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Sway bar Kit

Started by LAUDY57, 2013-11-23 13:55

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robhaerr

#45
Quote from: LAUDY57 on 2013-12-20 16:07
Thanks for the dimensions guys, I'm in the ballpark with 24 3/4 wheelwell. I'm roughly guessing at 7 1/4 for bottom of bar, my problem is the bellhouding at 4 3/4 and pan at 5 1/4 (that's why the skid plate. Rob, your 4" to the steering must hit stuff?
After cruising other threads I see good pics of the front bar installation by 57agin Mar 14/12.

I am very careful. I did go over a speed bump and accidentally let the car come down too fast and either the plate under the steering hit or something else did. No damage...but even more careful over speed bumps so the car doesn't slam down off the bump.

No problem getting into driveways. Have to be careful parking towards a curb...the sway bar or bumper could hit.

This stance I have makes the wagon look even longer. I get that comment a lot.

Another photo (that Bob 57Agin took) that shows the ride height in relation to my 5'8" and my buddy Steve at 5'6".

Rob

57AGIN

hiball3985:

The rotors are 11.25" actual.  My invoice for the brake kit from ABS Power Brake, Inc. reads 11" rotors drilled & slotted, black powder coated 4 piston calipers.

The front spring coil diameter is 19/32".  With all the fenderwell etc. in the way I couldn't get an accurate coil count, but I bought the springs through Concours Parts  part # 3010-A-57-CUS.  I downloaded a picture of the spring they show in their catalog and you can count the full spring then subtract one (1) coil and that is what is in my 57.

Bob
57 AGIN

57AGIN

Guys:

The more I looked at the spring photo in the Concours Parts catalog, the more I thought that the number of coils just didn't deem right.  I looked back in my reassembly photos and found a photo of the original parts.  I'd bet that the replacement spring has the same number of coils as the original, just subtract one coil that Rick and I cut off.

Bob
57 AGIN

Frankenstein57

Quote from: hiball3985 on 2013-12-20 09:47
Bob, what rotors are you using that fit the stock spindle?
Jim, not trying to answer for Bob, but the scarebird kit uses a late 60's mustang rotor, and they're bracket takes a GM s-10 caliper

hiball3985

Thank you, I don't plan on any changes in the near future but will keep that for reference.
JIM:
HAPPY HOUR FOR ME IS A GOOD NAP
The universe is made up of electrons, protons, neutrons and morons.
1957 Ranchero
1960 F100 Panel
1966 Mustang

LAUDY57

Jim, I'm curious to know if you placed the bar bushing clamps in the front holes of the L-bracket or the rear ones. Looking at 57agin's pics (Mar 14/12) he used the rear holes but I certainly need to use the front ones. Even with front holes the back part of the bar is going to hit my frame when it comes down -I even have more inward tilt to the a-arm bolts. I'm thinking I need to bend the bar slightly, if my press will handle it, to splay the bars out more or move the L-bracket forward. I also removed the spacers like he did.
"That Guy" keeps stealing everything I put down!

hiball3985

#51
Laudy, I used the front holes and my set up looks just like yours. I haven't had any issue with the bar hitting the frame.

I don't see the bumper brackets in your picture?

I just noticed the spacer between the top and bottom grommets is missing.
JIM:
HAPPY HOUR FOR ME IS A GOOD NAP
The universe is made up of electrons, protons, neutrons and morons.
1957 Ranchero
1960 F100 Panel
1966 Mustang

57AGIN

Guys:

It's been a while since Rick and I installed the HD sway bar on my 57, but here are some photos.  Hope they help.

Bob
57 AGIN

hiball3985

Thanks Bob,
a few observations: I see yours doesn't have the spacer either? and in the first picture I noticed the horns, mine are a large type like that also and most 57's I have seen have smaller ones..
JIM:
HAPPY HOUR FOR ME IS A GOOD NAP
The universe is made up of electrons, protons, neutrons and morons.
1957 Ranchero
1960 F100 Panel
1966 Mustang

hiball3985

I braved the dark and cold of night  :003: This is how mine is.
JIM:
HAPPY HOUR FOR ME IS A GOOD NAP
The universe is made up of electrons, protons, neutrons and morons.
1957 Ranchero
1960 F100 Panel
1966 Mustang

LAUDY57

Thanks guys. Yeah, Bob it was your pics I was referring to where I saw that you used the inner holes. I took the spacer out as well to lower the angle of the arm. I think what I'm going to do is re-make the L-plate, I don't have the bumper brackets to worry about so I'm going to try and move the whole bar up (cutting off the frame extensions I just welded on), maybe shortening the center angle piece on the frame (the mini-skid plate?) so the bar will be more hidden.
I think my bar is bent a little too much on the right angle front corners, that's why the bar is too close to the frame and the a-frame uprights to the bar are leaning way over.
Thanks Jim for the brave dark and cold adventure- it's appreciated.
"That Guy" keeps stealing everything I put down!

RICH MUISE

#56
Jim...Mine never had the spacers in them either....just the two cups as in the other guy's pics. I wonder if it a new change to the kits.
I'm also wondering if those spacers are causing the center of the front of the sway bar to be lower, and that's why you had a problem getting into a driveway you hadn't before? Just out of curiosity,LOL, when it's warmer so you don't have to brave the dark and cold again  :003:, if you could take a pic of yours so we could see the height of the front of your bar in relation to the mounting brace for the core support.
I haven't figured out what you guys are talking about with the "inner holes"
Rich
I can do this, I can do this, I, well, maybe

LAUDY57

Thanks Rich, the mounting brace for the rad core support is what I was talking about. If I shorten that, that's where I want the bar to be.
My bar came with the spacers, but I didn't put them in, also there's grease fittings in the bushing clamps now, nice feature.
"That Guy" keeps stealing everything I put down!

hiball3985

Laudy, I'm thinking about moving the mounting brackets up further also.

Rich, you maybe on to something, with the spacer it could be tipping the bar down a little. I hope some others chime in on the spacer.  I'll take a closer look in the morning and grab a picture also.
JIM:
HAPPY HOUR FOR ME IS A GOOD NAP
The universe is made up of electrons, protons, neutrons and morons.
1957 Ranchero
1960 F100 Panel
1966 Mustang

RICH MUISE

#59
I just went out and braved the cold and dark to have another look at mine. I see now what the inner holes are. I used the inner holes for mine. (inner meaning the back set of holes). My bar is bent more than Lorne's appears to be...it is closer to the frame in the back than it is the front. I'm guessing the reason for this is they bend them as much as they have to to establish the spread between the holes in the two ends? My attaching "spindle" with the bushings leans a little, but not as much as Lorne's... more like Jim's.
If you have portable hydraulic spreader (life of jaws), that may work better than a brake to spread the ends a little.
With all the apparent changes between the old and new sets, I'm wondering if tbirdsouthwest has a different manufacturer supplying these for them.
I can do this, I can do this, I, well, maybe