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Title: more goodies
Post by: 62galxe on 2014-02-22 19:55
I think this is going to look good on my 390 in the wagon. super deal at the swap meet today.
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/62galxe/carbs.jpg) (http://s39.photobucket.com/user/62galxe/media/carbs.jpg.html)
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Post by: sprink88 on 2014-02-22 20:48
Nice. I would love to get my hands on one of those too!
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Post by: SkylinerRon on 2014-02-22 23:22
Get genuine Holley kits for them.

Ron.
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Post by: ragtop on 2014-02-22 23:59
are the carbs the big block carbs or the small block carbs I sold the small carbs for as much as a compleat big block setup gos for
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Post by: 62galxe on 2014-02-23 05:35
Don't know the difference between small block and big block carbs. These are AU and AV carbs.
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Post by: hiball3985 on 2014-02-23 06:52
I love the old FE tri-powers, did it come with the air cleaner and fuel log? I wish I hadn't sold mine at times. I noticed the center carb has a fitting in the vacuum port, hard telling what it was used for over the years but the 390/406 had a dual point non vacuum advance distributor.
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Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2014-02-23 11:10
Damn Straight.

Killer.
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Post by: 62galxe on 2014-02-23 11:34
vacuum fitting surprised me also. Maybe a different metering block was used. biggest problem is no kickdown provisions for auto trans.
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Post by: hiball3985 on 2014-02-23 11:46
Quote from: 62galxe on 2014-02-23 11:34
vacuum fitting surprised me also. Maybe a different metering block was used. biggest problem is no kickdown provisions for auto trans.
You can plug the port just like the outer two. HP390, 406 never came with auto trans so there is no factory linkage available.
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Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2014-02-23 11:46
I believe none of any tripowers in early FE setups were automatics.Only stick.
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Post by: 62galxe on 2014-02-23 12:27
That was why this guy got rid of the tri power setup. couldn't stand manually shifting his automatic. Now to find those galaxie buckets and console.
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Post by: RICH MUISE on 2014-02-23 12:51
Nice score. What swap meet? I was at the Decatur meet yesterday.
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Post by: dgasman on 2014-02-23 13:16
Nice find. There was one factory tri power manifold with provisions for the kick down linkage  it was on the Tbird. In the late 60s ford did have a over the counter trans kick down set up for that manifold , they are hard to find today. You can use lokar cables for the kick down and they look good and work good.
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Post by: wildhog on 2014-02-23 16:18
I had a 62 Thunderbird M series 390 Tri power automatic.
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Post by: 57 Ford Kustom on 2014-02-23 16:28
Pic's of my 64' galaxie buckets, and console
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Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2014-02-23 16:31
Quote from: wildhog on 2014-02-23 16:18
I had a 62 Thunderbird M series 390 Tri power automatic.

I was forgetting about the early birds Tom, Just had my mind on the 406 packages.Were not all 406 packages a stick version?
Yes,the Bird 390's had a auto.
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Post by: 62galxe on 2014-02-23 16:46
Rich it was at Decatur swap meet. With the price of used tri powers sitting at $2000 I was thinking of a new one from HP trends. Reconditioned intake and new everything else new was only $2600 if I remember correctly. 57 ford kustom that interior looks good. Im hoping the buckets will look that good in a wagon.
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Post by: hiball3985 on 2014-02-23 17:05
Quote from: dgasman on 2014-02-23 13:16
Nice find. There was one factory tri power manifold with provisions for the kick down linkage  it was on the Tbird. In the late 60s ford did have a over the counter trans kick down set up for that manifold , they are hard to find today. You can use lokar cables for the kick down and they look good and work good.
Thats interesting I had never seen one for an auto before, I didn't know any of the Birds had tri power.
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Post by: 62galxe on 2014-02-23 17:31
Im no expert but the birds had different intakes. all 3 carbs are at the same elevation. regular intakes were at a angle.
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Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2014-02-23 18:10
Jim,I believe 61-62 Birds had the 390 tri-power option.
Not sure about 63.
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Post by: dgasman on 2014-02-23 18:14
Yes the Tbird had the carbs all on the same plain and they also had used a different vacuum location for the pcv .
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Post by: hiball3985 on 2014-02-23 18:21
I never really paid attention to Birds back in the 60's. I see the auto set up also has an anti-stall dashpot set up, something else I had never seen. I'll bet these are really rare.
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Post by: hiball3985 on 2014-02-23 18:41
I found some snapshots of my tri-power set up. I bought it for $125 and sold it a few years later for $250  :005:
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Post by: electricalan on 2014-02-23 19:17
Looking at the 64 galaxie buckets and console in this post.Can any of you guys tell me if the 65 galaxie was the same,and would go into my ranchero. Thanks Al
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Post by: 57 Ford Kustom on 2014-02-24 05:41
I believe that Ford changed in 65', the 64' I have in my car I believe ran 63-64 mdl years. I have seen a lot of Falcon consoles stuck in between galaxie buckets. But, it doesn't stretch forward. the total lenth of my console is 47.5"
Tim :unitedstates:
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Post by: VwDrvFnd on 2014-02-24 10:47
Nice looking Buckets and console! Is that console out of a galaxy as well? I am putting 64 T-bird buckets in my Ranchero not sure sure if i am going to use the stock t-bird seat sliders or get some aftermarket ones. The stock sliders look like they lean the seats way back at a funny angle. Did you have to do anything special to mount the Galaxy seat to the floor board?
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Post by: 57 Ford Kustom on 2014-02-24 15:50
The console is 64 galaxie also, I had to add a couple extra holes for the track. The one thing you should do(that I didn't) is on the rear of the track you should put a piece of flat stock in between the two back holes on the track, so you can relocate the outer mounting hole location inward. because guess where it falls, right over the frame!
Tim :unitedstates:
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Post by: VwDrvFnd on 2014-02-24 16:25
Did you feel like you needed to add any extra plate to the floor or is it thick enought to carry the load?


Quote from: 57 Ford Kustom on 2014-02-24 15:50
The console is 64 galaxie also, I had to add a couple extra holes for the track. The one thing you should do(that I didn't) is on the rear of the track you should put a piece of flat stock in between the two back holes on the track, so you can relocate the outer mounting hole location inward. because guess where it falls, right over the frame!
Tim :unitedstates:
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Post by: gasman826 on 2014-02-24 16:50
Other than upholstery, '64-66 Thunderbird seats are the same or very similar to '64 Galaxies.  When I did my floors, aftermarket floor braces were not available.  So I made floor braces and located them to align with Thunderbird buckets.  Bolting them to just the floor may create a tin can effect.
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Post by: 57 Ford Kustom on 2014-02-24 17:53
Gasman is right, if you just bolted them to the floor it will feel like you are buckling the floor every time you move in the seat!
Tim :unitedstates:
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Post by: electricalan on 2014-02-24 19:00
Thanks for the response,I was only bringing up the 65 galaxie because I found seats and console for sale in perfect condition and thought if they were just like yours i should grab them.
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Post by: VwDrvFnd on 2014-02-25 09:21
I am definitally plan to use some type of slider or bracket under the seat. I am just not sure the floor sheet metal by it self is enough to support the bracket and seat. I have seen guys weld in extra plates to help hold eveything down better. My objective is to get the seats as low as possible so i can get my fat gut behind the steering wheel.

Quote from: 57 Ford Kustom on 2014-02-24 17:53
Gasman is right, if you just bolted them to the floor it will feel like you are buckling the floor every time you move in the seat!
Tim :unitedstates:
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Post by: RICH MUISE on 2014-02-25 10:11
VW.....I forget what they call this stuff...unistrut I think. Electrical dept. at Lowe's/home depot. cheap, versatile, assorted hardware and brackets available, rugged, did I mention cheap?
I didn't mention not pretty...I still have to make some covers for them.
and I forgot to mention the channel is available in an even shorter height. If you needed more height, you could stack two, bolting and welding together. This is the stuff they use to hang heavy overhead stuff off the rafters..air conditioning, heaters, etc. Heavy gauge channel, most of the hardware is 1/4" steel.
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Post by: dgasman on 2014-02-25 14:07
The 65 seats are the same , the console is different , it's more sleek  but it would still work and look good. The seats from 64 thru 66 are the same shell from a Tbird or a Galaxie . The 67 - 69 are similar but the backs are a little taller, if you can buy them at a good price I would do it. In the LA area you can pick up good core seats (need reupholstery) for around $100.00 a pair, and some may be power. I picked up my power driver seat for $65.00 and it works and almost looked new.
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Post by: 57 Ford Kustom on 2014-02-25 15:38
Thanks for correcting me on that, I was thinking console change, but the seats for some reason never crossed my mine in my response.
Tim :unitedstates:
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Post by: 62galxe on 2014-02-25 19:43
better lucky than good has worked again. Didn't realize how much there is to know about tri powers. I have correct float bowls, metering blocks, carb bodies. Center bowl float level hole is higher than other two. End carb main bodies airhorn not drilled for choke shaft. End carbs metering blocks have no provision for power valves. Been searching for info for hours. Funny thing is you couldn't make me study in school and yet I spend hours researching car stuff. It also appears that there is no ported vacuum. All the holes and passages are there but one. The base plate is not drilled. Looks like those plugs and fittings aren't doing much.
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Post by: BWhitmore on 2014-02-25 20:36
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Post by: electricalan on 2014-02-25 22:00
 Dgasman,Thank you thats what I wanted to know.The ones I found had been restored and project cancelled.The seats are done in red,which happens to match my rancheros red/white interior.Now to see what I can get them for.
                                                                     Thanks again AL