Just sharing a picture of the Michigan corn, nice day for getting gas 5.18 a gallon, 1957 that could have put 17 gallons in the tank. Anyways a beautiful day to burn some fuel and cruise the neighbor hood.IMG_1065.jpg
Were at $2.50 a liter for Chevron 94 so roughly $9.00 a gallon. Not sure, I've never checked the mileage on my 57 but pretty sure I'm close to single digit miles per gallon city and 13 or so highway. When I take it for drive I better enjoy every second of it for what it's costing me.
Yours has a 460 in it doesn't it?
My 57 custom 300, has a 460, C6, 370 rear end so she goes through the fuel, especially on these flat straight country roads. When it comes to driving these types of cars, I look at it as Smiles per Mile !! Yes that exhaust sound is music to the ears at the same time. You hate to put her back in the garage..
I guess I need to stop bitchin' about our 4.59 a gallon and my 18-low 20's mpg. I've been diving my '57 a lot less this year, took my dd Outback on a 760 mile road trip to New Mexico Friday and Saturday. It gets 32 mpg., but those $60. fillups still hurt. My next planned '57 Roadtrip is in 3 weeks to Santa Fe on July 4. I just got in a fuel injector rebuild kit for it. I'm hoping the injector rebuilds and new plugs will get back the few mpg I've lost in the past year or so. If that doesn't do it, a set of new coils (cop) is next. This time I'll spring for the Motorcraft brand.
I have the option to drive 2 miles and cross into the USA and save $40.00 per tank. My 410 gets 16 mpg since I added the 5-speed.
When it comes to the price I just remind myself my eye drops are $6,500.00 per gallon.
Terry
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Glenmichael
How many gallons of gas does the stock 57 custom tank hold?
Your car looks great.
Jay
I long ago adopted the feeling and opinion that if gas prices are a major concern for driving a "Hot Rod, Vintage, Rest-o-mod or Muscle car" for fun you're in the wrong hobby. You should consider chasing little white balls around the pasture.
Having said that, I am so happy that the commute to work is over for me! I just can;t wrap my mind around what some folks are doing to stay afloat. My youngest brother is an independent long haul trucker and is struggling with fuel cost.
I just can't wrap my head around what's happening with gas prices with the oil companies knowing the current administration is pushing for conversion to electric cars. Seems like the high prices are supporting their opposition's push.
Sky high gas prices is not a very good strategy to get re-elected. I don't know how much control a government has over the price of crude oil but I would think not much nowadays especially with the conflict in the Ukraine disrupting supply from Russia.
Louisiana is a producer of oil and gas (obviously) and the government policies regarding exploration, production, and pipeline development are VERY counter productive and they effect our local economy. They were changed before the Russian invasion and I suspect that was a consideration in making the decision to go to war when they did. I do believe the administration policies were changed to have the result of a rise in prices to encourage the switch to electric cars. IMHO.
I have to agree with Lynn. I believe that, for the most part, the high prices at the pump are designed to push us toward "green" vehicles which the power grid cannot currently support. I look at gas the same way I look at gambling. Put money on the table or gas into the tank, consider it gone. How long before you put more money down or mor gas in depends upon how long you want to sit there or how long you want to drive.
Its a similar situation in Texas and Oklahoma. I heard an environmentalist explain their rationale regarding pipelines and oil production a few years ago. He said as long as gasoline, diesel, coal and natural gas were relatively cheap that people will never move toward "alternate" fuels, and so their strategy was to have politicians make policies that would make fuel prices so high that consumers would be forced to seek alternate fuels for travel and home. The problem is that they don't realize (or don't care) that petroleum products aren't just used for cars and trucks. Petroleum is used in making plastics, fertilizer, composites, and many other things that are essential to modern life. Many people in rural areas use propane to heat. My son works for a diesel, and propane distributor and he said that the average cost to fill a large tractor went up $300 last week. That fuel is used up in one day of field work. One of their long haul trucker customers fuel cost is up $1000 per week. Those costs get passed on through increase in product costs to us the consumer. A couple years ago we were a net exporter of oil which drove the prices down significantly to the point that the oil and gas industry had significant lay offs, including me, but our gas was just over $2 a gallon. Its a globally traded commodity, so with the U.S. no longer producing high volumes OPEC, Iran, and Russia can dictate the prices and the environmentalists meet their objective.
I agree with everything said. For what it's worth I started this conversation fully aware we were going to be walking on the edge of political discussion, but this deeply affects our hobby and pastimes, so I thought it needed to be done. I had been biting my young for a while. All of you guys have done a great job discussing the situation without getting political/pointing fingers. Kudos!
First, that is a great pic of the black 57 sitting next to the cornfield. great colors of the green and blue, contrasting the flat black custom !
Thank you Rich, for allowing this conversation. your reasoning is spot on.
The dramatic increase on gas price is one of the major reasons that I do not take my 57CS for extended drives anymore. Originally , when purchasing my 57, I intended it to be a daily driver, at least for shopping needs or the occasional longer trip, visiting my friends in Germany or Croatia and Italy.
All of this has come to a sudden end, seeing that a 500 mile round trip to Southern Germany would cost me close to $500 in gas and road fees. that is $1 a mile. go figure. no fun to be had anymore.
Rich, while you are still struggling with $4.59 /gln, I want you to know that we are over $10/ gln right now ( was $15 at the beginning of the crisis in March). Germany withdrew their environmental taxes on gas last week for now, so that means , actually fuel in Austria is the highest ever recorded and higher than in Germany, which is a total break on the traditional price comparison. Most all of our neighboring countries have frozen the gas price to about $7. not Austria.
I am not going to drop any names or things, but I do believe there is some reasoning behind that price torture.
Some people, like me are mostly only affected with their hobby and leasure time doings, but I feel really sorry for those who make a living from trucking, agricultural work, or having to commute to work aso.
For me, I wish I had a 3.0 rearend AND an overdrive AT and a SBF in my 57CS.
I might be walking the edge here. This administration ran on "The Green New Deal" and won. We Americans as a whole are a funny bunch of folks! Get a bunch of feel good words put on paper and go about our routines. That is with respect just about everything that affects our daily lives. After it is on paper and every one is full of warm fuzzies the unexpected and unintended consequences of what they just signed on to become reality and the crying begins. I know, I am :deadhorse:
Hello Everyone, I've heard a picture is worth a thousand words, you never know where a photo will take you. I believe the gas tank in the cars are 19 and wagons carry 20 gallons, I have never carried more than 10, just to keep it fresh.
Quote from: Ford Blue blood on 2022-06-14 07:33I might be walking the edge here. This administration ran on "The Green New Deal" and won. We Americans as a whole are a funny bunch of folks! Get a bunch of feel good words put on paper and go about our routines. That is with respect just about everything that affects our daily lives. After it is on paper and every one is full of warm fuzzies the unexpected and unintended consequences of what they just signed on to become reality and the crying begins. I know, I am :deadhorse:
A prime example is folks that buy a new car and trade in one that they already owe more than book value. The dealer says no problem, we'll just add it to the loan, and that will increase the interest rate a bit. They sign the contract and later realize that they are eventually paying three times the value of the car.
Hello Everyone, talked to an old friend today, gas prices came up and he said remember 1973 we where stationed in San Diego and they were selling gas to even number plates one day and odd number plates the next. Gas Shortage, remember? Then my fun car 65 mustang 289, 10 to 1, two carter 500, my every day driver 1970 challenger 383, to be young and have no worry's .. Different story today , I am taken the old hot rod out for Fathers Day, hope to post a photo ..
Yup, the good ol days. My daily was a 70 Boss 302, premium was $.32 on base in 70. Decided to go racing, F100 became the daily, 12 MPG on a good day. I do get pains remembering the 55 MPH speed limits! Made trips home from Norfolk, VA a forever journey!
Here in Nova Scotia Canada, I topped up the tank on my 59 2 door sedan, with Shell 91 premium,(the highest octane that I have found here, in BC we still had Chevron 94). I had 1/2 tank, and it still took $70.00 Canadian to fill it, at $2.25 per liter. (3.78 liters to an American gallon). In September, I plan to tow my 59 to the FE Race in Pennsylvania, with the V10, my F350 Dually gets around 8- 8 1/2 mpg towing the 24 foot enclosed trailer. Here, to fill my truck would be about $260. Canadian. Sure hoping the gas prices take a tumble between now and September!
OK...long story time. Glenmichael mentioned the California gas shortage. Not sure if he had the year wrong or if they had two shortages, but the one I remember was 78-79ish. I had just been promoted to VP of a large machine shop in Fountain Valley. I was driving a '73 Fiat Spyder, and my boss told me one day a VP needed to be driving something nicer, so to look for something, and he'd pay for it! Well, lots of Lincoln and Cadilac dealers were going out of business because who wanted an 8mpg car during a gas shortage. (I did, lol, I only lived one mile from the shop). I saw an ad in the paper for a liquidator in Anaheim who had New Lincolns and Cadillacs clearing out at 1/2 sticker price......had to go look, lol. I saw a gorgeous 79 Mark V Cartier edition...dark blue vinyl roof/dark blue body color/dark blue interior. My boss didn't want any liabilities on his financial record as he was getting ready to get financing on some big bucks n/c machinery, so he gave me $ for the down payment and covered all my monthly expenses on it.
When I went to the bank to get financing, the gorgeous redhead B of A bank manager, who I had already dealt with previously, was shocked at the 1/2 sticker price. She called the place to verify, and when he did, she asked if he had any Mark V's left. he had 6. She told him to hold them all, she'd be in that afternoon with a deposit check for all. When she hung up, she told me she loved those cars, and thanked me for telling her about them. Apparently the bank was looking for some cars for it's upper staff. Sticker on the car was around 29K, a lot of money (for me) in '80"
Anyway, the Mark got about 7-8 MPG. I could live with it since I was so close. What I couldn't do was spend 2 hours sitting in a gas station line to get gas, so every 10 days or so, I'd send my secretary out to the gas station with it.
Rich, It was a while ago, I remember late 1973 in southern California we or I first heard the word- maybe letters OPEC... and yes California had gas station problems into the late 1970's.. In 1975 I started working in the HUSH House which was a building to test the f-4 engines, so free use of aviation fuel for the Mustang. Loved running it at Carlsbad Dragway north of Miramar Air Base. And I do miss those DAYS... Sorry no Fathers Day Pictures to busy doing burn outs in my brother-in-laws 55 ford truck, the Kids could not stop cheering ..... And the BBQ was good too.