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Title: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: Amblewagon on 2008-01-07 16:43
I generally don't post looking for someone online,but I'm running out of ideas,and I'm hoping someone on this site knows how to get in touch with him.I know Rick has had some serious bad luck the last few years with his wife then his heart attack,and I've been super understanding so far.I don't want to start a negitve post but would like to get ahold of him.I bought a complete deluxe steering kit and tilt coulum and stainless steel shaft and joints and mounts hoses ect ect along with a front sway bar.Basiclly 1500.00 worth of parts this is going back 15 months.I did finally get the brackets and the rack,back in May,but the rest is paid in full.His web site is no longer up and no phone response,if anyone has any info I would appreciate it.
Thanks Joe
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: briney on 2008-01-07 18:12
Joe,

Its sounds pretty bad and very disappointing... I'm sorry to hear that.  I hope you and all the others that have made purchases get your merchandise. 

I wonder were that leaves everyone for support?   :102:

Let me know if you get in touch with him.

Patrick / Dallas, TX  :unitedstates:
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: wolfpupsdad on 2008-01-07 18:16
took me just about a year to finally get all my parts and pieces from mr. worth-it. he'd send a fewparts here and there until i foinally got feed up with the no answering of e-mailsphonecalls and registered letters, i finally turned it over to the BBB and i guess they lite a fire under him. he called me and we worked out all the missing parts and they were sent.
all i can tell ya , is to hang in there and keep tring, or contact the BBB and file a complant.
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: KidKourier on 2008-01-08 00:32
JOE,  I've also been trying to get in touch with Rick to order his rack &front sway bar I liked the idea of a bolt in system and that some of our members have said it was a good kit. one afternoon about lunch time(Pacific Std.) I dialed his number(970-434-7123) and was suprised that he picked-up,after several weeks of trying,also left several messages on his web site(agin no response).He said he was just returning from Denver with his wife after her surgery and some rehab work on her leg and hip. He said he was returning to the shop to try to fill his backorders and that it was only him because he couldn't afford help because of the medical expenses and time away from the shop due to their medical appointments! I would have thought he would have up dated his website with an explanation,a working time line,or if he's going out of business and plan to fill his current orders or give back the money! While talking            to Rick he gave me an alternitive site(Ranchwagon@Bresnan.net) I think this is his personal site? I hope this helps,keep us posted on your quest, I don't want to wait a year for my order,or even place one if this is the way his Company does  business. Skip
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: KidKourier on 2008-01-08 01:58
  Don't bother going to Ranchwagon@Bresnan.net, it's also gone from site. I don't understand why a Business would intentionally mislead its customers and leave them hanging in the breeze without  informing them  especilly after so many have supported him in his endeavor! anybody having any info on this,please post! To the rest,good luck on your orders or returned payment.Now I will start looking for other alternatives for a rack for the Courier, any suggestions? SKIP
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: Amblewagon on 2008-01-08 11:13
I'm thinking I might be SOL!! Does anyone know if my credit card company would do anything given the long amount of time??I didn't want to be a jerk to Rick and threaten him,because of the the bad time he had been having.But now I'm feeling like I was just strung along,I kept getting promise after promise and all he had to do is call the companys and get my parts shipped direct.All I recived was a remanufactured rack and some brackets,I'm out alot of cash.I never had to deal with the BBB but I think I'm going to have to.
Joe
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: KidKourier on 2008-01-08 14:34
 Just a thought,  the guy that runs Drop'm & Stop'm brakes was a referral from Rick Wurth ,perhaps he has a number or web address for Rick that may still be good or have information on Rick's situation. Agin,this may be an avenue to persue for info and I believe there was talk on this site, maybe in the brake area,on Drop,s web connection. Skip
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: Amblewagon on 2008-01-08 16:07
Thats a great idea I did buy some stuff there too.Thanks
Joe
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: clubsedan on 2008-01-08 17:08
I too am in the same boat.  I ordered a rack and pinion kit in November of 2006 and only received the rack and brackets in May of 2007, but have not received any parts since (even though my credit card was charged the full amount before any of the parts shipped).  I know of all of the problems he had with his wife and of is heart attack.  I was sympathetic and let him string me along for a year :dumbass:, but I finally contacted the Better Business Bureau last week.  I haven't heard anything yet.  I feel very sorry for Rick, but believe he should not have charged my credit card in full until all of the parts were shipped.  I've given him plenty of opportunity to honor the transaction, if he had any intention of doing so, he would have done it by now or refunded my money.  Wes
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: DT 57 on 2008-01-08 18:43
Hello everyone out there. I too ordered rack and pinion steering, sway bars and steering column in September of 2007. I was charged and paid in the full the amount of $2500. I have not received any of my order. I too have tried reaching Rick via phone and email, with no reply. I too understood he was having some medical issues with his wife and then himself. I became very alarmed this weekend when his website disappeared. After reading all of your emails today I have contacted my credit card company (VISA) and they are putting through a dispute and they will be contacting Rich's bank. Luckily it is within the 120 days that Visa will make it good. I hate to do this, but I cannot afford to loose $2500!
Good luck to the rest of you hanging out there.

DT57
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: JPotter57 on 2008-01-08 19:50
I am sorry to hear all of this guys.  I know a lot of people had bought stuff from him, and I thought him to be a pretty up-front guy.  In fact, Legendary Fords, and Rod & Custom did pieces on his stuff, so I figured he was legit.  I guess all of us get bit once in a while.  Luckily, I dont have that kind of money to throw around, so I wouldnt have bought any of it.  I am one of those knuckle draggers who have to do everything themselves, or make do with what Henry provided, lol.  Keep at it, you may be able to get it resolved.
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: Amblewagon on 2008-01-09 22:44
His web site seems to be working again,geuess I'll keep trying.
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: wolfpupsdad on 2008-01-10 06:05
 thatsall ya really can do is keep tring. i would how ever report it to the BBB and get them involved , it was afterthat point that i recieved the bulk of my kit.
problems or ot, thats not the way to take care of business in my book. customers need to know whats going on with the product they have purchased.
if ya read the BBB reports on him you'll see this aint anything new , and no one has gott'n stiffed from him , just takes forever to get your kits. good luck. bill
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: Frankenstein57 on 2008-01-12 07:43
I guess the old saying about having good health really holds true here, his parts and projects look first rate. Lets hope he can pull it together. The post who was looking to buy a rack & pinion, Dearborn Classics offers a system- looks alot like ricks  good luck, Mark
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: dav on 2008-01-20 18:35
Just wondering all of you that have been doing business with Mr. Wurth have his address RIGHT?.  There must be someone from 57fordsforever that may live near him maybe they could take a drive to his home and then just maybe we will all find out what is going on with the bussiness. Im not trying to be a smart A  just trying to help everyone out.
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: wolfpupsdad on 2008-01-20 18:51
  if ya want my opinion ithink he's in money trouble, little one horse business like his don't usually have health insurence and with his wifes medical problems now his , i wouldn't be surprise if he's taking our money to get medical bills paid off and creditors off his back. bad business pratice , but i've seen it before , robbing peter to pay paul.
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: Amblewagon on 2008-01-21 10:00
I think your 100% right on that.I did file with the BBB over two weeks ago still NO PARTS.This is what you get for being nice and understanding these days.HAGD
Joe
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: wolfpupsdad on 2008-01-21 11:36
 hang in there joe, if he comes threw with you like he did with me , you'll get your stuff , a few pieces at a time. took me almost a year after i order it til i got everything.
i almost made a trip out there and parked myself on his door step with the wifex appproval, lol
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: KidKourier on 2008-01-28 14:37
  I still like the idea of a bolt in rack/pinion kit so I went to Rick Wurth's web site to see if there was any up dates on his site, there wasn't any new information on his status! So I called the number listed(970-434-7123) SURPRISE, it's been disconnected. Then I called 411 for information on a possible number change, no number of any kind for Rick or his business. So is he out of business, taking a break due to his medical condition, or has he passed away? Any body out there got any inside info? Do any of you still have the instructions that came with the kit showing how to install it?  If so,please get in touch with me as I would like to see if I could duplicate it for my own kit for my Courier, It has a rack installed but has so much bumpstear that it get's scary sometimes.If anybody has any suggestions as to a kit you've used or recommend I,m open. The rack hangs below the engine crossmember and the arms go up at an angle insted of being level with the rack.  Thanks for any help, I don't like the idea of cutting off the frame and adding a stub to the front (Fatman's) so I may have to go with a system from Heights or Scotts. Thanks SKIP
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: Amblewagon on 2008-01-28 15:12
Well that blows,I looked back at my credit card bill and it wasn't 1500.00 like I thought it was 2200.00 now I'm really pissed,I'm ready to drive to Colorado and start knocking on doors.Skip if you lived closer you could copy what I have,I think I have the instructions I look when I get some time.
Joe
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: wolfpupsdad on 2008-01-28 15:34
 that does suck joe. if your with in 120 days from your purchase date you can get a charge back on your credit card. and if not then ya might think about getting a lawyer and everyone still missing parts or not even there kits, file a law suit.
personally i like the idea of making a trip and parking myselfon his door step, which idid think about , then all my parts showed up on my doorstep. ido have his address from the shipping label if ya need it joe.
  bill
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: KidKourier on 2008-01-28 20:32
Thanks Joe! If you find them and  could shoot me a copy I'd appriciate it, there might be enough info to fab up a kit for my 57. If not , I'll go to Plan B ??? or throw on a pair of Depends and drive her any ways(ooh,E-ticket ride all the way,LOL).  Thanks again for your help and good luck to all that are still waiting for parts!  SKIP
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: cool57 on 2008-01-28 21:05
Maybe some of the talented guys on this board will come up with a R&P design, or bracket patterns and parts list?
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: fordub on 2008-01-29 10:42
HI Guys,
I have a manufacturing company in Placerville California. A real company in business for 17 years. we make all sorts of products mostly in the Automation industries. You can check us out at  www.technavibes.com (http://www.technavibes.com)  and my other company www.highnoonproducts.com (http://www.highnoonproducts.com) . Also I belong to the Thunderbolts in Sacramento the Oldest continuous meeting hot rod club in the nation 63 years now. I do the website for them and you can check out my 58 at www.capitolautoclub.com  (http://www.capitolautoclub.com) I am currently working on a kit for my 57 Ranch Wagon which once I have patterns can be reproduced quite easily. If anybody has info on the rack Rick used or anything else that can be helpful I would certainly appreciate it. If not there is no worries it will just take a little longer. Once I have it done I will post pics on the web and pricing. I am sure my prices will be less than Ricks as I am a real manufacturer. Also I would never bill a crredit card until the order was sent. I believe that is an illegal practice (very least unethical}. Let me know your thoughts if anybody would like me to persue this for them.
My info is on my all of my websites
Dub
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: bagboy on 2008-01-29 11:02
Hi all, I have had bad luck with GEARHEADS CRUSIER PRODUCTS,and Rick Wurth saved my bacon.While I belive GEARHEADS are a stone cold ripoff,Rick is not.My wagon drives good.I will mail a letter to him.
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: cool57 on 2008-01-29 14:37
Quote from: fordub on 2008-01-29 10:42
HI Guys,
I have a manufacturing company in Placerville California. A real company in business for 17 years. we make all sorts of products mostly in the Automation industries. You can check us out at  www.technavibes.com (http://www.technavibes.com)  and my other company www.highnoonproducts.com (http://www.highnoonproducts.com) . Also I belong to the Thunderbolts in Sacramento the Oldest continuous meeting hot rod club in the nation 63 years now. I do the website for them and you can check out my 58 at www.capitolautoclub.com  (http://www.capitolautoclub.com) I am currently working on a kit for my 57 Ranch Wagon which once I have patterns can be reproduced quite easily. If anybody has info on the rack Rick used or anything else that can be helpful I would certainly appreciate it. If not there is no worries it will just take a little longer. Once I have it done I will post pics on the web and pricing. I am sure my prices will be less than Ricks as I am a real manufacturer. Also I would never bill a crredit card until the order was sent. I believe that is an illegal practice (very least unethical}. Let me know your thoughts if anybody would like me to persue this for them.
My info is on my all of my websites
Dub

Sunchero is really cool! what's the story on it's build?
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: fordub on 2008-01-29 15:01
I found the Ranchero at one of my employees uncles house and thought it was cool so I gave him 1500 bucks and if went downhill from there. while replacing some rust with some patch panels I just got a wild hair and cut the roof off of it. I really didn't even know how I was going to finish off the roof but then I found a convertible windshield frame and stainless. Piece of cake. 428 Police intercepter tubbed rear end, just -can't -seem -to -stop- spending-must-stop-soon  NAAHH
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh134/fordub/stufftosell07028.jpg)
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh134/fordub/Photo0050.jpg)

Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: cool57 on 2008-01-29 19:15
Quote from: fordub on 2008-01-29 15:01
I found the Ranchero at one of my employees uncles house and thought it was cool so I gave him 1500 bucks and if went downhill from there. while replacing some rust with some patch panels I just got a wild hair and cut the roof off of it. I really didn't even know how I was going to finish off the roof but then I found a convertible windshield frame and stainless. Piece of cake. 428 Police intercepter tubbed rear end, just -can't -seem -to -stop- spending-must-stop-soon  NAAHH
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh134/fordub/stufftosell07028.jpg)
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh134/fordub/Photo0050.jpg)



More pics!!
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: dgasman on 2008-01-30 12:38
The rack that is used is a center steer Cavalier rack late 80s mid 90s . The napa part # for these racks are NRP 22140 and NRP 22108 . the price range is about $114 to $157. This is a very easy kit to replicate .

That is a real nice 58 you have there
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: Amblewagon on 2008-02-12 22:58
Well the BBB didn't work,they got no response from Mr Wurth,so now it looks like I have to spend more money (lawyer)to try to get back the money I already spent,all because some dip stick didn't have proper insurance I'm aussuming.Man I'm besides my self,car guys are supposed to be cool.
Joe
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: wolfpupsdad on 2008-02-13 06:50
 joe , before ya go laying out money for a lawyer , might be worth thinking about making a trip to colorado.
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: rockymountaincustom on 2008-02-14 20:47
I also ordered a rack system along with a steering column about 6 months ago and never received it. I let my credit card company now about it and received a refund about a month later. I would have rather got the parts but I think something happened to rick. He had 40 days to contest the refund and never herd any thing. When I am finished building my own rack system I will also post pictures. I have the bare frame sitting on the shop floor so I will have some very good pictures of the brackets. I found the article in custom rodder of ricks system and ordered the rack he used, but have another idea banging around in my head that might work a little better, specially if you are using air bags and plan to lower your car.
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: johns2000 on 2008-02-15 19:24
Just noticed Rick's website back up and running but the emails I send just come back as undeliverable??
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: briney on 2008-02-26 15:09
I hear crickets...

Any other updates on Rick..?

I looks like a lot of people got screwed.

Good luck with any support from him..

Patrick / Dallas, TX   :unitedstates:
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: Amblewagon on 2008-02-26 17:31
I filed a complaint with the Federal trade commison,it's supposed to be higher up than the BBB.I have not talked to my laywer YET.I'm still just steaming about this whole deal.
HAGD Joe
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: briney on 2008-02-27 12:13
Thanks for the update.

I hope you get your money back.

The whole situation is pretty unprofessional.

Patrick / Dallas   :unitedstates:
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: Amblewagon on 2008-02-28 12:20
Thanks!!Check his website,it's slightly different than it was.The info about his heart attack is gone and so is the phone #.I'm hoping he's going to post a new # but thats wishful thinking.HAGD Joe
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: gregyoung on 2008-04-27 22:41
To all you people who have paid for things join the club.Finally after years of ringing and emails i got hold of him and he s wife has left him sorry to say and is going into brankruptsy and shifting to L A.What a same because hes product works great
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: KidKourier on 2008-04-28 19:43
Hey fellas,  Rick Wurth is up and running , he started building racks again as of May 31st--2008 in Escondido,Ca. just before San Diego. He redid his web page and the phone # listed is his new and currant #, also he address this forum about his health and business problems in Colorado if you check out the past posts. In it he stated that anybody who was missing parts or money to please contact him at the new #, he didn't get into business to rip people off! I'm not banging the drum for Rick, but after a messy devorice myself, I know s_ _ t can happen! I've been in touch with Rick last week about ordering a rack system for my car, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and see where it goes, he's only "1" hr. away if it goes south! Remember Boyd Cottington went bankrupt on his wheel business and look how that turned out. Anyway, I'll keep you posted with Rick and his rack/my car.  SKIP
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: Amblewagon on 2008-04-29 09:34
Yes I talked to him a little over three weeks ago and he explained the whole ordeal.I was promised my parts in two weeks,still waiting.I'm sure he has quite a hole to dig out of,so I have my fingers crossed.I was glad to have contact with him at least,I'll let everyone know if I get my parts.
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: Amblewagon on 2008-05-13 14:07
UPDATE,well after close to two years I got my parts!!!!!The only thing I'm waiting on is the front sway bar and Rick says it will be shipped.So far so good.I feel bad for everything thats happend to him.I just wish he would have made a few phone calls to keep all of us updated.I was pulling my hair out.lol So I hope everyone else gets there stuff,it sure looks like he's trying to get everyone taking care of.
Joe
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: wolfpupsdad on 2008-05-13 16:30
 2 YEARS????? DAMN AND I THOUGHT I WAS INPATIENT WITH WAITING ALMOST 1 YEAR, LOL.
i agree a few phone calls would have saved alot of business for rick but glad you got your stuff.
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: DanTudor57 on 2008-05-14 02:51
I'll have to call rick for details on these airbag mods..

if anyone has a rack with the mods, I'd like to see some pictures..
Title: Re: Rick Wurth???????????????
Post by: KidKourier on 2008-05-14 19:15
DanTudor57,  The only one that has these mods to Rick,s rack is custom57 (see gallery pictures) as far as I know, I ordered one from Rick with the changes for air bags Monday but have no confirmed delivery date(he left for Colorado today for a week to bring back more tools and equipment) so custom57 could give you the info on changes and maybe some pics of his?  SKIP :006: