Ok, I looked and either I missed it, wrong words or it is not here. But I have the seals and new glass to put in my larger non opening quarter window of my station wagon. The shop manual is this: take out gasket and glass. Then install gasket and glass. Is it that simple? I assume I need to put the gasket on the glass, (let it sit in the sun while do this). Then, I do the rope trick to get the lip of the rubber over the pinch weld? Sound about right?

Mike

absolutely so !

Before that, take a file or grinder and knock down any sharp edges or welding flash that may have occurred from factory spot welding. On my Del Rio it had lots of that next to the og spot welds and also overlapping panels. Sharp spots may tear or cut into your new rubber seals.

yes that simple, best to have someone helping, if you use the string tool you insert the string and just align it as someone pulls the string from the inside.
having some help is key, I think the hardest part is having to remove the trim and the lift gate bolt to clear the space.
I did one side, just need to do the other side on mine.
FYI I use red rubber grease in edge, but this can be put in dry.

def clean the edge. as mentioned above.

Abe, red rubber grease? Never heard of it, is it something I can order? And is it a lube for the rubber over the glass? Thanks for the tip on cleaning up the welds and flashing. Oh, do I need window tape for this ?

Mike

I have installed lots of VW Bug glass, and Early Bronco glass over the years.

One thing that I have found that really works well in installing glass with lip seals is Honda Motorcycle spray polish.  This product can be purchased in any motorcycle dealership. 

Here's why.  You want a lubricant that will stay liquid while your working the glass and seal into place.  Normal dish soap in a spray bottle dries out at the worse possible time just as your trying to get the last section to slip in.  The motorcycle polish will not hurt any painted, or plastic surface.  In the motorcycle industry it's used to clean dried bugs from plastic windshields and helmet visors without any damage.  One can will last you for years in a home shop.  Lube the string with the polish before you insert into the seal.

Make certain to remember to install any stainless insert trim into the seal before the seal is installed onto the glass.  The order of assembly is important.

Great tip, John, thx!
Like Gene says, EVERYDAY'S A SCHOOL DAY !
There is always something new to learn !

John, very good tip.Would it be possible for you post a photo of the Honda Polish?
Thanks

Quote from: KYBlueOval on 2022-07-08 06:23John, very good tip.Would it be possible for you post a photo of the Honda Polish?
Thanks

Sorry, no photos, I'm a technically challenged "old guy".

If you go online you will easily find this product.  The pricing is all over the board.  The product comes in different sizes, and is packaged in different quantities.  IMO, one 12 oz. can lasts a very long time.  The shipping cost could easily exceed the cost of one can, maybe try to purchase it locally.

Here's a very large high volume motorcycle mailorder company for your reference.

Chaparral Motorsprts, San Bernardino, CA
Pro Honda Spray Cleaner and Polish
(Normal) 12 oz spray size is $5.75 per can
Five Star Rating Product
I think (?) the part number is 0873-SCP00

This product has many different uses besides cleaning your motorcycle.  It should be on your shop shelf next to your Marvel Mystery Oil, and your Gibb's Spray Oil.  Fortunately, none of these products smell as bad as PB Blaster.

John

Red rubber grease is mostly used in UK, I found a few references to it in the HAMB for installing windshields, its also a grease that doesnt dry up and its made for rubber.  To preserve the squish.
I found the best deal to get t from this guy, I think he imports the barrel and makes smaller buckets of it.

You get more vs the price for the tiny bottle on Amazon.

https://kirks-auto.com/

The original is Castrol Red Rubber Grease.

The Lucas stuff is not the same.

 Forgot to mention to get some of those window windshield suction handles.  It helps.

OK. got the driver side out/in without any problems. The passenger is up next, and I had to scrub stains from the gasket off-not totally gone but about 90%. It is amazing how clear glass is when it is cleaned I can even see the faint decal of 'fomoco'. It also seems a tad thicker than the replacement glass.

Mike