post by: wv 57s forever on 2022-01-23 09:27
   is there a ball joint that will go into the spindle without all the extra at bottom ?  :deadhorse:
Title: Re: granada spindles
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2022-01-23 10:15
If I have all this correct, that "extra at the bottom" is what gives the drop. I used a short length of thick walled rubber tubing to cover the exposed spindle space and put pressure on the top of the ball joint boot. How big the spindle's hole is reamed governs the depth of ball joint "intrusion", and determines the exact amount of drop.
When I first was aware of the space, I was very uncomfortable with it, did some research and found that was the way it was done hundreds of times in the past. After 56k miles, I'm no longer uncomfortable with it. Just my 2 cents, but actually not sure why you're asking.
Title: Re: granada spindles
Post by: hiball3985 on 2022-01-23 10:39
There is no other ball joint that I know about. I feel the only proper way is to ream the spindle to the same size as the original spindle for the ball joint to fit correctly. I forget what degree reamer is required??? Just my opinion..
If I had to do it again I wouldn't use Granada spindles. I would get an after market kit that works with the stock spindles
Title: Re: granada spindles
Post by: gasman826 on 2022-01-23 12:42
The Granada style brake spindle was used for more than 10 years on an array of FOMOCO vehicles.  So some spindles are machined different the others...there is not one spindle.  I've heard all kinds of issues with ball joints and tie rods needing reaming.  I have only had one set of spindles that required the tie rod holes ream slightly...the cotter pin hole wouldn't align.  A couple of turns with a ream solved the cotter pin issue.  Some spindles require larger wheel bearings and seals.  I haven't found any alignment issues I couldn't over come.  New replacement parts are readily available.  They may not be road-race quality but work pretty good for street use.  I will not be removing any of the Granada style brakes/spindles from my cars.  That being said, I am lining up parts for a disc brake conversion.  I have Kelsey Hayes setup to use but will toss it.  I really like to use the OEM stuff for street use.  But, with the limited availability and high cost of 50 year old brake parts, my next conversion will be Wilwood.  I will still use 2010 OEM disc for the rear conversion.
Title: Re: granada spindles
Post by: 59meteor on 2022-01-23 14:08
I have the Wilwood front disc brakes on my 59, which retains the factory spindles, and I am very happy with it. Regarding the Granada spindles, I have heard, but have never tried it personally, that the Lincoln Versaille , which was based on the Granada, has the same lower ball joint tapered hole size as a 57-59, and  supposedly are a direct fit on the old Ford ball joints. I believe the same outer tie rod end problem, where the cotter pin hole is too low to get past the castle nut, which can be addressed by either using later tie rod ends, filing the nuts notch deeper, or grinding the top of the spindle arm to allow the nut to thread down further.