I was just reading about the 57 with the Edsel nose on it and noticed this quote
" The 58 Ed wgn rear bumper is the 57 Ford wgn mounted upside down!".
Someone told me at a car cruise that mine looks like it is upside down.
Since there are no 57s around here to compare mine to. I'll just ask the experts.
I took this rear bumper off of my 58 Ranchero many years ago and put it away. So my question is did I install it on my 57 Ford upside down?
Thank you for your answers. Jay
Nope...it's right...but that's from someone with NO bumper, lol. Your "dip" for the license plate is on the top side as it should be, and the ends where it wraps around the side are pointing upwards, following the upwards lines of the rear quarter.
Jay, are there some filled or unfilled holes for the bumperettes now on the bottom of the bumper ? I too noticed that on the Edsel thread and wondered how it would look. My rear bumper has damage from a jack so its a no-brainer how it goes.
Zap- :unitedstates:
Bumper looks right, but it seems to set higher up then many other customs. The character line of the quarter panel is usually about even with the top of the bumper, and the gap between the license tag and the bumper seems close. Thats what it looks like from the photos. Great looking car.
I've posted pictures of my bumper before, had the ends tucked in a bit before the chroming. Guys would ask if it was upside down or if it was even the right bumper for the car. No questions since.
Still cant figure out how to post more then one picture, even though I've had it explained to me by a few people on this site. I wanted to do a side by side.
Thanks guys... That's what i wanted to hear.
Zap... That one does have some extra holes for the Ranchero hardware. I just put SS bolts in them to fill them in. Decided to use that one because it was in better condition than mine.
Pat ... That's an early picture. The license plate assembly has since been adjusted. Thanks for the nice comment.
Rich ... The lic plate dip on the top was my deciding factor when installing it.
Donnie... I'm not good at explaining how to post more than one picture. It might be best to have Jeff just show you how to do it and take notes.
Jay
I've gotten that comment a bunch of times, even from my painter
That's why mine doesn't have one. LOL. Always thought it never quite looked right from the side. From the back they look alright, but I think it took me about 8 years to figure out what they were trying to do was follow the body lines over the rear wheel well.
Donnie your pics are too big..they need to be downsized as there is a 4k max per post, and yours are over half that, which is why it won't take more than one per post. your first pic is 1800+ and your second pic is 2200+...those +'s put it over a total of 4000
Thanks Rich! I think you were the one that told me that last time. I have some new pictures of my car I'd like to post, maybe after work I will do that and make them smaller. HRD
HRD your bumper is what Ford should have built in the first place. Nicely tucked in not hanging out waiting to grab your leg everytime you walk around the car. Well done!
Zap- :unitedstates:
Quote from: Zapato on 2014-08-05 10:05
HRD your bumper is what Ford should have built in the first place. Nicely tucked in not hanging out waiting to grab your leg everytime you walk around the car. Well done!
Zap- :unitedstates:
Donnie's rear bumper looks real cool. It took some thinking, planning, and and some work.
I bet that no one is going to get his leg caught on Rich's back bumper.
If you ever see an Edsel wgn check out the cool rear bumperguard.
A friend of mine has a 58 Edsel 2dr wgn with overdrive, very rare.
Ron.
I like that bumper guard, is it standard on all Edsels ? Know a guy that parts out Edsels should give him a call.
Zap- :unitedstates:
Quote from: Zapato on 2014-08-05 23:58
I like that bumper guard, is it standard on all Edsels ? Know a guy that parts out Edsels should give him a call.
Zap- :unitedstates:
No, just 1958 wagons.
If I were to build an original 57 I wouldn't have made any changes to the bumpers, but obviously I've made a lot of changes what's a few more. I did keep the noisy hood hinges! HRD
Quote from: Zapato on 2014-08-05 23:58
I like that bumper guard, is it standard on all Edsels ? Know a guy that parts out Edsels should give him a call.
Zap- :unitedstates:
I'm not going to make any changes, but sure would like to see one of those bumper guards that you are talking about.
I never found what he was talking about either.
Well that makes at least two of us that don't know what it looks like.
generally speaking, IMO the custom or wagon/ranchero rear bumper has great design and looks way better than the Fairlane overriders style. the reveal in the bumper looks terrific. also the license plate recess. But yes the big gap looking from front to back is annoying. HRD did a great job BEFORE plating. I purchased fresh bumpers so no way to do this mod before. I plan to build some extra stainless corners for those gaps, much like an overrider post would look on a 55 Ford front or accessory gravelguards and stuff like that. this should help.
There are some highly modified Kustom buildt 57s out there with reversed bumpers, but they look stupid to me. it is exactly the factory bumpers, getting wider at the bottom, that make the solid look of a 57 I think. It ties them more to the ground. I will drop my front bumper about 3/4 of an inch or so to get it even with the front splash panel.
Jay, since your car is all original, the bumper looks great as is :002:
did they really bolt them upside down on the 58 Edsel ??
look here, that is just your stock 57 bumper.
I think this is the bumper guard they were refering to
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/9b/35/35/9b35357163a4ccc84dc2ce40927916d6.jpg)
great looking wagon also
it's interesting how the 58 Edsel was obviously based on the 57 Ford models, all the roof and tailgates, everthing looks to be 57 stuff
Jay did your business model even come with any bumper guards? even that should've been a factory delete ?!
The detail on that wagon you just don't see anymore. Cars and music from the past are all different in their own way and can be separated, today cars and music all look and sound the same.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2014-08-07 03:49
look here, that is just your stock 57 bumper.
I think this is the bumper guard they were refering to
Jay did your business model even come with any bumper guards? even that should've been a factory delete ?!
Günter
Thanks for posting that Edsel bumper guard picture. Now I know what it looks like.
I'm pretty sure that they all came with bumper guards. Jay
yes you are so right. we can't turn back time, and today's wealth and freedom sure feels good, but concerning diversity and
beauty in detail, todays world is lacking so much, it's true. especially when taking part in a vintage car or rod run and when you see all those old cars in front of you, and then again you see the modern cars, you come to understand how ugly and plain those are. the LED taillights, plastic bumpers and all...it is just disgusting in direct comparison to chromed taillight bezels, bumper guards, tank fillers and little glass windows of the old cars. let's not start talking todays music or I'll have to throw up... :002:
The Edsel wagon pictured, while IMHO it is not the cleanest looking car with all those add ons, but it sure looks striking to me. When you see what they came up with only adding to the 57 Ford wagon. the color combo is fantastic and I love the liftgate molding and rear bumper guard. will put those on my Del Rio, even if the tailgate molding says Edsel on it :003: it just says KUSTOM KOOL to me.
Quote from: hotroddonnie on 2014-08-07 05:14
The detail on that wagon you just don't see anymore. Cars and music from the past are all different in their own way and can be separated, today cars and music all look and sound the same.
is that a real vent under the liftgate glass or a dummy like on the 558 Impala?
Zap- :unitedstates:
It is just a trim piece with the "Edsel" letters. All 58s had this finish detail, wagons on the lift gate and the rest of the line on the trunk lid.
this is the liftgate trim piece. I just purchased it off ebay.
(http://up.picr.de/19150481nx.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/19150482si.jpg)
maybe I'll grind down the EDSEL letters and put some stars or stainless bars instead. would be a great idea to make it a real vent, but will be difficult to seal it against rain/high pressure washing.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2014-08-08 09:39
this is the liftgate trim piece. I just purchased it off ebay.
maybe I'll grind down the EDSEL letters and put some stars or stainless bars instead. would be a great idea to make it a real vent, but will be difficult to seal it against rain/high pressure washing.
Günter
That was fast work locating the piece. Give it some serious thought before you alter it. Why not use as it is? Jay
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2014-08-08 18:53
Günter
That was fast work locating the piece. Give it some serious thought before you alter it. Why not use as it is? Jay
yes, in the beginning I didn't think that I would be able to find this piece in a short time and reasonable price. I was lucky though.
I usually build my cars rather in a clean look and I am the guy to remove some small badges or trim, but I just loved that liftgate trim on the Edsel from first seeing it. as Zap stated, looks like a vent. I can't have it on the wagon during vehicle inspection or they will give me trouble for not believing it's a Ford wagon, when there is an Edsel badge on it...you already know our strict inspection stuff. Can add it after inspection. But it would be great if the center piece would say 'Del Rio', maybe I have something laser cut from stainless steel. It would make a terrific third brake light, if the cut out Del Rio letters were backlighted... But that is the least of my problems with the wagon right now :002: :005:
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2014-08-09 02:45
But that is the least of my problems with the wagon right now :002: :005:
Günter
You don't need to give those crazy inspectors in your country something to make into a big problem, and you know that they will.
I'll get get that measurement today for you. Jay