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Title: Just a question about installing a windshield
Post by: Ed Hawkins on 2025-02-08 06:14
I have a 2 door sedan custom 300 and I want to know if the windshield and rear window before the headliner? The initial 57 was dragged out of a scrap yard and the parts car was somebody left overs put together. I bought the second one for the glass. That is where the question if from. Just glass!
Title: Re: Just a question about installing a windshield
Post by: Ford Blue blood on 2025-02-08 08:13
Headliner first!
Title: Re: Just a question about installing a windshield
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2025-02-08 09:22
yes, what Bill said. Definetly headliner first.
The only thing I'd do with the glass prior to installing the headliner, is to install the seal and stainless trim (except for the corner pieces) to the glass. that way the seal can be "settling into" the windshield shape/conforming during the time you're doing the headliner. If you're new to '57s, the stainless must be installed into the rubber seal and the assembly installed onto the car as an assembly.
Title: Re: Just a question about installing a windshield
Post by: 1930artdeco on 2025-02-19 14:09
Rats, if I did this bass ackwards do I have to remove the windshield to install the headliner. Actually not me someone else?

Mike
Title: Re: Just a question about installing a windshield
Post by: abe_lugo on 2025-02-19 15:21
Mike, on the wagon rear it doesn't matter. 
To hold the fright better its best if it open there.
but right before the window rubber on the front there is about a.75" space that is flat, there should be some teeth that hold the headliner fabric there. you basically get one chance to use those or be care bending them. this area get covered by the garnish molding, so if you dont have the teeth there you can maybe install some sort of tack strip that you can staple the front of the headliner to. it also get glue, but the the teeth are there for extra hold.
Title: Re: Just a question about installing a windshield
Post by: BP57CUSTOM on 2025-02-19 18:16
MY headliner was installed with the windshield in and the rear window out. Not a problem.
Title: Re: Just a question about installing a windshield
Post by: 1930artdeco on 2025-02-20 08:02
So it is possible. Great thanks Abe!
Title: Re: Just a question about installing a windshield
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2025-02-20 09:36
If I recall correctly, the rear window has to be out because the headliner fabric actually wrapped around the flange that the rubber seal nests over. There is no tackstrip on the back, and there is no garnish rail.
The windshield area is different than the back however. There is a tackstrip, although it has aged to the point where it's not really a good tacking/stapling strip anymore. It is located under the front garnish rail. The fabric on the front does not go into the flange area. When pulling the headliner to remove wrinkles, it is so much easier to not have the glass in for a number of reasons. First is just having that "working room" for your hands, second is having the flange available for clamps to hold the fabric in place while you're pulling on it.
It is possible to replace/install the headliner with the windshield in, but I wouldn't want to do it. You could always try, and pull the windshield if it's not working out for you.
A link to my install:  https://57fordsforever.com/smf/index.php?topic=3085.msg18136#msg18136   The link brings you to the middle. scroll up, then down.
Title: Re: Just a question about installing a windshield
Post by: djfordmanjack on 2025-02-20 13:40
Rich, Mikes 57 is a wagon, so the rear hatch will provide access anyways.
Title: Re: Just a question about installing a windshield
Post by: 1930artdeco on 2025-02-21 10:06
DJ, thanks I should have mentioned that.

Mike