hi all, the people working on my emergency hook up are having problems, & I can't find anything like pictures of the whole system, any 1 have any thing to help? starting to give up on this car repair place, & its gettng harder fnding people to work on our cars, thanks
Here are a few pictures of the cable system below the floor. I may have more pictures of the cable setup below the dash and also of mounting of the brake shoes if you need them. Jerry
thanks for the pictures, the frame shows what should have been the easy part, put I think the release handle part is the problem, monday I'll have to talk to the shop & c if there ordering a new under dash kit, any morre its a pain when you can't do the work yourself
Here are some pictures from under the dash. The cable is missing that goes from the handle and through the outside sheath. If I remember right the pin that sticks out from the side of the tube is a press fit and is removed so the new cable can be installed and then pressed back in. Jerry
thanks Jer, pictures big help, its to bad I havn't got a lift or I would do it myself,
great pics, but just to make things clear and eliminate missunderstanding. The third pic shows the hood release handle. it has nothing to do with the hand brake lever.
Quote from: glr7533 on 2024-10-05 11:49Here are some pictures from under the dash. The cable is missing that goes from the handle and through the outside sheath. If I remember right the pin that sticks out from the side of the tube is a press fit and is removed so the new cable can be installed and then pressed back in. Jerry
You are right, I looked at the bracket and for some reason didn't see that there was a cable attached to it instead of the metal tube. Just another sign of old age. Jerry
like I said before, the pictures were great, but If only I could see under the car from the firewall to the hookup to the arm that holds the 2 brake cables, I think thats where my problem is, Jerry
Quote from: glr7533 on 2024-10-05 11:49Here are some pictures from under the dash. The cable is missing that goes from the handle and through the outside sheath. If I remember right the pin that sticks out from the side of the tube is a press fit and is removed so the new cable can be installed and then pressed back in. Jerry
"the pin" can be clearly seen in the second picture. It is a knurled press fit perpendicular into the shaft and it guides the shaft in a slot in the outer tube so that the handle/shaft cannot be removed until the pin is removed. I removed mine with a pair of vice grips by gripping and prying the pin out. DO NOT twist the pin, it can break (ask me how I know). I actually bought several threaded stepped socket headed cap screws as future backup. I will post a broken pin and a cap screw replacement picture. I had a spare pin that is in now, it is bent but working. If it breaks I will tap the hole in the shaft for the screw. I have a couple of screws I can provide if desired.
Pic of e-brake handle pins
thanks for the pictures and help. might take u up on the pins, we'll see what the place doing my work says, thanks again
to Lalessi1, I've looked many times, are you referring to the pin holding the pulley which looks to have a cotter pin in it, if thats it, why a press fit?
It has been more than 25 years ago that I disassembled my parking brake mechanism. I don't remember how I removed the pressed fit pin but I do remember thinking how silly it was. I didn't know there was a threaded pin upgrade so I tapped the hole and made a sleeve for a bolt to mimic the shape of the press-in pin. It has been apart several times over the years and continues to serve well.
ok, 1st, no ones said for me, is the pin in the pulley?, an 2nd, in cars early days when being built were over built, I was in fords tool & die, so I know how things have changed, I had a 51 ford that I restored & sold 10 years ago, I also worked in the try out dept that perfected dies to make parts, fenders, hood, inner panels etc, example, the 51 ford inner panel on the trunk lid had so much double metal, today, no such thng, now it would have been smooth, metal has inproved so much since then, also now on my 57 ford conv I have cut some of the inner panels with a saw all for axcess to the mounting screws on some of the outside stainless trim, more metal then needed for supporting diff things, same thng with the doors, when my window went out of track & hard to get to, cut some holes inside door panel for easy axcess to rollers etc, point being, car dealers over built. guessI got carried away, sorry, ,
Quote from: geraldchainsaw on 2024-10-06 11:21thanks for the pictures and help. might take u up on the pins, we'll see what the place doing my work says, thanks again
Quote from: geraldchainsaw on 2024-10-06 11:36to Lalessi1, I've looked many times, are you referring to the pin holding the pulley which looks to have a cotter pin in it, if thats it, why a press fit?
That is not it.
In the pic I posted the pin in the picture (on the left) is the actual pin I am referring to not the threaded shoulder bolt). In the second pic posted by glr7533 the pin is sticking out of the upper side of the brake handle shaft a couple of inches from the pulley at the bottom. I am sure that is what the shop is trying to understand. You can't change the cable without removing that pin and pulling the handle/shaft out with the cable attached. Another picture....Help that helps....
ok, If I under stand it, the brake handle shaft & pulley are both held together with this pin?, why the press fit & cotter pin? have I got it now?, like I said earlier, fords over build every thing.
sometimes I have to rread things a 100 times before I get it, sorry guys
No problem!
The pulley is not connected to the handle shaft. Think of the handle shaft fitting into a bracket that mounts to the firewall and dash. The bracket has a long slotted tube and a pulley that is attached to it. The handle shaft slides in and out of the slotted tube and has a cable connected to the end of it. To disconnect the cable you pull the handle shaft all of the way out. To do that you must remove the pressed in pin. The pulley is not involved.
hi Lynn, got your msg, depending on what happens at the repair shop tomorrow, will keep your # if needed, thanks. Jerry
The pin everyone is talking about is shown in the second photo sticking straight up from the main tube just before the pulley at the firewall. That is pressed into the shaft, rides in a slot on top of the tube. It must be removed to get the shaft out of the tube. The shaft has a recess in the end just before the pulley and that's where the cable ball end is attached. I hope I'm remembering all this correctly. Also, I think the pulley must be removed in order to bring the cable up to the shaft.
1 last question, ,the cable from the release handle, can I buy 1, or do I make it up?, thanks for all the info guys, Jerry
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I bought mine, it was 11 years ago though....
Here is a new pin....
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The pin that we are talking about is on the tube that is mounted under the dash with the brake handle attached. The handle is attached to a rod that slides inside that tube. If you look at the tube there is a slot that runs the length of the tube. The pin goes into that slot and is pressed into the rod that is inside it. This pin keeps the rod from twisting so the brake handle stays in the proper location and does not rotate or spin. It also holds the brake in the locked position when you apply the E brake. You must remove this pin to install a new cable. Jerry
I'llmake 1 last comment about this post, EVEN THOUGH i LOOKED MANY TIMES, i DIDN'T SEE THE LITTLE POST ON THE TOP OFTHE CONTROL RELEASE ARM, for some reason there it was, must have been my glasses, now that i KNOW WHERE ITS AT ITS EASIER TO UNDERSTAND. i JUST WENT TO THE EYE PLACE FOR A EXAM so I'm hitting lots of wrong keys. the place doing mycable repair is replacing the cable from the control arm back, so we'll see how thatworks out, will let you know, but, thanks forall ofthehelp guys, jerry