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Title: Engine colour?
Post by: Limey57 on 2013-02-05 16:32
Sorry, color......

I'm sure I've asked this but I'll be damned if I can find it.  I'm taking my block to be bored in a couple of weeks so I'm sorting the paint for it.  I've seen 57's with black, blue or red blocks, what colour (sorry, COLOR!!!) should it be?

Thanks
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: wildhog on 2013-02-05 18:22
57's Should be Red engine ,black valve covers and Argent silver air cleaner.
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-02-05 19:39
As long as we're on colours..should I leave my aluminum block 4.6 aluminum, or paint it?
No, I'm not going to polish it....I don't think..well, maybe...NO!...Well it would look good and I don't have anything sheduled for 2014.
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: Ford Blue blood on 2013-02-05 22:27
Rich you do have too much time to think!........ :003:
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: 4thgen57 on 2013-02-05 22:32
I am no expert however I have pics of my Y when I got it out of storage after 21 years, (It sat in a barn from 1979 to 2000 and I degreased the engine. The block was more or an orange color, with a red air cleaner. the valve covers were indeed black however the stickers on the valve covers are listed as 1955 stickers? in any parts book I look at. Since my Dad has been with the car since day 1, I am confident that it has never been out of my fender wells. Just my 2 cents and any info would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: Lou on 2013-02-05 22:49
 4thgen57...Which engine, where was your car built, what date code?
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: rmk57 on 2013-02-05 23:08
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2013-02-05 19:39
As long as we're on colours..should I leave my aluminum block 4.6 aluminum, or paint it?
No, I'm not going to polish it....I don't think..well, maybe...NO!...Well it would look good and I don't have anything sheduled for 2014.

Paint it the same colour as the body. As long as the inner fenders are a different colour than the body it should look pretty good.
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: Tom S on 2013-02-06 04:48
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2013-02-05 19:39As long as we're on colours..should I leave my aluminum block 4.6 aluminum, or paint it?
Leave it aluminum!  Then you will never have any paint to flake off & it will always be easy to refresh the aluminum with whatever.  Scotch bright pads maybe.
I'll polish aluminum but I never, ever paint it.  Not that I am saying to polish that block.  Too much work to get it right.
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: 4thgen57 on 2013-02-06 06:27
Its a 272, ECG casting on block with ECZ-G heads. This has puzzled me for a while.
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: sprink88 on 2013-02-06 18:19
I always thought the original colors were red or yellow?
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: Frankenstein57 on 2013-02-06 19:10
I painted the Y-block t-bird red, it leans toward orange. A couple of my GM buddies were calling it Chevy orange, so we compared the two colors. Its not that orange, Mark
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: 4thgen57 on 2013-02-06 21:24
I need to compare mine. It looks Orange to me. I will see if I can scan some pics of the engine after I degreased  it.
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: Tom S on 2013-02-06 23:17
Except for that damn aftermarket rocker arm oiler gizmo this looks stock & as I remember '56s & '57s.
Not sure on the valve cover color though.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/Ranchero/1957FordSHERIFFCAR3.jpg)
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: 57 Ford Kustom on 2013-02-07 04:59
Tom,   
   That oiler looks Hi Tech! I remember as a Kid my Dad would cut strips of a wool blanket, soak them in oil and lay them over the valves! LOl
Tim :unitedstates:
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-02-07 06:34
Man...you had it tough growing up...we've all heard stories about walking 2 miles thru 4 feet of snow to get to school, holes in shoes, etc......but wood blankets, and not even complaining about it..wow now that WAS tough.
LOL...sorry couldn't resist
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: lowrider on 2013-02-07 07:27
Quote from: 57 Ford Kustom on 2013-02-07 04:59
Tom,   
   That oiler looks Hi Tech! I remember as a Kid my Dad would cut strips of a wood blanket, soak them in oil and lay them over the valves! LOl
Tim :unitedstates:

I recall watching my Dad working on a 'squeaky" yblock rocker arm problem that needed an overhead oiler but the customer didnt have the money for the repair. I watched him take handfuls of grease (real grease, not that thin stuff they sell today) and pack both rocker assys with it. Car left quiet but I dont think it lasted too long.

The orange color was used 55-57. I see descriptions all over the board on that color. The colors differ as much as the description of them. I use paint from Mac's on mine. Curiously, if you peel back the Mac's sticker on the can it says Mopar orange. It seems to come the closest to what I recall so I'll stick with it. The "Ford red" seems too red to me.
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: gasman826 on 2013-02-07 08:34
...asking a lot from my memory!  My Dad bought my '57 new with a 272.  I remember the color being more red than the orange in the previous post.  We had Ford tractors and other Ford farm equipment and the accent color was a red that was very similar to the '57's engine color.  I use Ford implement red on my frame.  The picture shows how orange the implement red is against the red of the Lakewood bellhousing.
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: Tom S on 2013-02-07 09:38
Quote from: 57 Ford Kustom on 2013-02-07 04:59Tom,  That oiler looks Hi Tech!
Wood?  (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/lol.gif)   You mean wool blankets?   Laying on the rocker arm shaft?  (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/uhoh.gif)   I can just see that getting tangled up in the rockers.   Never heard of anyone doing that.
Those oiler kits sucked, especially so if someone didn?t do a good job of installing them in the first place.  Even then they still sucked & I am not the only one that thinks so.  The little copper lines would leak at the connections & they would also break & squirt lots of oil all over & empty the oil pan in short order.

There was one on a 57 Ranchero I had for a while as a kid.  That oiler thing was a constant problem.  Never was able or had the means to get it fixed right & never had anyone to help with it.
Car was eventually got totaled. (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/cry.gif)   Always had problems with it & it was a rust bucket covered with bondo & some fresh paint.  Guess I was a just a kid blinded by the flash.  Looked for another 57 Ranchero here for the next 49 years.
Always had all kinds of big troubles with any white car since & now avoid them like the plague.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/Ranchero/Konni-Ranchero1963-1.jpg)




Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: Tom S on 2013-02-07 09:45
Quote from: gasman826 on 2013-02-07 08:34I remember the color being more red than the orange in the previous post.
I agree, more red than orange.  Not nearly as red as the red in your pix though! I can't really see any difference between the frame & the bellhousing.
That's a damn nice frame!
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-02-07 09:53
Probably a difference in monitors. I can see the difference quite clearly on mine.
Tom....cute blond!
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: 57 Ford Kustom on 2013-02-07 15:36
Wood, wool, whats the difference, both keep you warm! But not as warm as that Blonde Tom!!! :003:
Tim :unitedstates:
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: robhaerr on 2013-02-07 16:18
I used Duplicolor Engine Enamel Ford Red (DE 1605 Ford Red) on Project 302.

Rob
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: gasman826 on 2013-02-07 17:52
That's it!
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-02-07 22:21
They were red from the factory with black valve covers. I think after time and heat they turned a little towards the orange side but not as orange as a Cheby. I've seen a lot with the overhead oiler kits, those things suck, they were a cheap easy mess. I've had fair success getting some of them to oil again and removed the kits..
Title: Re: Engine colour?
Post by: Limey57 on 2013-02-08 11:15
As always, thanks folks.