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Shopping for a Radiator

Started by slopokpete, 2022-03-18 12:47

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slopokpete

I have been shopping for a radiator for my 390FE powered 1957 Ranchero project.  I see that US Radiator has a four row high efficiency radiator for $997.50.
I spoke to Concours Parts yesterday asking about inlet/outlet sizes and got a price from them.  They quoted $699 for their high efficiency radiator.
I'm confused by the big difference in price.  It seems that US Radiator is a major manufacturer supplying a lot of dealers.
It is hard to ignore the price difference.
Has anybody had any experience with the radiators from Concours Parts?
Any advice or guidance would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks
Jeff

RICH MUISE

#1
Quite a few of us got our radiators from www.autocityclassic.com . They are a high efficiency aluminum radiator that mimics the OEM '57 radiator. I think they have the inlet/outlet shown wrong on their (6 cyl. ?) pics, so be sure to verify what your wanting rather than going by website image. When I got mine it was 249ish!! I have never heard of an issue with their radiators. Check our listing of vendors for contact info.
My 4.6 dohc is borderline of running too cool.
249.00 !!!!!!!!! or with shroud and fan for 299.     That should add to your price confusion, lol.
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slopokpete

I've shied away from aluminum radiators due to potential corrosion/electrolysis issues.  Do you need to take any special precautions to prevent this from happening?
Do they cool as well as a copper/brass unit?

59meteor

I have an aluminum radiator in my 428CJ powered 59, I bought the radiator from Auto City Classic in Minnesota. It was under 300 dollars when I bought it several years ago. Nice thing is that they made it to look very much like the factory rad. It works very well at keeping the 428 cool. The only minor modification I needed to do, was to drill new mounting holes a bit higher than the holes in the radiator side brackets, otherwise the hood would have hit the radiator cap. May not be the same situation with a 57 or 58.
1959 Meteor 2 door sedan , 428 Cobra Jet 4 speed. Been drag racing Fords (mostly FEs) 47 years and counting.
Previous 50s Fords include 57 Custom 4 door, 2 57 Ford Sedan Deliveries, 59  Country Sedan, and as a 9 year old, fell in love with the family 58 2 door Ranch Wagon.

59meteor

Quote from: slopokpete on 2022-03-18 17:24
I've shied away from aluminum radiators due to potential corrosion/electrolysis issues.  Do you need to take any special precautions to prevent this from happening?
Do they cool as well as a copper/brass unit?
J have done anything special with my aluminum radiator, water pump, or intake manifold on my 428, and have not seen any issues. The OEs have been using aluminum radiators in cars and trucks for decades. My 99 F350 still has the original radiator, working fine after 23 years.
1959 Meteor 2 door sedan , 428 Cobra Jet 4 speed. Been drag racing Fords (mostly FEs) 47 years and counting.
Previous 50s Fords include 57 Custom 4 door, 2 57 Ford Sedan Deliveries, 59  Country Sedan, and as a 9 year old, fell in love with the family 58 2 door Ranch Wagon.

rmk57


   It depends on where you get your water from. Some surface or well water can plug up or corrode aluminum pretty quick. In that case you could always use deionized or soft water from another source.

In the Northwest were lucky to have great water right out of the tap and I have never done anything but add 30% Prestone green A/F to my cooling system. My aluminum heads and intake manifold look like new inside after 46 years that I've owned it.

Randy

1957 Ford Custom
1970 Boss 429

RICH MUISE

Also did some redrilling to lower the radiator. They are close, but can be made to fit easily.
I added a sacrificial anode to the radiator, and always use distilled water in the 50/50 mix. Put some play-dough on top of the radiator cap the first time you close the hood
I can do this, I can do this, I, well, maybe

Ford Blue blood

My 93 F150 still had the original radiator when it was traded in in 2011.  Never had and issue.

I recommend using distilled water and "green" anti freeze.  Been in the 36 for years with no issues.

As far as cooling efficiency goes, larger tubes better then more tubes to a certain point.
Certfied Ford nut, Bill
2016 F150 XLT Sport
2016 Focus (wife's car)
2008 Shelby GT500
57 Ranchero
36 Chevy 351C/FMX/8"/M II

59meteor

Quote from: Ford Blue blood on 2022-03-19 08:03
My 93 F150 still had the original radiator when it was traded in in 2011.  Never had and issue.

I recommend using distilled water and "green" anti freeze.  Been in the 36 for years with no issues.

As far as cooling efficiency goes, larger tubes better then more tubes to a certain point.
On both the aluminum radiator in my 59, as well as the aluminum with plastic tank rad in my Fairmont drag car, they have 2 wide (1 1/8" ?) tubes, rather than 3 smaller tubes, and, yes, they seem to both work very well. I would also have to think that the larger tubes should be less susceptible to clogging over time, than much smaller tubes.
1959 Meteor 2 door sedan , 428 Cobra Jet 4 speed. Been drag racing Fords (mostly FEs) 47 years and counting.
Previous 50s Fords include 57 Custom 4 door, 2 57 Ford Sedan Deliveries, 59  Country Sedan, and as a 9 year old, fell in love with the family 58 2 door Ranch Wagon.

hiball3985

If you measure and do the math a 2 tube actually has more surface area to dissipate the heat then a 4 tube. I've never had a 2 tube but I never go more then 3..
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1957 Ranchero
1960 F100 Panel
1966 Mustang

rmk57


I've been running this one https://www.summitracing.com/parts/bci-35008 for the last 8-9 years. I did have to trim my core support to fit it in and also for a fan clutch. I live in the northwest and it never gets terribly hot here so in traffic it stays at 190-195 with no shroud and a 160 degree thermostat. I also added a stack plate trans cooler from a Ford class c motorhome. Works well, the oil after years of driving and abuse looks like new.
Randy

1957 Ford Custom
1970 Boss 429

gasman826

I've had three aftermarket aluminum radiators.  One three core cheapo eBay made to fit.  It bolted right in and worked better than the 60 year old OEM on a stock engine.  It worked fine until crap from the 60 year old engine plugged the little cores.  The other two are Griffins with 1-1/2" cores.  The one was a bolt in and worked great on a 550HP engine with electric fans.  The third is also two 1-1/2" but is the largest universal fit in their catalog.  The core support is totally custom with shroud and 19" clutch fan cooling an 800HP+ engine.  Griffins are pretty pricey but do the job.

slopokpete

Thank you everyone for your feed back!
I'll be on the phone with Auto City Classics Monday morning!

Jeff

RICH MUISE

I can do this, I can do this, I, well, maybe

Fairlane62

Good choice.  As Rich mentioned you may need to slot the mounting holes to move the radiator a little lower.  It is pretty close to the hood.