Well boys none of you know me other than a few messages, this has nothing to do with 57's, but it's time to vent. What in the world have we become, Dec 7th has come and gone and I saw only one small thing on Pearl Harbor. I don't watch much TV, but do like to catch a little news, I realize Nelson Mandella has done some great things and will be missed by most of his countrymen and others. Maybe its because of my military ties, or the fact that I am hard core american but Dec7, as well as 911 affected the lives of everyone in this country and should never be forgotten, it can happen again. It really dosen't take much air time to say thank you to those that have give it all so some dumb ass like me can vent.
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I didn't see anything on Dec 7 either. Saw something on facebook and that was it.
The only thing I saw was a few old movies about Pearl Harbor on TMC in recognition of Dec 7th. Bob
I shall never forget the sacrifice that our veterans have made and still are making for us. So many have made the supreme sacrifice.
What saddens me the most is the fact that there is a movement that is protesting our displaying our American flag.
How often do we hear of an old WWll veteran that proudly displays our flag and a neighbor is offended by it or when it flaps in the breeze it makes too much noise? Time after time the courts let them get away with it. The result is that they have to take it down.
In my family alone, six of my brothers served our country. Thank God that five came home alive. One came back home in a box.
I too noticed that there was hardly anything mentioned about Pearl Harbor on Dec.7.
WHAT IS HAPPENING?
We have a saying up here in the GREAT White North.......
"Either you stand Behind our Military or stand in Front of Them." :canada:
Most local and national news I saw only had a 15 sec blurb mentioning it. Just shows you how mainstream news is only concerned about sensationalism and is politically driven :005:.
I agree, same news reports here in the Midwest. Our Country is sure in a sad state. I do not argue politics, but I am here to tell you we need a new cowboy in a big white hat to ride into this circle!
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2013-12-10 06:54
"Either you stand Behind our Military or stand in Front of Them." :Canada:
Jeff
You've got that right. There is nothing that I can say to improve on that statement.
How true it is.
Jay
Wife's parents are in care facility, one of the other tenants is a Pearl Harbor Survivor has for years returned for a re-union. This year his doctors suggested he stay home. He's been in-out of the hospital so much this last year they figured he wouldn't survive the trip. He was still thinking of going but spent the 7th in the hospital. Don't think he's got much time left. Served 30 plus years in the Navy.
As a vet have seen a constant stream of broken promises and its really getting worse. Its not going to get any better anytime soon. As for the ''news'' it hasn't been news for quite some time it really should be called entertainment. I find better coverage from the BBC than NBC.
Zap- :unitedstates:
And just to clear it up Alvin you are not a dumb ass and please continue to vent.
I have long given up on the civilian population (non-servers) understanding or appreciating what the folks in the military do for them and for the nation. I suffered through the spitting and baby killer abuse at O'Hara during the late 60s and enjoyed the "you're a hero" after the Gulf War in 91. They tend to pay attention when something is going on that is on the hit parade, it is strictly a "politically correct" thing to do at the time....civilians don't understand some of the basic premises of leadership either. Those charged with protecting the general population should (and were in my time) be held to a higher standard. One of the key watch words for leaders is, "keep your own house in order", you can not lead and direct and mentor from a position below that of those you are charge with protecting. That applies to politicions, police, security personnel and the clergy! There is no such thing as "my personal life is separate from my professional life", decisions made on a personal basis reflect how decisions will be made in a professional situation. If you live your life in the radio world of WIIFM you will decide and react in that world!
I'm done now.....
Never served in that fashion,but never forgotten those who have and appreciate our opportunities.There was a big dropoff this year..not sure why.There is a lot of younger gen.with a basic lack of respect,whether its towards elders the law or life.Makes this club of all you...respecting the history of our classic "american" cars and our freedom a special thing.Right on to all the above!!! God bless America and our 57" fords.
Thanks guys for your support< we really need to get ahold of this before it gets any worse
Kruchef of Russia, back in the day said, I will get to America thru their children. Believe it or not
Quote from: 4banger on 2013-12-11 09:15
Kruchef of Russia, back in the day said, I will get to America thru their children. Believe it or not
He did.... infiltrated the universities and colleges with pro socialist profs.....from the mid 60's on.
A lot of those flag burning,draft dodging hippies become money grubbing yuppies in the 80's and 90's... now are head of of all those awesome corporations and massive unions that left the average joe ...... in the dirt.
Anyhow.... I support troops of the Land,sea and Air.
Looking at the positive side there are many who don't forget. Amtrak did a specialty paint scheme saluting our veterans earlier this year and had it on a "troop train" they ran to San Diego on the 7th.
Edit: Ooop's forgot the pictures, see next post
I wish more people would do things like this.
I think events like WWII should be remembered as something special. Something spectacular and not common place in history. Any war we commit American troops should be that way. With those participating declared as hero's. Not many people are around today that remember the sacrifices made or the moral obligation we had in fighting that war. Since WWII our commitment to war has been anything other than special other than the loss of life by the American Soldier. Still hero's but not as popular. Do you realize that almost two American Soldiers have lost their life every day since the World Trade buildings have went down. The people born during that time are in their mid teen's now. When an American Soldier loses his life it should be a horrific special event. It's turned into a common event. That's why they didn't show more respect for Dec. 7th. The people that do are becoming extinct, just like our old cars.
For me one of the scariest things is when large groups of politicians start wrapping themselves with the flag. That always is followed by our children dying in some hell hole that is suddenly vital to our national interests. Nothing will change unless we bring back the ''draft''. And bring it back with no deferments other than severe physical conditions. Really doubt that many in Congress have children in harms way at this time. They have shielded themselves from that risk and put the burden on everyone else.
Zap- :unitedstates:
Biden's son did a tour, senator from SC husband is there now, been some more, can't remember them now. We still need to remember it is an all volunteer force. Those of us that served under the "draft era" did so either by volunteering or being volunteered. What bites is all the promises made and broken for those that elected to become career, those that were wounded and those that were killed. It is interesting that there are more "training" deaths in the military overall then death due to mortal combat.
I believe in self governing, having said that, we need to take care of business with our sport/hobby, we need to take care of business with respect to the country and we need to take care of business in the rest of the world. If we don't take care of business ourselves someone else will do it for us and we most likely won't like the results. So do we need to be the "police" of the world, in a sense I believe we do because we sure run the risk of letting someone else do it for us and then complaining abou the results. Gets back to the politicians running to the "hot ticket" item, they are for it before they are against it.....
My dad was in the ARMY medical corps and arrived at Pearl Harbor three days after the attack. Though I never served I have nothing but respect for our military. I too was disappointed that not much attention is payed to the anniversary any more but it doesn't surprise me. The news media has an agenda and doesn't include teaching the next generation about history. So we will probably end up repeating it. Only thing is we could never do today what that generation did. We've lost the industrial base it would take to build the equipment. Not to mention the lack of selflessness it would take of the average person.
As far as our hobby goes I expect the EPA will outlaw old cars before its over.
Quote from: BAMA_57 on 2013-12-13 21:27
My dad was in the ARMY medical corps and arrived at Pearl Harbor three days after the attack. Though I never served I have nothing but respect for our military. I too was disappointed that not much attention is payed to the anniversary any more but it doesn't surprise me. The news media has an agenda and doesn't include teaching the next generation about history. So we will probably end up repeating it. Only thing is we could never do today what that generation did. We've lost the industrial base it would take to build the equipment. Not to mention the lack of selflessness it would take of the average person.
As far as our hobby goes I expect the EPA will outlaw old cars before its over.
Good post. I agree. We'd have to have China build our weapons. And with so many people on Social Security Disability we'd need China to fight the battles also.