Bad roadtrip 10 days ago.

[RICH MUISE]

Randy, There is a factory-installed magnet already there.
Yesterday, I finally got the transmission mount's studs through the cross-member holes. That was what was stopping the alignment of the crossmember-to-frame mounting. In a few hours, my garage should be warmed up enough to get back to work. I'm sure with a few hours work, I'll know if my car actually moves, or if it's on to plan B. If it is in fact plan B, It'll be so much work getting that tranny out, more than likely I'll opt for a rebuilt unit to replace it............which brings me to my next questions. Jegs has a 4R70W rebuilt tranny on sale for 2k. Has anybody any experience, or heard things, with a Jegs unit? Also, what they have is a 4R70W tranny for a '98 F150 "small block". Are all 4R70W transmission cases the same.length, bellhousing bolt pattern? Would the gearing ratio be different?

[mustang6984]

I think rather than buy another possible batch of installment issues and such, you'd just have what you've got rebuilt.
But again...I am the optimist here...it's gonna work.

[gasman826]

AOD and 4R70 main cases are the same length.  However, there are two tail housing and shaft lengths.  Lincolns and 150s usually had long tail but not an absolute...you know...it's a Ford thing.  There is only about an inch difference...10"+/- and 11"+/-.  I used the long one with the long rear yoke so the Crown Vic/Grand Marquis PI aluminum drive shaft would work.  HD drive shaft with 1350 U-joints and correct yoke for cheap.

[RICH MUISE]

All that struggling for the past 3 or 4 days was of no use. Got it all back together, and still won't move. sheeeeeeet!!
Going to talk to some transmission shops, see what I'm in for. A friend suggested a shop he uses for his street rods.
I need to pull the fluid return line and check for pressure while the engine is running. That will tell me if it's the pump.
 Gonna be months in all likelihood, went thru most of my available $ getting the engine replaced.
Guess I'm not being a good role-model for driving the heck out of them.

[mustang6984]

Guess I'm not being a good role-model for driving the heck out of them.

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I think I will call BS on that. Things happen. Drive 'em 'till you break 'em!

[djfordmanjack]

Rich, are you 100% SURE that it didn't pull or disturb the throttle cable, when it accidentally dropped?
AOD is known to require 100% correct throttle valve adjustment, or it won't work or destroy itself. Gary, please correct me if I am wrong.

[RICH MUISE]

Anymore, I'm not 100% sure of anything. My throttle cable does not have a connection to the 4R70W transmission (not an AOD). It goes only to the throttle body and was undisturbed during the engine replacement other than a simple disconnect at the throttle body. I've read about TV cable adjustment on other threads/forums, don't even know what that is actually. The cable I was concerned about is the shift "linkage"....it's cable, not hard linkage. I'm pretty sure that shift cable is working. The car will not start if in gear, and I can hear slight differences in the engine when I shift from in-gear to neutral.
LOL, yeah I keep hoping I'm overlooking something simple/obvious.

[RICH MUISE]

Have an appointment with the transmission shop my friend uses for his street rods. He'll check for any overlooked issues and pressure test for a bad pump. If it's only a bad pump, $600 will take care of it. Appointment is on the 29th.

[58villager]

rich. is it possible that the torque converter slipped/fell forward when the trans dropped? have had that happen a couple of times myself. did you have any trouble bolting the engine up? also, possibly wrong flexplate? (pulling converter forward?)  also, thanks to all on the window channel suggestions. used 3M 5200 marine sealant to glue clips to channel.probably have to use dynamite to remove them!!!

[RICH MUISE]

The torque converter was out when the trans slipped off the jack.  I believe I had it installed correctly. I think when it happened was when we had pretty easily got the engine in and positioned to the tranny (no bolts in yet)but...... At that point, I realized we had forgotten the 1/8 alum. horseshoe-shaped spacer, so we pulled the engine back a few inches so we could snake it in there. No problem there, but the second time positioning the engine didn't go easily. Took a lot of coaxing to get it in........I think that's when the converter slipped back out, maybe off the final spline.? Don't know for sure, just a guess. I'm pretty sure the flexplate on the replacement engine is the same, but I'll check the old engine and give the transmission guy a measurement he can use to verify that they are the same (or not).
They should be the same, but it's a '97 engine replacing a '95. Thanks for the flexplate thought........it'll be good to verify they are the same........something I should have done before installing. You know how thing go when you rush....you just get further behind.

[djfordmanjack]

I seem to remember Garys posts about the different shim (horseshoe) plates and how it would affect flex plate /starter/converter offset and disturbing the pump seal or such. If you used the wrong combination.
I believe Gary was talking about AODs and a mishap he had in the tech section. No idea if this would affect 4R70W or not. You will find out soon....
keeping my fingers crossed it is just a random problem that can be easily repaired.

[RICH MUISE]

The gods are picking strange ways to work against me, lol! Last night on local internet news was a story about a fire at a local business on the south end of town. It was the transmission shop I had/have an appointment at.

[KYBlueOval]

Rich........I think the Gods were working with you, as your car was not in that shop when the fire started.
John

[mustang6984]

Rich........I think the Gods were working with you, as your car was not in that shop when the fire started.
John

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[RICH MUISE]

Rich........I think the Gods were working with you, as your car was not in that shop when the fire started.
John

Haha, well, that's one way to look at it.
Got some info....they lost a good part of their shop, and 6 vehicles. Nobody hurt, it was closed at the time, so that's the good part