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Title: How many projects are too many?
Post by: rmk57 on 2016-02-15 14:52
I have my 57 of coarse and a Boss Mustang I currently dug into a month ago.
Now I have this opportunity to pick up a 66 Bronco. Low mile, father and son
ownership, factory pto winch. The body appears to have minimal rust although
it has a cheap repaint so I don't know what's hiding underneath.

I've had a couple of early Broncos and really like them, there almost practical as a daily
driver. They hold their value pretty well in the market as well.

I better think on it for a couple days, hopefully it'll be sold.  :002:



Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2016-02-15 19:17

How many projects are too many?
sometimes, just one.
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: lalessi1 on 2016-02-15 19:33
One thing I remember that my dad tought me... "If you can't make a decision, time will"
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: Ecode70D on 2016-02-15 19:44
    It depends on if you have a big enough garage.  When I was actively building up my collection I usually had two, but have had up to three and four car projects going at the same time.  I never gave  up on a project and  finished my last one about two years ago. 
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: SkylinerRon on 2016-02-15 21:32
I've got a number of projects some are keepers and some are potenial flips
as retirement income. Time and space are the big factors.

Those old Broncos are known rust buckets so look everywhere on it.
You can buy a replacement tub though.....

Goodluck,

Ron.
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: Limey57 on 2016-02-16 02:24
I always had two or three project cars on the go at any one time, but my free time and money were only one cars worth at the most.  Since restoring the Ranchero I've (so far) resisted the temptation of other cars so I can remain focussed on finishing the Ranchero.  There's nothing worse than a load of your buddies going to a car show and you have to go in your modern daily driver because all you've got is three cars all in bits.
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: jvo on 2016-02-16 10:04
Never too many.  We all need to dream, that's what keeps a lot of us going.  After this Ranchero build, I have a 27T roadster that  has a rolling chassis, and I have all the parts for it.  Also have a 40 Ford pickup, and all the body parts for it, plus half the drivetrain.  Also have a 47 Merc coupe that I plan on turning into a convertible, and I have a donor convertible top for it, and a couple parts cars as well.  Also collecting parts for a 29 model A roadster, and I have most of the body parts, except for the doors, which I will buy new.  I have some drivetrain parts for this as well.  The model A is for my grandson, should I live that long, cause he is only 2 1/2 right now.  We can all dream right????  We're all gonna live forever, right???? I'm only 61, and I hope I have lots of "good years" left. 
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: Ecode70D on 2016-02-16 16:53
jvo
   You have lots of good years left.  61 is nothing.   Thinking about them and doing them is what keeps us young in my opinion.   Jay
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: SkylinerRon on 2016-02-16 23:17
That 47 Merc convert is worth a pile of dough!

A friend of mine parted one out in 1964 to fix -up a 48 Ford coupe.
I never let him forget it!

Ron.
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: suede57ford on 2016-02-17 08:45
I'm struggling with letting go of some cars this year.  It's been really tough, as everything I have, I consider to be special.   Most of the cars I have I have bought because I was searching for them.  I don't buy any car with the thoughts of selling.   Since I can do all my own work, I've been able to buy project cars or barn find as they came up.   What has happened is that over the last 25 years of buying something every other year, I now have a nice collection of 10-14 special Fords.  I feel I do a great job improving on most of them all the time.

A couple things have changed for me recently to force me to make decisions on what to keep.  My kids are now three and four and I want to focus on them when they are young and the '69 Boss 429 barn find I had always dreamed of is now in my shop. I had to pay market value for the Boss, as that chance might never have came up again, so I have a big note hanging over me.   I initially figured I'd just sell a few and pay my balance down, It was easy to convince the bank and wife, but harder to convince me to let them go.  I'm going to take huge losses on some (CJ Torinos), which I accept, but then they will be gone from my collection.  I am really stingy with my '57 Ford stuff, as they are my first love, and I can't have too much VR57 Blower stuff.

Space is another issue.   I have a big shop next to my house, but it's full of cars, and I really have to shuffle to work on others cars. 

I have been fortunate to have collected so much for an average guy with a regular job, but it's getting harder to manage with life changing.

This year I will be applying my first steps to recovery.
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: rmk57 on 2016-02-17 10:10
I decided to pick it up. Needs minimal rust repair, tune up, gas gauge doesn't work and few other smaller items. May keep it for a 2-3 years and then flip it, maybe.

I have a hour and a half drive on the freeway to my place with it, should be an interesting drive back as it has 4.11 rear gears. in it!

Hope your Boss 9 is mostly complete, as you know the missing parts are ridiculously pricey.

I have the engine out of mine, KK 2516, mostly for a refresh and compartment detail.
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: John Palmer on 2016-02-17 11:01
In reading thru this thread, I think we are all in about the same place.  IMO, we are just temporary caretaker's of our projects/collections and need to enjoy them while we can.  I'm pushing 70, and I can tell you that your view's will change as time goes by.  I've sold items in the past that I wish I still had today (a 1949 Thames/Anglia) but you cannot keep everything.  Even Jerry Sienfield (sp?) is thinning out his Porsche collection.  I have collected vintage Schwinn Bicycles, and California Pottery for many years and still get the enjoyment.  In addition to my '57 Ranch Wagon, I drag race with my son, and collect and rebuild vintage camper trailers.  Enough time, and play $$ is always the hurdle when your retired. But one thing that happens is that the very rare items continue to escalate in price and at a point, it makes future collecting just "too expensive" to still be fun.  It has very little to do with what you can afford, or how much space it takes up, at some point you just say, "no way am I going to pay that much"!

My vote would be enjoy the family first, sell off some of the extra cars, invest into your "keepers", and don't look back.  Enjoy the moment, and keep running for as long as you can.
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: rmk57 on 2016-02-17 11:31
This thread should have been placed into the "off topic stuff". 

Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: lalessi1 on 2016-02-17 21:42
"You gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em"! Timing is everything and that is at the heart of these issues.... isn't this "Off Topc Stuff"????
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: hiball3985 on 2016-02-18 09:59
Just trying to keep all 3 of mine running is enough of a project for me as they are all daily drivers. I can't see any new ones in the future, between the time, $$$, and getting the old bones moving it's getting hard. I can't say any of mine are 100% finished, there is always something to do. I'm working on a Y block engine rebuild now and have nothing to put it in and probably never will  :003:
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2016-09-11 18:50
Never enough projects........ I love them all....
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: Contibob on 2016-09-12 00:02
I keep thinking I have too many, but can't seem to bring myself to part with them. I am at 17 cars now and all but two run and drive great. I have the nice ones, but I get most enjoyment out of the ones that need cosmetic work. I can drive my 57 Continental Mark II and no one seems to notice it. Then I get in my old 57 4dr Fairlane 500, dead paint, hanging headliner......., and I get high signs from everybody, Horns beeping, people taking pictures with cell phones driving down the freeway. My garages are starting to look like an episode of hoarders with parts and extra engines and so on. One day though, I am sure I will have to thin the herd, but for now? Drive em and enjoy them no matter what they look like.
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: JPotter57 on 2016-09-13 10:42
My wife would say that one project is too many.  Myself, I have my 57, and my 61 unibody, my sons 79 Mustang Pace Car, and a 98 Mustang for my next driver age son.  All of them need work, some way more than others.  They are an outlet for me, when I have had all I can stand of work related issues, or political nonsense, I unwind by wrenching on my toys.  My 57 gives me the greatest satisfaction.  57s are my favorites, but I have a soft spot for the Mustangs too.  Luckily, on my 57 at least, I had bought up a great deal of the stuff I needed to get work done on it, so now that the job situation came with lower pay, I can still make progress on it.
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: mustang6984 on 2016-10-26 03:01
Three Mustangs ('68 coupe-'69 fastback-'84 SVO), two '57 Ford Sedan Deliveries, '50 Dodge P/U, and an '83 RX-7. (the RX will probably be farmed out) Have my eyes on a '67 T-Bird and a late 40's panel van as well. As long as I can keep turning wrenches...I'll keep building. Also want to build a Factory Five '33 Ford.

At 63...I'm pretty much gonna be busy! LOL!!! :002:
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: Ford Blue blood on 2016-10-26 09:38
I hope I live long enough to finish them!  Ranchero, 61 2dr Ranchwagon, and a 57 Retractable.  Have trouble keeping the finished ones ready and running as it is now!

I will most likely sell two of the finished after the Ranchero is completed.
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: mustang6984 on 2016-10-26 12:05
A retractable?!?!?! Oh I am jealous! Would love to get my hands on one of those!
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: canadian_ranchero on 2016-10-26 21:40
i have 3 that run and drive.my 57 wagon,71 ford xlt f100 and a 65 mustang convertible.now if i live to be 150 years old maybe i will finish my project ones,66 mustang,79 mustang,59 f100,57 meteor wagon,57 meteor ranchero,and a 40 ford coupe
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: mustang6984 on 2016-10-26 23:12
Gee whiz! How old are some of you guys? I'm 63, and I have read in Street Rodder about guys who are in their 70's and still building cars. There is a guy out here where I live who is 82-83...and still cranks out 1-2 a year! He makes me feel like a 25 year old kid! LOL!!!
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2016-10-27 00:34
I'll be 70 next month...wish I had another build in me, but I don't. I'd sure like to give a crack at making a Custom 300 convertible.
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: mustang6984 on 2016-10-27 00:49
DAMN! From the way you speak of your builds...I would have thought you were a mere child in his 50's! LOL!!! I hope to be able to turn the wrenches into my 70's. I didn't get to really start until I was in my early 60's. Too much other "stuff" going on...although I kept collecting cars...and now have 15...some are daily's...most are not. (see list above) I also have a cross country move ahead of me as well...so there is gonna be that fun tossed in. Heading to Missouri, SW corner of...near Arkansas border...hopefully within the next 18-24 months. That will put me only a few hours away from you...so cruises would be possible! I'm originally from San Antonio...live in WA state now...across from Vancouver Island Canada. So, need to get as many running as possible, they ship cheaper that way.

I resurrected my build thread last night with pics of my floors...they be UGLY...swing in and take a look. Ideas will be eagerly accepted and looked forward to!!!
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2016-10-27 08:11
Branson Area? My wife and I keep talking about a trip to there. and Jerry's classic cars is in NW arkansas, about an hour so. of Branson.

A lot of us were/are where you are with your floorboards. EMS is the way to go for those. How are your tailgates?
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: mustang6984 on 2016-10-27 12:13
The Sedan Delivery tailgate is a one-piece unit...heavy as all get out! I am going to split the thing in two, I have a bottom already, that I have been hauling around behind me for 45+ years. So I'll need to get the latches and hinges for a standard station-wagon 'gate and do the install. Top 1/2 is in really good shape, except the rubber around the windows is super dried out...but I am hoping to find some place that will have it. If not...maybe there is a way to soften it up again.
I have EMS in my parts folder...their stuff looks really good. Also have Mac's Antique Auto Parts...know anything about them?

Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2016-10-27 08:11
Branson Area? My wife and I keep talking about a trip to there. and Jerry's classic cars is in NW arkansas, about an hour so. of Branson.

A lot of us were/are where you are with your floorboards. EMS is the way to go for those. How are your tailgates?
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: 59meteor on 2016-10-28 02:30
Are you sure that you really want to convert your Sedan Deliveries tailgates to the much more common station wagon style? I have owned 2 57 Ford Sedan Deliveries myself, and I always thought the 1 piece tailgate with the 3 windows were just so cool! If the factory spring loaded upper hinges are working correctly, I never found the 1 piece tailgate to be that hard to open. Funny that the 58 Sedan Delivery used a totally different  setup to hold the tailgate open. An interesting differance between the US 57 Sedan Deliveries and the Canadian versions (I live in BC),is that the US cars (trucks?) have "Courier" emblems on the front fenders, where both my 57s had "Sedan Delivery" scripts. Do you know many car guys up on the Northern Washington pennisula? I have been drag racing at Bremerton Raceway for over 35 years (although I mainly race at Mission Raceway here in BC). I know racers from a few areas up your way, like Forks and Indianola. Also, a couple of years ago, I met a guy from Sequim, who has a 59 Ford Custom 300 drag car, same body style as my current 59 Meteor Niagara 300 2 door sedan project.  Also, there is a racer from Port Angeles with a blue 64 Falcon drag car, which used to belong to a couple of other Ford racers from Spanaway and either Tacoma or Puyallup.

As for "too many" projects, I guess its a subjective question. I an 59 years old, and have been "playing with cars" since well before I got my drivers license in 1973. Over the years, I have had a number of Ford performance cars, including 5 factory "R code" 428 Cobra Jet Mustangs and Fairlane Cobras, have been drag racing continuously since 1974, with a number of different cars (all Fords), but having worked on cars for a living since the late 70s, and getting older, I gotta admit enjoying working on my own stuff ain`t as much fun as it used to be. Between my wife & my daily drivers, I have 2 drag cars, a F350 Dually, and enclosed car trailer to keep in usable condition, I hope to have my 59 2 dr sedan ready for the road by next summer, after that, I kinda think I won`t be doing any new project cars in the future. As long as our local dragstrip is open, I plan to keep racing, although I may sell 1 or the drag cars, likely my Mustang, as I have my drag Fairmont for 30 years now, and still enjoy banging thru the gears at the track. I have several friends with so many project cars, that they could never finish 1/4 of them, even if they live to be 100 years old!
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: mustang6984 on 2016-10-28 02:49
I planned on keeping the top half of the tailgate, and just replacing the bottom. A friend I had about 45 years ago had done that. The bottom unbolts and slides off I guess...then he cut the support arms off the bottom and added in a standard bottom gate.
My gate does not stay up well...and I kind of liked the idea of having the drop down bottom. BUT...if I could find a way to be sure that arm would hold the thing up...I might change my mind. I also am missing the latches for locking it on both cars, and not sure if those are available anywhere for Sedan Deliveries..which was another reason for splitting the gates.
I do not know anyone over here on the Peninsula who races. I live in Port Angeles which is just about 20 miles from Sequim, and my cars are in Dungeness which is 5 miles north of Sequim. I think I have seen that blue Falcon at a couple of car shows here.

Are you on the island or over in Vancouver City? I keep threatening to go to the island and do some photography...but I just haven't done it yet. I'd like to spend a couple of days over there just wandering around shooting what ever comes to my eyesight. Especially over at Butchart Gardens. Haven't been over there for about 20 years now. Funny...when I lived in Olympia we went over several times, now I live 12 miles away...and haven't been over!

Do you still have your Couriers? I didn't know there were different name plates for the Canadian vs. American cars. But then again...not surprised. A lot of strange things were/are done when it comes to the vehicles in Canada as opposed to the U.S., like the Mercury P/U trucks. (Saw a movie a week ago on TV...supposedly took place in WA...but I knew right off it was shot in Canada...the gal in the movie pulled up and parked a P/U...that was a Mercury truck. LOL!!!
Might you have any Courier/station wagon parts in your stash that you would like to part with? If you are on the island...that would give me the push to head over for a bit.

I'll keep turning wrenches as long as I can...as I stated above, I see stories in Street Rodder about guys still building in their 70's, and there is a fellow here (in Sequim area) who still cranks out 1-2 a year, and he is in his 80's!
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: djfordmanjack on 2016-10-28 06:02
I also had a 57 Delivery 10 years ago. tried to buy it back from its current owner recently, but no chance. He loves it so much. I would try keeping the og tail door. it's one of those major parts that make a SD. also it is much more practical to get heavy items inside the car than the 2 piece drop down gates. Been lifting Ford engine blocks in and out of my Del Rio and its a pain. just great with the SD door. I was hauling huge stuff in the Courier. The 3 piece SD glass seals are available from Classic car Parts ( Obsolete car Parts) Oklahoma I think.
You should check the springs up at the hinges. maybe they are broken or weak.
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: mustang6984 on 2016-10-28 10:40
I'll check the springs. But this car won't be hauling anything but people. LOL!!! It's working days...are long over!
I know where there are TWO Sedan Deliveries now...for sale...waiting to be rescued by someone who wants to put them back on the road if you're interested. They are in CA I believe, so if you are wanting one...
Ah...just noticed your locale...if you're really in Austria...that probably won't be an option would it?
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: djfordmanjack on 2016-10-28 11:43
It would be an option, if it wasn't for the other 57 that I just bought.... :002:
my old 57 Delivery came from Cali and I bought and picked up my 57 Del Rio in person in Az. But I am not really open for another project, just not right at the moment....and we're back on topic... :003:
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: gasman826 on 2016-10-28 12:44
I will never run out of projects.  It's in my nature to have too many projects.
- 2 '47 Mercury coupes
- a '41 Ford business coupe
- 2 '65 Galaxie fast backs
- '57 Custom
- '57 Courier
- '57 Ranch Wagon -- the only one that is drivable
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: 59meteor on 2016-10-28 14:14
mustang6984, I live on the lower mainland of BC, about 1/2 hour from Vancouver, which is where I work. I sold my last 57 Sedan Delivery about 30 years ago, it is restored and sitting in a local racers private collection, that includes a 70 Boss 429 Mustang. I doubt that I have any Sedan delivery pieces still, I wish that I would have kept all the unique SD pieces before the first one was scrapped over 40 years ago. 50/50 hindsight, I guess. Tou say that your Couriers 1 piece tailgate does not stay up very well, and details?  Both mine used a track along the passenger side inside panel, with a curved arm attatched to the gate, with a wheel that rolled inside the track. That held both my tailgates up very well. A local guy had a 58 Sedan Delivery, its tailgate support was totally different, it has a round overcenter style of pivot arm, that is mounted on the drivers side.
As for Canadian Mercury trucks, they were quite common up here over the years. They were sold from the late 40s until about 1968. ( I owned a 67 M100 short box fleetside). Mercury trucks were available from the 1/2 ton PU, all the way up to tandam axle big trucks, including cab overs, highway "Big Rig" tractor trailers, and other large truck chassis`s, used for dump truck, tankers etc. We also had Mercury Econoline vans and PUs, Meteor Sedan Deliveries and Rancheros, plus the Meteor car line, Ford based from 1949 thru 1961, Mercury based from 1964 until well into the 1970s. There were Meteors sold into the early 80s, but they were basically just Meteor emblems on a normal Mercury. We also had Monarchs, which were full sized Mercury based, from 1949 thru 61, and in 1960, we even had the Frontenac, a Canadian version of a Falcon. Unfortunately, since these vehicles sold only in Canada, and much of Canada get quite a bit of winter snow, as well as road salt, not all that many Meteors, Monarchs, or Mercury trucks have survived over 1/2 century of use.
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: mustang6984 on 2016-10-28 19:04
A Courier eh? We need ot do some discussing over the next few months as we find and solve problems! Do you still have your Courier tags from the front fenders?

Quote from: gasman826 on 2016-10-28 12:44
I will never run out of projects.  It's in my nature to have too many projects.
- 2 '47 Mercury coupes
- a '41 Ford business coupe
- 2 '65 Galaxie fast backs
- '57 Custom
- '57 Courier
- '57 Ranch Wagon -- the only one that is drivable
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: mustang6984 on 2016-10-28 19:08
59 Meteor...we had Monarchs here as well. But not the others.

My Delivery support arm seems to be real sensitive to any sort of jostling...and down it comes. I'll shoot a pic of it and post it in my build thread. Tomorrow or Sunday it should be up.

Oh...and I guess you're pretty far from me...time wise. But not out of reach if there were parts to be found! LOL!!!
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: gasman826 on 2016-10-28 20:21
Quote from: mustang6984 on 2016-10-28 19:04
Do you still have your Courier tags from the front fenders?

I have one half...COU...the rest missing.

My lift gate had this thingy on it.
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: mustang6984 on 2016-10-28 21:31
Yep...that's what mine is like...no extra external spring.


Quote from: gasman826 on 2016-10-28 20:21
I have one half...COU...the rest missing.

My lift gate had this thingy on it.
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: 59meteor on 2016-10-29 01:31
That tailgate support looks like what a 58 Sedan Delivery uses, both my 57 Sedan Deliveries used a very different setup, on the passenger side. On my 57s, there was a horizontal track, about 2 1/2 or 3 feet long, attatched to the inner structure, at the end of this track, there was a downward curve. The tailgate had a link with a roller at the end, which rolled inside the track. When the tailgate was fully raised, the link would drop down into the downward curve, and positively hold the tailgate up. To close the tailgate, you lifted the tailgate up enough so that you could lift the link bar up, and when you started to lower the tailgate, the roller would run along the track.At the top hinges where the upper tailgate section met the roof, there was a pair of large spring loaded assists, to make the tailgate easier to open or close. I don`t know if the tailgate support changed part way thru the 57 production run, or if maybe the Canadian Sedan Deliveries used the track & roller system.
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: mustang6984 on 2016-10-29 01:53
I need to look at mine more thoroughly...to be honest I have not really studied it much. I was so set on splitting the gate, retaining the top 1/2 and putting in a bottom from a station-wagon...but now...after hearing from some here...I am re-thinking that approach.
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: djfordmanjack on 2016-10-29 04:56
Quote from: 59meteor on 2016-10-29 01:31
That tailgate support looks like what a 58 Sedan Delivery, both my 57 Sedan Deliveries used a very different setup, on the passenger side. I don`t know if the tailgate support changed part way thru the 57 production run, or if maybe the Canadian Sedan Deliveries used the track & roller system.

I had exctly that setup and it worked great. When I come to think, my Delivery came from California, but is was originally manufactured in Canada for sure. so this really could be a US/Can thing.
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: djfordmanjack on 2016-10-29 05:00
Sorry, don't have any other pic, but at the lower left photo you can see the chromed quarter circle rod that holds the SD door up, exactly as 59Meteor said. Only issue wiht it was getting it quiet, as the rollers were rattling while driving.
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: 59meteor on 2016-10-29 11:51
Yes, that looks like the same tailgate support mechanism that both my 57 Sedan Deliveries came with. If you zoom in on that photo with the tailgate open, you can also (barely) see the 2 large spring loaded assist hinges at the top. In this photo, the assist hinges are painted red, mine were bare natural steel looking.
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: Zapato on 2016-11-21 15:12
Getting back to the original question of this thread. I have one too many maybe 2 and the for sure one is my 1956 Continental Mark2. It's in the classifieds at a more than fair prize. Give yourself a truly iconic car for Christmas.

Zap -  :unitedstates:
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: djfordmanjack on 2016-11-21 16:28
Zap, you know that I was and still am really interested in that one. An original blue and blue car..... It's just. how many are too many ???
currently 8 cars and another one coming....jsut not the right moment. I get the itch every time I read about the MkII.
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: Zapato on 2016-11-22 19:58
DJ, just curious what did you figure cost wise to ship from my door to yours?

Zap -  :unitedstates:
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: djfordmanjack on 2016-11-23 06:52
Depending on how close you are to the next shipping yard there would be a few hundred $ for pickup, about $1200 -1400 for the container to Netherlands or Germany, a few hundred $ for unloading at the Euro docks and about $750 to have it brought to Austria from the harbor. so this is about $2300-2700 for shipping not including custom fees and taxes. Between European countries the laws for tax and customs are very different and also depend on if the car is a truely vintage vehicle and can be restored. Best case add 7%
on the purchase price PLUS shipping cost. Worst case ( modern drivetrain, interior, customizing rendering the car non-vintage) add 35% taxes. :005: :005:
Lucky me I am only into vintage American iron.... :002:
As you can see there are a lot of additional costs which we have to think about before purchase of another car.
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: brushwolf on 2018-11-26 01:20
That question has crossed my mind...

65 Buick Skylark Convertible (mostly stripped, lotsa parts left)
05 Buick Rendezvous AWD (wife's previous winter commuter, now backup)

89 Cadillac Coupe Deville (still runs and drives, but son crashed twice)
90 Cadillac Eldorado (low miles, son's current driver to replace DeVille)

33 Chev 4 dr body only, missing a rear door (sold)
33 Chev 2 dr in parts, no motor or tranny (sold)
40 Chev 2 dr sedan (promised to Utah brother)
40 Chev 1/2t pickup (keeping, bought out of a barn for $40 in 1978)
40 Chev 1/2t pickup (parts for other one)
60 Chev Impala 2 dr hdtp (TX car, keeping)
60 Chev Bel Air 4 door (parts for Impala)
78 Chev 1/2t (rusty, parts, 350 4v auto, runs, or did a few yrs ago..)
88 Chev Suburban with rebuilt dynoed 454 (previous tow vehicle)
90 Chev 3500 dually (with utility box and replaced 454)
97 Chev Suburban (current tow vehicle that never fails)
18 Chev Trax AWD (wife's winter commuter)

79 Datsun 280ZX (some rust, with 327 Chev and Ford Toploader)
80 Datsun 280ZX (NV car, promised to oldest son and SBF T5 for swap)

49 DeSoto Coupe (fairly solid, bad A frame from accident, nice chrome)
50 DeSoto Convertible (rough parts car, doors gone, top there, frame OK)
57 DeSoto Firesweep 4 door (engine, chassis parts and fenders fit 57 Dodge)

55 Dodge Custom Royal Lancer Hemi (sold)
55 Dodge Royal Lancer (pretty solid V8 AZ then ND car, runs, no brakes)
57 Dodge Custom Royal Lancer Hemi (keeping)

77 Fiat Spider (promised to youngest son for 2.3 turbo or V8 swap)

51 Ford Victoria 2 dr hdtp (rough SD car)
54 Ford Skyliner Glasstop (fairly solid, good top, no motor or front clip)
54 Ford 4 door (parts for other)
56 Ford Victoria 2 dr hdtp (solid, 3 deuces, runs), transmission slips)
57 Ford Custom 4 dr (mostly gone, chassis + some parts)
57 Ford Victoria 2 dr hdtp (MO car, some missing parts)
57 Ford Sunliner (keeping)
58 Ford Sunliner (rusty field car, PS is on my 57, good 430 and T85 OD in it)
57 Ford Skyliner (solid NE car, left qtr damage, rebuilt 312  & FM)
58 Ford Skyliner (IA car, good floors, stuck motor, elec windows)
58 Ford Fairlane 500 4 door (MN car not driven winters, runs, parts for Skyliner)
58 Ford Fairlane 500 4 door (Solid TX parts car, no drive train, front clip gone)
58 Ford Skyliner (rough IA parts car, mostly stripped)
58 Ford Skyliner (rusty MN car, 332 auto, mostly complete, parts for others)
59 Ford TBird (AZ car, 390 knocks, 460 swap?, keeping)
61 Ford Sunliner (ND car, solid body and floors, rusty trunk, stuck motor)
61 Ford 4 door (rusty MN stick parts car for Sunliner)
62 Ford TBird (NE car then IA, 390 rebuilt on stand, keeping)
64 Ford Sunliner XL (MN car rusty but stored since 80's, 390)
65 Ford Fairlane Sports Coupe (CA then MN, some rust, set up for 460)
73 Ford Mach clone (466 and Toploader replaced 351c and C6, keeping)
87 Ford TBird  Turbo Coupe (KY then MN car, body only sold?)
88 Ford F800 diesel 50 ft boom truck (former tree service truck, hydraulic issues)
96 Ford Ranger (IA, then CA, then MN car, still looks nice, 2.3 fading)
04 Ford Mustang (wife's summer commuter)
07 Ford Sport Trac 4.6 2wd (NC then MN car, my driver, former commuting truck)

96 Isuzu Box truck 5.7 Chev motor, cracked transmission case, storage now...)

1954 Mercury 2 dr sedan (complete, stuck Y block, cool patina, not much rust)
1956 Mercury Montclair 2 dr hdtp (complete, stuck Y block, have 351W & C6 for it)
1967 Mercury Cougar (nice body, no motor or tranny, promised to AZ brother)
77 MGB (Explorer motor, aluminum heads, FordT5, TBird rear, in process, keeping)

65 Oldsmobile F85 convertible (now mostly stripped, have lotsa parts off it)
65 Oldsmobile Cutlass 2 dr hdtp (decent body, floor rust,stuck 330, sold)
72 Oldsmobile Cutlass S 2 dr hdtp (SD car, good floors, qtr low rust, sold)
85 Oldsmobile Toronado (low miles, runs and looks good, gave to MN brother)

65 Pontiac LeMans Convertible (rusted frame, have AZ frame, 326 runs, complete)
75 Pontiac Grand AM coupe (SD solid car, no motor, have extra parts accumulated)

51 Studebaker 4 door bullet nose (rusty, no motor, trans, good clip and bumpers)
52 Studebaker Starlight (fair body, no motor, trans, front clip, good rear tint glasses)

85 Toyota Supra Mark (SBC V8 and T5, promised to daughter)

43 John Deere B (runs, water tube leak, flat tire (sold)
1952 Farmall Cub LoBoy with belly mower (runs, but needs overhaul, from Dad)
1952 Farmall H amateur resto, 12 volt conversion, up for sale now)
1958 Case Industrial Loader with chains and 10 ft wide bucket (lifts cars, plows snow)
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: brushwolf on 2018-11-26 01:52
Forgot 5 motorcycles and a 56 Dodge 2 door sedan too..  Wife is happy I have sold some and planning more, but project cars generally don't sellin the winter here.  Yes, my wife may be nominated for sainthood someday..  O0
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: brushwolf on 2018-11-26 17:43
Missed a 72 Dodge Powerwagon and a 68 Torino GT convertible too.  And a Kawasaki 4 wheeler..
Title: Re: How many projects are too many?
Post by: mustang6984 on 2018-11-26 23:31
YIKES!!! You win...WAY too many!  :003: