Getting engine pulled next week,the main question is will a 302 engine bolt up to my ford-o-matic transmission,I belive its a five bolt,will not know for sure until sometime next week when the garage gets the 292 pulled out.Just trying to get all the info on the swap before hand.Thanks
The quick answer is no the stock tranny will not bolt to a 302.
ok then,I thought a early rebuilt 302 with five bolt would,and I knew that newer 302 had six bolt hook ups,So now I'm at a lost at what to do,the motor has to be replaced,trying to save money.
I am no expert about the possibility of some kind of adaptor, so I won't address if that is a possibility.
My engine swap with strict budget involved using a 302 and a C4 transmission, the combo in late 60s Fords. The rebuilt C4 cost me about $750. Then, there is the issue of needing a new driveshaft, too...about $200-400(?).
I do wish I had the money at the time to bump up to the AOD (automatic overdrive) tranny for freeway driving, but they cost $1500-2000. Maybe later.
Big swaps like this are expensive.
Quote from: whisper38 on 2013-09-21 17:27
ok then,I thought a early rebuilt 302 with five bolt would,and I knew that newer 302 had six bolt hook ups,So now I'm at a lost at what to do,the motor has to be replaced,trying to save money.
All 302's had 6 bolt bellhousing, all 260's had a 5 bolt bellhousing. 289's could be either depending on build date.
Well the 292 is out of the car,rebuilted 302 is supposed to be ordered,have to go to junk yard to pick up transmission to fit it along with driveshaft.
AOD (non electric) and drive shaft from a Crown Vic.
Quote from: Ford Blue blood on 2013-10-03 17:44
AOD (non electric) and drive shaft from a Crown Vic.
What year? I know the 302 is going to be a 1974 year model.
93 & down F-150, 98 & down MK-VIII, not sure about the Crown/Merc mid 90s for sure, just don't know the top or bottom. T-Birds/Cougar with 302, 89 and up to I think 95.
all Mark viii's had the 4r70w (electronic) 93-98. I'm thinking maybe you meant the Mark vii's
Rich you'er corect, missed the "fat finger" typo....
well delays on getting the engine here,next quesrion,what type of headers will fit without having to beat the heck out of them.
The 302 fox body mustang headers are supposed to fit.
I swapped a 1972 302 into my 58 ford using a 1989 aod from a pickup. Mine was originally a 223 car,but I used 84 mustang motor mounts, and an 88 mustang trans mount. With these motor mounts they can be swapped side to side which will move the motor forward or backward depending on how they are installed. One of the ways (farther forward) put the trans mount in the stock location. I never even removed the trans crossmember during my swap. Fox body mustang headers will fit (stock or aftermarket) hope this helps a bit.
Well finally the motor is in the ranchero and does run,put in a C-6 automatic transmission,now to find a junk yard driveshaft that will fit,the trans. and the rear end.I know I will have to get it cut to size,just need to figue out what driveshaft will be the closet fit.This has been a nightmare of a engine swap,its been one thing after another.
took a driveshaft from a LTD had it reworked,to fit,now the driveshaft is hitting the tunnel,guess I'm going to have to have the transmission mount that was made shorten down,or cut a small opening in the tunnel,so it doesn't hit.
Quote from: whisper38 on 2013-12-14 05:34
took a driveshaft from a LTD had it reworked,to fit,now the driveshaft is hitting the tunnel,guess I'm going to have to have the transmission mount that was made shorten down,or cut a small opening in the tunnel,so it doesn't hit.
Ran into the same problem when I installed a T5 in mine. I was able to just cut about a 1/4in of the metal part & reweld it to lower it enough to fit. Still close but it doesn't hit the tunnel.
I had posed this question to a few that were running this combo, my 351/T-5 hit badly in the tunnel area, I'm running fox mustang mounts. the cross member for the trans is a fabbed up deal, we tried to keep the engine fairly level. I think I need to carve up most of the tunnel to clear
Well I went to garage today told them to cut the tunnel,I have a new tunnel sheet metal I can put back,once I get the ranchero back, I'm going to go get a 1988 mustang transmission mount and try it.These guys have had my car for over three months,and its been a nightmare with them,to get them to do anything.Never again with these guys.Never get anyone in N.C. to work on your baby.
Well had to ranchero delivered today,had to let it sit and idle for a little while until the automatic choke opened up,to get it to idle down,after only five minutes or so,raidorater boiled over,not sure whats going on there.I'll look at it in the morning. :deadhorse:
Quote from: whisper38 on 2013-10-09 18:24
well delays on getting the engine here,next quesrion,what type of headers will fit without having to beat the heck out of them.
For dependability and no exhaust leaks I went with the Hi-Po 289 cast iron headers...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCrm405AMg0
Fit perfect in my wagon with the 302...
You could get a FMX bell from a 302 and keep your old trans and shaft.
Probably easier and cheaper to rebuilt the 292, certainly more torque and driveability.
Goodluck,
Ron.
Well the Ranchero home,with the 302 installed and running,still a few bugs that I will take care of myself.Have a C6 Transmission,shorty headers,Chrome altenator,Electronic distr.4 Barrel holley.to name a few.
Looking great...I'll bet getting it home finally put a smile on your face. I see you got your electric wipers also. Thanks for posting. Let us know how she drives after you get the bugs worked out.