Found this pic in the Gallery of Jerry's classic cars. It is in a group of original Ford photographs. Check out the date on the placard. I wish there were other pics of this design, and sure glad they made the changes they did.
Check out the Mercury-like bumper, and the '57 Chevy-like hood bullets. Interesting gizmo on the passenger side roof/windshield....A/C?
horribly heavy front bumper, looks like this imfluenced the 57-58 mercury and edsel. am also glad they went with a much cleaner look. its almost like on guy designed the body, another the grille and another the bumper.
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do you have a link to that site?
It's in our links list..... www.jerrysclassiccars.com
I also noticed they have the paint codes listed for 57-59 with Dupont, dizzler, ppg, ect matching codes. Hmmm. I should post a link to those on our technical info links board
I sure am glad that it never happened.
That car looks like a "test mule" with facades hiding the actual styling details. Cool pic.
Thank God we didn't end up with a design like that. The picture on the back wall almost looks like some kind of window van.....
Well if they had built the 57 that way then I guess this site would not exist! And the 57 Chev would have out sold the 57 Ford. Our lives would be a lot different today, who knows where we'd be, this could have changed everything! My Gasser would have been just a dream.
Very interesting photos.
Trying to decipher the engine here,Fuel injection?I see Offy or Moon breathers,But the rad Hoses are throwing me off.
Test Mules,right Jay!
Love Factory secrets.At the time they were very hush hush,then long forgotten,now a mystery.
Funny how we look at different things..this one caught my eye this morning...maybe the back end of the wagon I posted.
Jerry's classic cars....I wanted to spotlight part of their introductory statement:
We also straighten and polish stainless. We can weld holes, take out dents and dings and restore your stainless to show quality! Need chrome work done? Look no further, we have our own in house chrome shop! We have a very quick turn around time and can refinish all of your steel or pop medal products to show quality."
If my wife and I ever get to take our wanted vacation in Branson, Misouri, I've gotta go see this place. They are about an hour south of Branson. I can't believe I missed a golden oportunity to visit them this past summer when I was in Springdale for a week helping my wife's cousin with some rental property...and spending most of that week twiddling my thumbs waiting on workers to get stuff done. It was the week after I got back that I found out we were only a few miles from them in the same town!!
Not sure about this though...they restore "pop medal"?? lol
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2015-01-28 06:56
Very interesting photos.
Trying to decipher the engine here,Fuel injection?I see Offy or Moon breathers,But the rad Hoses are throwing me off.
Test Mules,right Jay!
Love Factory secrets.At the time they were very hush hush,then long forgotten,now a mystery.
I can't figure it out. Are my eyes playing tricks? Is that a 6 volt battery? six volt is what they had in 1955.
obviously a short throat Fuel injection. If you look closely Jay, you can see the dual twin intakes of the passenger side, that are 45? inclined towards the engine center line. on the drivers side you can make out another 2x2 throttle valves below the breathers. what's with the dual radiator hoses ?
Judging by the the stacked intake throats it should be a Y block ?!? the car in the engine pic must be a production model. look how refined the inner hood structure is. I wouldn't think it would look like that by 1955.
VERY interesting pics. I am just stunned how finished the front headlight/hood/grill section looked in September 1955. that is 1 year ahead of production time. WOW !
I love info like that, thanx for posting Rich.
2x2s...Webers...maybe
dual radiator hoses like a flathead...mechanical water pump eliminated?
Quote from: gasman826 on 2015-01-28 17:00
2x2s...Webers...maybe
I don't think they'd be under the valve cover breathers. and they wouldn't be inclined on 45 degrees.
maybe something like a dual exit hi flow water pump ?
found this on the net
(http://www.macsmotorcitygarage.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/1957-Ford-clay-scale-model.jpg)
is that the prototype rear or Edsel stuff?
looks like a 57 wgn project in the background
(http://www.macsmotorcitygarage.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/1959EdselStyling018.jpg)
Thats Edsel.I would gone to heaven to work in that Dept.I have one of those desks here in the studio.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2015-01-28 16:52
obviously a short throat Fuel injection. If you look closely Jay, you can see the dual twin intakes of the passenger side, that are 45? inclined towards the engine center line. on the drivers side you can make out another 2x2 throttle valves below the breathers. what's with the dual radiator hoses ?
Judging by the the stacked intake throats it should be a Y block ?!? the car in the engine pic must be a production model. look how refined the inner hood structure is. I wouldn't think it would look like that by 1955.
VERY interesting pics. I am just stunned how finished the front headlight/hood/grill section looked in September 1955. that is 1 year ahead of production time. WOW !
I love info like that, thanx for posting Rich.
Good call on the injector setup, I can make it out it now.
Hilborn injectors. They didn't have a water log crossover.
Run a hose from each head to the radiator.
Probably Moon breathers, too old for much else.
Could be a Daytona or Bonneville car.
Great history!
Ron.
Yes hillborn injectors. Here's a pic of what they look like
absolutely gorgeous setup. were they successfull ? Did the Daytona T birds have FI ?
Jeff, it is overwhelming to think about those designers, who were creating in the day, what is considered absolutely classic today.
It's often fun to ask the 'what if' questions. what if they did that different, or chose the other style in the project.
I'd love to see that rear bumper in the Edsel project pic on my 57 wgn.
Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2015-01-29 09:02
absolutely gorgeous setup. were they successfull ? Did the Daytona T birds have FI ?
Jeff, it is overwhelming to think about those designers, who were creating in the day, what is considered absolutely classic today.
It's often fun to ask the 'what if' questions. what if they did that different, or chose the other style in the project.
I'd love to see that rear bumper in the Edsel project pic on my 57 wgn.
Agreed djfordmanjack!
The design area of the big three was a candy land for a talented artist.Today,not so much.(JMHO)
The good old days when design was done on a bench with a piece of paper and you had to be an artist, followed by clay models. Today its all computer generated and a designer doesn't even have to know how to draw a straight line...
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2015-01-30 07:44
The good old days when design was done on a bench with a piece of paper and you had to be an artist, followed by clay models. Today its all computer generated and a designer doesn't even have to know how to draw a straight line...
Jim,you are so right.Back then these people were CRAFTSMEN.
I started my career using all the old traditional materials.But today,a lot of young folks do not have the basic skill set and use a digital format as a crutch.
Yes,I use the computer for nearly 99% of commercial work today,but I was trained classically.
There was a ton of talent back in those shops then and all the skill and talent are long gone today.
That's a pretty broad statement and not meant as a blanket.Just an observation in my field today.
I started out sitting at a drafting table, paper, pencils, T square etc, and loved making blue prints. I'll bet not many do that anymore. That was a short lived, I decided building the parts would be more fun then drawing them but that fun ended when NC machines started arriving on the scene and I moved on once again. Todays technologies are amazing but not all of them are for me, I still prefer things that are hands on...
Remember, because you used to scale to hand drawn lines, it was best to roll your drafting pencil to get an even thickness line -even with 5H leads? An older fellow draftsman bet me that he could scale to .005 with a good (Starrett) scale when I first started drafting, he could do it (!) and showed me how after taking my money!
It was a BIG deal when we got drafting machines instead of the rolling bar or T-squares!
We used sliderules and common sense, there truly was a time when design was a source of pride....pocket protectors, not so much! LSU didn't have a computer when I started school, the building to house the computer was under construction then. I had elementary Fortran programming by the time I graduated. My grandfather witnessed the invention of the automobile, the airplane, radio and television, and the landing of man on the moon! I can only imagine what the future holds for the next generation...
On another note, I still think there is a fake front end on that (55) 57. :003:
found this again while searching my files. nice early mock ups , 56tbird engine logos on, 56 hubcaps, the 4dr doesn't even have a dash and you can look through the 2dr, where the bellhousing should be. pretty tall stance in front.
Factory Experimental tags???!!! Awesome.
Are they sitting on a turntable? The brick wall in the background is really impressive, have to wonder if any of that is still there.
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That's Detroit.In the 50's it was at its top game,NowFor the most part, It looks like a war zone.Really,really sad when I think of that.
That City has (had) some of the most beautiful architecture and art at one time.
great photos!
and don't forget the unbelievable music scene of the 60s. they called it MOtorTOWN !
Even though I heard it lots of times, I never knew what Mo Town was supposed to mean. Thanks.
Quote from: Zapato on 2015-02-05 10:00
Are they sitting on a turntable? The brick wall in the background is really impressive, have to wonder if any of that is still there.
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The Ford fatherland! Dearborn Development Center commonly called Ford Proving Ground - Dearborn. The brick wall is the security wall. Still there last time I drove by. Every Ford guys bucket list...Dream Cruise Weekend including Ford World HQ, Henry Ford Museum, Dearborn(only place is the US to drive on the left), Fairlane, Rotunda Dr., Rouge Plant Tour, Woodward Ave, NASCAR at MIS and more in one weekend!!!!!
Detroit is the MOTOR CITY...bobonics equals MOTOWN.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ford+Dearborn+Development+Center/@42.303599,-83.2125736,205m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x5dfa64ad2582f816
Man, how cool is that!